San Diego - 94.1 FM J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread

[DeeTroit]

OK I've been a closet lurker and I have to come out. According to public record, 3 years is a "Lot" for Mr. Passive Aggresive.
I second: LBM
NRIAP (New Reader is a Putz)

I first heard J&J when they were in Detroit and they seem to have come full circle. They sucked there too. They were "OK" for a while for San Diego radio-- before their heads, wallets and various body parts got too fat.

SABLAN, TOMMY E (Age 42)
Available Available SAN DIEGO, CA
CHULA VISTA, CA Possible Relatives:

SABLAN, DANNELLE MARIE (Age 45)
SABLAN, RAY B (Age 56)
SABLAN, ROSA B (Age 81)
SABLAN, FRANK
SABLAN, RAYMOND M (Age 56)
SABLAN, THOMAS EDWARD (Age 43)

[Wabbitsd]

Welcome, Dee...glad you joined in.

In Tommy's Blog, he seemed to mention that two of his brothers had passed away...evidently one of them did some kind of video of himself that was designed to encourage OTHERS not to meddle in drugs...

ick.

And nothing creeps me out more than Tommy trying to pat himself on the back for being such a strict dad. How phony is that?

[DeeTroit]

Eeew. :puke: I just read the last two entries. His proud comments about his 7th grade year "if you know what I mean" have left me seriously nauseated. Eeew, and his comment "Bills are paid and sent out and ex’s got their checks and all is well." So he was married to Dannell for 14 years and is still paying support to some other ex-wife???? (Thanks for the welcome).

[edisekal]

Why is Tommy picking Laura up next week? Is Dave really out of the picture now?

[apossible]

Why is Tommy picking Laura up next week? Is Dave really out of the picture now?

I was wondering the same thing. Also, if she is coming home on the 22nd and starting back to work on the 25th, this really shows her priorities. Talk about having been away from her kids for several months, coming back and only spending a few days with them before returning to work. Great mom, Laura. NOT!!!!

[Wabbitsd]

Dee...thanks for picking up on the ick factor of his whining about paying support...that always bugs me (disclaimer: I am not, nor have ever been married.) Assuming this support is for his kids, since they live with Dannelle, why does he make it out to be some kind of punishment?

My take on Tommy is that he is the epitome of the "Good Time Dad" who doesn't want to pay support, but wants to be put on a throne for buying fun stuff, or stuff that gets him "good press" like buying tons of raffle tix for the kids' sports team stuff...

ed, I dunno...maybe Tommy has "assumed the position" of her AA/NA sponsor...he's been acting like he has been following the program lately, hasn't he?

apossible, now come on, give Laura a break. She probably has really been out of rehab for a week or two, but spent this time with some friends partying...before coming back down to take over her responsibilities as part time nanny, I mean parent.

[Ritchie]

Dee...thanks for picking up on the ick factor of his whining about paying support...that always bugs me (disclaimer: I am not, nor have ever been married.) Assuming this support is for his kids, since they live with Dannelle, why does he make it out to be some kind of punishment?

I believe that most child/spousal support payments is based on the ability to pay. For example, it may cost $1000 a month to support a child but if the spouse can afford to pay $2000 a month then that is what the courts force them to pay.

Based on Tommy's salary at the time of divorce I imagine that his ex is getting a large chunk of change.

One of the several reasons why I don't plan on getting married.

[Wabbitsd]

Ritchie, my point is that it is child support. It's for the kids. I would think Tommy has no issue with how Dannelle takes care of the kids, so I don't think he should begrudge the dough. I take the "Judge Judy" approach, in that I don't consider it the spouse's money, it's the kids' money. The spouse should just be a caretaker of the cash. But that's my view.

[Village Idiot]

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[Ritchie]

Ritchie, my point is that it is child support. It's for the kids. I would think Tommy has no issue with how Dannelle takes care of the kids, so I don't think he should begrudge the dough. I take the "Judge Judy" approach, in that I don't consider it the spouse's money, it's the kids' money. The spouse should just be a caretaker of the cash. But that's my view.

My point was simply that the support payments are based on what he makes, not what it actually takes to raise a child.

Chances are there is a lot more money that Dannelle uses for other things that have nothing to do with the kids. That's just how the law is. The spouse can caretaker the money any way that she pleases.

[Wabbitsd]

Gotcha, Ritchie.:)

Is someone going to start a countdown to when Laura comes back?

Maybe we should have a contest to come up with the most creative excuse for why she was gone. I mean outside of the real reason, of course.

Do we maybe think she joined Scientology? Got a sex change? :)

[listener13]

Do we maybe think she joined Scientology? Got a sex change? :)

I don't think even the Scientologists would want her.....

LBM
TI"DOTY" (Tommy is "Dad of the Year") :puke:

[GoEagles]

Maybe we should have a contest ...




I vote Shopping addiction (although I really believe it was meth)

[JesseeezMom]

Chances are there is a lot more money that Dannelle uses for other things that have nothing to do with the kids. That's just how the law is. The spouse can caretaker the money any way that she pleases.
For putting up with someone like Tommy- she deserves whatever she got and more I'm sure!

[listener13]

From Tommy's blog on Sun:
Laura is actually going to start joining us on Saturday’s and Sunday’s this coming weekend. She’s coming home FRIDAY as I wrote in a previous blog!

Okay, you've been gone for months - over 130,000 seconds of time away from your young children - time you're never going to get back (much like the time we lose listening to their drivel every morning) - what does your first weekend home look like.....spending time with TOMMY? Something seriously is up with that.

And, if Tommy writes one more time that "there's a new sheriff in town" - I'm gonna lose it. He's no sheriff, he's Deputy Barney Fife.

fyi: I only listen to about 10 minutes of their drivel each day - drive time. Thank GOD I live close to work. I used to have my radio on Star during the day at work, now I listen to KPRI - that's how crappy Star is......KPRI wins over STAR! I'd rather listen to ANYONE "unplugged" as opposed to Jeff's menstral cycle, Jer's stupid "I'm SO hetero" crap and Randy's "hell no, I'm not gay" giggle over Jerry's stupid Top 10 crap that he stole from Maxim Magazine.

[YoungAmerican]

From Tommy's blog on Sun:
Laura is actually going to start joining us on Saturday’s and Sunday’s this coming weekend. She’s coming home FRIDAY as I wrote in a previous blog!

Does anyone here actuall expect anything less from Laura. She is still an "IT'S ALL ABOUT ME" person. That doesn't seem to have changed no matter what kind of "help" she got.

[Ritchie]

Does anyone here actuall expect anything less from Laura. She is still an "IT'S ALL ABOUT ME" person. That doesn't seem to have changed no matter what kind of "help" she got.

I think she will be talking all about herself and how tough it was to go through rehab and how much of a better person she is and blah blah blah.

Oh, and I think she'll throw something in there about a gambling addiction. You know, with all the lotto scratchers she gets.

LBM

[YoungAmerican]

What the hell isn't she addicted to? Gambling? shopping? 2 buck chuck? nose candy? I just can't believe that after being away from her 2 small children for so long that she is going to immediately start climbing mountains with Tommy and then go right to work on Monday. You'd think she would want to take at least a little time to spend with her family and start mending the damage she's done at home first. Her diary entry today is down right disgusting. She makes one little mention of Evan needing her mommy but everything else is about her. "I" need her, "I" wonder if I'm good enough, "I" wonder if people remember "ME", me, me, me, I, I, I. Sounds like the same old Laura. One consolation is that I did hear Jeff say this morning that Delana will still be on the show after Laura comes back.

[jjgumba]

Perhaps it's best if Laura gets back to work quickly to establish a routine as soon as possible...Routines are definitely good for kids and the last thing she needs to do is pounce back in the middle of her kids life and create a whirlwind all over again! These poor kids have been through enough. I would say a gentle reentry would be best. For all we know, she may not even be going back to the family home, in which case she better keep herself busy to maintain her sobriety.

I'm sure she has gotten lots of counsel wherever she is on how best to have success. For the sake of her children, I wish her all the success in the world. Just my 2 cents.

[Wabbitsd]

I'm always looking for the good news, and after wading through all the stuff about Laura coming back (ick) the good news I was hoping for was that Delana will still be around after "it" comes back.

"self-aggrandizing narcissist" sure sounds like Laura's middle name.

Maybe Tommy got the housekeeper to come and clean up after him so Laura can move in and be his roommate.

[listener13]

Maybe Tommy got the housekeeper to come and clean up after him so Laura can move in and be his roommate.

Now he has someone to go get his weekly "mani/pedi" with.

[Ritchie]

Has there been any mention of Laura's husband?

[YoungAmerican]

Has there been any mention of Laura's husband?

Not that I've heard. I especially thought it strange when she made no mention of Dave at all on her father's day entry to her diary. Something is diffently going on between them or NOT going on, however you want to look at it.

[YoungAmerican]

Is it just me or is reading that Tommy "had a VERY memorable" summer right before he went into 7th grade making anyone else sick. That just seems so early, especially for back in the 70's. Pretty much everyone I knew back in the day was at least 16 or so and I still think that's pretty early. Guess I must be a prude or something. The double standard thing really makes me sick. Trying so hard to protect your daughter while at the same time teaching your son "to go for it all" :puke: From his blog:
I want Eddie to get all the action a boy can ever dream of. I want him to date all the Hollywood blondes that are his age and that’s all. Guess what Tommy? Some other dad is wishing the same thing for his son, and it's YOUR DAUGHTER VANESSA that could be providing the ACTION. You are a MORON!!!

[DeeTroit]

YoungAmerican, I was nauseated when he first brought it up a few days ago. The guy is a complete moron and is trying to relive his childhood through his son. God only knows what warped views that kid is going to have by the time "Little Tommy" is finished. I wonder which STD Eddie will be taking to the next show and tell at school. EEW. Child protective services help these kids! Yeah Tommy, we know you read this. You can brag all you want about being a great parent but YOU need some SERIOUS therapy. You have a really screwed up outlook that you're passing on to your son. Hopefully your daughter sees you for the SHALLOW, EMPTY, CHAUVINIST, (did I say SHALLOW) creep you are.

[Wabbitsd]

thanks for chiming in on this thing Tommy is saying. I've had an icky feeling about it too...where's he been til now? All of a sudden the new Sherriff's Deputy Dawg here is going to lay a power trip on his daughter?

Is it for her benefit? or for his own? Talk about continuing the objectification of women. Like all his buddies (does he have any outside of prison?) will admire him for being this phony "good dad" all of a sudden. She's who she is because of and despite him.

I don't necessarily think you release the kids at the mall, either, but there is a whole lot missing in that whole scenario...Does he have any clue that she is pretty much past his being able to change her? And the do as I say, don't do as I do...honestly. How many "fathers of strippers" tried this same route?

[Ritchie]

And the do as I say, don't do as I do...honestly. How many "fathers of strippers" tried this same route?

Maybe future stripper Vanessa can give some pointers to future stripper Evan when she gets old enough.

[listener13]

Here's the deal with Tommy - I think he found out that Mr. Hand was his best friend in 7th Grade, and nothing more than that. And I'm sure Mr. Hand is his best friend now, as well. He talks the big talk, but believe me, women don't want to sleep with him because he's HIM - they want to use him (but, honestly, I don't think he got it nearly as much as he'd like us to believe).

So, to recap, 7th Grade for Tommy was all about Rosa's Spiegel catalog and long stays in the bathroom.

[YoungAmerican]

So, to recap, 7th Grade for Tommy was all about Rosa's Spiegel catalog and long stays in the bathroom.

:puke: EWWWW!! :puke:

[Ritchie]

Hey everyone.

Okay, I'm not a parent. I wanted kids, but my wife when I was married didn't and now I don't believe I ever will.

That being said, can any of you parents relate to this whole thing about Tommy being so protective of his daughter. You know the whole "sheriff" thing.

I guess I figured that keeping a girl from the mall isn't going to keep her from meeting boys that want something. I figure that you would instead focus on instilling beliefs into the girl so that she can be exposed to the boys and still make the right decision.

Any comments?

[Wabbitsd]

Ritchie, you hit it on the head, there.

Got a teen daughter, faced the same issues...sure, kids make dumb decisions. There were a couple of times my girl went to the mall for a movie...but generally, it was understood that I would be in the same mall shopping, and I had better not have any reason to think they had left the mall...or skipped the movie without letting me know.

There was always the worry that I (or her dad) just might show up. And sometimes we did. If we had the rule that she called when she left somewhere, and she called when she got somewhere...if she didn't...one of us just might show up or we might call--not necessarily her cell, but the house she was supposed to be, etc.

The Sherrif thing..you don't come into being a disciplinarian at this late stage in the game. The kids live full time with Dannelle, she needs to be laying down the rules. Tommy needs to back her up, but if he is just a weekend dad, or a summertime dad, his "Sherrifdom" will be/is a joke.

I find it interesting that he has found ways to fill Eddie's time with football, other sports, activities, etc., yet Vanessa has time to stroll the malls...there are lots of good sports activities for girls as well...and would help build a strong sense of self and a path for for his daughter...outside of being a little protected piece of glass art scuplture for him to "guard."

[Ritchie]

From Tommy's Blog: Laura comes back TOMORROW. WOW, that sure feels good to say that. LAURA COMES BACK TOMORROW!

She actually gave me a headache today, because I’m picking her up and she keeps changing the time on me……I may just send a limo for her..


I wonder what Dave is up to that he can't pick up his wife.

[srdude]

This thing about Dave. I wonder if Laura will even be going to her own home. And if she is, will Dave be there?

[listener13]

This thing about Dave. I wonder if Laura will even be going to her own home. And if she is, will Dave be there?

I wonder if she isn't going to be living "temporarily" with Tommy because it sounds like he's taking the lead on everything for her - picking her up, she's going on his little "lovefest" walks over the weekend, whatever. I have a feeling that Davecain and Laura are over (if not, they're close to it). They haven't filed for a public divorce (you can check that online).

Again, all of this very sad for those two children. But, maybe Dave will be happier raising two children (as opposed to three, including her).

[Wabbitsd]

And here we are, with no "New Reader" cheerleading on the whole sheebang.

[listener13]

And here we are, with no "New Reader" cheerleading on the whole sheebang.

I know......I miss her!:puke:

LBM (and she's not even back yet).

[Ritchie]

Again, all of this very sad for those two children. But, maybe Dave will be happier raising two children (as opposed to three, including her).

Dave should have custody of them since he's the more stable one. Too bad that the courts usually side with the mother. I feel bad for those kids as well.

LBM

NNRIABOFA (No New Reader Is A Breath Of Fresh Air)

[Smitty]

" just hung up the phone with Laura and said, “see ya in a few hours”…..Then we both started to laugh, because how weird that sounded. For 100 days, we never knew when she was coming back. I was there on Day One for her thinking there was NO LIGHT at the end of the tunnel (so to speak) and now that light is as bright as can be and an even brighter light to come! She is so excited right now. She’s calling me every few minutes. I’m going to the store right now, because she’s coming over tonight for a few hours, so I’m getting some drinks for the kids and some groceries for dinner. I’m actually going to see Laura before it’s dark out."

"Well, I have to go to VONS right now……Laura gave me a list of food to get, like gummy bears and stuff."

Sounds like not only is Dave not picking Laura up but her first meal back at home will also be without Dave.

[GoEagles]

Can someone provide a link to his blog?

thanks

[Smitty]

Who would write something like this about their ex-wife who filed for divorce over a cheating husband?

"Sunday June 24, 2007 5am: Good morning! Yesterday, was a great day all around. I hope I can translate my whole day yesterday in this blog! First of all, the kids are with Dannell. She was in Tahiti for a few weeks and didn’t look all that tan, so she must have had a great time, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN."

We all know Dannell is rolling in the dough Tommy has to pay her each month and will never have to work another day in her life but does he really have talk about what his ex-wife must be doing indoors if she didn't spend her vacation at a sunny resort in the sun? Why would he assume she spent all that time with someone intimately? Maybe she just doesn't have a thing for getting skin cancer.

"After dinner last night, Laura and I got a mani/pedi together. "

Who posted earlier that Tommy's mani/pedi partner is back in the picture?

[listener13]

"After dinner last night, Laura and I got a mani/pedi together. "

Who posted earlier that Tommy's mani/pedi partner is back in the picture?

I did - I wish I could pick lotto numbers like I can predict Tommy's metrosexual inclinations.

I'm going to be out of town next week, so I'm hoping you guys keep me up-to-date on the heartpouring of drama from Laura. I know I could listen online, but there's two reasons why I won't: I'll be in a different timezone, and, I don't care THAT much. Besides, I like how you guys reenact stuff better than the actual "stuff".

