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Himmie

07-16-2007, 08:49 AM

I've been reading this thread forever but couldn't get logged on. I used to love the show, and I'd listen with my kids on our long drive to school (they went to school by my work, so we had a fairly long commute together each morning.) They were 9 and 10 then, and we'd laugh our heads off as Randy or Tommy would sneak into a local store and do something silly like pretend to be a Walmart greeter who had to hug the customers. Or they'd somehow get on the store loudspeaker and say something goofy. We were genuinely touched by participating in the human flag after 9/11. But then, one day, we heard something really fake and it was the beginning of the end for us. It was really close to Jingle Ball -- one of the first ones they had -- and they were pretending that they were just about to sign a "big name" to the concert. The couldn't tell the listeners, because it wasn't a "done deal" yet, but they'd tell us the next morning. It was so lame of them to pretend that the Jingle Ball line up not only had been negotiated MONTHS before, but that it was the same lineup all over the country, and in many markets was also called Jingle Ball. I couldn't understand why they had to be so fake. It felt like they were making fools out of gullible listeners.

Then it dawned on me that the "Talk to Cleo/Homer/Arnold" phone calls weren't happening in real time. Those were such funny radio segments, but what would have been wrong with them saying "After the show yesterday we made some talk-to phone calls and we're going to play the ones that were really funny." It still would have been funny. Why did they have to be so fake about it?:confused:

But you know what? I'd take any amount of staged "talk to" segments over the boring, fake, tired, no-effort, self-righteous, preachy, ego-maniacal, pompous, and did I mention boring junk they do now.

Last but not least, Amused is no more Dannell than I am. And I'm not. I'm also not Miss Cleo or Homer Simpson and if truth be told, I am NOT in a last minute secret negotiation to get Sarah McLaughlin to come to Jingle Ball (or Cowles Mtn.)

LBM. J/JBM. TBM. Still like Randy for no reason at all.:disa:

You hit the nail on the head on this one! Phonies they are. Anyone remember how many times they would say what a great station they were working for, not like the horrid place they just left. They did this everytime they changed stations. I remember them saying that Q106 hated women, and they just couldn't tolerate that so they moved to Star (the one before this Star) as it was run by a small, family-owned company not some impersonal, corporate giant! What crap! Why couldn't they just say, hey, we got a fantastic new deal and switched.

Wabbitsd

07-16-2007, 09:09 AM

That writeup in SanDiegoRadio.net looks like it was straight out of a collaboration between Laura and Tommy.

Isn't it cute that we have our very own rehab star here in San Diego?

Interesting, Laura says she was "Shipped off" to rehab, the little puff piece that Sadsadsad linked basically says she couldn't wait to get there!!!

Really looks like it was written by a fresh, new, eagaer-faced young intern.

SDchick

07-16-2007, 09:12 AM

SDchick

07-16-2007, 09:25 AM

So, two things I noticed from Tommy's entry today:

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Last night Laura took me to an NA meeting on Governor Drive. The topic was the 8th Step. Remember, I only go as support for Laura and I relate to these meetings more than I would get out of the ALLANON meetings, so I love to go.
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1)I thought tommy was told (and he agreed) to NOT mention the actual AA meetings, to just say "those meetngs" it's an honor thing he told us.
2)I see that Laura is finally going to meetings that deal with her TRUE addiction, which we all know is not alcohol, but drugs/cocaine. Yes, she has a drinking problem, but the root of her true problems (from what I've learned on here and from my "source" at work tells me) is coke, and I wondered all along why she wasn't going to NA meetings instead of AA.

Carol

07-16-2007, 09:27 AM

http://jeffandjer.star941sandiego.com/images/header_laurasdiary_620x120.jpg
O.M.G. She IS being sponsored by Dr. Bucko! We were all correct, though now we can scratch that one off as being her "big/not big" news!

THAT IS HILARIOUS!!! For so many reasons....

Could you imagine being sponsored by a plastic surgeon?!?

Wabbitsd

07-16-2007, 10:26 AM

That Bucko character must be pretty darn hard up to use her as an example of his work...yikes!

I suspect we will see Bucko in a section on the evening news called "local plastic surgeon investgiated for promoting unnecessary surgeries. Film at 11!"

He's probably in the same social club as those steroid-prescribing doctors involved with professional wrestling.

SadSadSad

07-16-2007, 10:28 AM

I just had the most horrible thought ever. What if the news is that Laura is pregnant with Tommy's child? AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I'm sorry if I ruined anyone's lunch with that thought.)

Alpinemaps

07-16-2007, 10:51 AM

1)I thought tommy was told (and he agreed) to NOT mention the actual AA meetings, to just say "those meetngs" it's an honor thing he told us.

That's true, and he's not honoring the 'traditions'. And that's he's saying he'd get more out of those meeting than Al-Anon. He really needs to go to Al-Anon to understand whether that would be true. But, yes - he's not only hurting Laura's anonymity at these meeting, but he's also endangering the anonmyity of those people at that meeting.

There's a reason the traditions say that discussion about the meetings should be spilled over into the press.

As for the SDRadio.net guy - he isn't writing articles that are unbiased. He's trying to stay in good with the people that give him scoops. I'm not surprised one bit about his glowing review of Laura's battle. I don't look to him for unbiased accounts of what happens in local radio.

ordinarygirl

07-16-2007, 01:58 PM

Welcome SDReadhead and I couldn't agree with you more. You said exactly what I've been thinking/feeling for a few years now. Thanks for articulating it so well.

TWSGBM (The whole showgram bugs me!)

listener13

07-16-2007, 02:50 PM

Crap. I was trying to enter the link and it didn't go. I is not smart. Here it is but you'll have to copy and paste.

http://sdradio.net/2007/07/11/laura-cain-is-a-star/

That is what is so disturbing its not funny.

What a circle jerk that is..............

listener13

07-16-2007, 02:52 PM

That Bucko character must be pretty darn hard up to use her as an example of his work...yikes!

Let's hope she's using her as she is now as his "before" - because if this is after, maybe the Mr. Ed look is back?

Wabbitsd

07-16-2007, 03:28 PM

Ok, correct me if I am wrong...So if Laura was gone what, 3 months on REHAB leave...does this mean she actually gets more annual vacation than J&J? I mean, is SHE on vacation this week, in addition to the time she has already has taken?

In the world I live in, if you need extended medical/personal leave, you suck up all your vacation time first...and I wonder if she got disability on top of that?

Here's a question: Tommy has figured out (for the most part) that a DIARY is a daily thing. Laura has been at it longer than Tommy, but would you think she could do a daily entry? I guess we are to be honored that she can collect her thoughts once every three days, maybe four days, maybe not for a week at a time. and her thing is a diary, not a WebLog, which doesn't infer a daily addition.

Hey, Listener13, no need to get down on Mr. Ed. He was a good looking horse, you know.

YoungAmerican

07-16-2007, 03:47 PM

:puke: Laura can't even hold her own when the rest of the crew is on, could you imagine what it would be like if just Laura was on for 4 hours? All annoying laugh radio.:bash:

SadSadSad

07-16-2007, 05:14 PM

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,74662.0.html

Check out the comments by TheLaffer and Doublecashkgb.

threedog

07-16-2007, 07:21 PM

listener13

07-16-2007, 07:31 PM

sdradio.net only post what shows put on their own websites. you can learn much more coming to this group, thank you.

also, it bothers me that tommy always has to state he is not an addict and that he is only supporting his friend. okay we get it. who is he trying to convince, himself? if he is going to support a friend that is very noble and shouldn't need justification.

I think that he subconsciously thinks that if you keep saying it over and over, he'll actually believe it.

I think I'm a millionaire........I think I'm a millionaire......nope, doesn't work.

Scrapper

07-16-2007, 08:41 PM

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,74662.0.html

Check out the comments by TheLaffer and Doublecashkgb.

hmmmm, it's not working right now

SDNative

07-16-2007, 08:52 PM

www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,74662.0.html

type in the letters: index.php/topi if you only see php/...c,74662.0.html

It gets cut off for some reason when pasting on this site

this part gets cut off: .php/topi

listener13

07-16-2007, 09:20 PM

Trixie

07-16-2007, 09:46 PM

One down, four to go. Working days, that is, with re-runs of the J&J Showgram.

The good news (if there is any) is that some of the reruns are during Laura's rehab time, so you won't have to listen to her.

The bad news is some of the re-runs contain Laura.

I tuned in for a bit this morning, and Jeff was telling a story about his first experience with beer drinking. He actually peed his pants. I won't recap it here, but isn't that in bad 'taste' so to speak for the Showgram to keep focus on alcohol related entertainment? Tell me if I'm wrong, I can take it.

I guess I'll try to catch more reruns this week, just for gits and shiggles.

ladybera32

07-16-2007, 10:31 PM

[QUOTE=listener13]OMG - This video is surreal......
http://www.10news.com/video/9632983/index.html

WOAH! Where did you find that?

They had such a nice place, and now? Gone. :shake:
Like her or hate her, it's really sad.

surfing_texan

07-17-2007, 12:01 AM

i love (and by love i mean, i'm disgusted by thanks to her behavior and habits) the way she kisses the saint on the way in the house, and has crosses hanging all over the wall.

i also think the look she has on her face near the end of the video where Evan is singing happy birthday (that is what that was, right?), is very peculiar..am i reading too much into that?

insightbyjake

07-17-2007, 01:34 AM

OMG - This video is surreal......
http://www.10news.com/video/9632983/index.html

"The Cains use humor to soften life's woes".......that, and Jim Beam

Totally sad - someone who had everything, and gave it all away. Maybe Dave's next wife will cook up nice dinners in that beautiful kitchen from Bardon Cabinets

The roll of the eyes when Dave remarks about her cooking dinner "now"....that defines everything. The notion that one's life is not complete until one's kitchen is complete -- says WAY too much about our shallow, materialistic society. She'd do better harkening back to the wishes of one straw-stuffed man dealing with the effects of a Kansas tornedo..."If I only had a brain..." But, that might mean trading in "stuff" for substance -- a deal she seems incapable of making.

listener13

07-17-2007, 07:20 AM

i love (and by love i mean, i'm disgusted by thanks to her behavior and habits) the way she kisses the saint on the way in the house, and has crosses hanging all over the wall.

Oh, I know - and I think she was also wearing cross earrings. Those symbols mean things to me, not just as "fashion". Seems like the only religion she embraced were the monks that make Limoncello in Italy.

I hope she found her "higher power" in rehab, because, she's gonna need him/her. Unlike cancer, which can in cases be cured, alcoholism cannot.....it's a daily, constant battle.

Still feel bad for Dave and the kids......hope the kids didn't inherit the "me, me, me" gene from Laura.

Carol

07-17-2007, 08:25 AM

Where 'o' where has little Tommy's blog gone?

newgal

07-17-2007, 08:31 AM

I couldn't find Tommy's blog either so I searched for it in their search field and it came right up. I just typed in Little Tommy's blog and there it was! Of course now he is saying he thinks he likes someone but although she looks like Laura it's not Laura. Sounds like a substitute to me!

Carol

07-17-2007, 08:49 AM

SDchick

07-17-2007, 08:53 AM

Where 'o' where has little Tommy's blog gone?
I was just wondering that myself! I wonder why it got bumped from their home page? I'm not even going to bother looking for it right now... who am I kidding? It's like a train-wreck, I can't help myself!

Oh, and it was great hearing 93.3 today, they're so refreshing and fast-paced. They have NEVER dragged on a bit for hours and hours like J&J do! Also, I want to extend a special thank you to Little Tommy, :wavey2: who puts together the Best of J&J, for making the "Best Of" so boring and lame, you, LT, are the reason I discovered A.J.'s Playhouse to begin with! I love when J&J are on vacation!

BebeSD

07-17-2007, 08:55 AM

http://jeffandjer.star941sandiego.com/tommyblog.html

Goes right to it.

Carol

07-17-2007, 08:57 AM

I have to agree AJ's Playhouse is quickly growing on me. Ever since they got rid of boy toy jessee I can tolerate the show ALOT MORE. Dare I say I even like them?

ca_girl

07-17-2007, 09:06 AM

OH MY!
From Tommy's blog-
"This afternoon I got a email from a woman in Oregon who reads my blog. She was to the point and it got me thinking. She said, “Tommy, why do you always have to say you aren’t an addict but you love to go to the meetings?” She went on and said, “nobody believes you, that you are not an addict going to meetings
Someone here is from Oregon? ;)

He also mentioned that he's getting a permit for the # of people that show up for the walk. Wasn't that also mentioned here?

Ok, correct me if I am wrong...So if Laura was gone what, 3 months on REHAB leave...does this mean she actually gets more annual vacation than J&J? I mean, is SHE on vacation this week, in addition to the time she has already has taken?

In the world I live in, if you need extended medical/personal leave, you suck up all your vacation time first...and I wonder if she got disability on top of that?
Not all places of employment require you to use all your PTO. Mine doesn't. You CAN use it to supplement your income, if necessary, but you can come back & have all your time off you had prior to leaving.

SDchick

07-17-2007, 09:33 AM

"I have to agree with Dave a bit. Also this whole concept of writing eveything in a diary or a blog is weird. Its way too personal to be listener fodder. Plus in the old days, the legendary jocks were all drunks and drug abuseers but they sounded damn good, and didn't moan or feel sorry for themselves."
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That's my fav post of the day! I believe it was from Doublecashkgb.
The "sounded damn good" (in my mind) refers to J&J, and the "didn't moan or feel sorry for themselves" seems like it applies to Tommy.

Thanks for the link!

BuzzBuzz

07-17-2007, 10:19 AM

SDchick

07-17-2007, 10:22 AM

Hey All - long time lurker and first time poster. I just read Tommy's latest journal entry and had to post. He said, "All I know is that I LOVE TO GO TO MEETINGS about AA AND NA and even CMA."

CMA is Crystal Meth Anonymous! Just thought I would pass along that observation.

I was wracking my little brains trying to figure that one out, thanks! Hmmm...he goes with Laura to CMA meetings? I really thought we'd all ruled that drug out on here. She had no crystal meth symptoms, nasty scabs on skin, super skinny, sketchy, etc... like most high-school kids I remembered. :dead: Maybe she did it along with the coke...???

Carol

07-17-2007, 11:17 AM

He didnt say that he went to CMA with Laura...did he?

What did his brother do? Could he have gone to CMA when he wanted to share his brothers story?

BuzzBuzz

07-17-2007, 11:20 AM

I think in general you are right about the appearance of people who use meth - but I found this interesting insight about meth and rehab:

Meth rehab programs based on the social education modality are highly successful. This means that individuals who are recovering from meth addiction are not made wrong for their past indiscretions, but are taught how to avoid future ones. They are provided with knowledge on how to change their lives and how to live comfortably without meth. Research studies show that residential meth rehab programs of at least 3 months in duration have the best success rates. (http://www.stopmethaddiction.com/meth-rehab.htm)

That sounds very much like what Laura did - not taking personal responsibility for past indiscretions - and the length of time.

SadSadSad

07-17-2007, 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=BuzzBuzz]I just read Tommy's latest journal entry and had to post. He said, "All I know is that I LOVE TO GO TO MEETINGS about AA AND NA and even CMA." QUOTE]

That is really disturbing and one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard anyone say. Addiction is an illness. That's like saying you love to go to the cancer ward and see people get chemo and bone marrow transplants. My husband is a diabetic and I'm glad he takes care of the disease but I don't LOVE to see him take insulin injections or monitor his blood.

