Backing up DVDs

[ufcrusher]

I finally installed my DVD burner into my system and it only came with Nero OEM suite 2. I went to back up a DVD that I own and I received a message regarding copyright protection and it would not allow me to make my backup.

What I am trying to figure out is there a way around this problem in this software or would I be better off buying another software? If so, which one.

Thanks.

NOTE: THIS IS TO MAKE A LEGAL COPY FOLLOWING COPYRIGHT LAW

[PrObLy]

Easiest (and FREE) solution:

www.dvdshrink.org DVD Shrink is a badass program that will do all that you are asking for. Best of all, it's freeware.

Every now and then DVDShrink will come across a DVD that it can't backup directly, so you should use this program, DVD Decrypter (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/DVD_Decrypter.htm) to rip the DVD to your hard drive, then proceed to compress and back it up with DVD Srhink.

Good luck!

[DarkFury]

2nd vote for DVD Shrink!!! :thumb:

And the price is right too! ;)

[verve247]

3rd vote for dvdshrink

[happyjack]

what about dvd copy express from 321 studios?

[SnowSurfer]

dvd copy express puts a message on the beginning of the dvd that says it is a backup and it will not allow you to make backups of your backups (if you ever wanted to do such a thing)

i put in another vote for dvd decrypter and dvd shrink. But i also use slysoft any dvd (im sure you can find it on their site or something :))

here is the order in which i do it
1. Start any dvd
2. Open dvd decrypter, rip the movie in file mode (ive ripped in iso mode a few times but sometimes the dvds don't work)
3. Run the dvd through dvd shrink and choose "create iso and burn with dvd decrypter" (sometimes nero will not burn the dvd right and the chapters will be all out of order)

hope this helps

and remember only use this for legal purposes because i cant be held liable if you do something illegal

oh depending on the dvd player you have it may not play the backups, dvd-r's seem to have more success than dvd+r's so borrow one of each from a friend or your workplace before you go and buy 200 of one kind (i bought 75 dvd+r's and guess what? they dont work on my main dvd player :( oh well i have a lot of dvd's to use to backup files now)

[bbrian]

Another vote for DVD Shrink..
For more advanced editing of DVD's and removing features to make it fit on a DVD-R (or +r), I use PGCEdit.. it is nice because you can completely remove a feature without the annoying 'this was removed' screen.. it just goes straight back to the menu you were on. It also frees more space. The downside is it is considerably harder to use:
http://home.tiscali.be/debie.roland/pgcedit/index.orig.html
You can pretty much edit any aspect of a DVD... such as changing buttons commands, removing previews, removing studio ads, etc.. You can also 'trace' the movie which lets you step through the code in the DVD that controls the menus and videos that are shown. Pretty cool just to see what all is involved in a DVD menu.

I rip the entire disk untouched using DVD Shrink, then use PGCEdit to remove the stuff I don't want, then I burn it using DVD Shrink (and compress if needed). Very nice for kids disks that have tons of previews and junk that aren't considered extras (meaning DVD Shrink and others won't remove).

I backup all my disks now and watch the backed up versions just to get into the movie faster.

[bachviet]

DVD Shrink rules. :thumbup:

[CynJon]

dvd copy express puts a message on the beginning of the dvd that says it is a backup and it will not allow you to make backups of your backups (if you ever wanted to do such a thing)


That's true, but there is an app out there called 321Gone that removes that annoying message from your backups...

[eSDee]

On a Mac I use Fast DVD Copy in case anyone is interested.

[ray]

DVD Shrink.

[zippyjuan]

321 Studios is out of business anyways and XCopy requires online activation.

[SnowSurfer]

im sure some savy person has found a way to thwart the online activation...

[ramazank2]

DVD shrink is great

[Jeffbx]

What's a good program to compress a DVD to fit onto a CD-ROM (VCD, Divx, whatever)? I want to let the kids watch their Pixar movies on their PC, but it doesn't have a DVD drive.