[LisaP]

Smitty, you beat me to the post. I can't believe the post "She was in Tahiti for a few weeks and didn’t look all that tan, so she must have had a great time, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN." :puke: ... I am friends with exs ... but don't THINK about them in that manner nor would I ever speak about it much less write publicly about it.

And :thumbup: to listner13. You called it right! Mani/Pedi :puke:.

So, she's been home 24 hours now, and no mention of the kids or Dave :rolleyes: . I have a friend in the military and can tell you, that upon her return from any deployment, her son is NUMBER ONE on the list.

[Ritchie]

From Tommy: I will leave it at that and wait for Laura to tell you everything Tuesday morning at 7:30.

I guess we'll hear all about it around 8:15 on Tuesday then. Remember 7:30 radio time is a lot different than actual time.

[Ritchie]

We all know Dannell is rolling in the dough Tommy has to pay her each month and will never have to work another day in her life but does he really have talk about what his ex-wife must be doing indoors if she didn't spend her vacation at a sunny resort in the sun?

He must be wishing that she will get married so he can stop those payments.

Most women in her situation are too smart for that. They will live with a guy instead of getting married and continue to collect the cash.

[Ritchie]

One more thing.

I think it's odd that Tommy is so concerned about his daughter going to the mall and yet he doesn't seem to care that much if she stays up all night on the Internet in chat rooms and using IM.

Does anyone else think that this is odd?

[SD Native]

O.k., this situation with Tommy and Laura is just plain bizarre. There is definitely something going on with them. Tommy has always said that he has a crush on Laura and there is just too much mention of her in his blogs. I think this whole absence of Laura's has something to do with Tommy and that's why Dave seems to be out of the picture. I am very eager to hear what happened to Laura and I'm sure the whole bit will bring in great ratings, but personally, reading Tommy's blogs bragging about his involvement with Laura when it should be Dave ie picking her up, giving her a cell phone, visiting, etc. leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. If Laura finds a romantic interest in Tommy after he openly demeans womens with his sexual comments on the air and in his blogs, then she deserves nothing more than what she gets.

[Village Idiot]

You've got to read the last 3 comments regarding Laura on San Diego Radio:

http://sdradio.net/2007/04/16/laura-cain-out-for-one-more-month/

[DeeTroit]

Village, that link isn't working, what's the scoop??? I read that one too and the last post I saw was the "Letterman" top ten list. Seemed funny that all the Laura posts are now gone (?)

[BecInCA]

Village- the SDradio link works fine for me. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

GoEagle- Tommy's blog can be found on the 94.1 website. Just click on the picture of Jeff and Jer and you will see the blog listed on the left side.

[DeeTroit]

Bec,
Since you can see it, can you cut and paste or share anything?

They moved to a new site and it looks like some of the old stuff wasn't moved over. I looked at the internet archives and nothing there.
Here's what I get:

See YOU on the radio | All The News Before It Hits The Stands!

Error 404 - Not Found

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[BecInCA]

Detroit:
Here is what is posted on the website, I'm wondering why you can't see it, but others can?

25 Responses to “Laura Cain: Out for one more month”

RJP says:
Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Actually, I heard it from a reliable source that Laura was selected for a reality TV show, similar to Big Brother. She has been living in isolation for the past 90 days with the exception of a few family visits that she won on the show. I hear that the show debuts in the fall.

dante61 says:
Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 11:44 am
Right……. and ‘gullible’ isn’t in the dictionary either.

carl says:
Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Laura is coming back on Monday. More facts below:

1) All indications are (from a contact at the studio who insists to remain anonymous to protect their job) that they are preparing for her return, making sure that all items that may remind her of her “problem” are removed, such as straws, mirrors, spoons, cashiers, hairdressers, or even other acquaintances, etc., that may have instrumental in her downhill plunge.

2) Staged phone calls: These phone calls are supposedly from real people but are in fact totally staged. While they bring in the discussions and humor, these mimic today’s journalistic practices: If a story doesn’t exist, make it up (i.e., NY Times Nathan Blair or the Duke Lacross case). Example, the women who’ve called in the past two weeks about the engagement ring, or the flower ring, or the one call about leaving their spouse at a gas station.

These would be more interesting if they were indeed real, but I guess this is an attempt to increase the ratings with women miserably sitting at home eating Bons-Bons.

3) Jerry: The Top Ten List continues to suck. I had a case of hemorrhoids last week that was funnier than your recent attempts at your overpaid humor. Since your team practices’ making up stories (see Item 2), why not just steal Letterman’s Top Ten from the night before. In fact, just re-play Letterman — you can remain on vacation.

4) RJP: Your reliable source is as credible as the “sitchy” calls (see Item 2)–what are you trying to do here making c*ap up on this blog? Just trying to get a response? Attention?

[DeeTroit]

Thanks for Posting! No Idea why I can't get to it,I tried both IE and Firefox. Thats the only site I've had a problem with. Oh well, it'll be interesting to see how they spin all of this tomorrow.

[SDkonstantine]

a friend found this...
case # D503974
06/21/2007
Legal Separation with UCCA San Diego
CAIN vs CAIN
http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=53,128294&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

[srdude]

a friend found this...
case # D503974
06/21/2007
Legal Separation with UCCA San Diego
CAIN vs CAIN
http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=53,128294&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

Wow, I guess Dave is really out of the picture. He should have stayed being a pilot. He probably would have been happier.

[YoungAmerican]

Filed the day before she came home. It will be interesting to see what kind of spin they put on this whole thing won't it?

[Ritchie]

Filed the day before she came home. It will be interesting to see what kind of spin they put on this whole thing won't it?

Well we saw this one coming a mile away.

I have a feeling this started before she left for rehab and her going to rehab was an attempt to keep custody of the two kids.

At least now she is available to run to the arms of Tommy. Oh wait, for him it doesn't matter if she was available or not.

[Smitty]

a friend found this...
case # D503974
06/21/2007
Legal Separation with UCCA San Diego
CAIN vs CAIN
http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=53,128294&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

So with both Tommy and Laura single again the question isn't have they gotten together but more like when will they be getting married? It will be like Jagger and Kristi all over again.

"Laura's Diary, February 27th, 2007
Tuesday, February 27, 2007 at 1:33pm

Dear Diary,

Today's rain is another sign that I picked the right man to marry. I've been getting a lot of those signs lately. When we eloped 16 years ago, it was on a rainy day. We waited until the first rainy day because it's supposed to be good luck. Sixteen years later, it's raining just as hard and we now live around the corner from where we met. It's all circular. Feels good to receive these signs.


Happy Anniversary, Davecain. I love you.

See you tomorrow, Diary. "

I guess it wasn't meant to be afterall. Perhaps she should have worked harder on keeping her marriage together by getting help for her addictions early on. We all heard her brief story about going to AA and that it wasn't for her and that she wasn't addicted to alcohol(or drugs) at all. She said she didn't belong there and didn't fit in with the other alcoholics because she didn't really have a problem. I guess that was the farthest thing from the truth.

[listener13]

a friend found this...
case # D503974
06/21/2007
Legal Separation with UCCA San Diego
CAIN vs CAIN
http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=53,128294&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL

Wow - I've been checking that site periodically, but it looks like it finally hit. Too bad for those little kids - I hope Dave gets custody (I'm sure she will).

[Ritchie]

Wow - I've been checking that site periodically, but it looks like it finally hit. Too bad for those little kids - I hope Dave gets custody (I'm sure she will).

I hope he does too. Sometimes the father is the best person to have custody.

I wonder if he will get child support from Laura.

Besides, she will need more free time to hang out with Tommy.

[LisaP]

from Tommy's Blog ...

"Laura Cain comes back at 7:30 this morning and to be totally honest with you the second she is done, I will try to write a new blog, because I can finally talk about a few things that I would like you to know about and that I would like to share with you since March 6th, the day I started to lose weight and workout and the date that Laura was last on the air. There are certain things I had to stay away from in my writings to you, but can talk about NOW, the minute Laura Cain finishes her letter to you this morning."

I am guessing he's gonna give the answer to the Cain's separation.

[Ritchie]

So Laura's speech made mention of drugs at the beginning and then she only talked about alcohol from that point on.

Still no mention of Dave. Not even in all the people she had to thank.

[Smitty]

Laura's speech only reaffirmed what we all knew on this board. What I was disappointed with was the fact that she failed to mention her husband Dave at all. She never mentioned him for support. She never mentioned the pending divorce that was obviously brought on by her addictions. Somehow I feel cheated after waiting 100 days to hear this. It was definitely sugar coated. I guess we'll just have to look forward to picking bits and pieces out of her diary and comments on the air that indicate her marriage with her perfect husband is over because she was too full of herself to find help sooner.

It's clear to me the drug addiction was far more significant then we were led on to believe. It is probably why even on her salary and with Dave making good money that she always complained about not having any money. Drug addictions are very expensive. I bet Dave wasn't too fond of her draining the bank accounts for her addiction.

There was no thank you to sausage fingers Cree. She was definitely one of the negative influences in her life. Who here thinks she has to find a new hairdresser?

[ca_girl]

LSBM (Laura still bugs me)

She doesn't sound AS nasally as she used to. That's what happens when your cocaine addiction goes away. You can breathe through your nose again.

[apossible]

a friend found this...
case # D503974
06/21/2007
Legal Separation with UCCA San Diego
CAIN vs CAIN
http://www.sdcourt.ca.gov/portal/page?_pageid=53,128294&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL


I am unable to get anywhere on this site to read anything. Would someone please tell me exactly what it says? Thanks so much.


LBM already. But I am glad she did the rehab stint.

[ca_girl]

I am unable to get anywhere on this site to read anything. Would someone please tell me exactly what it says? Thanks so much.


LBM already. But I am glad she did the rehab stint.
Case Title: CAIN vs CAIN
Case Number: D503974 Case Location: San Diego
Case Type: Domestic Date Filed: 06/21/2007
Category: A55205 Legal Separation with UCCA

Plaintiff/Petitioner
Last Name or Business Name First Name Primary (P)
CAIN DAVID P

Defendant/Respondent
Last Name or Business Name First Name Primary (P)
CAIN LAURA P

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Microfilm ID Location Reel Number Frame Number
This case has not been microfilmed.

[YoungAmerican]

Pretty much what I expected. Sugar coated for sure. She leads us to believe it was all about alcohol with just a blip about drugs in the beginning of her speel. Who knows if the station told her not to elaborate too much on the drug side of things because people, for some reason, look at drug addicts as being worse than alcoholics. Yeah, not even a mention about Dave in all this. I wonder where she is staying? She mentioned something about "calling" Charlie and talking to him so it sounded like she must not be at home. Tommy probably got her an apartment.

[sameome]

I couldn't even listen the whole 10 minute-drive to work.
Did somebody say the calls were all staged? It sure sounded like it. I had to change station when Laura faked the laugh so hard that it was more annoying than ever.
Anyway, I think she is very luck to have her high-paid doing nothing(annoying people) job back. It's sad that she destroyed her family.

[Smitty]

There is no question about it. Tommy was telling the callers who were calling in that they cannot mention Dave on the air. I can't believe not one single caller asked about how Dave is taking it and if he's supportive and how things are with him.

[Green_Monsta]

that Jerry hardly said anything? Probably since he's an alcoholic himself! Yeah, I noticed there was no mention of Dave or Cree. My friend said that months ago, she talked about AA on the air and how she was going to go but Cree was on another line telling her not to do it. Apparently, Cree will be out of her life if she wants to stay clean!

She does sound much better...clearer...doesn't have that "I've got a cold" sound, obviously due to the drugs. I'm happy she's getting her life back in order.

[Ritchie]

Did somebody say the calls were all staged? It sure sounded like it.

Just about everything is staged. The calls were screened to be only positive and make no mention of Dave. I guess she isn't ready to discuss that yet.

Jer was very quiet during everything.

The drug portion was glossed over by her saying "drinking and using" and another mention of drugs and that was it.

As far as staged goes, realize that when they act surprised about something that is said, they actually discussed it before getting on the air.

[Wabbitsd]

I didn't hear the whole pitch from Laura, thank goodness. I hadn't gotten in the car yet. But I did hear that "best friend" of hers...thought it was a little careless that they mentioned that Laura's Dad and this gal's Mom (both deceased) would be "clinking their glasses" in congratulations. I know it's a little politically correct, but I would think if this friend is a good friend, she would try to edit out references to alcohol use and abuse...

But you know, neither she nor Tommy nor the rest of the crew really "Get it." Even in Tommy's blog, he is doing it because he wants to "look good." She's done what she has done (and not much of a workout at a swanky resort rehab center..." and she said she was telling folks at her rehab that "She's a pretty big deal in San Diego." Hard to put your finger on it for them, but Jeff, Jerry, Laura and Tommy...they all DON'T get it. They all still think life and the world revolve around them.

[Smitty]

Well we know everyone's current marital status and why except for Laura. Eventually it will be revealed on the air. There's no way they'll keep it from us for that long. We'll hear about custody battles, selling the "perfect" home in the "perfect" neighborhood near SDSU, etc before too long. I just hope Chip doesn't miss Charlie too much.

[yourmama]

from Tommy's Blog ...

"Laura Cain comes back at 7:30 this morning and to be totally honest with you the second she is done, I will try to write a new blog, because I can finally talk about a few things that I would like you to know about and that I would like to share with you since March 6th, the day I started to lose weight and workout and the date that Laura was last on the air. There are certain things I had to stay away from in my writings to you, but can talk about NOW, the minute Laura Cain finishes her letter to you this morning."

I am guessing he's gonna give the answer to the Cain's separation.

did Tommy devulge anything on his blog? I can't access star from work!

[YoungAmerican]

Laura also mentioned something about the very strict rules in rehab like no sweets after a certain time. Then she says how Tommy "sneaked" candy into her??? How's that for you? May not seem like such a big thing but rules are rules. When you sign up for a program you are suppose to follow the rules, like it or not. Otherwise you start making one exception here, one exception there and before you know it you're back where you started from. I hope I'm wrong, for her children's sake, but how much do you want to bet that it won't be long before, one day, Laura is just gone from the show, without any explaination, and it will be because she just couldn't handle the "stress" of her everyday (easy) life and caved in to her addictions again?

[Green_Monsta]

did Tommy devulge anything on his blog? I can't access star from work!

No...not yet. No new posts since 2AM.

[Smitty]

Tommy's latest blog entry:

"I never had a problem, but I love it that I will not drink or do anything anymore in support of Laura. "

"do anything anymore" sounds like Tommy was also doing the drugs as mentioned previously on this message board. We were unable to conclude if he was one of her suppliers but it does make sense that he was involved in her downfall. I sure hope they both have put this behind them although Tommy could probably use his own rehab treatment.

[DeeTroit]

For the kids sake I really do hope both Laura and Tommy clean up their act. Many of my relatives have battled alcoholism. Some quit without assistance and some went through a program. Those that dealt with their "issues" in addition to the addiction stayed sober. One stayed sober, but didn't deal with the "issues" and unfortunately became a very bitter lonely person. Having grown up in this environment, I don't see that Laura has fully dealt with her "issues" (insecurities, me me me, I'm the shizz in San Diego, sneaking candy as someone mentioned etc). Now the replays are seeming to propel her into sainthood which will feed her addictive ego--not good!

For the kids, I'm glad she's trying and wish her the best, as I am a child of an alcoholic (who has since passed away because of it). I personally rarely drink, only toasts, an occasional glass of wine at dinner etc) because I am scared to death to tempt the fate of my genes. I love the life I have too much to ever risk it. Alcoholism/addiction is not a pretty life. When a Man Loves a Woman is a great movie about this topic.

[ca_girl]

Tommy's Blog:
" I have never ever got in trouble or lost my job or anything that defines BOTTOMING OUT, but that doesn’t necessarily mean, you don’t belong in AA or NA. "

"When I first heard Laura was in a place and probably not coming out for several days, it took me less than a second to get in my car and to go to where she was and go past security and go in the elevator as if I belonged there to find my friend. When I first heard Laura was in a place and probably not coming out for several days, it took me less than a second to get in my car and to go to where she was and go past security and go in the elevator as if I belonged there to find my friend. I found her in a room all by herself sleeping and I woke her up and smiled at her and she wanted to tell me that she was sorry and I stopped her before she went on and I hugged her ever so tight and held her hand and I did not want to hear any sorry’s or apologies coming out of her mouth."

So Laura bottomed out. Thoughts as to what happened? She obviously wasn't in jail, since he went to her bedside. She very obviously was in San Diego, too. Did Davecain tell her he was leaving with the kids & she went on a bender & was found who knows where & taken to a hospital/mental ward?