I think it would be interesting for Tommy to explain why he likes those meetings....to a therapist. That guy needs some serious help.

ca_girl

07-17-2007, 11:59 AM

I was wracking my little brains trying to figure that one out, thanks! Hmmm...he goes with Laura to CMA meetings? I really thought we'd all ruled that drug out on here. She had no crystal meth symptoms, nasty scabs on skin, super skinny, sketchy, etc... like most high-school kids I remembered. :dead: Maybe she did it along with the coke...???
I though it had been mentioned about CMA. Sorry. I would've mentioned it sooner.

Not all people get the nasty scabs on their face. I've had people very close to me not get them where you'd "normally" be able to see them. They also didn't get super skinny. In fact, they gained some weight. The meth didn't make them not hungry, just made them very, um... attentive, I guess would be the workd I would use. They still ate normal meals.

Not everyone rects to drugs the same as everyone else.

ca_girl

07-17-2007, 12:01 PM

Apologies for the double post.

I just read Tommy's latest journal entry and had to post. He said, "All I know is that I LOVE TO GO TO MEETINGS about AA AND NA and even CMA."

That is really disturbing and one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard anyone say. Addiction is an illness. That's like saying you love to go to the cancer ward and see people get chemo and bone marrow transplants. My husband is a diabetic and I'm glad he takes care of the disease but I don't LOVE to see him take insulin injections or monitor his blood.

I think it would be interesting for Tommy to explain why he likes those meetings....to a therapist. That guy needs some serious help.

Hoestly, if I was at one of the meetings he was at, it would make me very unconfortable if Tommy were there. He doesn't get it.

SDchick

07-17-2007, 12:53 PM

Not everyone rects to drugs the same as everyone else.
You're right, I shouldn't have generalized, I just haven't seen anything except what I had described. But that was 18 years ago, and I only saw the "obvious" sketchers, who knows how many meth users I actually came across in high school! Go Santana! Crystal Meth capitol of San Diego! (sorry to be so glib) :disa:

Amused

07-17-2007, 02:04 PM

As I said in my initial post I viewed this site because a friend sent me this link because I was concerned for the safety of my children now that Laura is residing with Tommy.

I didn't join this site in an attempt to undermine Tommy personally or professionally. He is a great provider to our children and in his defense he has never been late with a support payment. (Why I'm sharing this I don't know)

Again, I was concerned for my children and he isn't about to tell me the truth. I only heard that she was in rehab with no other details. He didn't share any details with me except to say that she's "GREAT". I have my reservations and I don't believe that in today's society that everyone who enters rehab is rehabilitated when they exit the program.

I suppose I could take this all up legally, however after a very long divorce I am not a fan of lawyers or the "legal" system. They're all vultures praying on chaos and if you know of anyone going through a divorce suggest mediation to them and tell them to bank their money for their children! That would be something positive for everyone!

My street was Worthington Street and not that anyone would know that except for old friends.

I won't post again here and I wish you all the best. I'm sure anyone here who is a parent would have taken a peek at a link from a friend as well. Unfortunately I'm not excited about what I found out, but it certainly didn't surprise me.

Sincerely,
Dannell

SDchick

07-17-2007, 02:21 PM

Hi Amused, I absolutely believe this is who you say you are. Your concern for your children is heartfelt and comes through loud and clear. I am a mom also, and I would have many questions and reservations about what is going on in my children's lives when I am not around.

I also aplaud you for not wanting to undermine Tommy, and I don't think you did that in ANY of your previous posts. I know he reads these from time to time, and you have nothing to worry about. HE on the hand, should worry a-plenty.

I wish you continued success in life, and though you said you won't be coming back here again, I know I'd be thrilled if you did! :)

monkeymonkey

07-17-2007, 02:58 PM

Amused... you sound like a good, stable and "normal" mom. Kudos. From what I've seen and heard of Laura, she is not. As for Tommy... without bashing the father of your children, I think could benefit from some therapy. Not saying he's crazy, but think a reality check would be useful. A bunch of adoring fans isn't the healthiest check on yourself.

I think you have reason to be concerned about Laura being around them. Not just from a drug perspective, but her priorities are off. She's struggling right now and isn't a good role model. Just my 2cents.

Thanks for posting.

Wabbitsd

07-17-2007, 03:23 PM

Ok, I read Tommy's Blog from yesterday and today. I am NOT going to e-mail him at the station, but since he is obviously reading here, I'll say it here.

His denial about his dependence on substances is so striking. In my understanding of this world, if the substance substantially changes your behavior, you can be an addict. Primarily an alcoholic. If you drink so you can be more outgoing, more fun, etc. etc....you may not be an alcoholic in terms of not being able to put it down, but you are an alcoholic. you depend on it to be who you are.

Tommy has domestic violence raps in the past...at least two filed by Dannell...who knows how many others. I dunno, do we think he generally knocks folks around? Does he have anger management issues? probably so...but if he was drunk when he knocked her around and he wouldn't do it otherwise....ok, Tommy, were you "Drinking" but not drunk? Then you ARE an alcoholic.

Attending and thinking of yourself as a "NORMY" as Laura so "cutely" put it :puke: is nothing but exposing yourself as a condescending attention-seeker.

Go to the meetings for the same reason everyone else goes: work on your problem(s). Quit going for the rush of "I'm so much better than you folks, and no one can tell I have the same problems, so I am sooo cool."

the whole deal about the philosophy of the rehab place where you don't own the responsibility for your past is nothing but bs in my book.

I tell you what, I wouldn't have my kids within miles of either one of those two characters (Laura or Tommy).

This celebrity leveling of rehab is certainly a gateway to opening a whole new industry in bringing people just to the brink of improving themselves...then of course, signing them up for two or more seminars to fine-tune themselves. It's a shameful health industry cop out. Sounds like something rehashed from the 70's with Werner Erhard.

boris85

07-17-2007, 03:43 PM

I though it had been mentioned about CMA. Sorry. I would've mentioned it sooner.

Not all people get the nasty scabs on their face. I've had people very close to me not get them where you'd "normally" be able to see them. They also didn't get super skinny. In fact, they gained some weight. The meth didn't make them not hungry, just made them very, um... attentive, I guess would be the workd I would use. They still ate normal meals.

Not everyone rects to drugs the same as everyone else.

No - they just get ugly and start to resemble a talking horse.

Wabbitsd

07-17-2007, 04:01 PM

LOL! Boris!

I wonder if Laura's boil on her head was her try at Crystal Meth symptoms?

Daisy CA

07-17-2007, 05:02 PM

In case you didn't read this from Tommy's Blog:

"I’m really liking this girl. I think I’m kind of gun shy when it comes to seeing anyone, but something tells me she’s pretty cool. She said something to me which was the most precious thing I’ve ever been told. Maybe in a few days or so, I will share it with you. I don’t want to be with anyone, so maybe she will just be a friend to me like Laura is right now. OR maybe it is time for me to see if it goes any further. OR maybe she can just be a good ol fashion BOOTY CALL?"

What is he thinking writing this stuff? If I were this girl I would be so ticked off about the booty call thing...it's one thing for a guy to think this, but to blog it for everyone to see???? And he wants to share with us the "most precious thing" she told him? There are things in personal relationships that should be kept private. I know I wouldn't want my husband blabbing cute stuff I've told him to his friends, let alone the general public! This woman needs to run for the hills! Unless it's really LAURA!!?!!

surfing_texan

07-17-2007, 06:03 PM

Maybe she needs a new car, house, boat, or RV?

Carol

07-17-2007, 06:30 PM

I can't belive what he writes in those blogs sometimes. Imagine if you were a preteen/teen girl who is staying up all night on the internet (I think you know who I am talking about) reading all the things her dad writes. All of the sexest, inappropriate BS that spills out of his mind everday in his blogs. It has always bothered me that he is so outright sexest with specific regard to how he talks about his children, and posts it in a public place where his children can read it anytime they want.

Even if he is portraying a character on the show, I still think it is highly inappropriate, and has no place on a "family oriented" show.

Because, ya know.....its all for the kids. Right?

MomCat

07-17-2007, 06:46 PM

Hi all, just happened to be listening to Tony & Kris on 95.7 today and they said something about their gal sidekick or maybe she's their producer, I don't know, anyhow,they said that she is "still in rehab" WHAT? And Tony's wife Candy who is almost as annoying as Laura, (imagine that) is sitting in for her.

SadSadSad

07-17-2007, 06:50 PM

We should start some campaign to warn all women about THE PIG aka Tommy Sablan.

pax

07-17-2007, 07:15 PM

http://www.dontdatehimgirl.com/search/cheater.asp?ddh_id=53535&return_url=index%2Easp%3F

mel41099

07-17-2007, 07:30 PM

Today's blog is priceless...

I’ve had hangovers that have lasted longer than this mini trip I’m going on and I feel like I’m going to miss you so much with this blog NOW being so much a part of my life now.

hmmmmm...Mr. IdonthaveasubstanceabuseproblemIjustgotomeetingsbecasueIlovethem, why would you say that???

I totally agree that he should NOT be posting half the stuff he does, you know Vanessa reads all of it - and now I'm sure Dannell is as well. And if that new girl has half a brain (oh wait, she can't, she's dating Tommy) then she reads it too.
But if he dodn't post, we wouldn't have half as much fun picking him apart now, would we??? :)

Oh, and this comment:

Laura’s doing great….I talk to her all the time by the way…….

we know you do Tommy, she lives in your HOUSE (those caps were for you)

it gets better!

I do hear there’s a place where there’s nice flowers and stuff called OLYMPIC GARDENS, so I may go there to check out the flowers and stuff. J

who do you really think you're kidding Tommy?????????:stupid:

And from Laura today...

Jenny came down with Hailey yesterday. It was great to catch up with her, although it was a bit shocking at first. She told me all sorts of things I had no idea were going on all around me in rehab. I feel like an idiot in a way. I feel foolish, too. She says she had to keep these secrets from me for fear of betraying our other roomates. Was I that big of a square that no one even thought to invite me to the "party." I would not have accepted, but I sure would've liked to be asked. She told me that everyone repected me too much...that everyone cared too much about what I thought. I guess that's a good thing. Still feel like somewhat of a nerd.

still all about memememememememememememmeemememememmmeeeeeeeee
Glad to see she befriended another overprivledged shallow mom of young kids in rehab, and now their little ones can play together.

07-17-2007, 07:40 PM

This is my first post here, but I have been reading this thread for the last year or so, and I think it is great. I also love all the recent activity, which inspired me to sign up.

I started listening to Jeff and Jer in the early '90s and I thought they were great. I really bought into their "conversational style", and their apparent down-to-earth personalities. As time went by, I started to tire of their act (although for some perverse reason I could not stop listening). I thought it was just me being jaded and cynical, but now I see I am not alone.

Anyway, enough about me. Does anyone else think it is amazingly inconsiderate of Tommy to build a skateboard ramp in his yard? I can't imagine that he has a big yard living in Rancho Penasquitos. I wonder what his neighbors think. If I were his neighbor, it would drive me up the wall.

Also, my prediction is Laura's big news will be that she is living with Tommy. Of course they will spin it that Tommy is just being a "good friend" while Laura is going through her marital difficulties.

surfing_texan

07-17-2007, 07:42 PM

I wonder if Laura is using real names when referring to her rehab friends...and their children (as a mom, that would tick me off). So much for remaining anonymous. Maybe she should consider that not everybody in rehab is like her and wants the world to feel sorry for them due to their lack of self control

mel41099

07-17-2007, 07:45 PM

Hey, check out this picture of Laura at Jeff's wedding that I found on Little Tommys cell phone picture blog:

http://imageserver4.textamerica.com/user.images.x/0/IMG_361100/_0826/T520060826185714960.jpg

surfing_texan

07-17-2007, 08:12 PM

what the hell?

LisaP

07-17-2007, 08:18 PM

Two Words -

TRAIN WRECK

[Sorry about the CAPS, but can't feel anything other than "it's fitting"].

RowdyOne

07-17-2007, 08:34 PM

LisaP

07-17-2007, 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=mel41099]Hey, check out this picture of Laura at Jeff's wedding that I found on Little Tommys cell phone picture blog

1. She is getting a huge pimple popped.
2. Her dress clasp is caught in her hair.
3. She just got kicked out of the reception and is having her rented dress removed.
4.
5.
6.
C'mon you guys... captions!

1. She is getting a huge pimple popped.
2. Her dress clasp is caught in her hair.
3. She just got kicked out of the reception and is having her rented dress removed.
4. Laura, You need to put your dress back on!
5.
6.
C'mon you guys... captions!

RowdyOne

07-17-2007, 08:45 PM

Mom2ThreeBoys

07-17-2007, 08:59 PM

RowdyOne

07-17-2007, 09:11 PM

longcommute

07-17-2007, 09:40 PM

1. She is getting a huge pimple popped.
2. Her dress clasp is caught in her hair.
3. She just got kicked out of the reception and is having her rented dress removed.
4. Laura, You need to put your dress back on!
5. Oh No, not another lice infestation!
6. I thought that staph infection was in your HAIR EXTENSIONS! I think it's spread to your...EEEEWWW!
7.Good God, Laura, can't you even tie a bow?
8. When will they stop talking about love, marriage and committment and get back to talking about me? I can't hear you! NA NA NA NA NA!
9.
C'mon you guys... captions!

Lipstick

07-17-2007, 10:01 PM

I have no doubt that Amused is really Dannell. Last Friday evening, she sent me a private message with the street name I requested. Well, Tommy could have known the street name so I responed with the first names of five girls who were in our sixth grade class. I asked that she give me the last names. She responded correctly with four out of five (mine included) and knew the beginning initial of the fifth. I'm proud to say that there is no way Tommy would know my name. I'm a believer. :wavey2:

OneKidOneDogMom

07-17-2007, 10:07 PM

I'm glad to have some verification that Amused is who she says she is...I admit I was very skeptical when she first posted and for that I apologize.

I do have to say that Dannell seems to be very grounded and a great parent - I am glad to see that the kids have that positive influence in their lives.

I, too, hope that Amused will stick around but understand if she doesn't. It can't be easy to be in her place....

Lipstick

07-17-2007, 11:09 PM

1. She is getting a huge pimple popped.
2. Her dress clasp is caught in her hair.
3. She just got kicked out of the reception and is having her rented dress removed.
4. Laura, You need to put your dress back on!
5. Oh No, not another lice infestation!
6. I thought that staph infection was in your HAIR EXTENSIONS! I think it's spread to your...EEEEWWW!
7. Good God, Laura, can't you even tie a bow?
8. When will they stop talking about love, marriage and committment and get back to talking about me? I can't hear you! NA NA NA NA NA!
9. Does this dress make my face look big?
C'mon you guys... captions!

Ritchie

07-17-2007, 11:20 PM

I just want to say welcome to all the new posters here. I share your frustration in the show and I'm glad that there are so many posts and opinions.

I started listening at the very start of the Y95 days. Hank Bauer(sp) was there and it was just the two J's and Tommy.

The J's were sharing a place in La Jolla and Tommy was still in Chula Vista at his mom's. Anyone remember when Tommy's SUV was stolen on the air?

I'm sick and tired of the scripted radio they do now. How they try to make it sound spontanious. It isn't. Whenever you hear one of them stop the show to talk about something, rest assured it was already discussed no matter how surprised the rest of the group act.