[DarkFury]

What's a good program to compress a DVD to fit onto a CD-ROM (VCD, Divx, whatever)? I want to let the kids watch their Pixar movies on their PC, but it doesn't have a DVD drive.
Honestly, with DVD player prices down into the $25 - $60 area... just go and buy the kids a DVD player and toss out the old CD player. :D

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=172434


Now are you saying that YOU don't have a DVD burner? Well here is your solution :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152039

[Jeffbx]

Now are you saying that YOU don't have a DVD burner? Well here is your solution :D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152039


:blush:

Can you believe it? Laptops & desktops strewn all over my house, and not one of them has a DVD burner yet. Of course, now that you've called me out on it, I guess I'll have to order that one up!

[DarkFury]

Hello Neo... welcome to the REAL world. :cool:

[catch22]

use anydvd , then it will let you use nero

[SnowSurfer]

I tried PGCedit, large learning curve but once you get the hang of it, its easy to remove the trailers and ****

[attgig]

:blush:

Can you believe it? Laptops & desktops strewn all over my house, and not one of them has a DVD burner yet. Of course, now that you've called me out on it, I guess I'll have to order that one up!


hehehe, same here. so i got this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827101645

free ship, so it's 41 shipped.


but yeah, just installed it a few hours ago, and burned a dvd with
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=96609&WT.mc_n=57&WT.mc_t=U&cm_ven=AFFILIATE%20MARKETING&cm_cat=BEFREE&cm_pla=DATAFEED->PRODUCTS&cm_ite=1%20PRODUCT

=)

under 50 bucks, and i got my first dvd, and 49 more to come =)

[Merlin]

Just got my first burner about two or three months ago. I wanted a DL burner and didn't want to spend over $50 for it. Now if I could only find some DL media for under $50. :throw:

[zero2dash]

Just got my first burner about two or three months ago. I wanted a DL burner and didn't want to spend over $50 for it. Now if I could only find some DL media for under $50. :throw:

I thought about waiting and buying a DL drive but quickly realized how expensive the media is. Then you take into consideration how much it's already easy enough to duplicate dvds onto single layer discs, and the extra costs involved in buying/using a DL drive become an even bigger obstacle.

[Merlin]

One day the price of the media will come down. It always does. But if you wait until that happens you'll be able to buy a much better drive for the same money. I bought a DL drive and have not used the DL function yet and probably won't for a year or so given media prices. Oh well it was under $50 so I didn't waste too much.

[bachviet]

One day the price of the media will come down. It always does. But if you wait until that happens you'll be able to buy a much better drive for the same money. I bought a DL drive and have not used the DL function yet and probably won't for a year or so given media prices. Oh well it was under $50 so I didn't waste too much.
Yeap with most of not all 16x DVD burners have DL burning.

[mofobe]

read and followed the advice on this thread -
- ran dvd decrypter
- ran dvd shrink (which brought the size down to fit on dvd5)


are the last two steps:

1. burn into an ISO file
2. find a burn software to actually burn to disc (i.e. dvd shrink can't do that?)

[DarkFury]

read and followed the advice on this thread -
- ran dvd decrypter
- ran dvd shrink (which brought the size down to fit on dvd5)


are the last two steps:

1. burn into an ISO file
2. find a burn software to actually burn to disc (i.e. dvd shrink can't do that?)

DVDShrink will create the ISO which your "burn software" can interpret to make the actual disk... or it can launch your burn program (such as Nero) to finish the disk.

But no.. DVDShrink doesn't do the actual burn. Pretty much, it does everything else to prepare for the burn... but it doesn't do that step. Maybe it's creator didn't want to take the chance to getting sued by the RIAA for having a complete software to do DVD duplication (like how DVDXCopy got sued, prior to it removing the burn feature from it's software package...)

[zippyjuan]

Actually it was the ripper function that XCopy had to disable. The charge was that it was getting around the copy protection (which it was but not in a way directly laid out in the law at the time they argued). I loved how simple it was- open X-Copy. Insert DVD. Click read disc. Wait. Remove DVD. Insert blank DVD. Click Copy. Wait. Remove DVD backup. Play.

[MikeD]

But no.. DVDShrink doesn't do the actual burn. Pretty much, it does everything else to prepare for the burn... but it doesn't do that step.

Nah, you can burn with DVD Shrink.

Use DVD Decrypter to create the .iso. Open DVD shrink, open the .iso, burn to disc.

There are a number of ways to do what you're trying to accomplish, but when using the apps you have this is the best way to go.