[Wabbitsd]

I'm sorry, and maybe I am just too judgemental and stringent. But I'd really like to quit hearing this "star treatment" routine of folks who have addictions. I would bet a large amount of money there are many young people out there who would be willing to do her job and not bring along the baggage train of addiction that she has. I really think it's a cop out for the station to be doing this...someone mentioned the miserable bon bon eating folks that they evidently think is their target audience...well, if it is, they are doing no one any favors by putting Laura up on a pedestal for her showboat routine. If she were truly going to do a real review of her life, she would quit the spotlight and work on herself. She's already cheated on the rules at the plushy rehab place, she's broken up the family...what next?

[DeeTroit]

Wabbit, we're on the same page, you'll see that my post says we're elevating her to sainthood. This treatment isn't doing anyone any favors, it's already nauseating and WILL NOT help her. Sure she can have support if she needs it-thats what sponsors are for.

[Smitty]

So Laura bottomed out. Thoughts as to what happened? She obviously wasn't in jail, since he went to her bedside. She very obviously was in San Diego, too. Did Davecain tell her he was leaving with the kids & she went on a bender & was found who knows where & taken to a hospital/mental ward?


My guess is that she bottomed out the day Charlie ran head first into a pole at school. Again this is just a guess but it sounds like Laura was either strung out on drugs or drunk from drinking when she got the call about what happened or even worse, perhaps Charlie got into her stash which is what might have led to him running head first into a pole. In either case, I'm sure Dave had flat out had enough. I don't blame him. The fact that Dave filed for legal seperation the day before Laura returned from rehab leads me to believe Dave doesn't believe she's changed enough to make the marriage work. That or maybe he just waited 90 days before filing enjoying his time away from Laura not wanting to think about her and what had happened.

Anyone else here also notice the postings around mid April. SD Radio also reported in mid April that Laura would be returning the following week. From her letter, it sounded like she too thought it was only a 28 day treatment program and was devastated to find out it required an additional 60 day treatment program at another facility. I'm guessing she communicated the 28 day stay to everyone then had to change it to 90 days. I found it interesting when she mentioned Bob Bollinger decided to keep paying her salary during this ordeal. That was nice of him! I wonder if she'll have to make up the hours working weekends or at a minimum Star events promoting Bardon and Sleep Train. Whooo Whooo!

[Green_Monsta]

So where is Charlie going to get his snacks now since they can't go to the liquor store? :spock:

[Ritchie]

So Laura bottomed out. Thoughts as to what happened? She obviously wasn't in jail, since he went to her bedside. She very obviously was in San Diego, too. Did Davecain tell her he was leaving with the kids & she went on a bender & was found who knows where & taken to a hospital/mental ward?

She went somewhere that Tommy had to go past security and up an elevator. She must of been somewhere that directed her to this place since she didn't return after the bottoming out.

Also, NR seems rather quiet. Nothing to add thank goodness. I guess it is hard to defend something that has no defense.

[SD Native]

It seems as though the only one giving Laura the star treatment is Tommy. The way he is gushing over her in his blogs and on the air, is just ridiculous. I too noticed that Jer didn't have much to say this morning. I wonder what he has to say of the blossoming romance between Laura and Tommy.

[sameome]

http://jeffandjer.star941sandiego.com/front.html

Look at Laura's picture on the page. Did she get a boob job too?

Also on her May 23 diary, she said, "My sweet babies are doing amazingly well considering they are without their Mamma. Davecain brought them up last Saturday. He told me that Charlie had his choice of playing baseball, golfing in a tournament or going to visit Mamma. He chose Mamma. Oh, my heart melts once again. He's also turning out to be quite the photographer. Just wait till I show you some of the artsy photos that boy has taken. You will be so blown away by the maturity of these pictures." And just about a little over a month after visiting her, Dave filed legal separation!

[LisaP]

So, any guesses on what is going to happen to the "Showgram"?

Laura = No Drink Anymore
Tommy = No Drink In Support Of Laura
Jeff = No Drink For Religion [COUGH]
Randy = No Drink? [Do His Parents Let Him?]
Jer = ODD MAN OUT

And I agree with many of the above. For "baring her soul for all to hear", Laura left out one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle [Dave]. I am guessing that she might have to have his permission? to put their [his] personal life "on the air", and he said "no".

And just as I head off to bed, KUSI cuts in with a "teaser". Laura Cain talks about Coming Back and Her Time In Rehab.

KUSI said she was in a 28 day treatment for "drugs and alcohol".

[BecInCA]

Okay, so I listened to the Showgram on my way to work today. Laura's voice sounds so much clearer now. No more of that nasally tone to it.

Laura suggested a bit that she came up with while in rehab. She said she had to give urine samples every other day, so she thought it would be funny to ask people to share stories about places where they have peed. At first I rolled my eyes and thought about how lame this idea would be. But I have to admit, it turned out to be pretty darn funny. I actually started to laugh out loud (that must have looked weird to those who passed by me during my commute). Anyways, I hope that this is a sign of things to come. Maybe this whole experience will liven up the show, cuz it sure needs it!

I'm glad to hear that Laura is getting better, too bad it cost her her marriage and maybe even her chances of full custody of her kiddos. It was almost a relief when I heard that she was in rehab because her diary entries in the months before she went in were getting really bizarre. I wish her well. :)

[ca_girl]

Laura's Diary:
"I find myself saying "uh, what do I do now" when I have idle time on my hands"

You can take care of your kids for once, instead of sleeping during the day, like you used to.

[yourmama]

Laura's Diary:
"I find myself saying "uh, what do I do now" when I have idle time on my hands"

You can take care of your kids for once, instead of sleeping during the day, like you used to.

yes, taking care of the kids, spending time with the kids? new concept to her. NOT hanging out at the liquor store for lotto tix, not shopping when you don't have any money, and not 'borrowing' your kids money from their piggy bank. also will take the bet that she will relapse. from her return, her focus is all about her. somethings never change

[Ritchie]

yes, taking care of the kids, spending time with the kids? new concept to her. NOT hanging out at the liquor store for lotto tix, not shopping when you don't have any money, and not 'borrowing' your kids money from their piggy bank. also will take the bet that she will relapse. from her return, her focus is all about her. somethings never change

yourmamma, it has always been about her.

I think it's great that she is finally off the juice and her nose candy, but she still bugs the heck out of me.

She is using this whole rehab thing as another way to say "hey look at me, I've been through rehab. Don't you think I'm pretty."

LSBM

[jjgumba]

Seems to me Dave filed for the sep right before she returned out of respect for her somewhat public life (and his), and to protect the kids. He then filed at the end to protect the kids and whatever custody stuff is going on and also to remain true to his own boundaries. Note it was a sep not a divorce filing, so maybe there is hope for the Cain kids' family sticking together. For their sakes I hope so and I hope Laura does what it takes to continue to earn some of the respect and trust she blew to smitherens with this awful disease.

I am slightly concerned that she did not say she had 100 days (or whatever) clean and sober, makes me wonder if she slipped between facilities. I for one am ready to hear the real deal of what set this whole thing off. I agree it had something to do with Charlie's header into the pole. I also wonder where she was prior to the rehab in Oregon; someplace with security per Tommy's blog, some sort of local detox I bet, though he couldn't just stroll past security there. Dave probably kicked her out and she was just in a hotel.

The drama continues.

[BecInCA]

I just looked at Tommy's recent photos on his blog. The one's with Laura sure look as if she did visit Dr. Bucko for the boob job while she was away after all. Maybe in between her rehab stints??? That would account for the time in between her two visits. Hmmmm.

[YoungAmerican]

In her diary she says she's gone from a sz 4 to a sz 10. That probably has alot to do with her new boobs. She has no hips so it makes sense that with her body type she would gain weight in her boobs.

Also taken from her diary:
Yesterday, I was hovering over Charlie, who was asleep in the car. He opened up his huge green eyes, saw me and practically jumped up into my arms. He just hugs and hugs me.

Yeah, get a clue. You were physically gone for 3 months and mentally gone for who knows how long before that. The poor kids are probably scared to death of losing their momma again.

I really find it ironic too that yesterday they play Charlie singing that song by Coldplay "fix you". It's a sad commentary if they didn't pickup on the sadness of her little boy singing this song for his mom. Children so often feel they are the reason for their parent problems and need to "fix" things.

[listener13]

I'm out of town, but it looks like I've missed a lot, and yet nothing at all. I'm sure she's under legal "advise" to not discuss certain topics, such as her marriage (or lack thereof).

I hope she's done with all of her addictions, but one still seems to linger - the "look at me, look at me" addiction that she has. That will always be her biggest addiction, and there isn't a 12 step program and celebrity rehab to enter for that, because if there were, there would be no one left in showbiz.

Tommy needs a "blogectomy" because it all sounds fake and forced - just like everyone on that showgram.

[Wabbitsd]

LOL, a "blogectomy....."

It's not just the "Look at Me" Syndrome.... it's the curse of the "Rules are for those other people, not for me."

When the new buddies at the NA/AA meetings get tired of her being "a San Diego Big Deal," she and Tommy will be stopping off for cocktails after a few of those meetings. Tommy's still in denial.

[Ritchie]

Does anyone else here think it is weird that Tommy is going to Laura's meetings with her. It sounds like he plans to go with her to every one.

[listener13]

Does anyone else here think it is weird that Tommy is going to Laura's meetings with her. It sounds like he plans to go with her to every one.

Nah - sounds to me like Tommy is 1)concerned that he will end up going down the path of his brothers and hoping that this will scare him straight, 2)trying to support Laura and maybe be her "shoulder to cry on" - and probably wants it to lead to something more serious, 3)has a serious lack of anything better to do, 4)wants everyone to think he's the "best guy ever" in the hopes that we can all forget his womenizing and crappy marriages caused mostly by his actions. Oh, and let's not forget 5) he needs to have some stupid crap to write in that blog every 3 hours.

S10LBM (Size 10 Laura Bugs Me)
Tommy needs to have Dr. Bucko give him a blogectomy:throw:

Oh, and someone mentioned it earlier - I wonder why NR isn't weighing in on this with her stooooopid moronic opinions....gee, hope something BAD didn't happen to her!!!!:rolleyes:

[Smitty]

This is just getting plain ridiculous. S10LBM!!!! I realize laughter might be the best medicine for what Laura is going through with her failing marriage and recovery but c'mon! She has got to quit laughing at every little thing JnJ say on the air. This is just getting out of hand. Her laugh is drowning everything out and she's laughing at stuff that isn't even remotely funny. New Laura might be more annoying than old hung over and strung out Laura. They need to look into turning off her microphone.

[sameome]

This is just getting plain ridiculous. S10LBM!!!! I realize laughter might be the best medicine for what Laura is going through with her failing marriage and recovery but c'mon! She has got to quit laughing at every little thing JnJ say on the air. This is just getting out of hand. Her laugh is drowning everything out and she's laughing at stuff that isn't even remotely funny. New Laura might be more annoying than old hung over and strung out Laura. They need to look into turning off her microphone.

I concur and ASLBM(Any Size Laura Bugs Me)!!!!

[Wabbitsd]

I love this site...you guys crack me up!!!

Right on, Right on!!!

[krak70]

http://jeffandjer.star941sandiego.com/front.html

Look at Laura's picture on the page. Did she get a boob job too?

I think it's the exra weight...that and a push up bra.

[jjgumba]

Check out Tommy's blog today where he scolds those that have posed the tougher questions. He's all about the show and listeners being family till it comes to the tough questions--yeah we can put 2 and 2 together and know that Laura's marriage has fallen apart and what instigated this is her inability to mother her children in favor of drugs and being a pathetic, middle aged, party girl that was too f'd up to take care of her son when he was injured. So much for her desire to help others, I don't think she's made it that far in her steps because it's still all about me and how can everyone else support and congratulate on my big accomplishment. I think they should just put a lid on the rehab talk, if they aren't going to go all the way. I hope Laura realizes she is being used for ratings and that a lot of people, hard as they might try, just can't turn their heads from a train wreck--so yeah, it's all about family-HA!

[ca_girl]

Lauar's Diary - 2 days in a row! WOW.
"I forgot that I bought the cutest top at Abi Boutique right before I was shipped off to rehab. It was on the hanger with a matching necklace, just the way I left it. I thought, "I wasn't THAT messed up. Look at the cute outfit I put together!!!""

Yeah, you could put together an outfit that YOU think is cute, but you couldn't stop your daughter from eating dirt & your son from cracking his head open. That's the way to prioritize!

ASLBM

[jjgumba]

Yeah, you could put together an outfit that YOU think is cute, but you couldn't stop your daughter from eating dirt & your son from cracking his head open. That's the way to prioritize

LOL.

[Wabbitsd]

"I thought, 'I wasn't THAT messed up. Look at the cute outfit I put together!!!'"

First step in the road back to the substance abuse....denying it was that big of a problem.

AND OHMYGOD. She is going to drive the kids to the Fair? not just her kid, but someone else's too? Who would let their kid drive in a car with her???

[YoungAmerican]

Everyone here can see it, how come no one else does? Since her first moments out of rehab there have been numerous things said by her and her actions that really show she hasn't really come to grips with how BAD she was. It is sort of like she's going through the motions, putting on the show but keeps telling herself that she really wasn't THAT messed up. She is probably blaming alot of stuff on Dave because he is the one who MADE her go to rehab, and she really only did it for that reason, not because she reached the end of her rope and knew it was time. It is really sad but shows her anger at Dave I think by the fact that she can't admit it was HER problem and apologize. That's the one thing we haven't heard out of her mouth yet is not one single apology

[sameome]

Everyone here can see it, how come no one else does? Since her first moments out of rehab there have been numerous things said by her and her actions that really show she hasn't really come to grips with how BAD she was. It is sort of like she's going through the motions, putting on the show but keeps telling herself that she really wasn't THAT messed up. She is probably blaming alot of stuff on Dave because he is the one who MADE her go to rehab, and she really only did it for that reason, not because she reached the end of her rope and knew it was time. It is really sad but shows her anger at Dave I think by the fact that she can't admit it was HER problem and apologize. That's the one thing we haven't heard out of her mouth yet is not one single apology

I am not sure she is mad at Dave. I think she enjoys the attention she is getting because of her rehab experience. Even KUSI did a news bit on her. Just my opinion.

[Wabbitsd]

I hope she does some kind of comparison of the various rehab places....maybe folks could call in and compare experiences with her (not) :puke:

[Ritchie]

From Tommy's Blog: If there is something that hasn’t been discussed or mentioned, then most likely you can probably take an educated guess yourself to what may be happening. Sometimes, an omission speaks louder than words. Do you understand that?

I wonder if this is in reference to Dave and the pending divorce.

I think Laura is an attention whore and is really enjoying what she is getting from Tommy.

Also, I tuned it hopeful that her stay in rehab would make her less shallow and self absorbed. Not much has changed.

[Scrapper]

Wabbitsd said:
It's not just the "Look at Me" Syndrome.... it's the curse of the "Rules are for those other people, not for me."

I totally agree!

Ritchie said: Also, I tuned it hopeful that her stay in rehab would make her less shallow and self absorbed. Not much has changed.

I think L is pathetic - and her high opinion of herself telling fellow addicts "she's a big deal" in San Diego is a soooooo
telling. I really was hopeful , too, that'd she get a dose of humility. She's lucky she kept her job, much less got paid while in rehab. She needs a dose of "real world" living, like living like the rest of us "not such a big deal in san diego"have to.

I am glad she attempted to straighten up, but I for one don't think it will last - call me cynical. I hope it does, for the sake her children - they deserve that at a minimum. Dave deserves a medal for dealing with it all.

How'd she ever get a job doing radio anyway? She's not funny, she's ugly, totally self absorbed......yadda yadda yadda....

I've wasted enough time and air........over and out.

[sameome]

Wabbitsd said:

How'd she ever get a job doing radio anyway? She's not funny, she's ugly, totally self absorbed......yadda yadda yadda....



I think the ugly part kinda qualifies her... :P
or I should say to do radio, you don't have to be pretty.

[Wabbitsd]

I've got to say, I bet the folks at the "meetings" that Tommy and Laura "do their appearances" at are just "thrilled" that they have such important celebrities choosing their meetings for an appearance. Does the station provide stickers? Maybe little keychains with a saying "I'm as sober as Tommy and Laura" and such? Maybe the station foots the bill for coffee?

I bet the groups all start thinking early in the afternoon, "I wonder if Laura and Tommy will come visit US? oh, I do hope so!"

I'm thinking of BECOMING an alcoholic, just so I can go into some kind of pandering rehab and have something in common with the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan without having to go through the distress and inconvenience of an overindulged childhood.