Ritchie

07-17-2007, 11:34 PM

Okay, I'll join.

1. She is getting a huge pimple popped.
2. Her dress clasp is caught in her hair.
3. She just got kicked out of the reception and is having her rented dress removed.
4. Laura, You need to put your dress back on!
5. Oh No, not another lice infestation!
6. I thought that staph infection was in your HAIR EXTENSIONS! I think it's spread to your...EEEEWWW!
7. Ow. That shutter is sooo loud.
8. Must remember: wedding first, drinking after.
9. You don't have to hold my hair. I'm not ready to throw up yet.

srdude

07-18-2007, 01:13 AM

Today's blog is priceless...

Quote:
I do hear there’s a place where there’s nice flowers and stuff called OLYMPIC GARDENS, so I may go there to check out the flowers and stuff.

who do you really think you're kidding Tommy?????????:stupid:

I think he should visit the place called spearmint rhino. I hear that the rhino's are very nice there. :naughty: :kiss: :winkie:

Scrapper

07-18-2007, 07:14 AM

I don't know if I could recognize her, but all these girls look of the younger set. I wondered if Nina Detrow was in any of these?

OTL pics link

http://photos.signonsandiego.com/gallery1.5/070715otl

ca_girl

07-18-2007, 08:08 AM

Dannell - I hope you keep reading - this place finds all kinds of information out!

Taken from Laura's Diary "Then, Evan screamed out "I want to hear the Bad Momma Song." She claims it's Justin Timberlake's "My Love". I think it's actually "White Lines"

Basically, what I read as her not knowing what was going on in rehab, was that she's pissed she didn't know everyone around her was still using. She was pissed she wasn't asked?! Umm... Nice way to be in recovery.

Isn't Tommy taking his KIDS to Vegas? Why even mention Olympic Gardens? Oh, wait... It's Tommy. Vegas is not a place for kids. They tried to make it a family place. It didn't work. You can't even walk down the strip without people trying to hand you fliers for strippers/hookers. GREAT CHOICE TOMMY!

We know why the girl is interested in tommy now, though. He's FLYING HER TO VEGAS. :disa:

ETA: I forgot to say :wavey2: to Tommy, since we all know he's reading - I see you've admitted your addiction to blogging. That's the first step!

cheekymonkey

07-18-2007, 08:42 AM

Transplant

07-18-2007, 08:54 AM

YoungAmerican

07-18-2007, 09:12 AM

Some of us have seen this one before, but for the new ones here that haven't, here is some more funny info on bhb Laura.

http://bedheadblonde.com/news/cain_pressrelease.html

feefifofum

07-18-2007, 10:19 AM

http://www.dontdatehimgirl.com/search/cheater.asp?ddh_id=53535&return_url=index%2Easp%3F

What a pig! He must give girls rufies b/c I don't know what anyone would see in him! :shrug:

mel41099

07-18-2007, 10:45 AM

Some of us have seen this one before, but for the new ones here that haven't, here is some more funny info on bhb Laura.

http://bedheadblonde.com/news/cain_pressrelease.html

See?? She really IS a big deal...there's even a band named after her. :)

RowdyOne

07-18-2007, 11:09 AM

Today Laura's diary is kinda sad. It almost makes me want to take back some of the negative things I said about her. I really hope she does get her act together, whatever happens with the show, her marriage, her kids, etc. Here's an excerpt - she's probably talking about Cree, among others:

It's been a rough couple of weeks. Let me just say that you never really know who your friends are until push comes to shove. It's been a very hurtful lesson I've learned over these past few months. A few of my "friends" turned out to be quite the opposite.

ca_girl

07-18-2007, 11:35 AM

After reading her Diary today, I have to say - maybe hearing about the suicides & the trouble with the law she's seeing her "rehab friends" go through is enough to wake her up & realize it's a path to nowhere & she needs to not be on it for her kids.

longcommute

07-18-2007, 11:44 AM

Okay, so maybe I was wrong about Dannell posting here. You seem incredibly normal, which made me suspicious!

On Dr. Bucko sponsoring her blog--If Laura had a boob job, when would she have had it done? She did have 10 extra days (90 days rehab, gone 100 days) but seems to me the extra days weren't all clumped together. Another thought--maybe this whole thing started with a boob job. She had withdrawals after surgery when she couldn't get to the booze/drugs as easily, Dave wouldn't help, and she wound up in the hospital. Obviously completely hypothetical, but would explain why she needed Tommy to get her new bras, too!

"Tommy said to me that I need to get my head out of rehab. I know this is true, but I'm still kind of fresh out of the place. I still talk to these people. I've made friends and it's hard for me to let go of them so easily. I've lived a lot of life in the last 4 months." Laura needs to keep her head in rehab so she doesn't end up like the people she keeps talking about going MIA, committing suicide or relapsing. Sounds like Tommy got his little feelings hurt and is tired of hearing about her other friends--he wants to rescue her. Maybe that's a good sign and means the novelty of going to meetings with Laura is wearing off, too.

Ritchie

07-18-2007, 11:48 AM

From Tommy's blog: Well, the kids are getting ready and I’m all set to go. Home is secure and the house-sitter is here.

Who do you think that house-sitter IS? Who needs A house-sitter FOR a two day trip?

mel41099

07-18-2007, 11:56 AM

All I’m saying is that she’s cool and I think I kind of have a crush on her. I’m flying her out to Vegas tomorrow and who knows, maybe I’ll come back married.-----------------------------------------------------------Just kidding, but that would be really funny wouldn’t it?

If the point of his vacation was to spend time with his kids, WHY is he flying a "crush" out there to be with them?? What kind of example is that to set for Eddie & Vanessa??

longcommute

07-18-2007, 11:56 AM

I think the house-sitter is LAURA. That way, no one will wonder why there are lights on and noise coming from the house when he has publicly announced he won't be home!

2wheelermom

07-18-2007, 12:36 PM

If the point of his vacation was to spend time with his kids, WHY is he flying a "crush" out there to be with them?? What kind of example is that to set for Eddie & Vanessa??

Got to agree with you there. What on earth is he thinking??:disa:

yourmama

07-18-2007, 01:50 PM

that's the problem, Tommy doesn't think, at least not with his head! and taking his crush along, maybe he will "get lucky" IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN---I really hate it whenever he says that!

Wabbitsd

07-18-2007, 02:08 PM

Ok, Amused.

So...do you guys NOT have some agreement about going on vacations and significant bed partners when the kids are along?

What are you BOTH thinking? Unless you are intentionally raising potential "Paris Hilton" and "Wanna be Bad Boy Eminem" there, what kind of reality are you setting up for your kids?

If you've read back, several of us already have concerns about Tommy's attitude and raising not just a young girl but a pre-teen boy as well...what kinds of attitudes toward women and relationships do you expect your children to absorb?

Tommy is an addictive denier. Hopefully, Amused, you have some better direction and a better moral compass.

Sapphie

07-18-2007, 02:10 PM

From Tommy's blog: Hey, is this something I can utilize those 12 steps to? Seriously, I’m packing copies of the permits and stuff for the BBQ and Torrey Pines Hikes and looking over catering quotes and throwing all the numbers in my suitcase. I thought I was able to leave my cell phone and work stuff at home, but I can’t and have no intention to.
So, with his work AND a girl in tow, when is he going to have time for his all-important kids?
...and, on another note, since he's so adamant about being a 'normy' and constantly stresses that he doesn't have any habits that qualify him for AA or NA meetings, where does he get off giving Laura advice on how to work her own program? (ie. telling her she needs to get her head out of rehab) He is behaving like a classic "al-anonic" and should get himself off to one of their meetings asap. IMHO

Daisy CA

07-18-2007, 02:10 PM

Regarding Tommy's blogs about "That Girl" (my apologies to Marlo Thomas)...

Yesterday I wrote:

"And he wants to share with us the "most precious thing" she told him? There are things in personal relationships that should be kept private."

Today Tommy writes:

"I wish I was able to tell you what she told me, but that would be too private, but what she told me, was the most precious thing I’ve ever been told before."

Ya think maybe Tommy takes to heart what we write here??? Hmmm...

OK, I need to go now...it's time for me to get a life!!! :nuts:

cheekymonkey

07-18-2007, 02:25 PM

:eek3:
What a pig! He must give girls rufies b/c I don't know what anyone would see in him! :shrug:

I just read the forum and the letter pertaining to him. THAT is horrible! And to think Jeff, Mr. Holier than Thou, says they are best friends. I would NEVER socially involve myself with someone of that scummy nature.

Tommy IS a predator and I'm sure if someone searched hard enough, you'd probably find restraining orders against him from women.

The worst part of it is his using his status at 94.1 and his authority figure to LURE women. :dead:

Pig? That word is too good for him. Snake? Lower than pond scum? Even lower than that.

I wonder if Becky's house chairpersons know this about??

Sapphie

07-18-2007, 02:29 PM

from Tommy's blog this morning: Laura: I think she’s on Channel 51 with Sandra Maas tomorrow morning…..I think they’re talking to her LIVE about being at REHAB and stuff like that…..Laura’s met this girl a few times, I wonder what Laura thinks. I should ask her.

first, does anyone know what time Sandra Maas is on? ...and second, I don't understand why Tommy has yet to ask Laura what she thinks of 'this girl' since not only has Laura met 'this girl' several times already but according to Tommy, he and Laura talk ALL the time to each other...seems to me he would have already asked Laura's opinion....

GirlfromOR

07-18-2007, 06:05 PM

Tommy mentioned me in his blog... that I asked him some pointed questions. I tried joining and logging on sooner to post this but it took a little bit of time to let me post for some reason. Anyways, here is what I said to him, and his response. I think you'll enjoy it... (I took my email out to protect my privacy.

Below is the result of your feedback form:
It was submitted by: (@comcast.net)
on Monday, July 16, 2007 at 19:42:40
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

station: KMYI

name: TD

workplace: somewhere

homephone: 503-956-XXXX

workphone: same

fax: n/a

comments: How come you are constantly trying to convince people that you don't HAVE to go to those meetings? Nobody believes that you aren't an addict? You already said in one blog that you drink and "do stuff". Why are you mentioning it so much? You aren't embracing your recovery if you are always denying your problem.

**Here is his response to me:
From:"Little Tommy" <[email protected]>
[Add to Address Book]

To:<@comcast.net>
Subject:RE: Quick Question
Date:Monday, July 16, 2007 4:55:48 PM

Good point. I'm trying to figure that out as we speak. I'm reading the 12 traditions and I have never ever bottomed out or lost anything due to this, but with the 3 tradition being you just want to have a desire to stop, then that qualifies me. It's just that I may be the only person that I know that simply just wants to STOP in support of my friends. I took a test at NA and it said that I was just a NORMIE, which is a term for a normal person, but I love the fact that I relate to this addiction. I haven't drank in 5 years and I just don't like it, but that's not to say I am not. Love, Tommy

I responded to him with this: ( edited out the date/time stamps/reciept info)

"You said in your response to me that you haven't drank in 5 years because you don't like the taste. I assume that means alcohol, but in your blog in April, the day after your big weigh in at party, you said that you quit drinking alcohol help to facilitate your weightloss. You've said that numerous times in your blogs. On May 13 you posted that you eliminated booze and women in March and that not dating kept you out of restaurants, which in turn kept you from eating poorly and drinking booze... I really think that it is a bad sign if you are not being completely honest with yourself about drinking. March was not that long ago, certainly not 5 years ago. If you can't admit that you drink booze to yourself and pretend that you don't when people ask you about it, how are you going to help yourself?

I'm just wondering if maybe you feel, deep down inside, that you DO have a small problem with alcohol and "other stuff", but you are afraid to admit it. So you go to these meetings w/ Laura and the other lady and participate under the pretense of being there as a good friend. I feel this way because of the way you are constantly saying that you don't have a problem and don't need to go to the meetings. You mentioned that Al-Anon isn't for you, even though it is for people who have addicts in their lives. Have you ever been to Al-Anon? How do you know its not for you? Anyone can convince themselves that they are a normie, and manipulate the test to get the results that they want. Were you completely honest with yourself during the test? I really think that in order to achieve any goal we set our minds to, we have to analyze and reflect and be willing to open ourselves up to the vulnerability of admitting our faults." I also told him that you didn't have to bottom out to be an addict and that I thought he was in denial.

He responded a second time to me with this: "I'm not debating you. I loved your email to me. I am trying to figure it out as well. I wrote about you in my new blog, not sure it is posted. I will try to send it to you. I wrote it earlier today.?"

insightbyjake

07-18-2007, 06:07 PM

Okay, no offense meant here but today's Page 137 is estrogen overkill. It is JEFF and Freakin JER!!!! Come on folks, let's get back to pounding the hermaphrodites!!

Otherwise, we'll have to start playing background music on this site. First song, for page 137? "Musckrat Love."

Come on everyone, sing along!!!

Muskrat, Muskrat, candle light
Doing the town
and doing it right in the evening, it's pretty pleasing
Muskrat Suzie, Muskrat Sam do the jitterbug
out in Muskrat Land And they shimmy...
Sam is so skinny
And they whirl and they twirl and they tango
Singing and jinging a jango
Floating like the heavens above
Looks like Muskrat Love.
Nibbling on bacon, chewing on cheese Sam says to Suzie,
Honey, would you please be my Mrs?
Suzie says yes with her kisses
Now he's tickling her fancy,
rubbing her toes muzzle to muzzle now,
anything goes as they wriggle,
Sue starts to giggle

LisaP

07-18-2007, 06:36 PM

And to think Jeff, Mr. Holier than Thou, says they are best friends.

Jeff is FAR from Holier than Thou.

pax

07-18-2007, 06:49 PM

Details, LisaP! :)

cheekymonkey

07-18-2007, 07:43 PM

Jeff is FAR from Holier than Thou.

Lisa Lisa!! Girlfriend...'splain?

:cheers:

LisaP

07-18-2007, 08:38 PM

Details, LisaP! :)

Lisa Lisa!! Girlfriend...'splain?

:cheers:

This is qualified by the fact that I was not personally there, but a very trusted friend was. If I didn't consider the source to be a trusted one, I would not pass this information on.

When Jeff worked for Y95, he was married to his first wife. Nina, wife #2 also worked for Y95. They were all on a Y95 cruise, when Jeff left wife #1 for Nina.

Due to traveling today, I heard way more of J&J re-runs than I needed to. Pissed me off that 94.1 and 101.5 made it far farther than 93.3. The first bit [re-run] that I heard, I was actually happy about. Randy doing a bit where he was supposedly going into a "bath house". I was only on that one for a bit. Then, the 93.3 signal cut out again and I checked out J&J. Only to find (appropriately priorly named) Perv Jer doing the cheesiest of bits. As mentioned by others, a very drawn (YAWN) out bit about taking relatives to the SDZoo and showing his BIL (or brother, that's how much attention I paid to it), some "Great Tits" - BIRDS, he built the whole bit up about animals at the zoo to go on and on about these "Great Tits" :puke: .

I was done with them almost 4 years ago, and no matter when I turn into them now, I know I made the right decision.

listener13

07-18-2007, 09:21 PM

Some of us have seen this one before, but for the new ones here that haven't, here is some more funny info on bhb Laura.

http://bedheadblonde.com/news/cain_pressrelease.html

If they formed the group recently, they could have called it Rehab 'Rita.......

