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nickel
06-08-2005, 03:10 PM
Move over Rambo, you're cramping new man's style
Wed Jun 8,10:29 AM ET

PARIS (AFP) - Macho man is an endangered species, with today's male more likely to opt for a pink flowered shirt and swingers' clubs than the traditional role as family super-hero, fashion industry insiders say.

A study along these lines led by French marketing and style consultants Nelly Rodi was unveiled to Fashion Group International during a seminar Tuesday on future strategy for the fashion industry in Europe.

"The masculine ideal is being completely modified. All the traditional male values of authority, infallibility, virility and strength are being completely overturned," said Pierre Francois Le Louet, the agency's managing director.

Instead today's males are turning more towards "creativity, sensitivity and multiplicity," as seen already in recent seasons on the catwalks of Paris and Milan.

Arnold Schwarznegger and Sylvester Stallone are being replaced by the 21st-century man who "no longer wants to be the family super-hero", but instead has the guts to be himself, to test his own limits.

"We are watching the birth of a hybrid man. ... Why not put on a pink-flowered shirt and try out a partner-swapping club?" asked Le Louet, stressing that the study had focused on men aged between 20 and 35.

Sociologists and other experts spent three months analyzing some 150 magazines and books and 146 Internet sites, as well as interviewing a dozen experts from Europe, the United States and China.

The traditional man still exists in China, Le Louet said, and "is not ready to go". But in Europe and the United States, a new species is emerging, apparently unafraid of anything.

"He is looking for a more radical affirmation of who he is, and wants to test out all the barbarity of modern life" including in the sexual domain, said Le Louet, adding that Reebok with its "I am what I am" campaign had perfectly tapped into this current trend.

The emergence of this new male beast who wants to look and feel good, and who will also have an impact on the role of women, presages a new potentially lucrative market for the European fashion industry.

"All those labels which have adapted to this freedom of expression are on the up, all those which are too rigid will suffer in the future," Le Louet said, pointing to the growing success of sports and casual wear manufacturers.

Europe's economic downturn and stiff competition from China have left the industry -- which accounts for 7.0 percent of employment across the European Union or some 2.7 million jobs with an annual turnover of 230 billion euros -- in the doldrums.

The EU has already stepped in with new initiatives and with an aid package to support small and medium enterprises, particularly in the field of technical textiles.

But the search for new markets is also driving research to profile the new European consumer -- the theme of the debate held by Fashion Group, which unites some 6,000 fashion industry professionals.

The answer is not simple, as culture and changing demographics make it hard to pin down the typical European, especially with the growing population of elderly.

But even though society is changing, Jean-Pierre Fourcat, a director with consultants Sociovision specialising in discerning social trends, believes there are some common threads.

"There is an increasing desire for people to be in charge of their own lives, and an intolerance for any lack of autonomy," he told the debate.

"We are also moving into a different situation. We no longer need what we are used to, rather we need what is new. But a motorway without any signs is total panic. So we need some beacons ... and we need a little bit of fun."

Today's consumer wants to feel pampered, but also to be able to take time out, feel good and feel alive.

"We have to help people to create their own look. And we absolutely must help people to dream, and if we help people to dream perhaps the world will be a little bit better," he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050608/lf_afp/afplifestylefashion_050608142956

InfiniteNothing
06-08-2005, 03:11 PM
Who else has the stupid song ringing in their heads?

zenbooty
06-08-2005, 03:14 PM
Well, good thing I'm still strong, virile and infallible.

BrewMaster
06-08-2005, 03:14 PM
Who else has the stupid song ringing in their heads?
me. as soon as i read the title of this thread it started. dang you nickel. :pfft:

DarkFury
06-08-2005, 03:16 PM
Ummm... I don't think so. Must be a "big city" thing.... like "velvet pants" and "body wash" :shifty:

nickel
06-08-2005, 03:28 PM
me. as soon as i read the title of this thread it started. dang you nickel. :pfft:
ok, sorry... this better?

It's Raining Men! Hallelujah! - It's Raining Men! Amen!
I'm gonna go out to run and let myself get
Absolutely soaking wet!
It's Raining Men! Hallelujah!
It's Raining Men! Every Specimen!
Tall, blonde, dark and lean
Rough and tough and strong and mean

:guitar: :drums: :sing:

raimin
06-08-2005, 03:32 PM
http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/machoman.jpg


hey he was great as bonesaw

ski
06-08-2005, 03:40 PM
Body wash rocks. It's an innovation. Like that pump soap you have next to your sinks to wash your hands. Much easier than a bar of soap... the only places I see bars of soap anymore are hotels, but they only use bars because they are cheap to mass produce!

BrewMaster
06-08-2005, 03:44 PM
ok, sorry... this better?

It's Raining Men! Hallelujah! - It's Raining Men! Amen!
I'm gonna go out to run and let myself get
Absolutely soaking wet!
It's Raining Men! Hallelujah!
It's Raining Men! Every Specimen!
Tall, blonde, dark and lean
Rough and tough and strong and mean

:guitar: :drums: :sing:
consider this your virtual beating.

:bonk:

:angry:

BigJon
06-08-2005, 04:36 PM
Oh...I was like, "Randy Savage"?

MikeD
06-08-2005, 05:19 PM
Oh...I was like, "Randy Savage"?