[Scrapper]

Wabbittsd said :I bet the groups all start thinking early in the afternoon, "I wonder if Laura and Tommy will come visit US? oh, I do hope so!"

I'm thinking of BECOMING an alcoholic, just so I can go into some kind of pandering rehab and have something in common with the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan without having to go through the distress and inconvenience of an overindulged childhood.

Yeah, haha..I bet you are right - there are probably "group stalkers" that will be attending meetings in hoping to see the "dopey duo" in action. Remember the movie Fight Club? Where Edward Norton did that-went to many diff meetings, all for the emotional boost he got from it-he was addicted.

I can see Laura now - basking in all the attention and adoration from others who buy her BS and who think she's special.

She's as ugly inside sameome!

[yourmama]

Wabbittsd said :I bet the groups all start thinking early in the afternoon, "I wonder if Laura and Tommy will come visit US? oh, I do hope so!"

I'm thinking of BECOMING an alcoholic, just so I can go into some kind of pandering rehab and have something in common with the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan without having to go through the distress and inconvenience of an overindulged childhood.

Yeah, haha..I bet you are right - there are probably "group stalkers" that will be attending meetings in hoping to see the "dopey duo" in action. Remember the movie Fight Club? Where Edward Norton did that-went to many diff meetings, all for the emotional boost he got from it-he was addicted.

I can see Laura now - basking in all the attention and adoration from others who buy her BS and who think she's special.

She's as ugly inside sameome!

you all have said it! Laura and Tommy basking in all the attention! all about "me", nothing has changed. also, why do they go to a different AA meeting each day? more attention, being the celebrity anew! It would be 'sobering' and mundane to go to the same meeting with the same group every day, or every week?

[listener13]

Has anyone read Laura's diary from today (Friday)? OMG! Doesn't Claim Jumper realize that Laura and Tommy are a BIG DEAL in this town? They didn't get supersized meals - hey, Claim Humper - Laura and Tommy are a BIG DEAL! Make sure they get an extra apple on their plates next time, people!

And she's raising her son to be a narcissistic loser, just like her. I'm "Laura Cain's son" - Oh, is that the Laura Cain that let you get hurt on her watch? Is that the Laura Cain that let's your sister eat dirt?

And her rehab had a "patio check"? WTH is that? It's not the "Girl, Interrupted" scene she would like us to believe. Three months sharing a room with Angelina Jolle - THAT'S what she needed - but it sounds like she was in a "what time is the tennis lessons" rehab. Whatever........

I'm thinking that she missed one of the biggest of the 12 steps - you have to admit that you have a problem. Not because it will get you better ratings or more attention that you don't deserve.

[yourmama]

Has anyone read Laura's diary from today (Friday)? OMG! Doesn't Claim Jumper realize that Laura and Tommy are a BIG DEAL in this town? They didn't get supersized meals - hey, Claim Humper - Laura and Tommy are a BIG DEAL! Make sure they get an extra apple on their plates next time, people!

And she's raising her son to be a narcissistic loser, just like her. I'm "Laura Cain's son" - Oh, is that the Laura Cain that let you get hurt on her watch? Is that the Laura Cain that let's your sister eat dirt?

And her rehab had a "patio check"? WTH is that? It's not the "Girl, Interrupted" scene she would like us to believe. Three months sharing a room with Angelina Jolle - THAT'S what she needed - but it sounds like she was in a "what time is the tennis lessons" rehab. Whatever........

I'm thinking that she missed one of the biggest of the 12 steps - you have to admit that you have a problem. Not because it will get you better ratings or more attention that you don't deserve.
in her diary she also said that she was shipped off to rehab

[listener13]

in her diary she also said that she was shipped off to rehab

She ABSOLUTELY got shipped off to rehab - it wasn't something she chose for herself......and I'm thinking the State had something to do with that. Either way, it sounds to me like even in rehab, instead of looking inward to try to find out WHY she was there and make some serious changes, she was playing the "who's the prettiest girl in the room" game.......totally missing the point.

[BecInCA]

insightbyjake says:
Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 1:14 am
Here is tomorrow’s show:

Jeff: “What a great family they are! Dave and Laura! And those great kids!”
Jer: “I have the top ten reasons to love that family!”
Tommy: “I have a great family! Have I mentioned my mom and how hard my childhood was?”
Randy: “My childhood is almost over! I’m thinking about moving out of my home after 43 years. Have I mentioned my wonderful girl, Debbie?”
Jeff: “I know all about great families!! I have five beautiful children being raised by three different mom’s. I learned how to be a great Dad for multiple families in church!”
Jer: “I know all about moms! They have big jugs!! Did I mention I’m an alcoholic and I get most of my jokes from on-line resources?”
Tommy: “My brother was an addict. Did I mention that 74 times? Plus, I had to eat rice and hot dogs alot. Anyone want to hear why I’m fat?”
Jeff: “I read a great book on that! ‘Christians Who Get To Say Anything Because They Are Never Called Out For Being A Hypocrite’I used to be fat too. But, Jesus saves millionaire sleep-walkers!”
Laura: “Does Sleep-Train sponsor rehab-divorce assistance-acting sessions-while I wish I could be Kelly Rippa- classes?”
Stay tuned next week when the “best of Jeff And Jer” finishes playing while our “heroes” vacation in Italy-Tennessee-Disneyland-Chula Vista- and Betty Ford!

“It’s all about the kids!” Don’t you wish your kids could grow up to be just like them?!

:lmfao:

[LisaP]

BecInCA ~

Than is priceless!

[abmik]

you all have said it! Laura and Tommy basking in all the attention! all about "me", nothing has changed. also, why do they go to a different AA meeting each day? more attention, being the celebrity anew! It would be 'sobering' and mundane to go to the same meeting with the same group every day, or every week?

i'm a lurker and love this sight!

i'm also the ex of an alcoholic.

not to get preachy but . . .

a big part of aa is a meeting a day - 30 meetings in 30 days.

laura thinks rehab was hard - she hasn't begun to know hard. and her children, they're young, but they have been effected (affected?) and will be for the rest of their lives. it's sad.

that having been said -

lbmbt (laura bugs me big time)

[Village Idiot]

I am a recovering addict.

Yes - 30 meetings in 30 days. I tried to stay with the same meetings so that I could get to know others who were in the same shoes as me and to seek out a sponsor with in my 30 days.

I did it for me and no one else - not my family, not my friends, not my job but for me. I was sick and wanted to get well. I wanted to be a productive member of society.

I heard her announcement. I was happy that she admitted she is an alcoholic but part of me thinks she is more of a drug addict than alcoholic. I guess alcoholic sounds better than drug addict - better public acceptance.

No matter how hard she tries, you cannot sugarcoat addiction and recovery. She better take it seriously or else she will fail.

[LisaP]

Village Idiot - Congrats on your success. I too would think that one would stick to the same meetings, to establish a stable network with people they can depend on. Definately sounds like Laura [and Tommy] are making the "self promotion" rounds. I wonder if Star 94.1 is gonna start having AA commercials?

From Tommy's Blog:

I get in my car and we listen to Laura read her letter. (I think she could of went on longer when she talked about me)..Just kidding. Hey, by the way, I’m not trying to get too personal, but did you know Laura didn’t mention--------------Randy? Or maybe it was someone else, I forget.

I know it has been mentioned before, that Tommy probably reads this thread. More proof here"

Laura jokingly said there were 91 people there, because “she’s a really big deal”.

:rolleyes: Yup, rehab didn't touch on the "get over yourself already - it isn't 'All About You'".

Laura was upfront with everyone on the walk and everyone on the walk was not too shy to ask Laura questions on where she’s been and who was or WASN’T supporting her. She answered very openly to everyone!

Hmmmm, who's NOT supporting her, well she hasn't mentioned Davecain at all, nor Cree, not much mention of Jer [won't give up his "wine"], and not much mention of Jeff [surprised that Laura isn't going to church with him too].

[listener13]

BeciniCA:
You're funnier than that freaking show.....when is your show? I'd like to listen to THAT.

The only one that DOESN'T seem to have problems now is Randy.....that might change when he comes out of the closet, but for now, he's the most stable one of the bunch.

[YoungAmerican]

From Tommy's blog:
Right now, I feel beat up and I’m very dusty from the mountains. I need to take a shower and a nap then drag my sober ass friend to a meeting!

And so it has begun already. She is already missing meetings and Tommy is having to "drag" her to them.?? She really doesn't seem like she is taking this whole thing very seriously does it?

[listener13]

From Tommy's blog:
Right now, I feel beat up and I’m very dusty from the mountains. I need to take a shower and a nap then drag my sober ass friend to a meeting!

And so it has begun already. She is already missing meetings and Tommy is having to "drag" her to them.?? She really doesn't seem like she is taking this whole thing very seriously does it?

And that sort of surprises me - when would she miss an opportunity to get attention?

Can't you just hear her introducing herself....."hi,my name is Laura Cain, from the highest rated morning show Jeff and Jer and Star 94.1, am I not beautiful.....oh, and I'm an alcoholic and substance abuser - you should all love and adore me - now, that's enough about you, what do YOU think of me?"

[YoungAmerican]

The Jeff & Jer email blog is so nausiating! I very rarely check it out but after doing so today you can sure tell whose deciding what emails go up. Every single entry is about Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. Tommy you're such a wonderful friend, Tommy you're such a great dad, Tommy you're such a caring son, Tommy you're such an inspiration telling us how to lose weight like you did by eating 3 almonds and drinking lots of water and oh yeah, spending hours and hours (hours you have and normal people don't because we actually have to spend more that 4 hours at our job) each day working out. Why is it called the Jeff & Jer email blog anyway? The way the show has turned lately it really should be called the Tommy and Laura show.

[Wabbitsd]

Bec...great job, LOL! thanks!


Village Idiot...you know there is something about her....I guess it's the fake "Im recovering and you all are lucky to be around me" thing she is doing. I think she is doing the whole concept of "recovery" a disservice and this station and all who are enabling this attention-seeking junkie.

[Village Idiot]

Bec...great job, LOL! thanks!


Village Idiot...you know there is something about her....I guess it's the fake "Im recovering and you all are lucky to be around me" thing she is doing. I think she is doing the whole concept of "recovery" a disservice and this station and all who are enabling this attention-seeking junkie.

AARRRGGGHHH!! She makes me want to :puke: !!!!

When she hits bottom AGAIN, then maybe, just maybe, she will get a clue as to what recovery is all about. Actually I don't think ANY of them have a clue - they are enablers and in denial over her and their own problems.

IMHO - she doesn't seem humble enough and she needs to start working her 12 Steps a little more thoroughly.

Thank you for letting me share. :)

[Wabbitsd]

VI, Thanks for sharing your perspective...:thumbup:

[Ritchie]

From Tommy: This was our 7th meeting in 10 days. We need to double up a few times so Laura can do the 90 meetings in 90 days that she’s trying for.

It sounds like she is slacking off already. I thought the whole goal was a meeting a day. I didn't realize she could sit in meetings all day and take care of the next two weeks.

Also from Tommy: It’s kind of funny how Laura and I are getting emails from people DEMANDING Laura to speak and DEMANDING Laura to tell them what they want to hear.

I wonder what these emails are about. Is it what is going on with Dave or is it what is going on between these two or a combination of the two.

[DeeTroit]

How nauseating can Little turd, I mean Tommy get??? From his blog "Man, there was one woman there that made Pamela Anderson look like a 12 year old boy. She was frickin HUGE, OKAY, I better get back on track here. I was honored last night to give Laura her little 90 day token."

So this loser (and I hate that word) is sitting in a recovery meeting checking out women as he's getting ready to give a 90 day token. :puke: :puke: :puke: The fact that he further deamans the symbolism of the token by calling it "little token" proves that he just doesn't get it and has no right to be sitting in that meeting. He doesn't deserve to. Aaagh LTMMP (little tommy makes me puke)LBM. Happy 4th!

[jjgumba]

I think it's ironic that Tommy is all irritated that people want the details and inside scoop that he flippin' promised! It would have us all in tears he claimed! Guess he spoke/wrote too soon...The whole thing has been pretty anti-climatic. Does anyone else think Laura still has that tweeker nasally voice going? It is better, but definitely still there to me. Seems like clear channel needs to start drug testing their employees...Tommy's pretty much admitted to being a user too. Great for his 12 year old daughter to read in his blog, as well as him constantly objectifying women...he'd better become a little more mindful if he doesn't want her to be a coke whore by age 15. But hey, she's not meeting up with boys at the mall or fair, so his job is done.

[Smitty]

That was really a touching story regarding the signing of the Declaration of Independence Jerry read on the air in honor of the 4th of July. It's just a real shame Jerry didn't have the courtesy and decency to read it live on the air instead of pulling a tape of it off the shelf from last year's reading of the story. This combined with the movie mom replay leads me to believe the entire showgram taped a "see ya" message to be played at 9:59am this morning then all took off around 9:00am or so. They've got a GREAT life! Happy 4th everyone!

[yourmama]

[QUOTE=Ritchie]From Tommy: This was our 7th meeting in 10 days. We need to double up a few times so Laura can do the 90 meetings in 90 days that she’s trying for.

It sounds like she is slacking off already. I thought the whole goal was a meeting a day. I didn't realize she could sit in meetings all day and take care of the next two weeks.

isn't this kinda like running a stop sign, and promising to stop next time twice to make up?

[Wabbitsd]

LOL, yourmama. But remember, Laura and Tommy are not regular people who are supposed to follow the rules and the intent of the law. They are both "big deals" in their own eyes. She, and she alone can skip meetings and get credit for them. She probably figures that if she intends to go, the folks who would have been at the meeting and could have possibly gotten a chance to see her would be so honored, she ought to get full credit.

LOL at the two of those characters!!! I'm fine with them being there with each other...I keep hearing strains of Bonnie Rait singing "Let's give them something to talk about" in the background, though.

[pax]

I kind of feel like a dork posting about this stuff...but these are public figures after all.

I heard somewhere that perhaps Dave was having affairs??

Who left whom? Who has custody of the kids?

[Dilbert-1985]

There are so many unanswered questions. Among the questions I wonder about are:

1. Did Dave give her an ultimatum about their marriage if she didn't go to rehab? Then, if that's true, why did he file for separation after she returned from rehab?

2. Are there custody issues with the kids?

3. One of her diary entries says she was "shipped off" to rehab. Does that mean that going to rehab was not her choice?

4. Little Tommy said in his blog that he went to see Laura somewhere locally in the days after she was absent from work, but before they knew she would be gone to rehab? Was she in a hospital, detox facility, or where?

5. Did she have to go to rehab as part of a deal on custody of the kids, otherwise risk losing custody?

6. Do the kids live with her now? Is she living in the Cain family home, or somewhere else?

7. Charlie fell down at school on March 6th, which was her last day on the air. Did that incident have anything to do with her going to rehab; was she high or drunk when school called that her son was injured?

8. What is her goal now? Naturally she wants to be clean and sober, but what about the family issues? Is there definitely going to be a divorce, or is the legal separation leaving the door open to reconciliation, IF she keeps herself clean?

These are just some questions I wonder about. I hope she is able to turn her life around. She apparently has serious family issues, though, in addition to the drug and alcohol problems.

[yourmama]

doesn't Tommy always have to "resue" women? in Laura he will have job security for sure, as she will always need help and need someone to take care of her. Plus he is the president of her fan club!

[yourmama]

sorry, I meant "rescue"

[pax]

I don't dislike either of them; I'm just curious (nosy) as to the whole Laura story. She appeared to have it "together." It makes me want to know more about all of the cast of the show. There must be someone out there who knows details.

[Dilbert-1985]

Gee, from the sound of things, she hasn't been taking this as seriously as she should. It's nice for Tommy to be a good friend and drag her to these meetings, but if he has to drag her somewhere, is she really taking this as seriously as she should? Rehab was hard, she said. At least the rehab in Oregon sounded tough to go through. But the rehab in Newport Beach was easier she said. I hope she didn't think of that as being on vacation.


And then you wonder if she is liking the attention of being a celebrity in these meetings. That could explain why they go to a different one each time. Because each time a new group can be impressed that local celebrities like Laura and Little Tommy are there. That wouldn't happen day after day if they went to the same group meeting each day.

It's funny that Tommy can't believe what people might think about his relationship with Laura. I hope he's a good friend to her but they are both unattached adults, so what does he expect.

[Wabbitsd]

yourmama...lol. I don't know if you should apologize...reuse? re-sue? both are kinda interesting words in Tommy's wierd world of wonder.

[Dilbert-1985]

I wonder what will happen if or when Little Tommy finds another love interest and doesn't have enough time for Laura to drag her up mountains to climb and drag her to AA meetings?