Here's a pretty good resource (http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/) you may want to use.

Good luck! :)

[DarkFury]

Nah, you can burn with DVD Shrink.

Use DVD Decrypter to create the .iso. Open DVD shrink, open the .iso, burn to disc.

There are a number of ways to do what you're trying to accomplish, but when using the apps you have this is the best way to go.

Here's a pretty good resource (http://www.mrbass.org/dvdshrink/) you may want to use.

Good luck! :)
But isn't DVD Decrypter doing the "burn" in the case presented above? DVD Shrink is not doing the actual burning is what I've seen... it is doing the "re-authoring".

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a387/d4rkfury/DVDShrink.jpg

as that screenshot says...

"DVD Shrink has finished backing up your DVD.

All Output files are now ready for burning with appropriate DVD burning software."

[MikeD]

But isn't DVD Decrypter doing the "burn" in the case presented above? DVD Shrink is not doing the actual burning is what I've seen... it is doing the "re-authoring".

Hmmm, may be a difference in terminology. Here's how I use the two:

Insert disc
Open DVD Decrypter
Create .iso file
Close DVD Decrypter
Open DVD Shrink
Open .iso file
Use "Backup" feature to burn disc from .iso image

Like I said, there's definitely more than one way to accomplish what he's doing...

[DarkFury]

Hmmm, may be a difference in terminology. Here's how I use the two:

Insert disc
Open DVD Decrypter
Create .iso file
Close DVD Decrypter
Open DVD Shrink
Open .iso file
Use "Backup" feature to burn disc from .iso image

Like I said, there's definitely more than one way to accomplish what he's doing...
Well.. I don't think this is a difference in terminology.. this is a difference in function. DVD Shrink has a "button" that will activate the burning process of another application. It doesn't actually perform the burn itself... but it does cue it up so that the 2nd application can take over and perform the final task.

With DVD Shrink, you can tell it to send the file over to Nero to do the burn (and it will start the Nero session) or you can tell it to use DVD Decrypter to do the burn and it will start that session likewise. Either way... the actual burn process is not accomplished by DVD Shrink.

That's all I was trying to get across. :D

DVD Decrypter can do the entire process on it's own... however it is a more "advanced" software that has a learning curve a bit steeper than DVD Shrink. To me... DVD Shrink is the "quick and dirty" way to create the file for burning... however if you used DVD Decrypter, you can even do some more advanced stuff like trying to recreate the menu system on a re-authored file. DVD Shrink can't do that.. however DVD Decrypter can if you know what you are doing (although it isn't as clean as doing a full rip of the entire disc with all menus and features intact.)

[MikeD]

Well.. I don't think this is a difference in terminology.. this is a difference in function. DVD Shrink has a "button" that will activate the burning process of another application. It doesn't actually perform the burn itself... but it does cue it up so that the 2nd application can take over and perform the final task.

With DVD Shrink, you can tell it to send the file over to Nero to do the burn (and it will start the Nero session) or you can tell it to use DVD Decrypter to do the burn and it will start that session likewise. Either way... the actual burn process is not accomplished by DVD Shrink.

That's all I was trying to get across. :D

DVD Decrypter can do the entire process on it's own... however it is a more "advanced" software that has a learning curve a bit steeper than DVD Shrink. To me... DVD Shrink is the "quick and dirty" way to create the file for burning... however if you used DVD Decrypter, you can even do some more advanced stuff like trying to recreate the menu system on a re-authored file. DVD Shrink can't do that.. however DVD Decrypter can if you know what you are doing (although it isn't as clean as doing a full rip of the entire disc with all menus and features intact.)

I don't know how to tell you this bro. I burn in DVD Shrink. If anyone wants to roll out to VA for a demo, I'll be glad to oblige.

[DarkFury]

I don't know how to tell you this bro. I burn in DVD Shrink. If anyone wants to roll out to VA for a demo, I'll be glad to oblige.
I'll take your word for it... but as the screenshot above shows, the burn process requires an outside program. You did say that you start all of this with DVD Decrypter (which is a burning program).

BTW... go look at the OFFICIAL DVD Shrink site: www.dvdshrink.org

On that site it says the following:



What is DVD Shrink?