Hey, wasn't one of Tommy's resolutions that he was going to stay away from women, booze, and eat well? So, maybe this woman isn't really a WOMAN? Or, do we think, perchance, that he's already broken one of his "rules for better living"?

And, who takes their kids and their new girlfriend to Vegas together? It's wrong to involve your kids with your "girlfriends" until you get to know them better and feel it will be a worthwhile relationship. So, does she get her own room, or are the kids in THEIR own room? Nice vacation for them......there's SO much for kids to do in Vegas:rolleyes:

Seriously, I hope those kids spend the bulk of their time with Dannell because she sounds like the only grounded parent in their lives.

Sapphie

07-18-2007, 10:07 PM

from Tommy's reply to GirlfromOR:...
I haven't drank in 5 years and I just don't like it

This from Tommy's blog,March 13th,2007, (not even 5 months ago, let alone 5 years)

My refrigerator BEFORE: juice boxes, beer, coke, sprite, Gatorade, fruit, water, root beer, cream cheese, beer, salami, turkey, roast beef, a left over pizza from the night before, beer, lasagna, a to go box from Roberto’s, and beer: You get the picture! ... My refrigerator NOW looks like it belongs to a skinny health nut that needs to eat a potato chip!

As I was putting things in to the refrigerator, I was throwing all the bad stuff out.

He mentions beer 4 times....it's possible, of course, that the beer wasn't for him....could have been for all his other "normie" friends.....

SDReadhead

07-18-2007, 10:36 PM

Two things:
1) Wow, it looks like Amused really is Dannell. Sorry that I doubted it, but I am so used to taking everything to do with the show with a huge grain of salt. Dannell, don't let him screw up your precious children. Use his blogs as evidence that he is unfit. He's a sexist pig and your children should not have to have the embarrasment of having their friends read their father's disgusting blogs.

2) Tommy hasn't had a drink in 5 years? Well, I was at the 1st "Thank You" party that J/J had two years ago and Tommy was so drunk that he could barely see straight. And he talked about how drunk he was on the show afterwards. He was so drunk that he didn't even know all of the people who were in and out of his room at the hotel and they had run up a room service tab that was astronomical. I don't care if he drinks, and I don't think all people who have ever been drunk are alcoholics. But I do wonder why he is making up stories about when he last drank alcohol. That thank you party was hilarious, by the way. They packed thousands of listeners into the ballroom and then they spent most of the evening in the smaller ballroom next door with their VIP guests which included the show's advertisers and sponsors. Every once in awhile they'd come into the main ballroom on the stage and do one of their pre-planned, rehearsed goofy gigs (like "Will Randy propose to Debbie, or give the ring away???") There were some appetizers available for free, and then everyone had to buy FREAKISHLY overpriced drinks at the bar. My sister (who was given two tickets from a neighbor who couldn't go at the last minute) and I had some great laughs that night. Jeff was orange. I am serious. His skin was orange. Not tan. Orange.

TGBM (Tommy's Grammar Bugs Me)

Sapphie

07-18-2007, 10:43 PM

SDReadhead:
TGBM (Tommy's Grammar Bugs Me)

I couldn't agree more!

Carol

07-19-2007, 08:00 AM

I am left feeling a little confused from this part of Laura's diary.

Tommy said to me that I need to get my head out of rehab. I know this is true, but I'm still kind of fresh out of the place. I still talk to these people.

I honestly don't see why she needs to get her head out of rehab, it is usually a healthy place for people, and a place where she has made friends who were there, who supported her, who were in the same place as her mentally, and physically, and who have been through many of the same experiences. Why would she need to "get her head out of rehab" Of all places to keep your head, keep your head in a place where you were clean and sober, keep your head in a place where you were supported to others. Don't let it hold you back from enjoying your life outside of rehab, but I don't see the harm on mourning over people who could not hold their own outside of rehab, or the loss of lives of the people who felt there was no way out of their addiction.

Everyone needs to move on after rehab, but if those people, and that place help keep her clean and sober, for the sake of her children and herself she should keep her head in rehab.

I dont see where Tommy gets off trying to tell her where her mindset should be. If having a brother who was/is addicted to drugs most of your life gives you the authority to tell people with an addiction what to do........then hey, maybe I should be telling Laura where her mind should be too....

listener13

07-19-2007, 08:21 AM

Tommy is in NO position to give ANYONE advice - he's a narcisstic egomaniacal womanizing hypocrite

Transplant

07-19-2007, 09:48 AM

OneKidOneDogMom

07-19-2007, 09:55 AM

Uggghhh...do I dare watch?

For those of us that work and can't watch - PLEASE DO!!!

And then report back here and tell all :)

Transplant

07-19-2007, 09:57 AM

I will (i work out of a home office)

and will post a link to the broadcast tomorrow (if it becomes avail):wavey2:

Transplant

07-19-2007, 10:03 AM

She's sitting at the table when they opened up...and SHE IS NERVOUS! Just wish she could have done her roots !!!

Transplant

07-19-2007, 10:15 AM

she said the alcohol and PILLS were ruling her life...and one morning she realized that she had a problem...

said her workers were aware there was a problem when she thought she was fooling them for years.

Now they're asking about the kids and hubby. She said the kids knew there "was something wrong with mommy and she had to go to a hospital"

She's telling about her marriage now...she says she's choosing not to say too much...and that the past few years were really hard on DaveCain.

RowdyOne

07-19-2007, 10:31 AM

She looked heavier and healthier (not so horsey). But it could have been my TV. Maybe that's why her boobs look bigger.

jjgumba

07-19-2007, 10:35 AM

I'm not buying the pill thing at all, somehow, that seems more socially acceptable I suppose--NO, my money still says meth, regardless if she had/has skin problems.

RowdyOne

07-19-2007, 10:37 AM

A link to the interview video might appear here within a day or so:

http://www.kusi.com/news/local

jjgumba

07-19-2007, 10:37 AM

I think she is in need of a new hairdresser since Cree presumably is a druggie too.

Transplant

07-19-2007, 10:49 AM

Aren't we all 'MEOWING"???? HA HA HA HA! (me included!)

Murriecula

07-19-2007, 10:49 AM

Another Long Time Lurker First Time Poster (LTLFTP)
Sorry this is so long ...
I have never been a fan of Laura – I find her shallow beyond belief. Her constant focus on being ‘someone’ and by that I mean being a ‘famous someone’, drove me nutty. She is a grown woman and yet her priorities were always on the superficial and not on anything with much depth. It is obvious she does and has always has loved her family, just again, not adjusting her life priorities to a more grown up standard for the family needs. I don’t think people should sacrifice themselves on the alter of family but I do think if you want a family you make choices for that and them and you adjust. Examples are schedules for sleep and food, choices of food, choices of entertainment – all aimed and ease for her and what she wanted. I raised two daughters on my own (no daddy helping) working and commuting. Skewed priorities and values and selfishness are characteristics I saw that bugged me.

But I don’t believe davecain is blameless. I got the impression he liked a party and enjoyed the perks of a ‘big deal in san diego’ wife. I know nothing of his infidelities or Laura’s and without some corroborating details Little comments on the board indicate there were on both sides.

Last – growing up with alcoholism – it is my belief that people are effected differently by substances, so the ‘disease’ description doesn’t bug me too much . I do not believe that things done under the influence are excusable because you were high. I think you are absolutly responsible for what you. (My dad smacked the boys and I don't ever make an excuse - he did it drunk or not). I agree with those that use the word ‘choice’. Also I don’t believe it is in the best interest of the family (children/spouse) to stay with an addict at all costs (Laura mentions vows but could have meant something else) because it COSTS A LOT FOR THOSE WHO LIVE WITH THAT CRAP and they have to recover in order to understand normal. I know this and attended ACA for a while to learn about the impact this had on my life. I think people drink and use because they are unhappy in their life and trying to escape. That is very general and because of that can’t be applied universally, but the people I know that are alcoholics or heavy drinkers tended to be unhappy and instead of dealing with it they turned to escape. Also when able to actually work on their life they often naturally slowed the drinking. Although the physical addiction is something else.

What is Laura escaping from. I think she wants to be perfect and look 25. By PERFECT I mean not just looks but perfect family, perfect everything. In failing that she escapes. So her recovery will (IMO) require acceptance of her life and working on being a contributing person and move beyond the shallow. A person all wrapped up in themself makes a pretty small package and also and empty one.

Enough rambling. Thanks.

Himmie

07-19-2007, 11:08 AM

I wonder how many weeks she spent trying to decide what to wear on KUSI this morning?

Ritchie

07-19-2007, 01:54 PM

But I don’t believe davecain is blameless. I got the impression he liked a party and enjoyed the perks of a ‘big deal in san diego’ wife. I know nothing of his infidelities or Laura’s and without some corroborating details Little comments on the board indicate there were on both sides.

I think someone on this board speculated about infidelities but there is nothing to support that.

It really annoys me that when couples split up they are quick to blame the man on messing around. Even when the woman messes around they blame the man for "driving her to it".

I give Dave a lot of credit for trying to take care of his kids. He left a dream job for them because Laura couldn't hold it together. I think maybe we should ease up on the infidelity rumor and cut him a little slack.

As for the kids, I tell you I laugh every time Boris says "monkey boy".

ordinarygirl

07-19-2007, 02:27 PM

here's the link to her clip on kusi:

http://www.kusi.com/news/insidesd/8603912.html

pax

07-19-2007, 02:31 PM

Just watched the clip of Laura on KUSI. I think she's addicted to caffiene now. She's so jittery!

yourmama

07-19-2007, 02:38 PM

..or could she be using something? you know to help get her thru the day, especailly with her best friend and keeper in Las Vegas?

pax

07-19-2007, 02:44 PM

She made it sound like she and Dave will be reconciling after a period of adjustment (since she's a "totally different person now").

Ritchie

07-19-2007, 02:51 PM

here's the link to her clip on kusi:

http://www.kusi.com/news/insidesd/8603912.html

In the clip she says (and I quote, including the "like" words):

"It got to the point one morning where I'm like I just want to die and I reached that point I just I'm going to kill myself like thinking that not really being serious but I was taken seriosly on that."

It sounds like she may have been under suicide watch or something before being shipped off.

yourmama

07-19-2007, 03:02 PM

In the clip she says that she thought about killing herself and she wasn't serious about it but she was taken seriously.

So it sounds like she may have been under suicide watch or something before being shipped off.

have not seen the clip yet, but sounds to me like Laura being her typically self centered self. seems like she was about to get in trouble (with Dave?) or was not getting enough attention, so she pulled the "I am going to kill myself" bit. My friend with SDPD said that the people who don't want to go thru with suicide state this for the attention, people who really want to go thru with suicide just does it.........

Ritchie

07-19-2007, 03:05 PM

I edited my above post to include the exact quote from her. She talks like a 13 year old girl.

san2can

07-19-2007, 03:06 PM

hmmm...I don't really buy that she's a totally different person. There has to be something that happened that made Dave leave. If she came back "all better" then why would he file the separation the day she came back from rehab.

sameome

07-19-2007, 03:12 PM

The title of the clip is Local Radio Personality "Beats" Addition, but does she?
Did Reggie actually interview her?

Murriecula

07-19-2007, 03:14 PM

If this has been going on for years then Dave has enough reason in that. Addiction in the family is distructive and at some point a relationship that is tortured can't be saved even by a last ditch 'rehab' attempt. Also he may have filed to keep her out of the house, set up structure related to visitation. Maybe safeguard assets -

Khaki454

07-19-2007, 03:31 PM

Another Long Time Lurker First Time Poster (LTLFTP)...

I moved from San Diego to attend college at Cal State San Bernardino, and was sad to know that I wouldn't be able to hear Jeff and Jer anymore because I was too far away...

Since I still live up here, I've heard their show a few times on my way back home to visit, and from the little bit I've heard, I'm glad I live too far away to listen on a daily basis.

I love everything I read on here - you are all so interesting!

GirlfromOR

07-19-2007, 05:19 PM

From Tommy's blog this morning:

I told the kids we could do anything they wanted to last night. SO, they decided to order room service all night and watch scary movies. I wake up this morning and go in the living room area and there's 3 different room service trays and I look at the receipts and Vanessa knew how to tip correctly and has my signature down pretty good. HMMM.

Why was Vanessa having to tip and sign the credit card receipts? Where was he? If he was there he would know what they ordered and he would be signing the slip himself. I'd assume so at least... Did he leave them unattended while he went out with that girl(or all of the hookers he's been mentioning)?

GirlfromOR

07-19-2007, 05:20 PM

Also, for someone who doesn't like the taste of alcohol, he sure talks about drinking a lot...

intriguedsd

07-19-2007, 06:21 PM

Just saw the clip from KUSI and all I got from it was that she is loving the attention.......hi, look at me, I'm Laura and I'm special because I went through rehab....like Brit & LiLo.

In her vulnerable state, what is she doing going to bars? People go there to drink and nothing else. Besdies, I don't buy the crap that her on air family has been so great. Besides Tommy, no one else seems to be there for her. Jer could give a rat's a^& about Laura. Don't know about the rest of the showgram, though.

pax

07-19-2007, 06:41 PM

In Tommy's defense, he could have actually been sleeping while his kids watched movies all night. I mean, why should he stay up all night, too? He knows where his kids are.

As for Laura, I actually feel a bit sorry for her. She seems so lost. Watching that clip from KUSI made me think she has a long, long, long road to recovery ahead of her. I hope she has a really good therapist who can help her grow up.

intriguedsd

07-19-2007, 06:54 PM

one more thing...when asked if it was difficult for her now, Laura said no...not like it was for other people. Riiiiiigggghhhhhhhtttt...being a recovering addict isn't hard. Go figure.

And yes, I also feel sorry for her. I feel sorry that she threw a great life down the drain. I feel sorry that her kids will forever be affected. I feel sorry that Dave will have to be a single dad. I feel sorry that there is one more broken home...all because she can't get it together.

Here's a theory: maybe Jerry drove to drink. I have it on good authority that he's quite the snobby jerk.

pax

07-19-2007, 06:59 PM

Tell us more, intriguedsd....

intriguedsd

07-19-2007, 07:04 PM

I'd like to know what Jeff and Jer think about all this...seeing as they are her bosses.

RowdyOne

07-19-2007, 07:10 PM

one more thing...when asked if it was difficult for her now, Laura said no...not like it was for other people. ...............Here's a theory: maybe Jerry drove to drink. I have it on good authority that he's quite the snobby jerk.
When she said that, perhaps she was thinking of her rehab-mate who committed suicide, and the MIA one who went back to heavy drinking and was in trouble with the law.

Jerry comes across on the air like a snobby jerk, especially when he tells his stories. I can't stand it at all. And there have been posts on this site by people who have met him in person and he was cold as ice.

listener13

07-19-2007, 09:23 PM

Just heard the promo for the 10 am showing on KUSI for InSide San Diego with "Join us for Inside San Diego where we will be joined by Laura Cain of the Jeff & Jer Showgram. We'll be talking about Laura's 90 day stint in rehab"

Uggghhh...do I dare watch?

Instead of using rehab as a life-changing personal experience, she's using it as a promotional vehicle for HERSELF. Someone needs to start a "me, me, me" rehab....there's gotta be 12 steps for that, too. She'd be the poster child.

Trixie

07-19-2007, 09:26 PM

I watched the video link and counted 144 times she said the word "like". That is gross, as in 12 step x 12 steps = 144 likes.

Okay, I didn't really count the times Laura said "like" but it was like she said it 144 times.

listener13

07-19-2007, 09:35 PM

When she said that, perhaps she was thinking of her rehab-mate who committed suicide, and the MIA one who went back to heavy drinking and was in trouble with the law.

Jerry comes across on the air like a snobby jerk, especially when he tells his stories. I can't stand it at all. And there have been posts on this site by people who have met him in person and he was cold as ice.

I met them both (alone with Pam and Nina) when they were at the other, other, OTHER station. I worked box office for the show that Jer had produced "Bless the Beasts" when it played at the Lyceum. He took everyone out after opening night to Bousalaccis (if that's how it's spelled). They were really new in town at this point, and weren't such a "big deal" - and "big deal Laura Cain" was no where in the picture. Anyway, I was an avid listener, and excited to meet them in person. I was also very interested in talking to Jer - I'm into animal rights (not a vegan, but I have worked at animal shelters as a volunteer)

Here's what I remember - they're phoney-baloney self-centered jerks. Jeff was a bit nicer and Jer, but you can tell that everything about them is "rehearsed and phoney". Pam was very nice, Nina was quiet - it was when she and Jeff were just getting together. Anyway, from then on, I listened, but I didn't think of them as celebrities or such a big deal anymore because they don't care about their listeners, no matter how much they tell us they do. It's all about the "dead presidents" for them.

longcommute

07-19-2007, 10:00 PM

I'm feeling very snarky tonight! Thanks for posting the clip. I can see why she's not on TV. I don't mean her physical attractiveness (which I personally think is just fine, even cute at times). I know she's nervous, but she has some very unpleasant repeated mannerisms that are really hard to watch. She sucks her teeth, flips her hair, and completely loses her neck at times. Then she shrug flips her hair and loses her neck even more. The hand gestures are so wild. The worst for me is the way she rolls her eyes up--constantly. I didn't realize she was a candidate for Kathy Lee's old job--no wonder she didn't get it!

Took awhile for them to get to the rehab bit, didn't it? I agree, sounds like she was put on a 5150 for danger to self (suicidal ideation) and hospitalized in a mental health unit (which would have modest security).

The part that bugged me the most is where she talks about how they learned in rehab addiction can be "just as hard on the spouse" and the family. DUH. Took her rehab to realize that? It's probably harder for them because you were anesthetized while everyone else got to experience your crap. She's been sober for 100 days or so but was using for years? So 100 days of feeling bad vs. years of crap they endured. Yeah, it is almost as hard on them as it is on you, Laura.

*edited to fix my typos*

Wabbitsd

07-20-2007, 08:48 AM

She has to have been an alcohlic for Y-E-A-R-S...since college days. Dave couldn't have NOT (like the bold AND the all caps?) known. They had been out of loose cash so many times it was a bit for her on the radio...did he not know where that was going? He's a big time enabler, it seems. I am glad someone decided to turn off the spigot and not let it go on for that whole family's sake.

SHAME on KUSI for arranging that interview! Laura may be all about "me me me" but for a TV station to try to tag team that is just disgusting. I can just hear the programming staff: "Hey, Paris did that interview with Larry King right after she got out of her stint in jail, maybe we can get some ratings by putting Laura on doing an interview, too!"

Dilbert-1985

07-20-2007, 09:12 AM

It was interesting to see Laura on TV yesterday.

Yes she seemed very nervous and fidgety (sp?).

I thought she was frustrated with Sandra Maas bringing up the "husband issue". It sounded strange for her to say that out of respect to Dave, she doesn't want to say much about him or their situation. Because first she said how addiction situations are hard on the family and a spouse, not just the "user". Then she said that she came back as a different person, so that's part of the reason they are not together now. That doesn't make much sense.

It also seemed strange that she told Sandra that she was at a point of hitting bottom, like she wanted to die, etc. and made that sound like the reason she went to rehab. Then Sandra asked the pointed question about what she said to listeners when she was leaving, and Laura had to admit she didn't say anything because she did not expect to have gone to rehab and disappear off the Showgram the way she did.

She has put on some weight but is hardly "fat". Tommy's blog said that Laura thought she looked fat on TV. Maybe it's just because she was so thin before.

yourmama

07-20-2007, 09:25 AM

I am so tired of Laura and her self centered ways and attitude. I am disgusted by the radio station and everyone else applauding her winning ways?! She is basking in all of this attention and glory like she just won the Nobel Peace prize! She was an admitted alchoholic and drug user for god's sake. She was made to go to re-hab and even said she was "shipped" off. I hope for her own sake that she remains sober, but I highly doubt that she will be able to remain clean. She has always been self indulgent and always needed instant gratification.

pax

07-20-2007, 10:10 AM

I'm disgusted that Laura told Tommy she looked fat on TV (she didn't look fat to me). What a messed up body image she has - she's probably ingraining her kids with these messages, too. So sad.

Dilbert-1985

07-20-2007, 10:17 AM

When she was at rehab at the beach, and the kids came to visit, Laura joked that little Evie will become a stripper because she just didn't want to wear her bathing suit. Yep there could be body image issues with Laura that might then affect her kids.

Who knows what goes through people's minds, but to go through a life changing (we hope) experience of rehab, and get to talk about it to thousands on TV, and her main reaction is that she looked fat on TV, well, what can you say. I hope she cares how she got across her message to people watching.

CrystalDoll

07-20-2007, 10:51 AM

Hi All!

Sorry if this is a bit late or off topic now. I'm been out of town for three days and haven't quite caught up with all the posts, but I needed to add my two cents:)

Tommy's addiction to meetings reminds me of the movie "Fight Club" where Edward Norton gets addicted to going to addicts meetings....just a thought

cheekymonkey

07-20-2007, 11:07 AM

He was very adament about correcting some statements he made in regards to flying someone in to Vegas with him. Hmmm, wonder why he is so defensive.----He must be reading this!!

And you guys are so right about the CAPS!!! They are random and now I laugh everytime I read it.

Tommy--STOP THE CAPITALS!!! GO BACK TO SCHOOL!!!

About Laura's interview...she looked just fine. She may have confided in Tommy about her looks, just like I would have done with my best friend, but my friend would never have spilled it like Tommy did. He should have kept his big fat blog mouth shut with that comment.

She has a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go, especially if she is already trying to tempt fate by going out to Del Mar on opening day at the races!!! How stupid? En Fuego? It's party central downtown Del Mar during the summer, let alone opening day.

I wish her well for her kids' sake. I hope she doesn't relapse, but most addicts--not all--will one time or another.

We will see....

Wabbitsd

07-20-2007, 11:36 AM

Hey, she's newly "single" in terms of the Del Mar Divorce crowd...no kids at home...no reson to be home at a certain time...why, it's almost as good as being back at school!

Dilbert-1985

07-20-2007, 11:48 AM

This is not good for her to think of herself and free and young and newly single.

She recently returned to her life and children after being in rehab. She needs to hold it together for her sake and the sake of her kids. She needs to try to get back to normal in her life, and she has 2 small children to think about. The last thing she should be thinking about is men. We don't know if Dave is permanently gone from her life, but it's hard to say that for her to hook up with a man is a good thing, at this point.

ca_girl

07-20-2007, 11:56 AM

I just have to say - I'm so sick of Tommy always talking about women. Everything has to do with women. He reminisces about a trip - he talks about a woman that went too. He talks about Jeff (Jer?) - whoever - going to Willie Nelson & that they got to go on the bus because of one of Tommy's "women". He talks about the pool & the women. The world does not revolve around women! Ok, it might (:winkie:), but do you need to talk about it ALL THE TIME?

He's got more issues than everyone I know & I know drug-addicts/alcoholics, & people in jail!

TBM more than LBM right now!

GTP Racer

07-20-2007, 12:06 PM

Once all the attention goes away in a few months and her husband hooks up with somebody else Laura will start drinking again.

texasmommy

07-20-2007, 12:41 PM

What the heck business does Laura have going to a BAR?? Oh us, and our diet cokes!!! WHATEVER!!

Wabbitsd

07-20-2007, 01:06 PM

Maybe what Tommy "Sees in Laura" is that she is like him in so many ways. They are both "good time parents." Not the custodial ones, not the ones who have to set bedtimes, make/enforce the rules...the parent who gets to be the fun one all the time..so they can just have the kids around when they want to do fun stuff...or just turn over the credit card (or as Tommy did, turn over the room service signing authority) and check out.

It creeps me out to read Laura's reports of the "cute" conversations with her two children...notice how both the kids ahve to work it so hard to convince her that they love her...that they are proud of her, that she's their best friend.
Children shouldn't have to be those kinds of crutches to their parents.

Dilbert-1985

07-20-2007, 01:12 PM

Well, I wish her all the best. But I wish she would take it all seriously.

As far as her being in bars, she met a friend from rehab and they went in the bar, but drank diet Coke. Do they teach you in rehab to avoid bars and temptation? She said in her beach rehab place, they sent them walking the streets by bars, and down the liquor aisle of supermarkets to teach them to leave it alone.

Anyway, I'm just saying, if her rehab taught her that temptation is everywhere and you have to be strong, maybe that's why she felt she could go in a bar but drink only non-alcoholic drinks. But then she said she felt strange in the bar. So there are inconsistencies in her stories.

And like Tommy said how strong Laura is, time will tell. Lotsa people relapse so we'll see.

mel41099

07-20-2007, 02:00 PM

The rehab place may have tried to teach them to avoid temptation in everyday life - passing liquor stores and aisles in the supermarket - places you would go in the normal course of life.
But to get dressed up and go to a bar in Del Mar AFTER the races were already over...and to blab it all for everyone (including Davecain) to know...sure doesn't sound like she's trying to put her life back together. She needs to change the behaviors that got her into trouble before - and STOP going to bars - whether she's going to drink Diet Coke or not.

And Tommy...blogging 3x's a day??? Get a life, please...instead of trying to convince us all that you have one.

2wheelermom

07-20-2007, 03:00 PM

longtimereader

07-20-2007, 03:40 PM

Hmmm... I'm thinking 2wheelermom is Kristen.

Ritchie

07-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Ritchie

07-20-2007, 04:04 PM

Once all the attention goes away in a few months and her husband hooks up with somebody else Laura will start drinking again.

That's true. She is so insecure that when Dave finds someone else who her own kids love, she will start to seek comfort somewhere else.

Also I saw the interview. Yes she did look fat.

insightbyjake

07-20-2007, 04:04 PM

[QUOTE=2wheelermom]Is there ANYTHING these people can do that you won't find fault with?QUOTE]

No.

But, when they start to show simple signs of "normal", we'll slow down a bit.

Dilbert-1985

07-20-2007, 04:13 PM

Well, everybody here does seem to find fault with the people on the Showgram.

It's an ensemble cast on the Showgram, with each character having their own unique personality. All can see that Jeff, Jerry, Little Tommy, Laura, and Randy all are unique personalities and have their quirks. In Laura's case right now, she's going through major life challenges, but in the best of times, she has her quirks of personality too.

BuzzBuzz

07-20-2007, 04:16 PM

Is there ANYTHING these people can do that you won't find fault with? I gotta laugh (as I'm sure they do) because it's way more entertaining than the actual show.

You hit the nail on the head 2wheelermom - the show is no longer entertaining.

listener13

07-20-2007, 04:17 PM

Is there ANYTHING these people can do that you won't find fault with? I gotta laugh (as I'm sure they do) because it's way more entertaining than the actual show. Tommy blogs too much; Tommy blogs too little; Laura drinks too much; Laura drinks diet coke; Laura's a bad mom cause she plays with her kids and takes them to movies; Laura's not taking rehab seriously cause she has the nerve to speak about it in public. Oh my God - it's hilarious! I'm just glad I'm not putting MYself out there every day for a living.

Seriously, you "rah rah" J&J people are making me a bit weary. Quit signing on with new names out of the blue and trying to change the tone of our forum. For the last time - this is NOT the "We love Jeff and Jer and the Showgram" forum - READ what the name of the forum is - perhaps you landed in the wrong place.

The Showgram and everyone on the Showgram bug us - why? Because they are talentless drones....somewhere along the way, an alien abduction happened - they took the OLD Showgram "talent" and replaced it with this "lack of talent". We long for the old days, but those days are gone. So, we amuse ourself with this forum.

Go team up with New Reader, Krusten, and the rest of the Showgram who post on here anonymously and go make your own "Little Mary Sunshine We Love the Showgram" forum. And we promise - we won't come on there and be negative about the show - why, because we won't have any interest in it.

cheekymonkey

07-20-2007, 04:27 PM

Oh my God - it's hilarious! I'm just glad I'm not putting MYself out there every day for a living.

Exactly!!! They draw people in, speak of ever so private things in a very public forum, therefore it's up for discussion! :wavey2:

RowdyOne

07-20-2007, 04:33 PM

Well, everybody here does seem to find fault with the people on the Showgram.

EXACTLY Dilbert (AKA fan or participant or spouse)... that's the whole point of this forum!! Does "J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread" give you any kind of clue??? This thread is more entertaining than the show, and I hope the showgram folks can take some of the criticism to heart. Looks like some already have, and the posters here know which ones.

mel41099

07-20-2007, 05:04 PM

Is there ANYTHING these people can do that you won't find fault with?

I thought that was the whole point of this forum???

Sapphie

07-20-2007, 06:01 PM

I watched the KUSI clip with Laura and Sandra Maas and the person who annoyed me most was the man, (don't know his name) who was co-interviewing....he kept rudely interrupting both women..I think the segment would have been better without him...JMHO

This may be a little off topic but it's something I really want to get off my chest and since this is a showgram forum it seems like the right place to vent...

I can't stand Randy Tiberius Hoag....I really think he bugs me more than any of the others....he is such a wuss. How old is he? 47? Still lives at home with his mom and dad, obsessed with Darth Maul (sp?)laughs like a pubescent boy at anything to do with farting, and worst of all he hero worships Jer...what the heck does Debbie see in him?....phew..I feel better now...Thanks!

cheekymonkey

07-20-2007, 06:54 PM

I watched the KUSI clip with Laura and Sandra Maas and the person who annoyed me most was the man, (don't know his name) who was co-interviewing....he kept rudely interrupting both women..I think the segment would have been better without him...JMHO

Joe Lizurra. He used to be on another channel and literally disappeared off the face of the earth. Maybe he did a "Laura".
:cheers:

He comes from the school of JEFF-MY OPINION AND EXPERIENCE RELATES TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING IN LIFE---interviewing 101.

Needless to say, every segment J&J announce that it will happen at 8a.m. is usually 9:35 because Jeff has to explain it over and over again.

Texasgirl

07-20-2007, 07:04 PM

I have been reading for quite awhile, but I haven't posted in a long time. Here are the ideas which have gathered in my head the past few weeks:

1. Did you notice something Tommy said recently? His kids came in and woke him up to see the awesome job they did TPing the neighbor's yard. How did he miss that his kids were not in the house for the time it must have taken them to do such an extensive job? Knowing kids, they were probably running in and out of the house hiding, getting more TP and shushing and giggling a lot. If they can get away with that and he is oblivious, it won't be long before they realize they can get away with doing more dangerous escapades. Dannell, you have a lot of power over the situation. Hang in there...

2. LBM in a thousand ways, but I still hold out a little bit of hope for her sobriety. My boyfriend was caught at work several years ago with an incredible amount of alcohol in his blood. To keep his job, he entered detox and rehab and stayed the full 90 day course. He faked his way through, but he was only going through the motions; I am sure he talked a good game when he went back to work. He eventually began drinking again and it got bad quickly. One night he woke up in a bar parking lot after having the crap beat out of him. It was only then that he was finally ready to start working the 12 steps for real. He has been sober since, still attending AA meetings several days a week. Now he is someone else's sponsor, which is much more rewarding than being drunk could ever be.

3. Yeah I am an alcoholic, too, sober for six months. I don't remember a time when I wasn't addicted to something. Pills, booze, sports, something. One of the things that gets me the most is how long friends and family knew what I was doing, yet never called me on it. Even having a lot of the same illusions Laura had (it isn't bad enough for anyone to see), I still knew deep down that almost every day there were clues which gave my secret away. But, I kept on because the consequences were not big enough to get me to stop. Finally, I guess I got to the point that my husband did. Not passed out in the parking lot, but finally realizing that there was not one single family member or friend that had not seen me trashed out and ugly or hungover. I had to quit before I got fired or arrested. So far, so good.

4. I hate the "throwing up" emoticon. Yuk!

Lipstick

07-20-2007, 07:25 PM

listener13

07-20-2007, 07:44 PM

Tommy's latest blog tonight says "BILL WALTON was on the plane with us coming back. It was a trip. They took out a seat so his legs would fit on the plane."

He said he was going to charter a plane for the Vegas trip. You know, so super dad could really show his kids how to live it up. He tells so many lies he can't keep them straight. My guess is that his "charter" was either Southwest or America West. What a loser.

Anyone can book themselves on a private jet - it's not cheap, but doable. Companies also lease out their jets through a jet clearinghouse service (my company has a corporate jet). It's kinda like taking an airport shuttle from a hotel - you'll probably end up with other people in the van, but it's cheaper for everyone. Like anyone on a commercial jet who would know who he is anyway......he's no George Clooney sitting in first class on United.

So, Mr. Bigshot got himself into a flying "airport shuttle", which Bill Walton was also on - big deal. Sounds like Tommy is great with pissing away his money. I'm sure it makes him feel like "Dad of the Century" to fly around in a private jet, buying his daughter expensive crap, etc. He's just raising future kids that are going to feel "entitled", unless Dannell has control of them (which I think, and hope, she is).

gossipgurl

07-20-2007, 08:37 PM

OneKidOneDogMom

07-20-2007, 08:47 PM

Tommy's latest blog tonight says "BILL WALTON was on the plane with us coming back. It was a trip. They took out a seat so his legs would fit on the plane."

I don't think Southwest is that accomodating - I can't imagine them taking out a seat!

Ritchie

07-20-2007, 09:17 PM

A reliable source told me he got fired from his other job for cheating on his wife--the company had a policy about this.

Your post made me laugh.

What company has a policy about that?

The lawyers would have so much fun suing the company that he could retire.

Gosh, some people are so funny when they quote anonymous "reliable" sources.

2wheelermom

07-20-2007, 09:37 PM

LOL. No, I'm not Kristen - but that's funny! I just got back from taking my sons to see Harry Potter and before I start working on my computer I thought I'd check back on this forum for fun. It IS fun, I have to say. I'm pleased to see the tidal wave of responses to my fairly simple post. Practically a stoning, thank you.

Unlike most of the contributors to this forum, my own criticism isn't quite so personal (ouch - another stone!). It's of the show itself. I think, clearly, they don't have the chemistry among themselves that they used to. Where they were once folksy, they've become self absorbed. They used to be able to connect with the city as a whole, but now they're simply - for lack of a better word - irrelevant. Maybe "stale" is another word to describe it - or maybe just plain "stupid" (Did I really hear them play "Guess the price of the tampons" or some such thing recently??). I think it's too bad, too, cause I've lived in a number of different cities and I'd never seen a morning program quite like this. My kids even used to like it. Now they think it's boring; my husband refuses to listen to them anymore; and I only listen as a last resort - less and less each passing month. Pretty soon I expect sponsors will start to agree.

I don't want to hear the sordid details of their personal lives. I honestly don't care. Don't we all have enough of our own?

It's like the movie "Jaws." The thing that made it so successful was the fact that you never really saw the shark. I just think we're seeing way too much of the shark these days.

Since this is just a personal attack forum (where apparently even innocent children aren't immune), I agree that I don't belong so I'll be on my way. But I've enjoyed my brief visit. Take Care!

gossipgurl

07-20-2007, 10:02 PM

Your post made me laugh.

What company has a policy about that?

The lawyers would have so much fun suing the company that he could retire.

Gosh, some people are so funny when they quote anonymous "reliable" sources.

The person that told me is in television (if you watch the news you see him) and use to work with him. They sign a contract before they are hired that they won't do things like get arrested, use drugs and alcohol and infidelity. I don't think it's so "funny" and considering my source, I know this is "reliable" information:) Lawyers can't sue if you break a contract:)

gossipgurl

07-20-2007, 10:03 PM

When I say use alcohol I mean get arrested for DUI or anything related. The affair is why he "fell off the face of the planet".

Ritchie

07-21-2007, 12:16 AM

The person that told me is in television (if you watch the news you see him) and use to work with him. They sign a contract before they are hired that they won't do things like get arrested, use drugs and alcohol and infidelity. I don't think it's so "funny" and considering my source, I know this is "reliable" information:) Lawyers can't sue if you break a contract:)

I'm still laughing. Not at the contract but the fact that you believe your "reliable" friend.

insightbyjake

07-21-2007, 12:33 AM

2wheelermom writes, "I don't want to hear the sordid details of their personal lives. I honestly don't care. Don't we all have enough of our own?"

I'd like to personally invite "2wheelermom" to shove one of her 2 wheels up her, phony, pretentious, "I'm just saying," ass.

No we don't all have enough of our own!! "We all" don't make millions of dollars a year doing the easiest job on the planet and still have time to f**k up our lives and the lives of others! Every one of the "showgram" player issues stem from the fact that the "stars" can not maintain balance and control in their lives.

The "sordid details" you bemoan, are mentioned every day on THEIR damn show!! They discuss the extremely difficult life of being wealthy, "normal people" with "normal" problems that WE actual normal people, DON"T HAVE!

I am sick and tired of the "they are just like us" bulls**t that you sycophants pour out while defending the mediocrity of small-town, self-professed, "big-deals."

This is a forum that bemoans CRAP disguised as "talent." The fact that you "chuckle" on occassion does NOT mean the team of "Hey, aren't we cool cause we keep it real" suck-ups are, in fact, worth their pay. This is a forum that advances the notion that the "talent" doesn't get to decide what is "talent."

The pathetic, "laugh-at-everything-Jerry-says" moron (played by Randy) does NOT indicate that the "over-the-hill-I'm-so-hip-with-my-salt-and-pepper-George-Peppard-wanna-be-hair-that-I-should-have-played-'In-Like-Flint'-cause-I-like-tits-and-talk-about- boning-my-wrinkled-fat-ass-wife-that-wears-far-too-much-make-up-to-cover-up-her-aging-La-Jolla-'needs-a-face-lift'-face-while-I-try-hard-to-convince-San-Diego-that-comedy-from-1970-is-still-'hilarious'-or-'you-don't-like-ice-cream'" is actually funny.

It indicates the show is dated, over-blown, CRAP, worthy of our disdain. "Don't listen!" cry the sycophants! This is not an option.

When the home team sucks, you don't leave----you boo! -- until the more talented replacements come on board. (Sadly, it begs the question, whatever happenned to Rick Moorten? Banished to afternoon dead-air for being funnier than the colective "stars.") If you funnier than the "stars" you move along. That's why Randy and Laura stay for year after year....no talent.

Move along 2wheel....find your solace at 96.5.

Sapphie

07-21-2007, 01:06 AM

Jake...you are too funny!.. :) You should have your own show!
(and I mean that sincerely...no sarcasm)

SDReadhead

07-21-2007, 02:40 AM

:wavey2: An open letter to Tommy:

Please stop using of when you should write have.

Thank you very much. Keep up the good parenting. JUST KIDDING.

srdude

07-21-2007, 03:32 AM

Joe Lizurra. He used to be on another channel and literally disappeared off the face of the earth.
I remember he used to be the weather guy on Ch. 7/39. I don't know what he's doing interviewing. I was kind of shocked to see that myself.

longcommute

07-21-2007, 05:55 AM

Hm. I don't watch local news so had no idea what you all were talking about. Just for giggles (and can't sleep), I googled Joe Lizura and guess he just returned from the dead recently after about a year's absence?
http://http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=76624.msg559181

And the charity golf tourney did occur last year (with a quote from Lizura):
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/09/28/news/columnists/jeff_frank/21_08_429_27_06.txt
"Lizura add: Many have inquired about Lizura's whereabouts since he left Channel 7/39 last spring. He stayed mum about specifics, just saying, "You never know where I'll be popping up. I'm alive and doing well. I had a nice summer off, but I can't be off forever.'"

and found this hilarious little post:
http://www.journalcommunity.com/entry.php?EntryID=66931
"whither Joe Lizura?
Category: Soapbox Rant 2006-06-21

I don't normally go for the blond blue eyed look on a boy. But Joe Lizura, AMS certified meteorologist, somehow earned an exception. He was beautiful, and seemed so nice. Probably too nice for me. Maybe I could corrupt him? I have been watching him on Channel 39/7 (39 on your old TV, 7 on cable) for years now. He might be responsible for me tuning into the local news more often than I would have admitted to.
Suddenly, and without warning or provocation, he was no longer on my television. Was it a vacation? It is summer after all. I noticed his absence because he was the only reason I watched the news. In his stead they have this woman, Pat Brown, who is nice enough. She seems too nice, the nice that neglects heartache by smiling so large that she can't see over her own cheekbones. She talks about the weather on Sunday as it relates to you going to church. I don't go to church, and her Sunday forecast seems to accuse me. What I really don't like about her is she gets wet for temperatures over 85. One reason I love this place is the climate. It's supposed to be perfect, and perfect is supposed to be moderate. 85 is too high. "What a beautiful day in Borrego Springs at 107 degrees." "Another nice day in Chula Vista at 92." Let me tell you, 92 degrees in Chula Vista is not a nice day.
There was a blurb in the paper about my Joe. It said he came in one day and cleaned out his office. There were no announcements, simply a removal of his picture from the station's website. What could have happened to poor Joe? Was he going through a rough divorce (mmmmmmmm.. are you single now? are you blond all over?)? Did he need to move back to his home town in New Jersey for family reasons? Was he (shudder!) about to be indicted for child pornography saved on the Doppler 7000 computer's hard drive? Did he ask for a raise that they didn't want to give him?
Whither Joe Lizura? My propensity to watch the news will definitely wither without him."

Here's the vague UT link about his departure:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060607/news_lz1c07broad.html

longcommute

07-21-2007, 06:08 AM

Tommy's Blog: "it was well worth the money spent, because the kids kind of learned how to travel and how to be at a hotel and how to see a show and stuff like that and we talked about FAMILY stuff that was worth more than cash."

Worth a couple thousand? Couldn't you have talked about family stuff at home around the kitchen table? If he was really concerned that his kids need to learn how to be at a hotel and stuff he could have taken them to a Motel 6 for the night right here in San Diego. Seems to me he just showed them yet again how to waste money and live without boundaries. How does his mind work to justify a short trip to lurid Las Vegas as a worthwhile exercise in good parenting and quality family time?

And BTW Tommy, Eddie needs to wear his protective gear more often. The video of him skating shows him without helmet and pads more than with. He's only 10. A conk on the head is the last thing this kid needs. It's not safer because he's right in your front yard (which is such an eyesore--I would hate to be your neighbor).

Wabbitsd

07-21-2007, 07:06 AM

Oh thank GOD Tommy got in a lesson for his kids about traveling and staying at a hotel. For sure, young kids ought to have a weekend at a Vegas casino under their belts by the time they are 12. Thankfully, he was not just trying to prove to his kids that he was a "BIG DEAL." Now, he has done the "I'm a Big Deal, I stayed a the expensive hotel at Disneyland" before...I'm sure his "vacations" for the kids are all centered around activities he wants to do...so they will all know he is a "Big Deal." I bet he gets some kind of slot machine for his home pretty soon. Won't the kids (ok, their dads) on the block be jealous then?

He's got so much dough to toss around, why doesn't he send his kis on a student ambassador tour of cities in Europe? Why not to the nation's capitol? Oh, yeah. to Vegas. That center of reality and self-importance, and so very much there for kids. They could learn to travel, stay in hotels, appreciate different culture...oh, sorry, Tommy, is "culture" a big word? Or is it important that the kids see you tossing money around, and the resulting sycophania that comes with it? "Oh, yes, Mr. Sablan. Indeed, Mr. Sablan. Only the best, Mr. Sablan...thanks for the C Note, Mr. Sablan...." then as Tommy and his crew fade out of sight, "What a total wanna-be jerk that guy is...."

That's a big relief. Just in case he wants to send them up to Hollywood on a "private jet" flight when he can't make it cause he's waking Cowles Mountain and they have a line on a good party with Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lophan. Oh, hold on a sec. Laura would probably be on the same plane! She probably knows some rehab buddies who lucked out and did their time with some of the support staff for those two!

TwoWheeled...get off. get a life, begone with you and your coven of Krusten and New Reader and your other screen names.

The saddest thing about this for Laura is what TexasGirl mentioned: that if folks know and don't step up and call you on it, are they really your friends and loving family? Remember Laura bemoaning folks she thought were her friends were evidently not? I wonder who made the call so she had to be "shipped off" to rehab. That person is her one true friend...sounds like even her family has used her situation as an excuse to take the kids to Disneyland or something.

The barfing icon bugs me too. I can honestly say I have never used it before coming to this forum. Now, unfortunately, it seems all too appropriate for most of the program members.

Trixie

07-21-2007, 07:57 AM

Shouldn't Laura have gotten (and be bragging) about her 100 days sober coin?
It was a few weeks ago she got her 90 day award. These tokens should be motivating and important to anyone going thru recovery.

gossipgurl

07-21-2007, 09:19 AM

Your post made me laugh.

What company has a policy about that?

The lawyers would have so much fun suing the company that he could retire.

Gosh, some people are so funny when they quote anonymous "reliable" sources.

I have no idea to doubt my reliable friend, who is very reliable, in fact since he worked with Joe for several years. You can stop responding because you obviously have your mind made up that no one but yourself is right.

gossipgurl

07-21-2007, 09:21 AM

I'm still laughing. Not at the contract but the fact that you believe your "reliable" friend.

Read Longcommute's last link, Ritchie:)

gossipgurl

07-21-2007, 09:22 AM

I'm still laughing. Not at the contract but the fact that you believe your "reliable" friend.

Read Longcommute's last link, Ritchie:wavey2:

longcommute

07-21-2007, 11:29 AM

Read Longcommute's last link, Ritchie:)
Maybe you should read the last link. NBC cited a "personnel" issue, not a personal issue. According to the article, he told his co-workers he was working on his house. Doesn't mention firing, his contract, his wife, a divorce, an affair or anything that you were implying. And I'm with Ritchie--how can a work contract regulate who you marry/date/have sex with? And even if that was in a contract (moral conduct), how could that be enforced?

listener13

07-21-2007, 02:12 PM

He's got so much dough to toss around, why doesn't he send his kis on a student ambassador tour of cities in Europe? Why not to the nation's capitol? seems all too appropriate for most of the program members.

Tommy's got the "I grew up poor in Chula Vista" crap going on, so he tries to make up with it and spoil his kids. But you're right, somehow I made it into my early 20's without having been given the lesson of "this is how you tip in a five-star hotel" lesson, and, I made it through ok. Seriously, I think it's all to just show everyone how fantastic a parent he is, and how good to his part-time kids he is. Whatever - he's raising them to be just like him - shallow. I don't know Dannell, but I hope she's more grounded than him (and due to the fact that they're divorced, I think she is).

And, you're right - there's plenty of "real" lessons kids can learn from life. Why not have them volunteer their time at an animal shelter or with a fantastic charity like "Camp Beyond the Scars" that is sponsored by the Burn Institute - a day with those kids, and you learn quickly how to be humble and just how lucky some people are, and how some people don't NEED to have all the best in life to be happy to be alive. Instead of building them skateboard ramps, why not help in building houses with Habitat for Humanity. Whatever - shallow is as shallow does

Dannell - God Bless You......

Joe Lizura - interesting. I wondered what happened to him. After watching the weather with Pat Brown, I need an insulin injection. And that Shawn Styles on Channel 8 - why does he always look like he hasn't slept in about 2 weeks, and he's been wearing the same clothes the whole time? He's a male Laura - the frathouse never closes, I guess.

gossipgurl

07-21-2007, 02:37 PM

Maybe you should read the last link. NBC cited a "personnel" issue, not a personal issue. According to the article, he told his co-workers he was working on his house. Doesn't mention firing, his contract, his wife, a divorce, an affair or anything that you were implying. And I'm with Ritchie--how can a work contract regulate who you marry/date/have sex with? And even if that was in a contract (moral conduct), how could that be enforced?

When someone leaves a job suddenly, without explanation, there is obviously more behind it. I know for a fact that what I said is true and could care less if you believe it or not. Have you heard any other reason for his sudden firing? If my "reliable" source hadn't work with Joe Lizura I wouldn't feel so confident. An employer can put anything they want in a contract.

cheekymonkey

07-21-2007, 02:38 PM

And that Shawn Styles on Channel 8 - why does he always look like he hasn't slept in about 2 weeks, and he's been wearing the same clothes the whole time? He's a male Laura - the frathouse never closes, I guess.

ROTFLMAO!!!! I always crave Roberto's in Carmel Valley and want to rent "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" after I watch Shawn Styles on the news.

hmmmm, I always wondered if he was a consultant on that movie.....

RowdyOne

07-21-2007, 03:39 PM

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RowdyOne

07-21-2007, 03:41 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!! I always crave Roberto's in Carmel Valley and want to rent "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" after I watch Shawn Styles on the news.

hmmmm, I always wondered if he was a consultant on that movie.....
OK, now that people outside the showgram are fair game, how about John Coleman on KUSI? I'd use the barfing emoticon here but I hate that even more. If I make a mistake and have Ch 9 on and Coleman comes on with his k-EEEEEWWWWW-s-i, I freak out and I hear it in my head for the rest of the day.:bigmouth:

Wabbitsd

07-21-2007, 04:13 PM

Ok. let's say Joe L. was fired for "infidelity." It would have to have been him with a boss, or him with someone who worked for him. I can't imagine any "Entertainment" enterprise trying to enforce a morals clause outside of sexual harrassment in the sense of manager and subordinate.

But who knows. he's back, so maybe he won the hush hush lawsuit.

To bring this back on topic, do we think Joe L. parties at Tommy's house?

Jaybeez63

07-21-2007, 06:18 PM

I wish Tommy would stop using JUSY KIDDING as a means to excuse his sexist remarks.

Also what is up with HOLY BALLS...was he traumatized by a Priest?

Parallel story: Bree Walker Lampley and Steve Lamply had an affair before marriage, didn't one of them lose their job from that newstation? Bree also checked into Alcohol Rehab this year and was a Radio DJ on a morning show in the '70's.

listener13

07-21-2007, 07:41 PM

longcommute

07-21-2007, 08:51 PM

I'm fuming MAD.

From Tommy's blog yesterday:
"I'm still not understanding the money raising thing. I can get the $2,500 or so if needed, but I don't feel good about asking listeners or posting a link to 'sponsor me' to go. I don't like the idea of asking listeners or friends or family for money for something like that. Quite honestly, we help you go. So, I pulled the site off the 3 day thing and I want to refund what was donated. I had no idea my little site was added on to the 3 day network, but we pulled it, I HOPE by now."

AUGH! Tommy lives in backwards-ville. He decides now is the time for modesty? This is the onetime I wish Tommy would work his quasi-celebrity status/contacts to raise as much money as possible, not just the minimum required to join the event. This is the one time when his flirting, business contacts, long-term friendships and blogging can really pay off for a greater good. Tommy, why are you not trying to raise money for a very worthwhile charity? The 3-day is about a lot more than training and getting in shape, meeting new people and all the touchy-feely aspects of fighting for a good cause. THE CAUSE NEEDS MONEY--that's the main underlying point of the event. What is wrong with you??? You've turned this into an event about you instead of walking for Mattie and others fighting breast cancer. DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE FOR THE CAUSE AND RAISE THE MONEY. You're shameless in practically every other aspect of your life, why stop now?

From today's blog:
"I'm taking the HIGH ROAD when it comes to "them" wanting me to get permits and pay fees, etc. and they do mean well, but I don't know, I better change the subject."

50-100+ people per weekend tramping around Torrey Pines together and you're upset that they want a permit to help maintain and protect the environment? It's not a paved highway, it's a nature preserve. If you don't like it, find a new place to walk, or scale back the number of people.

Wabbitsd

07-21-2007, 08:56 PM

Tommy probably fears all his "contacts" won't come through for him...

mel41099

07-21-2007, 09:36 PM

I know Dannell already confirmed this, but this line from Tommy's blog today is so obvious Laura is living there...

Laura's getting ready to go to a birthday party with Charlie and THAT GIRL is coming over for a few hours. Eddie is skateboarding outside and Vanessa is at her friends house.

cheekymonkey

07-22-2007, 01:35 PM

Because I'm stuck in the house today and super bored...

From Tommy's latest blog:

Jerry wants Laura to mention that thing on the air at 7am Monday. It’s no big deal, but it will allow us to talk or write about EVERYTHING in these blogs, instead of saying to ourselves, “can’t say that yet”…….It’s NOTHING major at all, but I think it’s funny.

So let's take some bets on the 7 a.m. announcement. With Jeff "blah blah" droning on and on about the set up, I think we won't hear the actual announcement until Tuesday at noon. Jeff has got to be on the same, if not more, annoyance level as Tommy and his capitals on the blogs.

Nothing major, so why is it an announcement? Oh well, lots of discussion for manana, possibly?
Have a great day!

listener13

07-22-2007, 01:54 PM

Tommy probably fears all his "contacts" won't come through for him...

That's EXACTLY right - he's afraid that he's not going to produce the $$$$$ - but, it's absolutely true - this isn't about YOU, Tommy. It's about all of the men and women battling with breast cancer - some have won, some (like my mother and my aunt), have not. Quit making this about YOU and put your freaking donation site back online.

Maybe even do something noble - maybe MATCH what you raise.....instead of blowing your money on 18 room service orders in Vegas - and hey, did you know that there were actually RESTAURANTS in Vegas - you don't have to order room service! It's a new thing to you, I'm sure, but walk out of the hotel and boom, there they are!

We CHALLENGE you to do the right thing......are you up for it?

listener13

07-22-2007, 01:59 PM

From Tommy's latest blog:

Jerry wants Laura to mention that thing on the air at 7am Monday.

What makes you think that Jerry will be there one day after his vacation ends? We're going to hear that he got "stuck in Italy" and won't be back until Wed.....mark my words. How many times has he done that? I travel more than he does, and I've never gotten stuck in Italy (or any foreign country, even during 9/11)

cheekymonkey

07-22-2007, 02:09 PM

What makes you think that Jerry will be there one day after his vacation ends? We're going to hear that he got "stuck in Italy" and won't be back until Wed.....mark my words. How many times has he done that? I travel more than he does, and I've never gotten stuck in Italy (or any foreign country, even during 9/11)

Ah, didn't even think about that. I do beg to differ on the 9/11 thing. We owned a travel agency at that time and EVERYTHING was at standstill. Definitely not for the length of time he took, wasn't it an additional 2 weeks to get back? But for some time.

And ditto on the fund raising comments. It isn't about him but of course it will always be about him. Sad, very sad.

Lipstick

07-22-2007, 03:17 PM

As I mentioned on July 12, I bet the NO BIG DEAL ANNOUNCEMENT will be that Laura is living with Tommy.

Because I'm stuck in the house today and super bored...

From Tommy's latest blog:

Jerry wants Laura to mention that thing on the air at 7am Monday. It’s no big deal, but it will allow us to talk or write about EVERYTHING in these blogs, instead of saying to ourselves, “can’t say that yet”…….It’s NOTHING major at all, but I think it’s funny.

So let's take some bets on the 7 a.m. announcement. With Jeff "blah blah" droning on and on about the set up, I think we won't hear the actual announcement until Tuesday at noon. Jeff has got to be on the same, if not more, annoyance level as Tommy and his capitals on the blogs.

Nothing major, so why is it an announcement? Oh well, lots of discussion for manana, possibly?
Have a great day!

threedog

07-22-2007, 05:30 PM

listener13

07-22-2007, 06:20 PM

However, this message blog though is addictive. I cannot stop reading and even posting.

It's sad that we HAVE to do it, but this forum is entertaining!

RowdyOne

07-22-2007, 06:26 PM

I'm almost ready to give Laura a pass. I think it is great that she can overcome something so terrible and difficult. Though, if she and the show continues to use it as a publicity stunt it will only hurt her and her family and turn me off of her even further.

I cannot stand listening to the show, mostly because of Jerry and now also because of Tommy's blogs. They are both pigs. Sorry, but they are. The show is contrived and boring and insulting.

However, this message blog though is addictive. I cannot stop reading and even posting.

You are so right about the show being contrived, boring and insulting. But I still hold out hope that the showgram folks can pay attention to us and return to "real" although they've probably exhausted all their connections to authenticity. Sad. I hope Laura's announcement tomorrow, whatever it may be, is delivered in a straightforward, succinct, and honest way, without any hour-long build-up and without the usual hesitations, angst, qualifications, etc. Let it be. Are you paying attention, producer Tommy? :wavey2:

GirlfromOR

07-22-2007, 08:16 PM

I think that if it is them living together, that really is no big deal, because he's pretty much said it over and over in his blogs. They have both hinted to it.

About the fund raising: I couldn't resist emailing Tommy and here is what the conversation was.

My comment:
comments: What do you mean you aren't understanding the money raising thing? You do know that the Three day is a fund-raiser, right? It is not just one of your normal walks. People aren't doing it for you. People are walking for their mothers, sisters, aunts, friends, daughters... It is a struggle for most people to come up with $2500, but they do it in honor of a loved one. You say you've changed and are a good person. So why do you want a refund? Why don't you want to see this thing through? I'm sure Mattie is so proud...

His responses (yes, plural)
1) You didn't understand what I mean knucklehead. I'm not understanding the money raising thing on HOW I DO IT. I already put in 10 grand of my own money for friends to walk. I am not understanding of the links and sites to ask for money. I'm not an idiot!

2) REFUND? I meant refund to the people who donated money for me to walk. I do not want to ask money from listeners. I have 4sponsors. Do you get it now?

3) I already refunded the money and they understand and will re-donate it to someone who needs the assistance to walk.
(I told him that I didn't think he should refund the money to the listners who donated because I would have been offended if he had given my donation back).

I think I pissed him off... Haha.

mel41099

07-22-2007, 08:19 PM

WOw. what a rude tone he used...

1) You didn't understand what I mean knucklehead. I'm not understanding the money raising thing on HOW I DO IT. I already put in 10 grand of my own money for friends to walk. I am not understanding of the links and sites to ask for money. I'm not an idiot!

Wabbitsd

07-22-2007, 08:27 PM

Interesting. $10K of his money? Maybe the station's money?

pax

07-22-2007, 09:08 PM

I think $10K is pocket change for Tommy.

listener13

07-22-2007, 09:09 PM

Tommy states: I'm not an idiot!

Well, clearly you ARE because thousands of people participate in this walk, and somehow THEY figure out how to work the donation process. Maybe I'M the idiot, but I would ask for help from the fundraising site's technical folks.

I can't believe how rude he was to you - that also makes me think he's an idiot. You're one of his "listeners" and they claim to love their listeners - so WHATEVER.

Also - the intent of the fundraising is also to raise AWARENESS. People become aware by donating. You take away that mechanism and give all the money yourself, you lose visibility to the charity entirely. And, it's the lazy way out. I have more respect for the struggling Moms out there who JUST make their goal than the $10K from someone who either put it in themselves, or have a "deep pocket" like a radio station put it in. I don't doubt that it's his money, but again, I challenge him.......

Tommy: Put the fundraising site back up, and MATCH what you get. Also - on your freaking blog - why don't you raise awareness that way. Honestly, I don't think you know one thing about this charity, it's goals, it's mission. You're using it as another stunt.

cheekymonkey

07-22-2007, 09:18 PM

OMG!!! Last Christmas I had emailed Tommy about a donation for breaking and entering. Anyway after a couple of questions on what was needed or what I could donate he called ME a knucklehead and stated I didn't "understand" and he declined my donations. I sent it to Toys for Tots.

Thinking I was the one who did something wrong I feel vindicated IT WASN'T ME!!!

HOLY BALLS TOMMY SABLAN IS THE BIGGEST JOKE AND BIGGEST IDIOT WITH AN IQ OF 2!!!! :dead:

Where does HE get off calling people knuckleheads and belittling them??

What a dickhead. :bandit:

Ritchie

07-22-2007, 09:26 PM

I have no idea to doubt my reliable friend, who is very reliable, in fact since he worked with Joe for several years. You can stop responding because you obviously have your mind made up that no one but yourself is right.

Relax gossipgurl. Save that energy for bashing Laura.

Seriously, I don't want to get in a fight with you about this but I find it very unlikely that a person in TV can be fired for cheating. If that were the case then half of the news anchors would be leaving their stations every other day.

Perhaps he was cheating, but that most certainly was not a reason for being fired.

Of course if you can find such a case, please let me know. I'll issue a full apology.

GirlfromOR

07-22-2007, 09:51 PM

Yeah, I was kind of rude to him but geez, he shouldn't name call. Why participate in a fund raiser if you don't have an interest in raising funds and awareness for the disease and the research involved in looking for a cure. I really feel like Cheekymonkey... it is insulting to decline someone's donation. I didn't offer to donate, but I'd imagine that the people who DID feel like their money was worthless to him.

I think that he is using the Three Day as a publicity stunt and it is disgusting. Some people plan and fundraise for an entire year in order to make this walk in honor of a loved one. Some of those walkers are actual people suffering from cancer themselves. I think that for Tommy to use this as a publicity stunt (which is all it is to him) degrades the purpose behind the walk and its value to other people.

Does anyone know who Maddie is and what she has to do with Tommy? How did she inspire him?

listener13

07-22-2007, 09:58 PM

I think that he is using the Three Day as a publicity stunt and it is disgusting. Some people plan and fundraise for an entire year in order to make this walk in honor of a loved one. Some of those walkers are actual people suffering from cancer themselves. I think that for Tommy to use this as a publicity stunt (which is all it is to him) degrades the purpose behind the walk and its value to other people.

You're absolutely right - it is a stunt. But, he has the ability to raise awareness for this disease, and he's throwing it in the toilet. What a waste. He could do SO much, and he's choosing to do so little.

GirlfromOR

07-22-2007, 10:28 PM

I agree. I'm sure a lot of celebrities use charity events for publicity, while still raising awareness for the cause itself. He's willing to do it to the point that it serves him, but no further. His participation makes him look good, so why bother raising public education on an illness... He definitely could do great things with his connections and his presence in San Diego, but doing that does nothing for him, so why would he.

OneKidOneDogMom

07-22-2007, 10:51 PM

Does anyone know who Maddie is and what she has to do with Tommy? How did she inspire him?

Mattie is a singer from The Heroes. They are the ones that do all the songs for J&J and have played at the parties they throw....

I found this website:

http://musicformattie.com/

People like Mattie are the reason for the 3-day. Tommy should KNOW this (sorry for the caps!)

insightbyjake

07-22-2007, 11:48 PM

THIS JUST IN....ADVANCE COPY OF MONDAY"S SHOW.......

Jeff: "We're back! We've just completed week 4 of 2007's vacation schedule and today's game is, "Who did WHAT on their vacation?"

Jer: "This is how it works, we tell you what each person did, and you tell us who the person was who did what they did," "Once again, we tell you what we did, and you, after listening to what each person did, tell us what person did what each person did. That way, after telling us what each person did, you can tell us what each person did. Then when you tell us what each person did, Tommy will dig into the booty locker."

Randy: "Debbie and I went to Disneyland!!"

Jer" "Okay numb-nuts!!! Wait until I finish the set-up that describes how this bit talks about what each person did, while we figure out what what each person did because that's what the next bit describes...what each person did while each person was doing it."

Jeff: "Our family trip was all about the kids. We took Mark and Laura, and Elizabeth, and Ruth, and Elijah, and John and Matthew and Samuel I and Samuel II and Revelation and both Corinthians, and Peter and Exodus and Leviticus and the dogs, Psalms and Proverbs, and went to Pismo Beach where we attended the "Green Weekend for Christ" conference driving our 40-foot trailer, Ford, "bigger-than ****- truck," six four-wheelers and dune-buggies for Jesus."

Laura: "Speaking of Jesus, Charlie said the most Gospel-like thing last week!! He looked at naked Evie and said, 'As you sow, so shall you pee!' We laughed all weekend at his over-bite talent!"

Tommy: "I saw some 'talent' in Vegas!! I saw 57 tits!! I told Eddie they were natural means of feeding children...and then told Vanessa to cover them up forever!! It was the best way for me to show my kids what family is all about. Nothing says family like gambling and tits!"

Jeff: "I just finished a three-day seminar at my church on why breasts are the devil's two-tools-for-destruction."

Jer: "Did you say breastuses? I love those twins!!! Pam has some...." "Did I tell you about the sex we had in Italy?"

Laura: "Little Italy??? I went there with my friends to a bar hosting an 'all-you-can'drink'contest,' we had diet-cokes and laughed at the drunk people who acted like losers. The sad thing is 32 of my rehab partners have crashed this weekend."

Jeff: "Losers is a pejorative term. My church likes to use the term, 'people not really able to avoid frying in hell'"

Jer: "So, our first-class seats were taken by some meat-eating, republican, homo-phobes.....we opted to take a hot-air balloon ride with Dali Ramashinkuryopu to Outer-Tibet, where we distributed erasers to children who have yet to see pencils. We felt this would be a significant contribution to their future as writers. Have I shown you my 'Nickels and Dimes' play?"

Randy: "I saw the Darth-Mol clip before he was a 'Mol" video!"

Tommy: "Does anyone want my ommelette?"

Laura: "My babies still remember my name!!!! It's Momma!!! They love me so much!!."

Jeff: "We'll be back in 16 minutes to find out who went to the Pope's 65th birthday party? Here's a hint....it wasn't Debbie!!"

ALL: "HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHA..."

surfing_texan

07-23-2007, 03:45 AM

I want to hear Jake on the air every morning!

FormerSanDiegan

07-23-2007, 05:05 AM

I'm new to posting but have been reading for a looooong time. I just had to post after seeing what insightbyjake wrote. That was one of the funniest things I've read! I agree - can we put him on the radio? :)

Smitty

07-23-2007, 05:55 AM

I guess Jeff's ex-wife didn't win the title again this year. I also didn't realize she had retired from the game. I'm sure it won't get any airtime so here it is:

"After emerging from the losers bracket, Ryno's recorded wins of 10-0 and 10-1 over the Beachcomber's team that included Lisa McGowan and Nina Detrow from last year's title team along with newcomer Jenny Mays. "

"Detrow rejoined McGowan on Beachcomber's for the tournament's second weekend as an injury replacement for Wendy Tapper after initially retiring this year.

This was the first tournament title for Romano since 1999, when she played on the same team with Detrow and McGowan.

“We're all friends,” Romano said. “We all play softball and have a lot of fun together.”

Wabbitsd

07-23-2007, 06:50 AM

Jake! LOL! That's great! Especially love:

Jeff: "Our family trip was all about the kids. We took Mark and Laura, and Elizabeth, and Ruth, and Elijah, and John and Matthew and Samuel I and Samuel II and Revelation and both Corinthians, and Peter and Exodus and Leviticus and the dogs, Psalms and Proverbs, and went to Pismo Beach where we attended the "Green Weekend for Christ" conference driving our 40-foot trailer, Ford, "bigger-than ****- truck," six four-wheelers and dune-buggies for Jesus."

Ritchie

07-23-2007, 07:08 AM

The big news, Laura has taken over Tommy's house.

Wow. That was real big news.

pax

07-23-2007, 07:33 AM

Well done, insightbyjake, well done. Keep it up!

momofthree

07-23-2007, 07:55 AM

Just finished reading Tommy's blog explaining the "big announcement". Boy, is he an egomaniac and braggard as well! "I sent a limo for her and she came straight HERE and then saw her children." He is always injecting himself into everything (pun intended, hee hee), and now he is putting himself before Laura's children.

Also, he is continually denying that anything is going on between him and Laura, all I can say is Tommy doth protests too much, methinks.

SadSadSad

07-23-2007, 07:58 AM

I realized I like this site for the same reasons I like "The Soup" and "Best Week Ever". You don't have to watch (or listen) to all the boring crap you just get the highlights of what stupid people have done plus you get the insight of people who are actually funny and they're take on it.

Meanwhile now that THE PIG and THE ADDICT have confirmed they are living with one another I guess we'll not be "entertained" with weird-should-keep-it-to-themselves intimate details about each others day to day living habits. Can't wait.

Carol

07-23-2007, 08:08 AM

Im telling you, this is just a lead up to the...

"JEFF!!!!!! Okay, well I don't know what to say, I CANT BELIVE YOU ARE MAKING ME SAY THIS (insert nervous giggle). IM SO CONFUSED, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY (insert another nervous for good measure)Okay, umm...okay..so here is what has been going on. We didn't plan for this to happen (insert annoying giggle), but Tommy and I (instert yet another obnixious giggle) have fallen in love."

...announcent to be made by Laura. I give it 8 months or until Laura's divorce is final.

I fricken HATE how Laura acted like she was so g*d damn confused about what she was supposed to say. The show had already been planned to the T, all the bits had been made up, all the fake callers had been scheduled in, yet, she still made the choice to act like a worthless ditz, instead of steping up to the plate and acting like an adult who could communicate at an adult level, not like a 13 yr old girl.

Carol

07-23-2007, 08:24 AM

Sorry for the double post...

Meanwhile now that THE PIG and THE ADDICT have confirmed they are living with one another.

Im confused, who is the pig, and who is the addict? :naughty:

apossible

07-23-2007, 08:31 AM

I'm driving into work this morning and remembered that the "crew" were coming back from vacation. I thought "well, maybe, just maybe they will have something intelligent to talk about". Hell no, the whole build up to Laura having something funny, well it's not really funny, well it is kinda funny, and so on and Tommy having to put his two cents into it, and the whole lead up to that Laura is living with Tommy. Well of course, Tommy felt a need to have this aired since he reads all that is posted here and wanted to "clear the air". And Laura having to say she did not have a boob job. The whole "crew" are so shallow and immature. I turned off the station immediately.

Who can this thread be sent to that can read what is written here to realize that the showgram is losing listeners by the dozen and get rid of those idiots immediately. If I knew who, I will gladly inform them of this thread if they don't already know about it.

Tommy is worthless. A true jerk. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Dave left Laura is because of her drinking and drug use she most likely had several affairs. Dave is the kind of man that Tommy will never be. And that is smart, mature, good looking, kind and a great dad.

SadSadSad

07-23-2007, 08:42 AM

Im confused, who is the pig, and who is the addict? :naughty:

LOL:lmfao: You're right not specifice enough as both Laura and Tommy can fit both names. So how about THE SHORT FAT WOMANIZING DRUNK DIALING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TAKING HIS KIDS TO VEGAS GREATEST PARENT EVER PIG and THE I CHOOSE PARTYING OVER MY KIDS WHY WOULD MY HUSBAND NOT WANT A SHOPAHOLIC DRUGGIE WHO NEVER IS THERE FOR HIM OR HIS CHILDREN ADDICT.

Carol

07-23-2007, 08:47 AM

Whoa whoa whoa sadsadsad..... Laura is an untouchable,we shouldn't talk about her like that. She is ALLLLLLERGIC to drugs and alchy.

My name is Laura C. and I'm an Alcoholic. I am allergic to alcohol and drugs

SadSadSad

07-23-2007, 08:58 AM

Mea Culpa, Carol. You're right. And Laura, I apologize for calling you an addict. Both the TV and Radio are reporting you have beaten addiction so of course you can no longer be labeled an addict. Way to go, Laura! You're a SuperStar! Thanks for being such a great role model for women and mothers!

Carol

07-23-2007, 09:16 AM

Daughter: Mom, I want to be just like Laura when I grow up!

Mom: Oh, you want to be on the raido?

Daughter: WHAT?!? No! I want to shop till I drop, work less than 4 hours a day, be "good times" parent, drink and snort my worries away while freeloading at a "friends" house after ruining my life.

Every parents dream, right?

I laughed out loud at the showgram this morning for the first time in ages. They cut to a comerical break, then, when the break was almost over you heard a female voice say "and now, for another hour of the Jeff & Jer showgram"

:confused:

A hour? A hour...umm...who do they think they are kidding? Factor out commericals and that leaves you with half of an hour.

listener13

07-23-2007, 09:53 AM

Jake:
I came close to peeing in my pants after reading your post....you are the funniest part about that show, and you're not even ON the show.

I would listen to you each morning - when are you getting your own radio station?

RowdyOne

07-23-2007, 10:03 AM

insightbyjake - you are the most creative, funny, gifted writer I have come across in a very long time. You sure have a fan club here... and you deserve it. Keep up the good work and if we can help you land a lucrative contract, say on a radio station between 6 and 10 a.m., let us know!

TJLuv

07-23-2007, 10:05 AM

Is anyone else of Tommy calling her "That Girl" - like she's freaking Marlo Thomas or something. Well, if "That Girl" has a brain in her head, she'll Google Tommy Sablan and find this site. And hey, "That Girl" - you should also look on the county website to see how many times Dannell turned him in on domestic charges, and oh, don't forget the dontdatehimgirl.com site.

Hey Marlo - we know you can walk - now RUN! RUN, and don't look back!

I'm not defending Tommy by any means, but there were two domestic violence charges. In one Dannell was the petitioner and in the other, Tommy was the petitioner... maybe she beat his a$$ after she found out he cheated?

Lipstick

07-23-2007, 10:12 AM

We never saw it coming. We're as amazed as you are. It started out as just a friendship and now we're in love. We're so happy. We can't believe this happened to us.

OneKidOneDogMom

07-23-2007, 10:14 AM

Did anyone catch Laura's comments when she was talking about the celeb that had a family intervention because of drinking? "Oh, she's really a MESS!!!"

Hello Pot? This is Kettle.

And just one comment about Tommy - he makes the big bucks and can't be bothered to buy bath towels? doesn't have a dresser? Yikes.

Dilbert-1985

07-23-2007, 10:41 AM

This board is more entertaining than the Showgram itself.

That sure was not a big surprise this morning, where the big announcement is that Laura is living at Tommy's. Not too many were surprised about that. But then they go on and on about Tommy's "house rules" for Laura to live at Tommy's. Sheesh..........

This answered a big question about Laura's kids. Clearly she doesn't have full custody of then, since she lives at Tommy's and they live back with Dave, we assume?

There's just so much stuff here we don't yet know. Laura doesn't live with her kids, yet her kids were such a big motivator for her, she said.

Maybe she doesn't have custody of the kids due to her drug issues? Even though she's graduated from rehab, the separation agreement may not have given her custody.

Dilbert-1985

07-23-2007, 10:44 AM

And then, if there is something going on with Tommy and Laura, today's announcement and joking about the house rules will soften the blow later on, if they announce that they are a couple. They may take their time on that one, hopefully at least until Laura's divorce is final. They don't want to imply in any way that their being together had anything to do with Laura's marital problems.

MissThany

07-23-2007, 10:45 AM

Well, clearly you ARE because thousands of people participate in this walk, and somehow THEY figure out how to work the donation process.

I participated in the 3-Day last year and I raised above and beyond the "minimum" amount. HOW do you do it? You talk to people, you ask them for money, you keep them involved in every step of your training and make sure the people who donate know that they are a part of your team! It IS possible and I signed up knowing that if I didn't raise the money, it would come out of my bank account. It was quite the motivation to raise the money and showed my friends and family how committed I was to the cause.

I am not participating this year because I am pregnant but my team of consisting of 2 Navy Wives/Moms, 1 Stay at Home Mom and 1 Single Woman who just lost her Grandmother to cancer are still looking for sponsoring help. If you want to give your money to people who are (Tommy CAPS talk coming) COMMITTED and will FOLLOW THROUGH with each mile, send me a message and I will get you the link you need to help my friends. From the team Electric Boobaloo.

feefifofum

07-23-2007, 10:46 AM

From Laura's Diary today:
"This is the song Chip wrote for me…"Mrs. Cain is famous. Mrs. Cain is famous. Mrs. Cain is famous, but I don't know why." Isn't that special. I laughed so hard." BARF!

SadSadSad

07-23-2007, 10:57 AM

I don't know if anyone has read the latest comment on Don't Date him girl but here is the link http://www.dontdatehimgirl.com/search/comments.asp?ddh_id=53535&photo=1&profile=Tommy+Sablan&return_url=index%2Easp%3F

Okay, so I can't figure out while Dannell, Christie, Sharloe and other women haven't said anything publicly about Tommy. I would love to be joking about his behavior but he has some serious and scary issues with women. I have a really good friend who saw Tommy for awhile and he turned out to be a real ass. The last time she saw him he came up from behind her grabbed her arms threw her on the ground face first into the carpet. I told her she should have called the police, but she said she was too embarrassed. She fell for his radio act. He obviously knows how to prey on the right women who won't speak out against him.

Everything comes around eventually. I hope Tommy ends up in jail someday. He has a very dark side.