And Tommy has to spend time with his own kids too. He's been a good friend to Laura as far as we know, but the time will come when he won't have as much free time for her. It's got to be tough on her, too, with her marriage apparently falling apart and all the child care issues that will raise.

And Laura is concerned about her weight gain in rehab? Well, would you rather be a size 10 as she said she is now, and also be clean and sober, or be a skinny minnie size 4 but have substance abuse problems? What's more important?

[listener13]

I don't dislike either of them; I'm just curious (nosy) as to the whole Laura story. She appeared to have it "together." It makes me want to know more about all of the cast of the show. There must be someone out there who knows details.

You must be talking about another Laura - this woman never had it together. She was (and still is) a freaking mess.

[pax]

True, I don't know Laura or her life. From the bits I heard on the radio she was happily married, had two healthy kids that she appeared to adore, and had a nice job, and a nice home. Obviously, I got it wrong!!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I have been reading all your posts for weeks but because of a glitch in signing up (and activating), I haven't been able to join in!

I've been listening to J&J for years and just recently learned about all the drama behind the show (mostly thanks to you guys!) I really appreciate the info that you share here and hope that I can maybe add to the discussion from time to time. Be nice to me - I'm a newbie to all this forum stuff :wavey2:

Hi, I'm OneKidOneDogMom, and I'm addicted to the J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread:woohoo:

Oh...and....

LLATTRBM (Laura Laughing All The Time Really Bugs Me)

[surfing_texan]

Hey, just like OneKidOneDogMom, I've been reading these posts for quite some time now, but couldn't participate because of the "glitch"..so this post might seem random and all over the place because it is a combination of things I've been wanting to say on here for weeks!

1. LBMSBIWTP (Laura bugs me so bad I want to puke)
2. My husband and I met DaveCain once, and he seemed like a genuine, and nice guy. While I don't ever think cheating is ok, I have to say I wouldn't be surprised, because it seems as though Laura checked out of their marriage a long time ago.
3. I don't feel sorry for Laura. She doesn't have a high stress job, they only lived pay check to pay check because she was spending it all on booze, drugs, lotto tickets, clothes, blah, blah, blah..the list goes on. So for me to feel any kind of sympathy for her is virtually impossible, life is often times what you make it. The only people I feel sorry for are Evan, Charlie, and Dave.
4. In my line of work, I've dealt with many recovering addicts, and I would be highly surprised if Laura didn't relapse...she is far, far from having the right mind set that is needed to truly kick her addictions.
5. Is anybody else wondering about Chip's parents? My husband and I would never allow any of our children to be going places with somebody so fresh out of rehab. Seems strange to me...

All of you that post regularly are far more entertaining than the show...clear channel should start paying you guys!

[pax]

Has anyone else heard that Dave cheated? To the previous poster, how do you know Laura checked out of the marriage a long time ago? Also, I totally agree that some of the regular posters crack me up!!

Did anyone else find this site by Googling "davecain san diego?"

[Ritchie]

Has anyone else heard that Dave cheated?

I think this is just rumor at this point.

Most of the time when marriages break up, the husband is assumed to be the one cheating. I wouldn't put it past Laura at this point though.

My opinion is that Dave just got tired of it all. He quit his job to be there for his kids because she wasn't able to take care of them.

Also it seems that Dave is the one taking care of the kids. It sounds like Laura doesn't get to see them every day from what she has written.

[User_Name]

Sadly I don't think this is the first time she's gone to rehab. My theory is that her husband didn't think the posh relaxed Newport Beach center was going to change her addictions.

I do hope that for the sake of those kids she does change and stays on the clean and sober path.

[Alpinemaps]

Hi all...I, too, fall into the 'couldn't post because of the glitch' (I guess...just finally signed up yesterday, and today I can post).

Long time lurker of this thread, first time poster...

I haven't had the chance to hear Laura on the air yet. Every time I tune it, it's either a commercial (as happened to me last week), or she isn't on the air (is she on the air this week? Maybe I'm shutting off the radio before she comes on the air?). I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Yesterday, I listened to Jeff & Jer talk about the need to install camera all around cities. That it wouldn't really be like Big Brother. Then, 30 seconds later, they said 'I see the phone lines lighting up, which means you guys disagree with us - we don't have the energy to debate you, so we're moving onto another topic'

And that's the problem. Jeff & Jer are catering to the masses that want things sanitized. People that want things to be okay. That's why we're getting the filtered email messages on the website, telling us how strong Laura and Tommy are. That's why we're only hearing part of the story about Laura. This is the same group that wants to hear all things American Idol, all the time. This is the same group that wants to hear about Hollywood types, 24/7. The same types that need things staged, so they can have their perfect little world.

I guess I left the target audience years ago, but just couldn't admit it.

My parents have belonged to 12-step programs for 25+ years. My mother has been a Jeff & Jer listener for years. I asked her this weekend, what she thought about Laura. She just shook her head, and said she was disappointed, and that she's setting herself up to fail.

One of the 12 Traditions of AA, is "Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films." My mother quoted that to me. Laura certainly isn't practicing that tradition.

I know that, deep down, none of us want anything bad to happen to anyone. I wish Laura all the strength she needs. But, she's going about it all the wrong way. I'm disappointed with the show, and I'm disappointed with the station, for taking this 'star' treatment with Laura. Unfortunately, I can understand why they did it - the demographics they are after love Laura, and she's a hero to that demo.

For the rest of us - we're better off tuning into our iPods, our MP3 players, or the many other better morning shows that are out there in San Diego.

[LisaP]

I think this is just rumor at this point.

Most of the time when marriages break up, the husband is assumed to be the one cheating. I wouldn't put it past Laura at this point though.

My opinion is that Dave just got tired of it all. He quit his job to be there for his kids because she wasn't able to take care of them.

Also it seems that Dave is the one taking care of the kids. It sounds like Laura doesn't get to see them every day from what she has written.

Ritchie -

I agree with you 100%. The only other person taking care of the kids [besides davecain] was their "nanny". I would bet money that he quit his job [which Laura referred to his "dream" job, for his kids]. He made the sacrifice.

As much as Laura "painted the picture of the perfect family", it was nothing more than a "painting".

I do know of one mom sacrificing being with her child due to the military, but can guarantee you, if she were in the same town [heck, the same state or county] she would be with her kids, especiallly after 100 days away.

I have been too busy to look back, but on Tommy giving Laura her '90 day pin', am I doing the math wrong? She was in rehab for 100 days, and has been out for 12 days. Why is he now getting a 90 day pin?

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I agree with those that have posted about the e-mails on the website being all pro-Laura/Tommy. Did anyone else notice that http://www.sdradio.net deleted the three comments that were originally on their post about Laura coming back to the show? http://sdradio.net/2007/06/26/welcome-back-laura-cain/

I was one of three people that commented about how sugar-coated and sanitized Laura's return was...the comments lasted on the website for about 24 hours before they were pulled. I, too, wonder if Dave Cain or Star threatened legal action if the comments stayed online...???

I've talked to a lot of people about the whole fiasco and most are really disappointed in the show for NOT laying it all on the table. Sure, Laura is entitled to her privacy - but if she didn't want to air her "dirty laundry", she should have quietly resigned and concentrated on her family and her recovery.

I found this thread by Googling "Laura Cain" - and spent hours and hours going back reading all that has transpired. I had *NO* clue how staged and fake the show really is....

Also, I find it really interesting that Laura is just now getting her 90 day token. I cannot believe that someone that has worked "so hard" for her sobriety wasn't counting the hours until she hit that milestone! And I also agree with the poster that surmised that Laura probably relapsed at some point in her recovery - hence the delayed award of her 90 day token.

Oooh, I have so much that I've wanted to comment on over the last few weeks...but I'll end by saying that I'm glad I found this place (and that others did, too!) Cheers!:cheers:

[mel41099]

I've been a lurker here for the past month or so and have found all of you to be hysterical...I had no idea how staged everything is and have so enjoyed reading the threads all the way back and allthe good gossip you guys have!!!!

Laura has bugged me for years, now so even more. She thinks she's so cool b/c she's been to rehab, and throws around rehab buzz words mockingly. Now not only does she work 4 hours a day but she doesn't even take care of her kids anymore, and can't even make it to meetings??? She obviously isn't taking this seriously and is making a joke out of all of it. Calling her patio check in a "pain in the ass"? and how she's going to drive up to see her "rehab homies"? And telling Tommy "thank you so much for getting my sober butt to all those meetings. I really appreciate the push"
You need a freakin' push? C'mon....

Why does Chip go everywhere with them????

On the showgram Laura will say something about rehab and then 10 minutes later Jeff is making jokes about Jerry's "meditation room" saying it has black lights and exhaust fans, and Jerry is saying he's starting the 4th of July at 9am...what the hell kind of mixed message is that???

The show is like a train wreck...I can't stop listening

Off the Laura topic for a minute - I wonder if Jerry is a tyrant and a total jerk...he has a huge power trip and doesn't sound like he'd be fun to work for.
And what was up with that totally lame call this morning from the girl who wanted to uninvite her friend as a bridesmaid...totally staged and she kept mixing up her story. Too funny...or not.

[Jammie J.]

Did anyone hear when Jerry was playing that jazz music this morning (part of his favorite things), he then asked the theoretical question if the artist were playing in a local locale would someone accompany him. Everyone said "no" except Delana, she said she'd go, which I thought was sweet. In turn, someone asked Delana why she'd go and Laura butted in (before Delana could reply) and said Delana had said yes because she was a "butt kisser". Delana then did say it was because she liked that kind of music, but I thought, "Hmmm, a little jealousy there, Laura??"

I guess it was ironic to me, because most companies require their employees to be drug free -- that whole "drug free work environment" thing. With random tests and all. Guess that passed clear channel by?

You know, Laura used to serve a purpose on the show (kind of) with traffic and weather and miscellaneous stuff like that. Since that's been removed from her job duties, perhaps the only thing left is to "laugh manically and appear happy"? Thus explaining the annoying laughing?

And, holy hell, I had no idea rehab centers were so expensive? At $25k-ish per center that she went to? That's a ton of money.

[Longtimelistenr]

Hi all. A friend directed me to this website and I wanted to say a few things.
You guys sound like a bunch of "haters"..I just don't understand why you care so much about people you don't seem to like! If I were y'all I would just change the station and be a little happier since Jeff&Jer and all the showgram members seem to bring out soooo much negativity in you all!

Personally I like the showgram and everyone in it. Whatever is going on in their personal lives...WHO CARES?! ITs cool if they talk about personal things, but I don't feel like I am "owed" any explanations about anything.

As for the show being "staged"...hate to break it to you all but much like the news, television, radio, etc....it is ENTERTAINMENT. I can't think of anything that is 100% real and unstaged. Everything is regulated to an extent, wake up

[Daisy CA]

I'm a lurker, too, and I'm addicted to this thread! Due to the same "glitch", this is the first time I've been able to post. Some thoughts on ...
...Laura - my hypothesis is that this addiction to "nose candy" has been going on for quite some time. I remember one of the "11 listeners" calling in asking Laura to please blow her nose, and Laura blamed it on a cold or allergy, and that was at least 3 or 4 years ago. Dave probably gave her the ultimatum many times and Laura freaked and begged for another chance. Remember all the great things he did for her? Quitting his pilot job, taking the family on a surprise trip to Hawaii, etc. I'm no advocate for extramarital relations, but I'm sure it must have rough for him being married to an addict and feeling like she is not the person he married. It sounds like everything came to a boil when Charlie hit the flagpole...she may have OD'd from the stress of that and the affair thing and was forced into rehab to save herself and her job.

...Tommy - I always thought I was a good judge of character, and thought Tommy was a egotistical womanizing pig. After reading the Jeff & Jer email blogs, I started to doubt my opinion. Like Young American said, it's all about "Tommy, you're such a great friend...son...dad...dieter"...rah, rah, rah! Thank goodness I found this site! He loves to portray himself as this "sensitive guy" who loves his family and is a supportive friend so he can help the ratings and attract more women. Too bad more people don't see through his act...

...the Showgram - I can only listen to a few minutes a day before I have to move on to something else. It seems staged and not at all funny. I understand they are aiming their "family-values" and touchy-feeling stuff towards their "soccer mom" demographic, but it's nauseating, and I AM their demographic!

Finally, we need to invite "Insight by Jake" and "Carl" to this thread!!!

http://sdradio.net/2007/04/16/laura-cain-out-for-one-more-month/

[WhoMe]

I am another that has been lurking and caught in the "glitch".

My husband has been clean and sober for 22 years 6 mos 24 days. You get the 90 day token on day 90 because it's THAT important. Your friends do not drag you to meetings, you go because they are THAT important. He went to a meeting every day for the first two years he was sober. He doesn't go now...but he doesn't drink or use and there were never any excuses.

Laura is doing what she has to do to LOOK like she's with the program. She's been out of rehab 12 days and has missed meetings 3 days. If Tommy wasn't "dragging" her I'll bet that number missed would be higher. He can't do it for her...and him trying doesn't make him a great friend...it means he NEEDS AlAnon to understand the disease.

I could very much echo what so many of you have said...but as it's my first post, and I'm not sure I'm doing it correctly...let me just say Hello and LBMBT (Laura bugs me big time).

[OneKidOneDogMom]

"Finally, we need to invite "Insight by Jake" and "Carl" to this thread!!!"

I totally agree with this, Daisy CA - anyone that hasn't taken the time to read the comments on the sdradio.net site should go over and take the 10 minutes...lots of good info and insight there!

I'm so glad there are so many other newbies out there that also got caught up in the activation glitch - I was so frustrated that I could only read here and not comment!

[eyeseeyou]

Longtime lurker...finally registered.
The showgram is not the same anymore. They preach about opening up there lives with us "there family" but are holding back so much now that Laura is back. She sounds different...maybe I was just used to her candy nose voice. Jerry sounds pissed, I thought it was me at first...but reading your posts, you picked up on it too. "Don't do anything bad"...
Tommy...I think he has a genuine part of him that wants to HELP Laura. I think he is more so thinking about "saving-the show" part of helping Laura...not anything romantic. He's the producer ...he fixes things. I feel that's why he is going overboard about talking about "positive" Laura in his blogs. He know we read them, he knows how bad EVERYTHING looks from the outside. He wants to save his job, and if that means making Laura go to those meetings, he will do it.
When Laura was gone...Delana bugged me. Not anymore...Laura does. It REALLY pissed me off her blog about the cute outfit she put together before she was shipped off. First of all I hated all of her outfits, and second of all she hasn't come to the point where she thinks she had a problem. She sounds bitter that she was caught like a little kid & punished. I remember when her and Tommy had the purse bet. She said she HATED being told what to do, even about showing up to work on time. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LAURA...its YOUR job!!!She had to go to rehab to try to save her marriage, her job...NOT her life in her eyes.

[longtimereader]

Hi everyone! I've been a lurker on this site for a LONG time. I too was held up by the "glitch." You guys are truly much more entertaining than the entire Jeff & Jer Showgram! I'm so glad I can post now!

I started listening to J&J when I was in junior high - this year I turn 30. I was a big J&J fan up until Star 100.7 turned into Jack. That's when it all went downhill. I kept listening to J&J for a while hoping that they would start doing the same funny and entertaining show that I used to like so much. As we ALL know, that never happened. Shortly after the switch to Jack I found this thread and was happy to find so many people who felt the exact same way!

I agree - "Carl" and "Insight by Jake" need to make their way to this thread. "Insight by Jake"s post on SDRadio, which BecinCA posted here, was hysterical!

[listener13]

Hi all. A friend directed me to this website and I wanted to say a few things.
You guys sound like a bunch of "haters"..I just don't understand why you care so much about people you don't seem to like! If I were y'all I would just change the station and be a little happier since Jeff&Jer and all the showgram members seem to bring out soooo much negativity in you all!

Personally I like the showgram and everyone in it. Whatever is going on in their personal lives...WHO CARES?! ITs cool if they talk about personal things, but I don't feel like I am "owed" any explanations about anything.

As for the show being "staged"...hate to break it to you all but much like the news, television, radio, etc....it is ENTERTAINMENT. I can't think of anything that is 100% real and unstaged. Everything is regulated to an extent, wake up

Hi New Reader!

[surfing_texan]

Welcome back New Reader! (Should we start calling her "New Name"?)