DVD Shrink is software to backup DVD discs. You can use this software in conjunction with DVD burning software of your choice, to make a backup copy of any DVD video disc.

DVD Shrink will also burn your backup DVD, if you have installed the latest version of Nero. You can download a demo version of Nero here. If you already possess alternative burning software and prefer to stick with it, then you can still use DVD Shrink. The output from DVD Shrink can be saved as files on your hard drive, which you can then burn with software of your choice.

DVD Shrink is free software. You should never pay for DVD Shrink.




I'm honestly not trying to argue with you on this... however the facts that I am presenting to you say nothing about DVD Shrink being able to burn DVDs on it's own without any other burning software present. You are using DVD Decrypter in your process you described and from what you are telling me and I suspect that it is the program that is actually doing the burn when you use DVD Shrink... it is just telling it what to actually burn.

But hey.. if you have a version of DVD Shrink that is different than the one commonly being distributed (and discussed on the official site and in the DVD Shrink forums...) then by all means please say so. Cause the version I have (Version 3.2) doesn't burn on its own.

[bachviet]

DVD Shrink requires an external burning software to burn DVD. DVD Shrink is the best but it doesn't decrypt all DVDs.

[ufcrusher]

I always just run decrypter and then shrink going to my burner. Havent run into a problem yet, although I do have one disc which is too large even after shrinking to burn onto a single disc. If I remove my preferred sound version, DTS, I can fit it, but with the DTS only it is still too large. I am still trying to figure out where certain features are on the disc so that I can remove them, such as trailers/warnings/additional scenes. I think if I could get rid of all that stuff, I might be able to fit it. Until then, I guess I am stuck either leaving the original at home or risking damage to it while traveling. I would much rather just travel with all back-ups....makes it much less risky.

Like everyone else, I have a DL burner, but havent bothered to buy DL media yet.

[mofobe]

Thanks to all for your help. Burned the ISO file to disc via decrypter (yup. shrink only links to that program by default if you have it installed).

I gotta say, with me 1.6 P4-M, this encoding thing is slow as hell ...took about an hour to encode dvd. another thing, those 4GB ISO files can really clogg up a harddisk fast....filled up my 40GB harddisk in no time....i've never had to delete files just to clear space on my primary HD before...feel like such a virgin...:)

[MikeD]

Thanks to all for your help. Burned the ISO file to disc via decrypter (yup. shrink only links to that program by default if you have it installed).

It appears that a dose of humble pie is in order. I did not realize that Shrink links back in that manner. I was assuming that since I was working within Shrink during the burning process that it was the app doing the burning. My apologies...

Thanks DF, ZJ, and others for clarifying...

***tucks tail between legs, saunters away***

:eek3:

[RARRONA597]

I agree I use DVD shrink, DVD decrypter, X-copy express, and I copy DVD's 2 and they all work great. Though the other day I tried copying (backing up) Lords of Dog town and a GL comedy DVD and had no luck what so ever using all of the above decrypters. It starts fine like its working but about 1/4 of the way into it the read it freezes. I was reading up on this CPPM protection they're putting on some of the new movies coming out. It mimics a scratch on the disk and in turn whatever decrypter you are using freezes or rejects the disk. Has anyone else heard about this? Does anyone have any suggestions on getting around this?

[pennyFX]

If you ever run into a problem with DVD shrink not being able to get passed the copy protection, get a program called DVD43 .. it sits in your tray and intercepts copy protection at a hardware level before it gets to dvdshrink.

[RARRONA597]

I used dvd43 and it works great. But on this movie dvd decrypter read it in fine on file mode, but when shrink backs it up to the dvd 3/4 of the movie is missing. Even on the preview screen its black. Everything else came out fine menus, deleted scenes, previews, ect. But when you push play from the menu it starts fine with the usual FBI warning then the screen goes black for about 20 sec and the movie starts at the end. And when I used dvd decrypter it read all the files in with no errors.

Oh well I guess I'll keep trying other things!

[brainsmile]

hmm interesting problem. anyone else have this problem? I find that dvdshrink does sometimes screw up because of the copy protection

[GilbertsGrape]

trying to back up teh Simpsons season 4 dvd and not having any luck tried using shrink, dvd decriptor, AnyDVD, DVD for free. no luck any other porgrams i can try