That's the first thing I thought of too...

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/machoman.jpg

Grafalgar
06-08-2005, 05:22 PM
"We are watching the birth of a hybrid man. ... Why not put on a pink-flowered shirt and try out a partner-swapping club?"

Uh. What? I'm all for exploring sensitivity, creativity, yadda yadda. But partner-swapping? I don't understand how they can consider that in the same light as being a sensitive, creative, emotionally stronger man. They almost make it sound like a positive, acceptable thing for "modern men"' to do.

Crazy people :P

/me shaves face with stabby.

Showtime
06-08-2005, 06:51 PM
Wth does he know, he is reporting from France.

Haha!

:wavey2:

-j

zippyjuan
06-08-2005, 08:07 PM
And a fashion article- the fashion industry is not exactly full of hetero, macho males.

cheapie
06-08-2005, 08:26 PM
his research consisted of reviewing websites?


and what's unmanly about body wash? and a scrub thingy?

DarkFury
06-08-2005, 08:41 PM
Need some excitement.... OOOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAHH!!!!

http://www.webontario.com/fighting/machoman/randy_savage.jpg

nickel
06-09-2005, 05:15 AM
Need some excitement.... OOOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAHH!!!!

http://www.webontario.com/fighting/machoman/randy_savage.jpg
forget him...post up your macho pic DF :D

Burzhui
06-09-2005, 06:38 AM
Ummm... I don't think so. Must be a "big city" thing.... like "velvet pants" and "body wash" :shifty:


Velour!!! man it's velour!!!!

Just because i am a stylish handsome devil that likes to look and smell good doesn't mean that i'm not a manly man :)

I go to the gym, and not to do yoga, although i see nothing wrong with it. I pump that iron, i roar on that last rep. I like camping and smelling like fire, fishing, getting my hands dirty.

I am an electrician, a plumber, a painter, i can work on my own car, i can fix compuers and other electronics, i've gotten skunks out of houses, i'm not afraid of mice, roaches or other lil critters.
I can start beef in a club, i am always ready to kick ass for my woman. I do expect her to recognize that i am an authority.
But at the same time i do like to get a manicure/pedicure, i do enjoy shopping to great degrees, i do like attention.. etc.

So i am a man that adapts to any anvironment :wavey2:

Mommypooh
06-09-2005, 06:43 AM
And a fashion article- the fashion industry is not exactly full of hetero, macho males.

:stupid:

Sorry most of the men in the fashion industry are far from Straight. So why are we listening to them of all people.

nickel
06-09-2005, 06:49 AM
Velour!!! man it's velour!!!!

Just because i am a stylish handsome devil that likes to look and smell good doesn't mean that i'm not a manly man :)

I go to the gym, and not to do yoga, although i see nothing wrong with it. I pump that iron, i roar on that last rep. I like camping and smelling like fire, fishing, getting my hands dirty.

I am an electrician, a plumber, a painter, i can work on my own car, i can fix compuers and other electronics, i've gotten skunks out of houses, i'm not afraid of mice, roaches or other lil critters.
I can start beef in a club, i am always ready to kick ass for my woman. I do expect her to recognize that i am an authority.
But at the same time i do like to get a manicure/pedicure, i do enjoy shopping to great degrees, i do like attention.. etc.

So i am a man that adapts to any anvironment :wavey2:
but which one are you... really?

http://www.ksilebo.com/realamerican/

Burzhui
06-09-2005, 07:03 AM
but which one are you... really?

http://www.ksilebo.com/realamerican/


all of them. I am the real man of genius.

btw my elour pants pic looks much like this

http://www.webontario.com/fighting/machoman/randy_savage.jpg

Except in a tank top and much less tanned :)

bachviet
06-09-2005, 08:27 AM
No way I'm caught in a pink shirt. :2far:

nickel
06-09-2005, 08:35 AM
No way I'm caught in a pink shirt. :2far:
i am seeing more and more pink shirts on guys lately, and *gulp*

popped collars :gle:

Thesifer
06-09-2005, 08:44 AM
Metrosexuals already owned france in the first place.. so this is old :) I think they have always been fairy boys in france

TofuNinja
06-09-2005, 09:08 AM
That's the first thing I thought of too...

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/photos/machoman.jpg

Me THree
http://wrestle.ru/photo/randysavage/images/07.jpg
Oooooh YEAH!!!

Jihforce
06-09-2005, 09:14 AM
all of them. I am the real man of genius.


Alright Mr. Silent Killer Gas Passer :D

zenbooty
06-09-2005, 09:42 AM
Metrosexuals already owned france in the first place.. so this is old :) I think they have always been fairy boys in france
Have you ever even been to France? There's a whole country full of people outside of Paris, you know.

Don't answer that. The way people talk, I imagine they don't know. :rolleyes:

Burzhui
06-09-2005, 01:16 PM
i am seeing more and more pink shirts on guys lately, and *gulp*

popped collars :gle:


he he i have 3 :)


Alright Mr. Silent Killer Gas Passer :D


Ninja of the nasty :)

riskykougra
06-09-2005, 07:01 PM
Well one thing you can say about body wash is that it comes from a pump bottle. Cause lets face it, the last thing the person in the shower ahead of you washed was most likely the genitalia region....and whats the first thing you wash...your face.