Anyways..somebody asked how I know she checked out of the marriage. I don't know that as fact, I'm just saying...a person who cares more about drinking, doing drugs, shopping, hair extentions, and all the other superficial things Laura focused on is not so into their marriage. Plus all her comments about "poor DaveCain had to work all day and then take care of the kids because I was just SO DANG TIRED", or "Poor DaveCain hasn't gotten any in so long because I've been SO DANG TIRED", etc. She hasn't been there for him, or for her kids. I don't assume that he was the 1 to cheat. I actually believe that women cheat more often than men (and I am a woman myself, no I have never cheated). I was just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Dave had moved on with an almost "new life" a long time ago, as he and the kids were basically living life without her. She may have been around physically, but definitely not mentally.

[pax]

EyeSeeYou wrote, "Jerry sounds pissed, I thought it was me at first...but reading your posts, you picked up on it too. "Don't do anything bad"..."

Has anyone else picked up on Jerry's anger? I get a feeling is "over" the daily grind at this point in his game.

[10snancy]

Hi all. A friend directed me to this website and I wanted to say a few things.
You guys sound like a bunch of "haters"..I just don't understand why you care so much about people you don't seem to like! If I were y'all I would just change the station and be a little happier since Jeff&Jer and all the showgram members seem to bring out soooo much negativity in you all!

Personally I like the showgram and everyone in it. Whatever is going on in their personal lives...WHO CARES?! ITs cool if they talk about personal things, but I don't feel like I am "owed" any explanations about anything.

As for the show being "staged"...hate to break it to you all but much like the news, television, radio, etc....it is ENTERTAINMENT. I can't think of anything that is 100% real and unstaged. Everything is regulated to an extent, wake up


Hey, I agree with most of what Longtimelistenr had to say and I'm definitely not New Reader (whoever that is). I never listen to the show, but I am a Star listener and came upon this thread by accident. I hear the clips during the day from the J & J show, and it has no appeal to me so I don't turn it on. I find reading this thread interesting, but also wonder why all of you continue to listen to the show when you don't seem to like it. Does anyone listen to the Rick and Jen show? I think Rick is really funny and I like that they play more music than what I've been told is played on the showgram. I'd also like to hear more positive comments about the station.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I'd also like to hear more positive comments about the station.

If you want positive stuff about the show, just read the E-mail blog and Tommy's blog on the Star website. Of course, everything you read there is censored by the Star staff (Tommy) and is not a bit real-life, but.....

I think those of us that comment here are wishing for the "old" J&J show to come back...it's gone downhill the past couple of years and now with all the rehab stuff, I think it's even worse.

When they are good (and original), they are very good. When they're mediocre and copycat, they're just plain bad. I just keep hoping that something will click again and they will get better!

[pax]

Frankly, I enjoy picking these guys apart. Why? Well, they have made a career out of inviting us into their lives. I say - do it authentically or don't do it at all. Don't hold back the bad stuff when it suits you. So I come here to read the "negative" (i.e. part of real life) stuff the Showgram has going on since they don't talk about it on air. I don't listen the show very much anyway. And I'm a stay at home mom at the moment and this board is, quite simply, entertainment. :)

[Trixie]

Sign me up! I will have to do my research by reviewing the previous months and years of posts. I'm new to the Drama Club, but a San Diego Native for >40 years.

I feel that provides me with more authentic real life experience than the on-air crew of J&J combined. (Let's see, they 'experience' San Diego about 4 hours a day (minus commercials), 5 days a week (minus holidays), 20 days a month (minus vacations), 12 months a year (give or take some sick days and Best Of Shows).

This thread is the best thing since Dr. Demento. Humor, honesty, humble truths. For those of you brave enough to post, I applaud you. Probably for every one poster, there are 11 people who lurk but don't post. I'm happy to be one of the posters.

Trixie - Poster Child of the J&J MSDCT

[Longtimelistenr]

OK, while I do disagree with the "attitudes" of some people here, I will say this: I have listened to Jeff and Jer since I was in elementary school. I am now 26 years old (hence the name "longtimelistenr") and I agree that the show really isn't the same. I maybe listen an hour a week now, if that. Maybe I am just jaded, or maybe the showgram members are jaded...but I just remember the show being a lot funnier, a lot more "involved." But maybe I just don't listen enough. I miss the days when they would do the silliest things...where is
Randy? Is it just me or is he missing from the showgram. Oh well, have a good 4th everyone!

[caligirl30]

Did I miss a step? Has it been discussed yet exactly HOW rehab was paid for? My theory: Tommy is soooo involved and proud of Laura, because he paid for it....???

[Scrapper]

The show is definately lame since leaving 100.7 and we like to complain about it, it's what we do best! LOL.

I wish Laura would go away for good, but it doesn't look like this happening anytime soon.

If she was really "shipped" off - ala, "ordered" to go to rehab, I'd assume it was an ultimatum from davecain, unless, remember when they share "secrets" and one person has been arrested? I wonder if it was her.

And a Jerry thing that is trivial, but I need to vent about it,here goes - Remember when he posted the video of "his" cat flushing the toilet within the last 6 months or so? I ran across that same video clip later on another you tube type site, and noticed it was originally posted way before Jerry posted it on the 94 website. I think he even dubbed his own voice on it, and presented it as his own. MEGA LAMER! Time to retire dude - give iet up, it ain't funny anymore!!

[Scrapper]

Did I miss a step? Has it been discussed yet exactly HOW rehab was paid for? My theory: Tommy is soooo involved and proud of Laura, because he paid for it....???

I bet you Bob Bollinger approved it. I wish he'd adopt me!

[surfing_texan]

My assumption was that she was somehow "sentenced" by the state/county and was initially going to attend a local center, and when Tommy went to see her, he arranged/paid for the private, and more "upscale" facilities. On a slightly different subject, I think it was completely irresponsible of him to provide "contriband" for the other people at the local center Laura was in. There is a reason they are not allowed to have candy, burritos, soda, and whatever else he snuck in. Obviously Tommy hasn't learned how serious addiction and the recovery process is from his Brothers as he claims he has.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

They have a teaser up for Tommy's new blog entry, but it's not posted yet...

When it does post today, can someone please copy and paste the pertinent parts? (My work surf-blocks the blog pages on the Star website)

I'm dying to know why Tommy has backed off on attending meetings with Laura - maybe he got a clue that he can't "drag" her through recovery?

[Ritchie]

Wow, there are a lot of new posts from new users here.

Looks like someone from the show figured out how to register multiple accounts. Someone like New Reader maybe.

[momofthree]

Here's Tommy's reasons for not going to the meetings w/ Laura.

"One more NON weight thing. As you know, I’ve been in to those meetings I’ve been going to with Laura. I love going as you could read for yourself, but after I got this one email the other day, I realized I needed to step back a tiny bit from the meetings, because I was making it about ME. My excitement about the meetings was making Laura’s want and need to go secondary to my wanting to go, which I didn’t see happening. It’s true. I was looking on line for the next meeting to go to all the time and I forgot about that I needed to just be there with her IF AND WHEN she wanted me to. So, hopefully she’ll ask me to go, because I do really like going but I needed to step back a bit. Did that make sense?"

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Wow, there are a lot of new posts from new users here.

Looks like someone from the show figured out how to register multiple accounts. Someone like New Reader maybe.

Well, I'm not New Reader :) I have been trying to post for weeks, but there was a screw-up on the registration process (as several others have noted, too).

Thanks, MomofThree, for posting that part of Tommy's blog. I figured someone had finally clued him in to the fact that Laura needs to want to go to the meeting of her own free will, not be "dragged" there by someone else.

On a side note, I cannot stand all the laughing and repeating that goes on on the show these days - it takes them 20 minutes to get through a 5 minute bit because Randy and Laura can't stop laughing and both Jeff and Jer feel the need to keep repeating the set-up....argh!

[Smitty]

Did I miss a step? Has it been discussed yet exactly HOW rehab was paid for? My theory: Tommy is soooo involved and proud of Laura, because he paid for it....???

25k for a deluxe rehab facility for someone who is now single and available for Tommy to do with as he pleases is nothing. Anyone remember the 50k Lincoln Navigator he bought the car wash girl for putting up with him and continuing to sleep with him?

[newgal]

:) First of all I am NOT newreader!! I have been reading this blog for a couple months now and I LOVE IT!! I listen to the show but more because I have some sick obsession, they definitely are not what they used to be. Randy is an idiot who needs to be a man (he is in his 40's after all) and move out of his parents house and Jer is a total perv. I can't believe that he gets away with most of the things that come out of his mouth. Especially since it's supposed to be a "family show", well maybe for some sick family that would be acceptable! I also listen so that I can follow this blog and know what is going on so it all makes more sense. I too think that they should give us what they promised and tell us the whole story about Laura being in rehab. Again - I have some sort of sick obsession with all of this. Thanks for the entertainment!! (oh, and I hope I am doing this right as this is my first time posting - same glitch as everyone else!!) :wavey2:

[YoungAmerican]

Wow, it took me a little while to catch up on the last couple of days of postings. Welcome to all the new posters, you all pretty much sound like you will fit right in here. I only tuned in to the show for about 10 min. this morning and got really sick and tired of hearing them keep saying how they couldn't believe they were at work today. They complain so much about not having had a vacation in a few weeks and about having to work right after a middle of the week holiday etc.... they try to make a joke of it but it really turns alot of people off how they always come off sounding like they are soooo much better than the rest of us working stiffs. They don't appreciate getting a day off, just resent that the station didn't let them have off the rest of the week. :disa:

[Wabbitsd]

Maybe the odd-folk-out are just buddies of NewReader, since she kinda lacked much of a group that agreed with her. But it does seem as though some other new people have signed on, and welcome to them. New Reader and buds, come on. Get lost.

As we found out, if the New Reader crew get cranky, we can put them on "ignore..."

Someone asked why Chip is hanging with post-rehab Laura...did you see where Chip went with Laura's sister (or was it her Mom or both, I don't remember) to visit her WHILE she was in rehab.

It floors me that someone would allow their child to go like that...sure, they probably went up to Disneyland, or Magic Mountain after the visit with the "Big Deal of San Diego..." but honestly.

My theory is that Laura was busted for driving under the influence...remember that bit where she had to kind of mysteriously own up to being arrested? I think that was the initial mandatory rehab...then Tommy came and saved the day--he probably has had several wealthy connections go through a similar route-around the sentence thing.

I honestly like the rest of the folks on the show. Tommy and Laura need to go...or let them stay, but shut off their doggone mikes. I really liked Delana as an addition to the show. She's the kind of PROFESSIONAL they need. These two other social loser-dropouts should pack up and move on.

[Dilbert-1985]

I noticed this morning that Laura said that Dave took the kids to the fair yesterday, while she went off with her pals from rehab to do things. I think that's the first time she has mentioned Dave at all since she's been back.

Do we know if Laura is living in the Cain family house? Is Dave living somewhere else, or is Laura living somewhere else since they have the legal separation?

I thought it sounded odd that she casually mentioned Dave took the kids somewhere as if they all live together as one happy family. She hasn't said anything about her and Dave, but those of us "in the know" on this site know that Dave filed for legal separation, and Little Tommy's blog has said that if certain subjects haven't been discussed, that we can all make an educated guess as to what's going on.

And do we know how much rehab cost, and who paid for it? Does health insurance pay for rehab treatment?

Does anyone know more about the events that sent Laura to rehab?

[SadSadSad]

Been a lurker for 2 years now. Actually found this site after Little Tommy accused me of reading the "negative threads" out there after I sent him an email telling him it would probably be best he doesn't talk about his personal life because it makes him sound like an ass. He was so defensive and angry my curiosity was peaked and I googled until I found you guys. I have been a listener since the Y95 days when it used to be all fun and games. When they used to do hysterical bits like rigging the talking Christmas tree in Target and insulting customers as they came in. The showgram has been a Clusterf@#* for quite a few years now. Hence my name, SadSadSad. Tommy is nothing but a PIG when it comes to women. He lies so much he doesn't know himself what the truth is anymore. And Laura is just a mess who obviously likes partying more than her children. If the two had one brain cell they would realize they should stop saying and writing stuff about their personal lives because they are just confirming they are the self absorbed vapid souls we all think they are.

:bandit:

[Dilbert-1985]

Laura's diary from this morning states that she and Davecain are not together "right now". So she's acknowledging the separation, but could be that they are not headed for divorce but could still work it all out. I hope they can for the kids sake. She said it's been hard to write the diary because she had to dance around the fact that she and Dave aren't together. So maybe we'll learn more now that this fact is out in the open.

[MissThany]

I think those of us that comment here are wishing for the "old" J&J show to come back...it's gone downhill the past couple of years and now with all the rehab stuff, I think it's even worse.

When they are good (and original), they are very good. When they're mediocre and copycat, they're just plain bad. I just keep hoping that something will click again and they will get better!

Yes, yes, yes. What you said.
I miss the old-funny-Jeff and Jer.
At least I can come here and have a laugh.

[SDchick]

Hi Everyone, I'm a first time poster, long time lurker here... I've REALLY enjoyed reading everyone's thoughts and ideas. I don't really have anything insightful to add, I just wanted to intro myself...

I find I go here and to tommy's stupid blogs more than I listen to their showgram nowadays! They've gone SO downhill since Laura's return, it seems. What finally broke the back for me was when they used 3 DAYS of air time to do Jerry's stupid joke-experiment. And each time they did it, they prepped it for 3 minutes, went to commericals, then came back and prepped it again for us. Give me a break!

I'm glad to be here. :)

[Carol]

Long time lurker, first time poster and I too got caught in the glitch when I tried to post my little tid bit.



Welcome back New Reader! (Should we start calling her "New Name"?)

Anyways..somebody asked how I know she checked out of the marriage. I don't know that as fact, I'm just saying...a person who cares more about drinking, doing drugs, shopping, hair extentions, and all the other superficial things Laura focused on is not so into their marriage.

I have a friend who knows that I frequent this website. She was in the clear channel building in the past 12 days, and over heard a group of other morning show DJ's talking about the situation with Laura and her husband. My friend told me that Dave surprised Laura with the seperation at either the end of her rehab stint, or RIGHT when she got back home. I forget what she told me :sad: sorry.

I also wanted to add, that I LOOOOVVEEEDD this old diary entry of Laura's from Feb 21st, 2007.

"I may be a shopping addict. I was thinking about it as I browsed through the Travertini and James Jeans section at Bloomies yesterday. Before I arrived at Bloomies, I was kinda stressed out, kinda aggro, kinda pissy. The minute I got into the store and started looking around at stuff, my heart rate slowed down and I felt way more calm. Isn't that why we drink or take drugs? Oh boy. The good news is that I had a gift card in my wallet for a hundred bucks so I didn't spend a stupid amount of money. The other positive news is that I recognize my potential problem"

Yes, its a good thing she recognized her potential shopping problem....:spock:

I guess the main thing is she is trying to get control of herself
now, and hopefully be the best mother she can be. Children deserve the best, so hopefully she can get her life together.

[Trixie]

I remember the Y-95 days and the 100.7 FM days, and now it is just another set of digits on the radio (or website).
I usually listen in the car during the morning drive. I recently, since 2007, started listening to the live-streaming during my morning work, when I'm at my desk. Even more recent, I've been reading Tommy's Blogs, Laura's Diary's (had to start back in January of this year to get current, and am currently reading the archived from a year ago). And most recently, I found this website GotApex.
I have no idea about anything GotApex does, but after lurking about 2 weeks, I signed up!
So, for my equation of everything J&J, it is sort of like this:
Radio Program On-Air + Tommy's Blogs + Laura's Diary = 75% of the truth.
When you add in this GotApex J&J Drama Club Thread you get the total of 100% truth.
I come here to get the blanks filled in, or something like that. I love a good mystery, hence my user name Trixie. From the Trixie Beldon mystery books.
Trixie, poster child of the J&J Drama Club

[Dilbert-1985]

Of course, they don't have to reveal everything on the air, but with Laura going public with her addictions, I hope now that she will go all the way with it and talk about her and Dave. She thanked so many people for their support while she was in rehab, but no mention of Dave at all. Maybe Dave wasn't supportive, and if so, is there a reason why?

Now she is admitting that she and Dave are not together, but is not telling us reasons. If she's going to go all the way with being public and her recovery, she should talk about what led to her going to rehab. She stated that she was "shipped off" to rehab, which makes it sound like it wasn't her choice. Did Dave give her an ultimatum about her addictions? Was she bleeding the family dry, financially, due to her addictions and careless spending?

I would love to know how she ended up in rehab, who made the decision, and whether she sees the consequences of addictions. And I would love to know if her problems played a role in their marital problems. It's hard to believe they had no effect, but then again you never know what happens privately with 2 people.

[longcommute]

Yes I'm new here, no I'm not New Reader (who I agree is probably Little Tommy) or Longtimelistenr. I've been lurking since January or so and find this thread very entertaining! I listen to J&J sporadically during my commute when my other stations are doing ads...have been in SD now for about 8 years. Started reading Tommy's blog when he began it mainly out of curiosity--fascinating studies in psychopathology!!!

I found it quite interesting that Jer didn't mention Laura ONCE (at least the parts I heard) the entire time she was gone. And the choice of Coldplay's Fix You to welcome her back was just awful. I know Laura/Charlie love that song, but reminding her to "get a fix" or that she needs other people to "fix" her (rather than facing her issues herself) seems like really bad taste.

Anyone else listening today when Delayna was trying to do the news and Jeff/Tommy totally cut her off twice to talk about the Pier 1 outlet closing, and then wouldn't let her finish the news segment at all? Seemed interesting that they cut her off when she was trying to do the Al Gore III story about his arrest related to speeding and drugs. Coincidence? Let the girl do her job and sorry if the news hits a little too close to home!

And TG Tommy has figured out that he shouldn't be so involved in getting Laura to meetings. He has some serious guilt issues and it's too bad he's just figuring out some of his parenting problems now, when it's a little too late.

[YoungAmerican]

Jeff & Jer both talk over others all the time. It has upset me for years, someone (Laura or Delana, anyone) would be talking about the traffic, weather, some other news item and they just cut in and on top of it and alot of times the person never gets to finish the story. Very nerve wrecking! Just one more item to add to the ever growing list of reasons why they annoy the CRAP out of me. It will be a great great day in San Diego when they finally retire.

PS, anyone else find it kinda funny (strange) too that they keep playing that song "they tried to make me go to rehab" in the background all the time. How much of a joke are they making of this whole thing?

[sameome]

Anyone else listening today when Delayna was trying to do the news and Jeff/Tommy totally cut her off twice to talk about the Pier 1 outlet closing, and then wouldn't let her finish the news segment at all? Seemed interesting that they cut her off when she was trying to do the Al Gore III story about his arrest related to speeding and drugs. Coincidence? Let the girl do her job and sorry if the news hits a little too close to home!


I was listening during my short commute while Delayna was doing news that didn't make the news. I didn't notice how Jerr/Tommy cut her off, but sure it would be annoying. But what was more annoying to me was Laura said "What" about certain news during a span of 2 minutes. I think her voice is still pretty nasal.

[eyeseeyou]

Well at least laura FINALLY said something about Davecain...BTW...doesn't Laura have ANY girlfriends? It's always guys she's hanging out with, or at least talking about.
I miss the old J&J so much. I really want them (J&J) to step up and talk about how Laura's addiction has affected them on the air as well as off. They need to address it, because the anger comes across definitely in Jer's voice. I'd even take RANDY'S thoughts at this point.:dead:

[SadSadSad]

Can someone please tell me what if Tommy's son's Eddie is part of the show now? That would be the only reason I can think of that there are always notices and pictures about Eddie's skating on the webpage. Or maybe Eddie is the only skater in San Diego???

[eyeseeyou]

I agree with SadSadSad....next it will be Eddie cartin' Laura off to meetings!!! Then Vanessa doing Chic Chat along with the outfit of the week.

[longtimereader]

Anyone know when Jeff and Jer's contract with Clear Channel and Star is up? It's none too soon...

[YoungAmerican]

Face it, they have an iron clad contract. They get the big bucks no matter how crappy their show is and how little effort they put into it. It's been mentioned many times before that at the end of this contract the Jer part of Jeff & Jer will probably be done and who knows what dysfunctional hybrid will be born out of what is left. Until the sponsers in this city and radio station executives get the message from the listeners that we want something new and fresh they will keep fighting to sign these pathetic losers. What is even sadder is how pathetic it shows the San Diego radio listeners to be to keep this group of a-holes rated #1 in the morning! If they only had a clue like we here all do! :disa: It makes me gag when I hear some of the people that call into the radio show fawning over Laura, Tommy or Jeff, crying, blubbering...... get a grip San Diego. If some fake radio personalities are your "best friends" you have some serious, serious problems.

[Wabbitsd]

and also, Laura's son Charlie, aka as "Son of Big Deal Laura Cain..." can do some bits on the show as well, giving her time to nap and nip (at the bottle).

You know who hasn't been here in a while? Boris. Come back, Boris!!!

[insightbyjake]

Nice thread you all have. May I join in?

Quick thoughts:

1. The anger read into many comments seems to match my own frustration with the fact that this is a "show" -- a pretend mix of fixed bits, borrowed ideas, repetitive brain candy that tries to sell itself as being original. Fake phone callers with contrived problems in order to generate "11 calls says it all," is NOT clever programming.

2. I can't get past the "I'm straight but act gay," confusion. (Not that there's anything wrong with that....)
I know Jerry goes to Home Depot -- but he wears cologne and listens to Barry Mannilow, AND hangs Broadway musical porgrams in picture frames!!! Jeff drives a pick-up that hauls a 40-foot trailer -- but listens to Amy Grant and Faith Hill and can name shoe makers!!
They BOTH hosted a purse party?!?! And Jerry wears a kerchief
that he apparently got from Joey Bishop. Hey Jerry, 1951 called -- they want their ascot back ASAP!

3. Most blatantly -- the show preaches "It's for the kids.." and "Family values..." but the collective behavior of the "stars" certainly shouts a different message. Let's see, if Laura's marriage fails that makes it a clean 5 failed out of 7 attempted marriages out of Jeff, Jer, Tommy and Laura.

Last thought for them -- Read Ralph Waldo Emerson. He has a quote that describes my angst:

"What you do speaks so loud, I cannot hear what you say."

Thanks for the time!!

[Trixie]

Welcome, InsightByJake.
Good points.
I hear J&J mention things about being 'woman doctors' ie: OB/Gyns, because they know so much?

[boris85]

and also, Laura's son Charlie, aka as "Son of Big Deal Laura Cain..." can do some bits on the show as well, giving her time to nap and nip (at the bottle).

You know who hasn't been here in a while? Boris. Come back, Boris!!!

Hello - I've been observing from the shadows. I've said all along that Laura was a drunk, coke-sniffing, poor excuse for a mother. Some skeptics called me a liar and asked for proof. I give you proof. Let me just say that it's not a coincidence that Laura moved near SDSU. She needed to be close to the "action." I agree that there is a definite link to Charlie's head injury, if it ever even happened. At first I thought she'd thought up a clever way to explain his odd look, but now I think it was something more. Dave - who has always seemed like a jerk - is either the scorned husband, demanding change, or a player in the mess. Maybe Laura is breaking away from him - maybe he has not been the best influence on her? Maybe she is having a secret affair with Chips? Has anyone seen Chips? Does he even exist? Is Chips her dealer? Is he her mule? Is there a tunnel under the Rancho de Cain that leads straight to SDSU fraternity row? Stay tuned...

[Wabbitsd]

LOL, Boris. "Some Skeptics," is that an old message board handle of "New Reader's?"

welcome, insightbyjake...saw your stuff on that other site, please stop in more often, too!

[BebeSD]

Seriously - I agree with the post above that said Jeff and Jer et al should discuss the impact of the whole rehab situation on their lives... that would be refreshing, inviting, and real. Enough with the staging, ego-feeding, and pretending to care so much about San Diegans.

And how many times are they going to do "5 things we love?" How long will they continue to replay/redo the same stuff over and over?

[Jer]

I've figured out the whole Charlie/Chips thing. Chips is an imaginary friend that Charlie's developed to cope with his unfit surroundings. That's the only explanation. Who allows their child to go on a field trip to a halfway house? Unbelieveable.

I've also figured out Boris' absense. Boris is none other than Davecain. Unfortunately, Dave's new bachelor pad didn’t have an internet connection until today, which is why he’s been away for so long.

The show just gets worse and worse. Now there's uncomfortable silence - dead air - just before they go to commercial. That never used to happen. I know, I know, it's been said don't listen. Well, each day there are fewer and fewer choices on the morning dial.

Oh, by the way Laura. The reason that you’ve been “cast” on so many local TV productions is for free publicity. In hopes that you would jabber about it mindlessly on the radio.

Is it me, or did any of you find it strange that Rita disappeared? Was she replaced? Was she uncomfortable seeing what was happening? I know she went to Hawaii, but not a lot of talk about who watched the kids during the 4 hours she worked and the 6 hours she spent on “me-time” each day.

Yes, I did hear the comment Laura made to Delayna. One of those things that ha, ha, she could just try to laugh (bray) it off, but you could tell that at some primal level Laura hates Delayna. Let's just hope that Junkyard Bob or Detroit Pete or another of her "rehab homeies" doesn't try to take out Delayna.

Come to think of it, could it have been Laura (with Charlie and Chips in the backseat) that crashed into the yogurt store Delayna was in?

That was a close call.....

[longtimereader]

Did anyone catch in Tommy's blog shortly after the return of BDOSD (Laura - Big Deal of San Diego) where he dragged her out of bed? Could Laura be living at Tommy's?

Hey, at least they can carpool to work together now, right? :spock:

BDOSD bugs me.

[Ritchie]

I thought it sounded odd that she casually mentioned Dave took the kids somewhere as if they all live together as one happy family. She hasn't said anything about her and Dave, but those of us "in the know" on this site know that Dave filed for legal separation, and Little Tommy's blog has said that if certain subjects haven't been discussed, that we can all make an educated guess as to what's going on.

Welcome new posters. If any of you are New Reader, well get lost. Actually I think all the new posters are not NR since they all say the show sucks. So welcome again all you smart people.

I think the reason she mentioned Dave is that she wanted to slow down some of the rumors by making it seem that they are still together. Those people that don't know about this board will think they are still a couple.

[boris85]

I've figured out the whole Charlie/Chips thing. Chips is an imaginary friend that Charlie's developed to cope with his unfit surroundings. That's the only explanation. Who allows their child to go on a field trip to a halfway house? Unbelieveable.

I've also figured out Boris' absense. Boris is none other than Davecain. Unfortunately, Dave's new bachelor pad didn’t have an internet connection until today, which is why he’s been away for so long.

The show just gets worse and worse. Now there's uncomfortable silence - dead air - just before they go to commercial. That never used to happen. I know, I know, it's been said don't listen. Well, each day there are fewer and fewer choices on the morning dial.

Oh, by the way Laura. The reason that you’ve been “cast” on so many local TV productions is for free publicity. In hopes that you would jabber about it mindlessly on the radio.

Is it me, or did any of you find it strange that Rita disappeared? Was she replaced? Was she uncomfortable seeing what was happening? I know she went to Hawaii, but not a lot of talk about who watched the kids during the 4 hours she worked and the 6 hours she spent on “me-time” each day.

Yes, I did hear the comment Laura made to Delayna. One of those things that ha, ha, she could just try to laugh (bray) it off, but you could tell that at some primal level Laura hates Delayna. Let's just hope that Junkyard Bob or Detroit Pete or another of her "rehab homeies" doesn't try to take out Delayna.

Come to think of it, could it have been Laura (with Charlie and Chips in the backseat) that crashed into the yogurt store Delayna was in?

That was a close call.....

No - not davecain - ouch! Although I am slightly intrigued by the notion of a size 10, "go large" Laura. I am a twisted soul...:disa: Maybe Rita was some poor woman she smuggled across the border - maybe Rita was really a slave, forced to smuggle drugs for Laura from her tiny Mexican village.... "No, please do not make me listen to anymore of your SleepTrain comercials, Senora Cain... Please do not have your wolf boy Carlito attack me... Please do not beat me with Jeff's old toupee.... I will hide more happy pills underneath my swaying chest and fail to wear deodorant so they do not search me..."

[momofthree]

Hello Everyone,

This is an interesting thread...glad I stumbled upon it! I do agree with everyone saying that since Laura has returned, the show seems, well, different...like they don't like each other anymore. I hardly Jer anymore. Has he checked out from the show, is he disgusted with the shenanigans of Laura and Tommy? Jeff seems like he is desperate to make the show work. Sad.

Also, why did Dave file for separation and not divorce? Is that the first step? Does this mean that he is leaving the door open for reconciliation?

Also, if Tommy does not want people questioning his "friendship" w/Laura, then why did he promote it last week like there could be something going on between them? He led us to believe they were an item with statements like "I will tell you my true feelings once Laura reads her letter", etc. Why couldn't he say he loved her like a friend before hand? Doesn't make sense. I guess he was trying to boost ratings by using the Laura+Tommy angle. He has no one to blame but himself.

Enough questions for now.

[Smitty]

Long time lurker, first time poster and I too got caught in the glitch when I tried to post my little tid bit.

I have a friend who knows that I frequent this website. She was in the clear channel building in the past 12 days, and over heard a group of other morning show DJ's talking about the situation with Laura and her husband. My friend told me that Dave surprised Laura with the seperation at either the end of her rehab stint, or RIGHT when she got back home. I forget what she told me :sad: sorry.


Dave filed for legal seperation on 6/21/07, which was just 1 day before Laura came back. He probably had the legal document in hand when she arrived back home. WELCOME BACK LAURA!

[Dilbert-1985]

I wonder if people from the Showgram read this message board. Would be quite an eye opener if they did.

I wish they would be more open about Laura and rehab and Dave. From the very beginning this has been a mystery. At first, they said she was out sick. Then they said she was taking care of family business. Then they said it was more important that she concentrate on being a mom, and that's why she was gone for 3 months.

Then she comes back but the big mystery is what about her family situation in all of this. She's now admitted she and Dave have split, at least for now. But it's not clear if she's living with her kids or what her family situation is.

Plus, what exactly happened on March 6th to send her to rehab in the first place? Was it her choice or did she go for some other reason? Was it planned ahead of time, and if so, why didn't she say something on the air that day, to the effect that she was taking some time off?

[Transplant]

Hi all...I'm another long time lurker and got caught up in the glitch once I signed up and it took almost 2 weeks to be able to post,,,,I was dying to post because I found the 6/21 filing of separation Cain v. Cain on 6/22 and was drooling to post!!!! (LOL)

I love all the newbies posting and love Boris! You guys bring so much more insight to what I've been feeling about the show over the last 6-8 months!

Keep up the blogging...oh, and by the way..HI LITTLE TOMMY! (tee hee)

[Alpinemaps]

I guess he was trying to boost ratings by using the Laura+Tommy angle.

Honestly, I think you're hitting the nail on the head here. They need ratings. They may be #1 last ratings book, but, that's in the past. Doesn't mean it won't change in the future.

Ratings tank and jobs get cut. Of course Tommy is going to do whatever it takes to keep ratings up. If your demographic is the soccer mom who loves a good Hollywood soap opera - then you've got it right now. I'm sure Tommy is scared to death that with all this crap going on, rating will tank, and he'll be out of a job.

I finally heard Laura this morning, and must admit - she does sound different. Not better or less annoying, just different.

Wonder if those blog entries are going to stay up on the site? I wonder if some of those (like the one quoted above, about shopping and drinking and drugs) will get pulled at some point?

[surfing_texan]

Does anybody remember months ago when Laura got into a car accident with some guy? Didn't she say she was nervous because she'd had a "few glasses of white wine"? I'm curious as to what she said about it (because I can't remember exactly), but I didn't want to torture myself by reading her past entries if any of you remembered.
Maybe Chips parents are into the juice and nose candy as well, and that is the reason they're wacked enough to let their kid go visit her in rehab, and drive around with her now.

[mel41099]

So many new posts today!!!! The show has totally gone downhill since she came back. I wonder how she got to stay in her contract, there had to have been something in it about drug use. They should have paid her off to GO AWAY.


What finally broke the back for me was when they used 3 DAYS of air time to do Jerry's stupid joke-experiment. And each time they did it, they prepped it for 3 minutes, went to commericals, then came back and prepped it again for us. Give me a break!


OMG that was so annoying!!!!!


I know Laura/Charlie love that song, but reminding her to "get a fix" or that she needs other people to "fix" her (rather than facing her issues herself) seems like really bad taste.

That was a weird choice of song, and really sad welcome back.


PS, anyone else find it kinda funny (strange) too that they keep playing that song "they tried to make me go to rehab" in the background all the time. How much of a joke are they making of this whole thing?

I couldn't belive that either!!!

What purpose does Laura serve on the show now anyway?

[longcommute]

From Tommy's blog today:
"I love the fact that this morning at 6, everyone on the show was really hurting and here I am come in at 6 with at least 12 hours of sleep behind me and I obviously was not hungover. I just felt good today."
Does that mean everyone else (including Laura) on the showgram was up late drinking and partying last night?

As to how Laura got "shipped off" to rehab--I used to think that there was a family intervention, also involving at least Tommy and Jeff from the Showgram, because Laura (and I think Jeff too?) had mentioned the A&E program Intervention in one of her letters from rehab. But if Tommy had to go find her and pass security, she probably had some sort of legal run-in (either caught trying to buy/posession or DUI) and as part of her bail agreement, was taken to a detox center. Wasn't it soon after Laura's departure that Tommy started to do King Stahlman ads? I don't think it's a coincidence.

And where is Jeff's blog that Tommy keeps promising?

[OneKidOneDogMom]

"I just got off the phone with Laura and she told me she wrote in her diary. She’s really opening up. To the people who say they deserve to hear EVERYTHING, I just want to say: be patient, Laura will tell you everything in her own time. She’s already opened up to you with TWO huge things in her life. She has so much more to say, IN TIME."

Do you think they are dragging out all the details on Laura for RATINGS??? To keep us listening? To try to make the show have some mystique?

No new comments about *anyone* going to meetings. I wonder how Laura spent her 4th of July...??? Anyone recall how she sounded this morning?

[surfing_texan]

You know, if I had a coworker that I considered to be family (as J&J claim Laura to be), and he/she just returned from rehab, I would absolutely not come in to work, or be anywhere around that person, while I was hungover. It really boggles my mind that 4 people (I'm not including Randy, since he doesn't say much anymore) can be so self absorbed/selfish, dense, and inconsiderate.

I know Jer wasn't exactly close to his parents growing up, wasn't there at one point a mention of them being alcoholics? Could that be the reason he has been so quiet about all of this? But then again I guess he is sort of a wino.

On a final note Laura wrote that Charlie told her she's a "Great Mom" and "Great Woman"...if that is what this child thinks a mother/woman should be like...that is truly depressing. Tonight at bed time I asked my 5 year old son "what makes a good mommy/daddy?" and he said "hugs, tickles, kisses, pushing me on the swing, kissing my ouches, reading me stories and yummy supper cookers, and oh yeah, making me wash my belly button" Amazing...not 1 mention of drinking, feeding him rice or fast food for dinner 6 nights a week, or taking him to the liquor store for lotto tickets and candy at 9pm

[pax]

It seems as though Charlie is losing some of his precious, irreplaceable childhood by trying to make his mom feel okay. So sad.

[SadSadSad]

It seems as though Charlie is losing some of his precious, irreplaceable childhood by trying to make his mom feel okay. So sad.

You are thinking exactly what I was thinking. What about the kids, Laura???? When is she going to factor them into herlife? When are they going to be the focus in her life? Children are not accessories.

Does anyone know if she has said sorry yet? Has she apologized to her family, friends, the show, etc. for all the hurt she has caused? Does she even recognize how her behavior affects others? So far it seems to be all about her and how she is dealing with her own bad decisions (and it seems like she's headed down a path to make even more).

[BebeSD]

Tommy told Laura not to apologize for anything, remember? Laura is very much a little girl there; no one requires her to take responsibility for anything or makes her act like an adult.

[momofthree]

I agree about that "Rehab" song. It seems like they are all taking the situation lightly. A family is being destroyed, and they laugh it off. I find it offensive every time they play that song.

As long as we are nitpicking, Tommy said he bought Laura bras and underwear while she was in rehab. Doesn't she have a mom or sister or girlfriend or any female that could have done that for her? Did her entire family/friends abandon her? No one was there for her but good ol' Tommy. If he was truly the only one who could buy her undergarments, why even mention it?? There is no reason to put it out there for everyone to read expect to raise eyebrows and hopefully raise ratings. He (not so much Laura) is giving the impression that there is something between them with statements like, "had to drag her out of bed".

Also, I don't really believe that two attractive and unattached adults could be just friends, especially if one of them is Tommy. He has made is crystal clear that he LOVES women.

One more thing, I think they are getting a tremendous amount of negative email because Tommy has acknowledged them several times, although he CLAIMS only about five negative emails have come in. Bullcrap!

[YoungAmerican]

I said pages back that I thought Laura should apologize, on air, to her family, showgram, listeners, her bosses, etc.. I thought that was part of owning up to your problems and thought that needed to be done in order to move on. What do I know though, I've never been to rehab?

I too think Laura was arrested for something because I remember that bit they did and one of them had been arrested but no one ever "fessed" up at the time. Makes sense, but I'm surprised no one has anymore info on this, since she is such a "BIG DEAL" in San Diego.

AND.. momofthree....what have you been smokin'? 2 attractive adults?????? Who ARE you talking about??? (just kidding) :nuts:

[SDD]

Do you think they are dragging out all the details on Laura for RATINGS??? To keep us listening? To try to make the show have some mystique?

Possibly, it wouldn't surprise me, they are, after all in the business of entertainment. I also think that some of these posts on this board are actually created by showgram employees to create buzz since they are aware that they have a small portion of their audience that spend their mornings listening to J&J then they spend the rest of their day posting here analyzing every word they hear and read regarding the show.

This thread has been entertaining to say the least. I hadn't listened to J&J for quite sometime but was made aware of this thread recently. I must admit, I've tuned in a few times since then because of the silliness I've read here. I love :love: the drama!

I find it amusing that you all have picked up on the staged phone calls etc., but haven't realized that this thread is most likely manufactured and fed by the showgram as well.

Personally, I think the show is a well oiled machine and they are working it. I find it fabulously entertaining....reality radio, brilliant!

[sameome]

AND.. momofthree.... 2 attractive adults?????? Who ARE you talking about??? (just kidding) :nuts:
Exactly what I wanted to say, except for I am not kidding. :wavey2:

[Dilbert-1985]

I think somebody here said Jeff and Jer make over a million each a year, and that even Laura and Randy get paid very well too. I'm just thinking that if they want to make this like a reality show, featuring Laura's problems, well.........In that case, hopefully Laura is being paid very well to put her life's problems out there for the world to see and gossip about.

on the other hand, rehab and addiction problems are serious business, and they shouldn't take this lightly. And her marital problems are very serious business for her family.

She hasn't really said yet, but it's likely that her drug / alcohol / money problems contributed to her marital problems with Dave, or stresses with Dave and the constant demands of children could have fed her addictions in the other areas, and all could have fed off of each other to make her into the Laura Cain we see today.

[SadSadSad]

I find it amusing that you all have picked up on the staged phone calls etc., but haven't realized that this thread is most likely manufactured and fed by the showgram as well.

Personally, I think the show is a well oiled machine and they are working it. I find it fabulously entertaining....reality radio, brilliant!

If this is a thread created by the show than bravo for allowing some criticism of the show somewhere since they aren't courageous enough to put it on the regular website.

As far as a well oiled machine...you mean a stale show on auto pilot, right?

[Dilbert-1985]

I'm a real person. To reply to the person who said the showgram people come on this board and stir things up, well, maybe some screen names belong to them. But I am just a regular person not associated with the showgram in any way.

[SDD]

As far as a well oiled machine...you mean a stale show on auto pilot, right?

Stale? How can you say that? Everyone on this board is eating this stuff up like candy (myself included). If it were stale, this thread would not exist. It's twisted, yes, but it's the reality of reality tv/radio.

[Carol]

I found this section from Tommy's diary a few weeks back very telling...this comes from a section where he is talking about attending an AA/NA meeting...which ever they go too.

“hey, Tommy and Laura, we listen to the show” and “it’s great to have you back Laura”…..Laura and I just kind of looked at eachother and smiled and “laughed with our eyes” and just both realized at that moment that it’s so relatable and so many people relate to what Laura went through

I think we all know why they kept laura on the air, and paid for her leave, because her story = money. Rehab fixes everything, right? Laura's little rehab stint has nothing to do with helping her, her family, or reaching out and helping listeners who may suffer from an actual addiction. Laura plays a poor little addict, makes the station money and everyone is happy. Addiction and rehab is marketable these days, and Tommy's quote pointed that out.

Personally I feel that if she wanted to reach out, and help people through her relateable issues, she wouldn't be telling us about the sexist jokes she tells her very young son who for some ungodly reason looks up to her, she wouldn't talk about how she has to be dragged out of bed, or blab about claim jumper and I don't think she would refer to the mess she has gotten herself into as the "juciest" chapter in her life. I would think she would want to talk about her daily struggles other than superficial weight gain, working on fixing relationships with those who she has hurt, and the reconstruction of her life, which is hopefully a lot more than returning to her closet to find out she can match a trashy shirt and pants with a necklace while high/drunk or whhhatttever.

I can understand needing to keep much of your personal life personal, and wanting to return to a "normal" life, but to echo what everyone else said. Don't claim you are the only morning show that invites the listeners in to your lives, because that is bull. There are morning shows that actually do let lisnters into their lives, and the show in a very real way.

[Alpinemaps]

I'm a real person. To reply to the person who said the showgram people come on this board and stir things up, well, maybe some screen names belong to them. But I am just a regular person not associated with the showgram in any way.

Me too. It's easy enough to confirm I'm a real person - just do a search on Google for my username. I'm using the same username as I do on numerous other boards.

And if there really are showgram people that are continuing the drama in this thread (i.e., not posting the 'stop bashing' posts). ..Good for you guys. Still doesn't change the way the rest of us 'regular folks' feel, though.

[becca2298]

Have you guys noticed that Delana's picture is no longer on the J&J website?? Someone's jealous...

[boris85]

Have you guys noticed that Delana's picture is no longer on the J&J website?? Someone's jealous...

I think it's because Delana is taking over for Rosie...

[becca2298]

I think it's because Delana is taking over for Rosie...

Maybe you're right! She wasn't on the radio today. I missed her voice.

[boris85]

Laura's diary goes into a bit more detail on her marital issues -although not a whole lot more. Laura certainly sounds bitter and scorned. Maybe Dave found her secret stash and used it for himself??? Doubtful. I think when Laura was away. Mr. Cain was at play. I think he found another woman and relaized how good and normal his life could be. He was tired of starring in his own Sid and Nancy film. Finally - we all know Laura was on drugs - she has admitted it. But she keeps dancing around the issue. It's time to come "clean." I think it was meth - that would explain the late nights and the drastic weight gain.

[Smitty]

I think somebody here said Jeff and Jer make over a million each a year, and that even Laura and Randy get paid very well too.

Both Jeff and Jer make over $3 million each a year. Tommy is pulling in at least $1 million a year himself. Laura and Randy are a distant 4th and 5th but rest assured it's still more than a lot of us make.

[Carol]

Its gang up on DaveCain day, in the Jeff and Jer blogs!

[Trixie]

Laura should apologize. I think she should apoligize to all the listeners, the ones who make the ratings.
I'm not associated with the showgram, just a regular person, but I do think an apolgy would be worth a 1,000 words. If she just said she was sorry, and meant it, she might become human again.
Maybe she should change her last name, certain words ending in "caine" should probably be avoided.

[Trixie]

Laura's Diary, July 6th, 2007
Friday, July 6, 2007 at 12:23pm

Dear Diary,

So hard to hear all those news stories about Saturday being the biggest day for weddings in recent memory because of the 07-07-07 angle. As my marriage crumbles, other people are starting on their road of "For Better, For Worse." Hopefully, those marriages will make it though "For Worse." Some people don't take that vow seriously.

Okay, that's my personal rant for the day. Sometimes wish I could friggin' spill my dirty laundry to the whole wide world, but I'm going to take the "high road." Huh, huh…I just wrote the word "high." Anyway………

[Trixie]

The above post was inserted for those whose work accounts block the 94.1 website.
I find it interesting that the timestamp is for 12:23 pm, and it isn't even 10:30 am yet.
Anyway, there is some meat in her message/diary for Friday.

[Dilbert-1985]

Laura sounds a bit bitter about her marriage crumbling. She says how some people don't take "the worse" in the wedding vows "for better or for worse" seriously. Is she saying that Dave didn't take the "for worse" part seriously?

I wish she would tell us more. We know she has some serious issues of her own, but maybe Dave didn't take his wedding vows seriously. And she wishes she had his support through all of this.

Marriage is about "for worse" sometimes, I agree. But I wonder just what happened with them. You can't expect Dave or any spouse to put up with endless nonsense and expect them to put up with it. You shouldn't expect a spouse to put up with physical violence or adultery or other terrible behaviors. So now I wonder what exactly happened in her marriage, and whether the drugs/alcohol contributed to it.

[sameome]

Have you guys noticed that Delana's picture is no longer on the J&J website?? Someone's jealous...
And Laura was doing the "what's going on" bit this morning.

[boris85]

Laura "Co-Cain" brought a whole new level of "worse" to "for better or worse." Let's see - say you're going to AA (probably a last chance offer from Dave to begin with) and then flake as usual. Constantly blow money on blow :cheers:, endanger your kids' lives (they have a pool!), take your kids to the liquor store when they should be sleeping, watch inappropriate, adult-themed shows with your 7 year-old, forget to pick your kid up from school (a Catholic school! - the nuns must love her - I think they are into a different habit), lets her kids roam the neighborhood unsupervised while she's inside enjoying her own personal party, and just failing to live up to life's responsibilities...

[Dilbert-1985]

We need more details to know for sure what's happened.

Did Dave give her an ultimatum about drugs and drinking at some point?

Was Dave resentful that he gave up his dream job as an airline pilot to be in an office job locally, and was unhappy at how things turned out? And did this contribute to marriage issues?

Did she go to rehab as a result of an intervention? Like we see on the TV show "Intervention"?

Did Dave come to feel as if he had three children, not just two?

Maybe Laura has a right to feel resentful to Dave, since he filed for separation right when she returned from rehab? Because wouldn't he want to see how she was after rehab, to see if their lives together would be better?

I just get the feeling that there are a lot of things they are not telling us.

[Trixie]

Sorry for this tangent, but I have been reviewing the archived diary's from Laura and found this of interst. Don't know if was discussed months ago, my apoligies if this is stale news.

"Laura's Diary, November 13th, 2006
Monday, November 13, 2006 at 1:41pm

Dear Diary,

We had such an exciting weekend thanks to Chips. It was his 8th birthday and his dad's did it up!!! On Friday, Jerry hired a limo to pick up the boys and drive em to La Jolla to see "The Wiz." Jerry instructed me and Davecain and Evie to get into the limo before the boys saw it. So, at 6:30, here comes this giant black stretch limo gliding into the cul-de-sac. Evie and I jumped in first. Evie was all excited because she and "mamma" were wearing matching black cowboy boots! ....
I will never forget the look on their precious little boy faces when they saw the limo. Neither of them have ever been in a limo before. So, Chips and Charlie and Larry and Jerry and Davecain and Evie and I "partied" in the limo for 10 minutes before the boys took off for the show."

So, it looks like Chips has two dads, Larry and Jerry. 2 dads, going to the theater on his 8th birthday, what are they grooming him to be? This might explain Chips' relaxed parental guidance? Chips doesn't have a mom influence, and Laura certainly isn't stepping up to fill that void, as she doesn't seem to play mom to her own two.

Okay, now back to the marriage dissolving topics, as you wish.

[Carol]

If Chip does have two fathers, I do not in anyway what-so-ever think that would lead to lax parental guidelines.

[Dilbert-1985]

No, I'm sure we don't want to delve into gay parenting on this site. Anybody with kids can tell you that often there are "extra" kids in your house at different times, as people come and visit and play. So this Chips kid hangs with Charlie a lot. I don't know that we can read a lot into that.

I heard that if Laura gained weight in rehab, that she most likely had a drug problem, or a bigger drug than drinking problem. Reason being, that alcohol has a lot of empty calories in it, so if you stop drinking, you would lose weight. But various drugs have the effect of causing weight loss and killing your appetite so you don't eat as much.

Sounds like Laura misses her size 4 body. But size 10 isn't exactly over weight. Maybe she's just too focused still on outward appearances.

[Trixie]

I'm not bashing Chips. He has a pair of parents, Charlie might have 1/2 a pair of parents, as the case might go.
I'll leave the young kids out of this thread, and pick on someone my own size.
I'm a size 12, so that makes Laura fair game.

[Dilbert-1985]

On one blog entry, Little Tommy said Laura had gained weight but looked good. He said she was too skinny before. So.......maybe her metabolism and internal body chemistry was all screwed up from drugs.

[Dilbert-1985]

Some people here say Jeff and Jer and everybody only work 4 hours a day and sometimes the last hour of the show is taped? But don't they do work behind the scenes, to plan for future shows, work on office paperwork and other stuff we don't see?

[boris85]

If Chip does have two fathers, I do not in anyway what-so-ever think that would lead to lax parental guidelines.

No, just a lot of show tunes & musicals, taffeta, tendor moments, Jim J.Bullock posters, and re-runs of the hit show, "My Two Dads...":wavey2: