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Amused
10-16-2007, 10:57 AM
and why is he praying so much? How bout instead of praying for the listeners who are supposedly mean to him wouldn't it make more sense for him pray for his mom's health? or pray about things that actually matter...just because some is mean to him doesn't mean they are a bad person in life....

But has he prayed in church yet?

listener13
10-16-2007, 11:04 AM
FH is such a complete idiot. He knows that Amused reads this thread - he knows that he didn't go to the wedding - he knows that she will call him out on it - what a dim bulb!

I'm sure HE thinks "well, it's only a handful of the malcontents that are jealous of me and therefore, aren't worthy of my fatness".......again, he doesn't realize that we speak for an ever-growing demographic who used to listen to the show and delight in it, who now think it's a "phoned in trainwreck".

He believes the sugar-filled crap that some of the listeners send to him (the unenlightened), and think we are just a bunch of jealous losers......wrong again, FH.

If we are such a bunch of jealous losers, why do you check in here and read our forum? Because you can't help yourself, that's why. People in "the business of show" need to grow a thick skin, not just a thick belly. Get over yourself.

newgal
10-16-2007, 11:05 AM
I think if FH were to step in a church he would immediately pass out or melt! At least I think that is what happens to people like him who attempt to fake people out by attending church!!

YoungAmerican
10-16-2007, 11:05 AM
Not to be a stickler here but there are still a couple of unanswered questions that have been asked of Amused here.

1. When FH said he took Vannessa and Amanda to get massages, that never happened right?
2. How does he still not have your address since he picks up and drops off the kids?

Ritchie
10-16-2007, 11:12 AM
I found this yesterday and it made me think of both Mooch and LBM.

This has been going around for a while.

The problem is, Mooch is way past her expiration date. She is old and not "hot" at all. She has kids and any smart (and that is the key word) man would not even consider marrying her.

Tubby is not smart at all. Unless his whole plan is to make her think he will marry her and then just get as much as he can out of her and a tube of ky.

The marriage will not happen. He will cheat long before that. Actually he will get caught. I'll bet he has cheated already.

LBM

11ListenerNot
10-16-2007, 11:14 AM
and why is he praying so much? How bout instead of praying for the listeners who are supposedly mean to him wouldn't it make more sense for him pray for his mom's health? or pray about things that actually matter...just because some is mean to him doesn't mean they are a bad person in life....he is an annoying person i think thats the bottom line... he cant differentiate whats important and what isn't in life, its sad.

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You're absolutely right. He prays for a Charger win. yikes

Amused
10-16-2007, 11:16 AM
Not to be a stickler here but there are still a couple of unanswered questions that have been asked of Amused here.

1. When FH said he took Vannessa and Amanda to get massages, that never happened right?
2. How does he still not have your address since he picks up and drops off the kids?

The kids did all get massages at the mall while they were waiting for me to arrive, Amanda got there first. FH doesn't let Amanda pick up "his kids" because he is a control freak and claims that she is turning the kids against him. He can't be accountable for his actions, so he blames it on Amanda. They are far from having a warm and loving "step" relationship. Amanda doesn't respect him.

We meet in a Vons parking lot in Escondido, half way. On Wednesday's we meet at a club house parking lot in Temecula. He doesn't need my address. Drive bys from an angry Ex only upsets the children. I've had my share of that. The little peeps both have phones (compliments of him) so he can reach them anytime he wants to speak with them. I choose to stay out of the loop. It's better that way.

Anything else? LOL

YoungAmerican
10-16-2007, 11:22 AM
Thanks Amused, I didn't mean anything by it, just asking. I guess it goes to show even more, as if that were even needed, that he is a complete psychopath.

shello
10-16-2007, 11:24 AM
But has he prayed in church yet?


Everyone, like I said before...."God has asked Tommy to keep his name out of it."

That was a reference to a Letterman joke after the evil Michael Vick :fro: said he had found the Lord and Dave's joke was that the Lord wants nothing to do with Michael Vick. And probably now Tommy too. :thumbdown

boris85
10-16-2007, 11:24 AM
Yes, it's probably all balanced and nutritious food. Fruit, vegetables, yogurt, chicken, etc....
Of course she doesn't recognize it.

No microwave directions...no can do! Or, there were no leftover fastfood containers. Wait - there's halloween candy. "Kids mama's got a yummy dinner for you!! Don't tell daddy."

SadSadSad
10-16-2007, 11:25 AM
The kids did all get massages at the mall while they were waiting for me to arrive, Amanda got there first. FH doesn't let Amanda pick up "his kids" because he is a control freak and claims that she is turning the kids against him. He can't be accountable for his actions, so he blames it on Amanda. They are far from having a warm and loving "step" relationship. Amanda doesn't respect him.

We meet in a Vons parking lot in Escondido, half way. On Wednesday's we meet at a club house parking lot in Temecula. He doesn't need my address. Drive bys from an angry Ex only upsets the children. I've had my share of that. The little peeps both have phones (compliments of him) so he can reach them anytime he wants to speak with them. I choose to stay out of the loop. It's better that way.

Anything else? LOL


Yes, if you were a tree what kind of tree would you be and why? :king:

Amused
10-16-2007, 11:29 AM
Yes, if you were a tree what kind of tree would you be and why? :king:

A maple... I like syrup :wavey2:

boris85
10-16-2007, 11:30 AM
The clothes are all there because she can't fit into them anymore. The least she could do is to donate them to goodwill. Or she could raise some money for herself by holding an auction.

She should donate them all! Except for the maternity clothes - those can become her new everyday wear...

SadSadSad
10-16-2007, 11:38 AM
SDGirl, :) You totally redeem yourself by bringing up some good nicknames. I'm sending Sally Field's doppleganger back to her little corner with the invisible elves who sometimes come out for sadsadsad...wait. Sadx3, you did have the invisible elves, didn't you?

I have to say, the guy who answered the gold digger sure sounds like a guy that I could go for. Heck, if he just talked economics, efficient markets, free market solutions, I could just listen to his voice all day and all night. I wouldn't really care about his money, but give me chatter about Milton Friedman, Adam Smith, The invisible hand, and win win economic transactions...wow. I'm all worn out. Yes! yes! Yes! as Melanie Griffith would say....

Oddly, sometimes the invisible elves whisper sweet nothings in my ear about macroecomomics to try and get me to forgive them for hiding my car keys. I have to say that when they start talking about Kaldor-Hicks and Pareto efficiency I do simmer down a bit.

SDGirl87
10-16-2007, 12:35 PM
"Over the last few days, I’ve been getting emails from people NICE and NOT SO NICE that say something like, ” how can you be in Chula Vista and then go to lunch at Islands and then work on the show and then yoga and then shopping all in the same day”……You know how I do it? Because I just do it and keep moving rather than sitting down thinking about it. JUST DO IT! Hey, that’s what NIKE has been saying for years, JUST DO IT!"

What about the rest of the 36 hour period? By my calculations (see previous post) he did not sleep from the time he got up on Sunday morning until Monday night...and yet had the energy to do ALL of those things?????????????? I'm a super high energy person who is also of the belief to "just do it". I'm also a realist and recognize that NO ONE could keep the schedule he alledgely kept for that 36 hour window.

shello
10-16-2007, 12:40 PM
This whole jealousy thing with Mooch and FH is silly, pathetic and disturbing. They are not in jr high anymore but sure act like it! I don't care if my husband looks at women when we are out...I will even point out when I see a very beautiful woman. I even got him a Hooters giftcard for Christmas last year.

So I have to wonder what is going on with those two. Is it healthy looking at the opposite sex? Or is Moochelle scanning a man's back pocket to see how fat his wallet is when she trades up?

Wabbitsd
10-16-2007, 01:20 PM
I think Moochie is in the same boat as the chick looking for a walking wallet in NewYork, quoted above. It's a business transaction to this group. She's willing to trade the exquisite pleasure of owning her for a secure and comfy living. When either of the parties involved in this contract relationship tire or feel they are being shortchanged, they bail and look for the next opportunity in the ponzi scheme.

Sadx3, do your elves visit out? I'd really like to listen to them one of these days. Ok, or the guy who sells blenders at the fair...or the guy at the swap meet who sells the beach towels...

YoungAmerican
10-16-2007, 01:24 PM
"YES, I still have a long way to go to be a skinny dude,and an even longer way to go to be a NORMAL human being but you know what, this chubby FATdude that writes you from time to time is the happiest he’s ever been in life,the more I say it the more it will be true even with 2 chins and man boobs. !"

DreamerGal
10-16-2007, 01:28 PM
I noticed when I was watching him on TummyTube that he seems to be dead in the eyes ... like he's either high or just plain dead inside. I agree that he seems to be bothered by his mother's condition; most people would be. But he's not so bothered that he can't exploit her.

Laura seems to be playing a part.

I'm just struck by how NON-genuine these two seem to be. How UN-involved they seem to be in their own lives ... only occasionally acknowledging the bit players, such as their kids, or parents, or significant others.

What a wierd existence!

Ritchie
10-16-2007, 01:29 PM
This whole jealousy thing with Mooch and FH is silly, pathetic and disturbing. They are not in jr high anymore but sure act like it! I don't care if my husband looks at women when we are out...I will even point out when I see a very beautiful woman. I even got him a Hooters giftcard for Christmas last year.

So I have to wonder what is going on with those two. Is it healthy looking at the opposite sex? Or is Moochelle scanning a man's back pocket to see how fat his wallet is when she trades up?

She is getting way too up in years to be able to trade up. Unless she goes after some 65 year old guy worth billions.

From what I've seen of her, all of her best years are far behind her. There is only so much that botox and dermabrasion can do.

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 01:33 PM
I'm not understanding why Davecain has seemingly gone to great

lengths to show Laura that she's unwelcome in his life and their

(once shared) residence but yet trusts her enough to sleep there

and take care of their children when he's away on business.

On another note....I heard, (unfortunately too late to prevent

my children from hearing it too) the bit, on J&J this morning,

that they did for Jer's entertainment, called 99 Words for Boobs.

(a parody of 99 Red Balloons). Seems to me we could come up with

our own version based on Tommy alone. It could be titled 99 Words

for A Boob...here's my first verse...


Tubby, short, big headed loser

Burrito-eating-SECRET-boozer

Paul McCartney-wanna-be

Loses weight mathematically

We've heard so many times before

We know, we know, you grew up poor

Prefers the couch to sleep at night

'Cause that's how he can watch Big Deal pass by.....

.......c'mon everyone...sing along now.....

wonkatania
10-16-2007, 01:35 PM
A Horse is a Horse Ofcourse, Ofcourse:

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3680/lauraedcb8.gif

mamasterls
10-16-2007, 01:38 PM
Sapphie, I love your lyrics!
Bravo!:laugh:

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 01:40 PM
Hahaha Wonkatania....clever stuff...but now I can't stop myself humming that tune all day!

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 01:41 PM
Sapphie, I love your lyrics!
Bravo!:laugh:


<blushing>...why thank you Mama....

11ListenerNot
10-16-2007, 02:09 PM
Tuesday October 16, 2007 11am: Thank you so much for the nice emails about my mom and the latest Tommytube. I will read them with her later on tonight. That sure means a lot to me! I just didn’t want to wait too long to write you to say hello and thanks!

I’m getting ready to go to lunch with Michelle and then off to see the kids.

I got some more emails this morning from people that wanted to start getting in better shape and eating right and have followed the blog through the last week or two since I weighed in at 211. I just know for a fact that weight and problems people face with weight starts with eating right and exercising. Yes, that’s so basic of a thing to say, but it’s a powerful thing to do once you get started. TWICE during this journey of mine I have seen the light, so to speak.

First in early March and then again a couple of days ago: Both times I started off just bummed out about letting myself go and then once I started walking and hiking a little more and doing yoga and then eating SMART, a couple of pounds came off, but that’s not what the major thing was: This process opened up my mind and it opened up my heart and soul and it just made me feel better and act better and made me do more things in a day than I usually would of. It’s funny, but when you take the time to just give yourself an hour or two to workout each day, YOU GET MORE THINGS DONE even if you didn’t take that time to exercise. Let me say that again: You get more things done in your day if you take time to workout. IF YOU DON’T TAKE that time to workout, for some reason, you don’t get things done. It’s backwards, but it’s true for me!

Over the last few days, I’ve been getting emails from people NICE and NOT SO NICE that say something like, ” how can you be in Chula Vista and then go to lunch at Islands and then work on the show and then yoga and then shopping all in the same day”……You know how I do it? Because I just do it and keep moving rather than sitting down thinking about it. JUST DO IT! Hey, that’s what NIKE has been saying for years, JUST DO IT!

I’m on a big time HIGH right now, just from feeling good and exercising and being positive in life and what I do everyday. I think that’s what it’s all about.

YES, I still have a long way to go to be a skinny dude, but you know what, this chubby dude that writes you from time to time is the happiest he’s ever been in life, even with 2 chins! J

11ListenerNot
10-16-2007, 02:11 PM
Over the last few days, I’ve been getting emails from people NICE and NOT SO NICE that say something like, ” how can you be in Chula Vista and then go to lunch at Islands and then work on the show and then yoga and then shopping all in the same day”……You know how I do it? Because I just do it and keep moving rather than sitting down thinking about it. JUST DO IT! Hey, that’s what NIKE has been saying for years, JUST DO IT!

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Congrats to all who have sent him e-mails! You are all big deals, because he mentioned you in his blob:dead:

JUST DO IT! Keep those e-mails coming folks, JUST DO IT!

11ListenerNot
10-16-2007, 02:15 PM
Tubby, short, big headed loser

Burrito-eating-SECRET-boozer

Paul McCartney-wanna-be

Loses weight mathematically

We've heard so many times before

We know, we know, you grew up poor

Prefers the couch to sleep at night

'Cause that's how he can watch Big Deal pass by.....

.......c'mon everyone...sing along now.....
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hahahahahahahah! I can't top that!

iamsheens
10-16-2007, 02:18 PM
Well today I emailed Tommy about Tommy Tube...apparently I'm also on the list of people he plans to start praying for...lucky me! haha.

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 02:27 PM
99 Words For A Boob...another verse, this time pertaining to....

well, see if you can guess..


Snobby-egomaniac

Perverted-pseudo-brainiac

Obsessed with pussies, funny-NOT

Laughs at his own jokes a lot

Boob-a-holic, thinks he's Buddha

Downloads porn on his computer

Had laser treatment on his eyes

To better see hot women swingin' by.....

TJLuv
10-16-2007, 02:50 PM
Laura's Diary, October 16th, 2007


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MY, MY, MY, guess Davecain has moved on.
And the whole 'I'm not living there at the present moment' eludes to the fact that she may in the future?? I don't think so.

Since she's been back, she's been very clear that she doesn't want to divorce and mean ol' davecain just won't give her a shot... denial and pathetic.

Carol
10-16-2007, 02:53 PM
I decided that I should write FH an email, so I did! I let him know that I would pray for him...:naughty:

shello
10-16-2007, 03:03 PM
Tubby, short, big headed loser

Burrito-eating-SECRET-boozer

Paul McCartney-wanna-be

Loses weight mathematically

We've heard so many times before

We know, we know, you grew up poor

Prefers the couch to sleep at night

'Cause that's how he can watch Big Deal pass by.....

.......c'mon everyone...sing along now.....
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hahahahahahahah! I can't top that!

Fine work, Sapphie! And here are the musicians to accompany that tune!
:fro: :guitar: :drums: :sing:

GirlfromOR
10-16-2007, 03:05 PM
She should donate them all! Except for the maternity clothes - those can become her new everyday wear...

Hahahaha. Too funny.

GirlfromOR
10-16-2007, 03:10 PM
[QUOTE=SDGirl87]"Over the last few days, I’ve been getting emails from people NICE and NOT SO NICE that say something like, ” how can you be in Chula Vista and then go to lunch at Islands and then work on the show and then yoga and then shopping all in the same day”……You know how I do it? Because I just do it and keep moving rather than sitting down thinking about it. JUST DO IT! Hey, that’s what NIKE has been saying for years, JUST DO IT!" QUOTE]

It is not just "all in the same day." He's trying to make people believe that he's done all of that in the span of like 4 hours! Even with no traffic, his time line does not work. It takes me an hour just to eat lunch with my husband because we sit and talk and enjoy our food. Maybe Islands was actually another carne asada burrito from some taco drive through. That would free up some time. LBM mentioned once that taping Tubbytube takes a few hours (probably while she was complaining that she was sooo tired and didn't have enough time to enjoy her kids). I JUST DO a lot of things during the day, but I cannot add more hours to the day like Tommy apparently can. Even if he takes uploading Tubbyvision out of his timeline because his assistants do it, it still doesn't make sense.

GirlfromOR
10-16-2007, 03:16 PM
"YES, I still have a long way to go to be a skinny dude,and an even longer way to go to be a NORMAL human being but you know what, this chubby FATdude that writes you from time to time is the happiest he’s ever been in life,the more I say it the more it will be true even with 2 chins and man boobs. !"

Oh gosh, you guys are in fine form today! I'm loving it! Oh and Sapphie (did I spell that right? Sorry if I didn't!) I'm sure Dave doesn't really want Laura there (and after reading that she was snooping, he probably won't ask her back) but it is the lesser of the two evils between having her there and having his kids spend the night at the freakshow.

iamsheens
10-16-2007, 03:30 PM
Uhm Im not sure if you guys know this but the reason FH can do a billion and one things is because like most big deals he uses private planes to get from one location to another...and if they need more time then big deals such as himself can freeze time to do even more...I guess if we had they resources and abilities we could do as much as fh without the worry of traffic and real time.

PRINTER
10-16-2007, 03:57 PM
OK...ANOTHER long time lurker...first time poster.:wavey2: I used to LOVE J&J and wouldn't miss the shhowgram. I hate that it's turned into such a trainwreck. It's just like a dysfunctional family...with "Dad Jer", who everyone is afraid of, heading up the clan. I've heard everybody on the show but Jeff (the long suffering "Mama") say, "I was going to (fill in blank) but I was afraid Jerry would get mad." The whole "family" dances to the moods of the screwed up dad. Then there's Mom (Jeff) who is so immersed in his own problems that he doesn't even call Jerry on being a jerk. Tommy's like the "oldest son" who keeps the wayward daughter (Laura) together, albiet not very well, but at least "Mom and Dad" don't have to think about them or the sex, drugs and alcohol problems. Jerry is so "over" us (the lowly REAL San Diegans). Their contract is up as of September 2009 so he doesn't give a damn about what the show-wreck is doing since he's getting ready to divorce the "family" and move on to more important things...like meeting every single one of his idols so he can think he's something special.
When Rick Moorten was part of the ensemble it was GREAT. They never wanted to admit, but finally had to, that he (Rick) was the brains and artist behind the BEST segments (Cracky McClure) etc. J&J could never have done anything SO brilliant!
So bummed that I have had to turn my back on the showgram...I really USED to enjoy them...now they just bug me...
OH! and about Laura...sorry, but I really did feel bad when she first came back. I even thought she was kind of brave...but I don't feel sorry anymore. I love my kids and if I had been away from them for 3 months, then came back and my husband had kicked me out I would have changed EVERYTHING to get my family back together! I would have joined the PTA, become a classroom mom, gone back to church, become friends with people of integrity, gone to counseling, taken my kids to counseling, began walking with other moms for exercise and friendship, taken responsibility for my past, NOT SHOWN MY STUPID FACE ON STUPID TUMMY-TUBE TO GET MORE ATTENTION, NOT STAY LOCKED UP IN A LOSER'S HOUSE WHINING AND GAINING WEIGHT, NOT MADE FRIENDS WITH A PATHOLGICAL LIAR WHO USES ME AND MY PROBLEMS FOR RATINGS...
Whew...long time lurking had me "pent up"...thanks for letting me vent.

Smitty
10-16-2007, 04:24 PM
She should donate them all! Except for the maternity clothes - those can become her new everyday wear...

Or leave them for Dave's new squeeze. Dave may want more kids with his new wife.

cheekymonkey
10-16-2007, 04:32 PM
OK...ANOTHER long time lurker...first time poster.:wavey2: I used to LOVE J&J and wouldn't miss the shhowgram. I hate that it's turned into such a trainwreck. It's just like a dysfunctional family...with "Dad Jer", who everyone is afraid of, heading up the clan. I've heard everybody on the show but Jeff (the long suffering "Mama") say, "I was going to (fill in blank) but I was afraid Jerry would get mad." The whole "family" dances to the moods of the screwed up dad. Then there's Mom (Jeff) who is so immersed in his own problems that he doesn't even call Jerry on being a jerk. Tommy's like the "oldest son" who keeps the wayward daughter (Laura) together, albiet not very well, but at least "Mom and Dad" don't have to think about them or the sex, drugs and alcohol problems. Jerry is so "over" us (the lowly REAL San Diegans). Their contract is up as of September 2009 so he doesn't give a damn about what the show-wreck is doing since he's getting ready to divorce the "family" and move on to more important things...like meeting every single one of his idols so he can think he's something special.
When Rick Moorten was part of the ensemble it was GREAT. They never wanted to admit, but finally had to, that he (Rick) was the brains and artist behind the BEST segments (Cracky McClure) etc. J&J could never have done anything SO brilliant!
So bummed that I have had to turn my back on the showgram...I really USED to enjoy them...now they just bug me...
OH! and about Laura...sorry, but I really did feel bad when she first came back. I even thought she was kind of brave...but I don't feel sorry anymore. I love my kids and if I had been away from them for 3 months, then came back and my husband had kicked me out I would have changed EVERYTHING to get my family back together! I would have joined the PTA, become a classroom mom, gone back to church, become friends with people of integrity, gone to counseling, taken my kids to counseling, began walking with other moms for exercise and friendship, taken responsibility for my past, NOT SHOWN MY STUPID FACE ON STUPID TUMMY-TUBE TO GET MORE ATTENTION, NOT STAY LOCKED UP IN A LOSER'S HOUSE WHINING AND GAINING WEIGHT, NOT MADE FRIENDS WITH A PATHOLGICAL LIAR WHO USES ME AND MY PROBLEMS FOR RATINGS...
Whew...long time lurking had me "pent up"...thanks for letting me vent.




You have great insight and sum it up quite well. One thing that did stand out for me was the PTA thing. I realized not once did Laura ever say she had to do volunteer hours, help out at school, etc. Going to a catholic school, you usually have to put in 20 hours of service for the year. Here she was off at 10 a.m. and could easily go do lunch duty or a project for Charlie's class.

I use to do over 50 hours with my eyes closed at my kids' school. I don't think I have ever heard her say she even did 2 hours.

surfing_texan
10-16-2007, 04:43 PM
You have great insight and sum it up quite well. One thing that did stand out for me was the PTA thing. I realized not once did Laura ever say she had to do volunteer hours, help out at school, etc. Going to a catholic school, you usually have to put in 20 hours of service for the year. Here she was off at 10 a.m. and could easily go do lunch duty or a project for Charlie's class.

I use to do over 50 hours with my eyes closed at my kids' school. I don't think I have ever heard her say she even did 2 hours.

I think she helped once. Wasn't she supposed to do a craft with the kids, and planned to make snow globes out of baby food jars? She either left the supplies at home, or forgot to get all of them..something ridiculous like that.

My oldest son goes to private school, and we're required to do 1 hour, 2 times a month, and also help at school fairs/field trips/etc.

listener13
10-16-2007, 04:43 PM
Fine work, Sapphie! And here are the musicians to accompany that tune!
:fro: :guitar: :drums: :sing:

.....I missed the band......they play way better than Tubby does.

listener13
10-16-2007, 04:48 PM
I think she helped once. Wasn't she supposed to do a craft with the kids, and planned to make snow globes out of baby food jars? She either left the supplies at home, or forgot to get all of them..something ridiculous like that.

....she kept trying to snort the glitter and drink the glue, so they asked her not to come back.

YoungAmerican
10-16-2007, 04:51 PM
I remember once Laura saying how she wishes she could help at Charlie's school like other moms but she wasn't able to. She made it sound like she was not able to because of work. I remember thinking she was full of crap saying that considering the short work day she actually has. They probably wouldn't let her back into his school after her one fiasco with the snowglobes.

longtimereader
10-16-2007, 04:57 PM
I think she helped once. Wasn't she supposed to do a craft with the kids, and planned to make snow globes out of baby food jars?

She probably just confused the snow for the snowglobes with her nose candy. :disa:

surfing_texan
10-16-2007, 05:14 PM
I meant to post his newest crap earlier... (again, I'm green, and he is brown...much like bull sh!t) I'll back track some, just as a refresher!

For the love of God, please stop emailing me if it is not about the show.
Harrassment begins when a person asks for you to stop.
I beg you to please leave me alone.
Email me about the show, but do not email me about my daughter's wedding or a fiance's sister baptism.

Sincerely,
Tommy Sablan
10/15/07
2:36pm

Sent: Mon 10/15/2007 6:23 PM
To: Little Tommy
Subject: Re: Wow

Ok, your blog is show related. Why do you tell lies in your blog and on air? Why do you threaten and call listeners that email you comments you don't like, about the show and the blog. You make things like Amanda's wedding and baptisms, etc.,etc., show related when you speak of them on air, or write about them in your blog.


Because you crossed the line when you made it about trying to "catch me" and you have crossed the line when I simply said for you not to email me. Please I beg you to please just leave me alone. Please just move on from me and just go away please.

This email from you came after I asked you to NOT email me. Please

Tommy Sablan
10-15-07
7pm

surfing_texan
10-16-2007, 05:17 PM
I have some issues with this:

Because you crossed the line when you made it about trying to "catch me" and you have crossed the line when I simply said for you not to email me. Please I beg you to please just leave me alone. Please just move on from me and just go away please.

This email from you came after I asked you to NOT email me. Please


My question to him was "Why do you tell lies in your blog and on air?" his answer was: Because you crossed the line when you made it about trying to "catch me"

This also is confusing to me: This email from you came after I asked you to NOT email me.

Actually no, my email to him was sent after he said: Email me about the show

Apparently he lies because I was trying to "catch him". Again, the man takes responsibility for nothing and tries to turn the tables on others.

RowdyOne
10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
I remember once Laura saying how she wishes she could help at Charlie's school like other moms but she wasn't able to. She made it sound like she was not able to because of work. I remember thinking she was full of crap saying that considering the short work day she actually has. They probably wouldn't let her back into his school after her one fiasco with the snowglobes.The reasons you guys post that she can't help at school are hilarious... but in real life my guess is she's not allowed to be on campus (except for teacher-parent conferences perhaps). There are enough teachers, moms, and dads on this board who know we/they wouldn't want her around our kids given her history. That being said, she could - and should - seek to help elsewhere; there are many organizations and charities that desperately need volunteers.

iamsheens
10-16-2007, 05:24 PM
I have some issues with this:

Because you crossed the line when you made it about trying to "catch me" and you have crossed the line when I simply said for you not to email me. Please I beg you to please just leave me alone. Please just move on from me and just go away please.

This email from you came after I asked you to NOT email me. Please


My question to him was "Why do you tell lies in your blog and on air?" his answer was: Because you crossed the line when you made it about trying to "catch me"

This also is confusing to me: This email from you came after I asked you to NOT email me.

Actually no, my email to him was sent after he said: Email me about the show

Apparently he lies because I was trying to "catch him". Again, the man takes responsibility for nothing and tries to turn the tables on others.

Well he doesnt know what he is talking about. When I emailed him something about Amanda's wedding he also failed to answer my question...he picks and chooses what he wants to answer...maybe next time you should email him and ask why the show has gone down hill so much and ask him why he assumes the listeners are a bunch of idiots who can't make connections to realize that what he says in his blogs and what happens on the radio don't always match up.

Hey its radio related...i doubt he'd answer tho.

ca_girl
10-16-2007, 05:25 PM
It seems unfair that I'm not living there at the present moment, but I'm trying to take the high road. It's getting awfully exhausting, this high-road-taking.

Isn't taking the "HIGH" road what got you to where you are now? In addition - you DIDN'T take the high road. Taking the high road is NOT being FORCED into rehab & choosing alcohol & drugs over your CHILDREN. Wake up!


You know what really made me sad? I had a hard time making the kids dinner because when I looked in the refrigerator, I didn't recognize any of the food. That sounds completely bizarre, I just can't explain it.
Let me explain it - because he has money now (because you aren't spending it all on clothes, hair cuts/color, booze, & drugs, he can now afford to shop at the grocery store for REAL FOOD. He probably even makes time to (OH MY!) cook for his kids! Frozen burritos, (or whatever your kids were probably making for themselves when you were too busy doing drugs, or passed out somewhere) is NOT healthy food.


Unfortunately, boxes and boxes of MY clothes and MY shoes and MY things filled up the garage, courtesy of Davecain, GOOD FOR DAVECAIN!!!!! You are lucky he didn;t burn the crap. I wouldn't be surprised if you went looking through those boxes for an old stash you probably have. If you would bother to look for a freaknig place to live, you could have all of your crap. Dave would probably drive it over to get it out of HIS house.

surfing_texan
10-16-2007, 05:27 PM
The reasons you guys post that she can't help at school are hilarious... but in real life my guess is she's not allowed to be on campus (except for teacher-parent conferences perhaps). There are enough teachers, moms, and dads on this board who know we/they wouldn't want her around our kids given her history. That being said, she could - and should - seek to help elsewhere; there are many organizations and charities that desperately need volunteers.

I've wondered if they could "kick him out", because of her. I know private instituions (I can't remember which he attends) have extremely strict rules about the families they allow in.

GirlfromOR
10-16-2007, 05:27 PM
So he threatens people when we cross the line and try to "cach him" in his lies? I wonder what he'd do to someone who confronted him in person? Oh wait... thats what those restraining orders are about!

surfing_texan
10-16-2007, 05:54 PM
When the auction began, the bidding moved quickly. "Little Tommy" Sablan sat in the front row, flashing his red bidder’s number.

The lingerie cabinet that "Little Tommy" Sablan had his eye on went for $4,000, more than his radio bosses could afford. He did manage to snap up a couple of antique nightstands, though.

The whole article is here http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5298689

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 06:00 PM
When the auction began, the bidding moved quickly. "Little Tommy" Sablan sat in the front row, flashing his red bidder’s number.

The lingerie cabinet that "Little Tommy" Sablan had his eye on went for $4,000, more than his radio bosses could afford. He did manage to snap up a couple of antique nightstands, though.

The whole article is here http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5298689


Hey...I think I saw those nightstands on Tommytube...

(just kidding):winkie:

(if you know what I mean)

wanky
10-16-2007, 06:43 PM
FH is taking Weirdom to a whole new level now. First of all, I don't think anyone is "trying to make him mad" by sending emails. We are just asking him to tell the truth. The fact that he gets mad when we ask him questions about the inconsistencies in his blobs means we're catching him in lies and no one is supposed to question the Great FH. I personally can't stand how much he loves the supportive emails but then thinks its harrassment or invasion of privacy if you send him an email questioning his behavior.

Take a look at this description from Wikipedia on narcissistic personality disorder. It fits FH to a tee.
People who are overly narcissistic commonly feel rejected, humiliated and threatened when criticised. To protect themselves from these dangers, they often react with disdain, rage, and/or defiance to any slight, real or imagined [9]. To avoid such situations, some narcissistic people withdraw socially and may feign modesty or humility.

He and LBM are so right for each other. They really deserve one another!

potus
10-16-2007, 07:07 PM
I love how so many long time lurkers are finally posting. :)

Ritchie
10-16-2007, 07:10 PM
OK...ANOTHER long time lurker...first time poster.:wavey2: I used to LOVE J&J and wouldn't miss the shhowgram. I hate that it's turned into such a trainwreck. It's just like a dysfunctional family...with "Dad Jer", who everyone is afraid of, heading up the clan. I've heard everybody on the show but Jeff (the long suffering "Mama") say, "I was going to (fill in blank) but I was afraid Jerry would get mad." The whole "family" dances to the moods of the screwed up dad. Then there's Mom (Jeff) who is so immersed in his own problems that he doesn't even call Jerry on being a jerk. Tommy's like the "oldest son" who keeps the wayward daughter (Laura) together, albiet not very well, but at least "Mom and Dad" don't have to think about them or the sex, drugs and alcohol problems. Jerry is so "over" us (the lowly REAL San Diegans). Their contract is up as of September 2009 so he doesn't give a damn about what the show-wreck is doing since he's getting ready to divorce the "family" and move on to more important things...like meeting every single one of his idols so he can think he's something special.
When Rick Moorten was part of the ensemble it was GREAT. They never wanted to admit, but finally had to, that he (Rick) was the brains and artist behind the BEST segments (Cracky McClure) etc. J&J could never have done anything SO brilliant!
So bummed that I have had to turn my back on the showgram...I really USED to enjoy them...now they just bug me...
OH! and about Laura...sorry, but I really did feel bad when she first came back. I even thought she was kind of brave...but I don't feel sorry anymore. I love my kids and if I had been away from them for 3 months, then came back and my husband had kicked me out I would have changed EVERYTHING to get my family back together! I would have joined the PTA, become a classroom mom, gone back to church, become friends with people of integrity, gone to counseling, taken my kids to counseling, began walking with other moms for exercise and friendship, taken responsibility for my past, NOT SHOWN MY STUPID FACE ON STUPID TUMMY-TUBE TO GET MORE ATTENTION, NOT STAY LOCKED UP IN A LOSER'S HOUSE WHINING AND GAINING WEIGHT, NOT MADE FRIENDS WITH A PATHOLGICAL LIAR WHO USES ME AND MY PROBLEMS FOR RATINGS...
Whew...long time lurking had me "pent up"...thanks for letting me vent.


Welcome PRINTER. Very well put.

I think we can all understand your feelings on the issue.

SDGirl87
10-16-2007, 07:38 PM
:cheers: :wavey2: :)


Good night new friends!!

SDGirl

mel41099
10-16-2007, 08:09 PM
She really may not be able to help at school - the Catholic Diocese implemented a LiveScan fingerprinting and backround check for anyone who volunteers at a Catholic school. (My kids go to Catholic school) I think her arrest would show up and she wouldn't be allowed.


Welcome all new long time lurkers!!!!

califbrat
10-16-2007, 08:23 PM
Hey .. thanks for all the greetings .. Hello's and G'nights

Long time lurker, finally posted earlier today!

Wabbitsd
10-16-2007, 08:47 PM
I would hate to think they would toss Charlie out just because his Ma has made some bad choices. I'm hoping the school would have some class and dignity and be able to deal with the situation with some discretion and class.

I would hope that they would encourage Ms. Cain to participate in some ways that would allow her to seem to be participating, in a way that wouldn't put her in a risky situation with the kids...and not pin the big Scarlet Letter on her...again, for Charlie's sake. She's still the only Ma he knows, and from his point of view, I'm sure all he wishes for is to be a "normal" kid in any way possible.

Ms. Cain's pennance shouldn't be served by her children. I know it's sometime hard to keep that in mind. The best thing we can do for these kids is to let their parents sins remain the sins of the parent.

I also think the scan would probably only be able to show convictions, not just arrests.

eyeseeyou
10-16-2007, 08:47 PM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20070518-9999-1n18mini.html
His few words are at the very bottom. It's about his neighbors.

RowdyOne
10-16-2007, 08:48 PM
This board is so fast-paced that anything posted might be considered old news! Such as:

this morning (Tuesday) - about three pages ago - I listened in on my way to the MD around 8:15-8:30 (some kids-not-in-school-yet-time). For those who were fortunate to not hear it, they were talking about "the briefcase that Jer(k) always carries with him" and in that briefcase is the list of boob symonyms. I guess that stale segment lasted at least 30 minutes before they jettisoned off to a side-blab about what a man notices first in a woman, be it boobs, butt, or legs. Face didn't count. Jer couldn't believe any guy would look at anything but boobs first, or that Jeff stopped at "face". Then finally they were going to play the boob song but fortunately I'd arrived at my destination and went into the building so I didn't hear it. OMG, when I got upstairs and into the office (8:45) the boombox at the receptionist's desk was tuned to the shamgram! :2far: I finally asked the two soccer mom/nurses behind the desk, "Do you listen to Jeff & Jer every day?" The answer: "No, but we have it on; it's become such a fake show and kind of silly" and then one of them talked about a segment she heard a few months ago that was repeated recently as if it were new (do ya think?) I wish I could have had the link to the drama thread with me, but I definitely will give it to them next time I go there. Then I'm sure they will pass it on.

Another bit I heard part of was Jer chiding FH about his jealousy. FH finally did admit he's a jealous guy and went on and on trying to defend it. nuff said, I cannot even talk about him any longer. It makes me ill. (barf icon thoughtfully omitted) So keep up the funny posts y'all, they are the only entertainment the show provides.

And welcome to you newbies :wavey2: - I'm curious how you found and followed this thread before posting. Several of us found it while googling Laura during her absence, others have been here for a loooong time.

cheekymonkey
10-16-2007, 09:13 PM
I would hate to think they would toss Charlie out just because his Ma has made some bad choices. I'm hoping the school would have some class and dignity and be able to deal with the situation with some discretion and class.

I would hope that they would encourage Ms. Cain to participate in some ways that would allow her to seem to be participating, in a way that wouldn't put her in a risky situation with the kids...and not pin the big Scarlet Letter on her...again, for Charlie's sake. She's still the only Ma he knows, and from his point of view, I'm sure all he wishes for is to be a "normal" kid in any way possible.

Ms. Cain's pennance shouldn't be served by her children. I know it's sometime hard to keep that in mind. The best thing we can do for these kids is to let their parents sins remain the sins of the parent.

I also think the scan would probably only be able to show convictions, not just arrests.


Live scan is only for anyone who volunteers. They get reporting from DOJ and FBI. Anything coming up will be reported to the diocese and we wait to hear about clearance from them.

None of that will affect Charlie other than his mom may not be able to volunteer if she has a record or blemish on that.

But she is a big deal so they may overlook it!!! (the school)

Wabbitsd
10-16-2007, 09:30 PM
the list of boob words has been done several times...I think I first heard it on this show four years ago. It was just as hilarious then (not) as it is now.

I came here when Fat Wallet closed down...it used to be a forum where pople shared words and stuff from radio stations with promotional programs. I remember that "points" page started getting populated with groanings and witty remarks about how stale and crummy the spewgram had gotten. I knew these folks were my kind of people. AT one point, the real points collectors started complaining about the comedy, and a poster thoughtfully started a whole new thread, just for us folks who were tired of all the drama on J&J.

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 09:35 PM
Fine work, Sapphie! And here are the musicians to accompany that tune!
:fro: :guitar: :drums: :sing:


Thanks for the band Shello! Are they professional?

RedWillow
10-16-2007, 09:38 PM
First off, howdy all. Long time lurker, and have enjoyed the witty repartee.

I had a big long post, but must have been timed out - lost the whole thing, so I'll be brief for my first post! :D



County Mental Health is correct. And from what I know...patients are usually dropped there by Police Officers...does anybody know if this is where people go if something is court ordered? As fast as it happened (with Charlie and all that), I would suspect she was dropped there.

CMH = County Mental Health. You go there if you are forcibly committed (arrested) or are indigent and can't pay. If you have money/insurance, you can self-commit yourself, and you would go to the hospital/facility covered by your insurance. You have to be a threat to yourself or others for law enforcement to put you there - because you're mentally impaired - not under the influence. If you are under the influence, you go to regular jail.

As for Flubby's threats?



California PC 653m declares a criminal act for any person to use the telephone or an electronic media to transmit obscene or threatening messages.
Any person conveying a message by telephone or electronic means which states an intent to inflict injury to a person or property, or a person's family or familial property, will be charged with a misdemeanor offense.
Any person who makes repeated, harassing, and/or annoying phone calls or sends malicious, menacing, or pestiferous electronic text or email messages to another person's home, place of work, or mobile communication device will be charged with a misdemeanor offense.

A violation of PC 653m must:

a. be executed in violation of a valid temporary restraining order, court order, stay away order, or injunction that explicitly prohibits such contact by the ordered to stay away, or

b. the repetitive harassment calls or messages are made at a rate of 10 or more in a 24 hour period, regardless of whether the harassor makes actual verbal or other contact with the victim.
An electronic device is defined as a pager, mobile phone, computer, fax machine, video recorder, telephone, or any other digital receiver or radio.

I don't think you have to worry. :)

I think pestiferous is my new favorite word!!!!

Trixie
10-16-2007, 09:42 PM
A few things to comment on. Way back, there was a record someone found about LBM's court date. If it is still on schedule, it will be next Tuesday, Oct 23. Don't know if she has to be present, or if her Lawyer (also used by Amused, if I recollect, anyone feel free to correct me) only need to make an appearance. I'll be interested in her diary entries for next week.

Now, on to XXXL: The distance between RPQ and CV is equal to the amount of food that he can shove into his mouth. So, between his house and his mama's house, if he is constantly eating every mile, he will continue to consume and continue to have these conflicts with the devil (Bread/Tortillas, etc.).

Lastly, the Train Walk he offers info on will be his own personal Train Wreck of lies. Need I continue?

Welcome to the LongTime/FirstTime posters. I'm sure there might be more, come on in.

I found this place end of May, this year, and lurked for 2-3 months before joining. I googled something like Laura Cain Rehab or something like that.

PRINTER
10-16-2007, 09:57 PM
I've been lurking since the beginning...when they were off the air during the switch. That's when I was still feeling kind of bad that they were getting boring but was interested in the revelations on this thread. Finally decided to post because I'm so offended at the obvious lack of respect FH has for the listeners by lying and lying and lying to us. Also, really hope Laura reads this so she'll realize that a lot of us really were concerned when she was gone and when she returned. But her "kind of a big deal" attitude was way inappropriate for where she had been (physically and emotionally) and when she moved in with Tummy I was so disappointed. Then I realized this is who she is/was all along...a person who doesn't want to grow up and accept responsibility. She still cares more about her popularity than she does about her kids. She really, really, really doesn't get it! BTW Tummy-tube is painfully embarrasing to her. :blush:

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 09:58 PM
I think pestiferous is my new favorite word!!!!


I think "Flubby" is my favorite new word!

SDReadhead
10-16-2007, 10:03 PM
Hey drama club pals ... I've wanted to post something over the past day or so, but I have been shocked and sickened by the Big Fat Pig's threats to Texan and all the rest. His lies are increasing exponentially. Watching him speed out of control with his fantasy life is like watching a tornado approach a town -- I feel frozen and unable to quit staring; wishing I could turn and run, but stuck gawking in disbelief. That guy really is a sociopath.

Ok, here's a request to all lurkers out there: please register and log on within the next few days because that horrible liar logs on and reads this thread, and I'd love for the Big Deal to see just how many of the 11 listeners have jumped off the train before the big crash. To all of you soon-to-be-newbies, a big Drama Thread welcome :wavey2:

Alpinemaps
10-16-2007, 10:14 PM
I don't remember what I used to find this place originally. But, I don't have a link to this place. I just go to Google and type in 'Jeff Jer Drama' and this is what pops up. It's quite easy to find!

You all make me laugh. And I'm laughing about the number of pregnant people in this thread! (While I am not pregnant, my wife is).

OneKidOneDogMom
10-16-2007, 10:14 PM
Ok, here's a request to all lurkers out there: please register and log on within the next few days because that horrible liar logs on and reads this thread, and I'd love for the Big Deal to see just how many of the 11 listeners have jumped off the train before the big crash. To all of you soon-to-be-newbies, a big Drama Thread welcome :wavey2:

I second this - all you lurkers out there need to pony-up and join us here! We really don't bite (well, unless you are a Spewgram member in disguise and then all bets are off...)

It's a fun place to vent, share thoughts and root out BIG FAT XXXL LIARS :)

Hi Tummy! :wavey2:

(edited to add - I am NOT one of the pregnant ones...just in case there was any confusion :) if I have baby-lust, I'll just get a Golden Retriever puppy!)

RedWillow
10-16-2007, 10:50 PM
I found this thread looking for "dirt" on Laura. I thought DC had finally left her after being driven into backrupcy for the umpteenth time. I thought maybe she had a nervous breakdown.

I've been a listener off and on since Jeff and Jer first came to town. I say off, as at some point they wander into "one-step-beyond" land, and I would tune out. There's a mean streak that rears it's ugly head, but they used to have enough warm/charming bits to balance out the bad. They seem fewer and farther between these days.

My "aha" moment (sorry Oprah) was hearing Jeff relating a prank he played on Nina involving tootsie rolls posing as puppy poo. This was post-Nina/pre-Kristen era. They only problem is, I had heard him tell the same story when it actually happened. Nina put softened tootsie rolls on his white sweats while Jeff was in the shower. When he saw it, he freaked out (what with him being anal, and all) Nina played it cool, picked one up and ate it - which really freaked him out! They even called her at home to share the mirth at Jeff's reaction.

Say what you will about Nina, but that was pure inspiration!

Ritchie
10-16-2007, 10:51 PM
I would like to nominate the term "Jer(k)" be used to refer to the old guy on the show for the rest of this week.

And if I could I would use the Jer(k) slap as my avatar here. Too bad we can't have custom ones.

insightbyjake
10-16-2007, 10:57 PM
Dear Jeff and Jer…

I’ve listened to your show for more than 20 years. Day after day, I’ve paid attention to your “Showgram.” This is what I’ve learned……

You, each, are bad at a first marriage. Jer, you’ve failed at marriage once and started over in San Diego by hitting on your new boss. You are into tits, clown-women-who-wear-too-much-make-up, bratty kids, and cats. (By the way, Jer, gay guys are into cats, too.) You are the mid-point between “too gay” and “too-into-tits.” No man can relate to you. (No woman can either –other than your Bozo-wife).

Jeff, you originally failed at marriage, yet still had two kids….Then you failed at marriage AGAIN.. yet still had three kids….

And, now you’re married again.. to a child bride. How is it, you spend time telling us what it is to be a good parent and spouse while sucking at both? Does the term, “hypocrite” exist in your “holier-than-thou-life?” Rumor has it, you speak at church meetings….How is that possible?!?!?!

Jeff & Jer both have a producer who is also bad at marriage. He’s a lying, spouse-abusing (allegedly), skirt-chaser, who will sell his soul for ratings. His kids hate him (allegedly), and every one he knows or knew him, is or was, a drug-using loser who is dead – see “siblings who know Tommy.”

The other “cast-members” include a socially-retarded man named Randy, who, at the age of 50, decides life is better if he moves out of mom and dad’s house; and, a 40-year-old- “teen-wanna-be”who-is-mentally-and-emotionally--a-23-forever-soon-to-be-divorced, drug-and-alcohol-addicted-loser-air-head-“hey-I-get-to-see-my-kids-today”-Britney-Spears-on-steroids-kind-of-a-big-deal-slag.

Your 11 listeners……must be:
1) stupid,….2) vapid,…..3) lazy,….4) worthless,…..5) insipid,…….6) trite,….7) shallow,….8) devoted,…9) stanch,…10) “got-too-much-time-on-my-hands” 11) 35-50-year-old-white-chicks!…….

This is a sad, pathetic, decline into retirement…. Jer is a “rat-pack” fading vision…Jeff is an “interrupting-I-think-I’m-funny-now-but-I-used-to-be-a-funny-Uncle-at-all-the-social-gatherings-cause-I-suck-at-real-conversations-kind-of-guy”….Tommy is a sad, fat, self-absorbed, loser-dad-and-ex…..Randy is a nice, but socially-retarded, Star-Wars-geek, and LBM is a shallow-pathetic-waste-of-space-bleached-blonde-drug-sniffing-wine-slamming-“hey, who’s in the news?” – “why-is-everyone-picking-on-me-cause-now-I’ve-got-to-take-the-high-road”-kind-of-16-year-old-my-brain-is-frozen-in-time-parent-who-shouldn’t-have-kids-kind-of-girl.” Rick Moorten,…count your blessings!!!!!

califbrat
10-16-2007, 11:05 PM
Been here for almost a year now.. finally registered again.. when I oculd not remember my first name/password. I think I found this site from another posting but can't remember where. Everyone her is pure inspiration

califbrat
10-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Jake .. You Are Awesome

cheekymonkey
10-16-2007, 11:12 PM
Hi, I'm Cheekymonkey and I have been sober of the J&J trainwreck for over a week. I took the station off all my car
pre-programmed stations. My hand shook as I did it, but I did!!!!

I am happy to say I am totally over it. I would like a token at 30 days please.

:cheers:

cheekymonkey
10-16-2007, 11:13 PM
I don't remember what I used to find this place originally. But, I don't have a link to this place. I just go to Google and type in 'Jeff Jer Drama' and this is what pops up. It's quite easy to find!

You all make me laugh. And I'm laughing about the number of pregnant people in this thread! (While I am not pregnant, my wife is).


Ah I may have to take a hiatus if it's in the icons. Must stay away!!

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Not sure if I've done this correctly but here's a link, ( I hope) to see Delana pre-audition for "Who Wants to be a Millionaire"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX40Vi2mXKk&mode=user&search=

:cheers:

Sapphie
10-16-2007, 11:38 PM
I would like a token at 30 days please.

:cheers:


One day at a time Cheeky....Keep coming back!

:cheers: :winkie:

mamasterls
10-16-2007, 11:42 PM
Hello...

I found this thread when I was referred to gotapex for help with my radio codes. I scrolled down to see what other threads were there and the drama thread caught my eye. This was shortly after the "Thank You" party. I had never been to one of their parties before, and I naively thought it sounded like fun, so I got a pair of tickets and took my husband along. Well, the party was lousy. Way overcrowded and the line for the food took forever (so we did not bother). At the bar, the choices were awful. Cheapo, overpriced liquor. The bartender told us "Jeff and Jer chose the drinks" and rolled his eyes in disgust. There was no room to dance, so we decided to call it an early night. We took a wrong turn and ended up in the hall near the "VIP" area. There was Jer, surrounded by cronies and totally sloshed. He was saying "I don't know you, I don't know me" or something incoherent like that and stumbling down the hall. At that point I lost what little respect, no, not respect...tolerance, I had for these clowns. It was disgusting.

So shortly after that sorry excuse for a party I found this thread and have been so happy ever since. It took me a long time lurking before I got the courage to post. I still only post rarely because all the regulars cover things so well. You guys crack me up!


I did want to add one thing from the recent Tummytube disaster. While in the car on the way to CV, Tummy was telling LC how he and Moochelle have been getting into fights pretty much nightly. He was saying "When we are in be...when we are hanging out", obviously starting to say "when we are in bed" and correcting himself too late. Ugh, the mental image made me queasy. "Separate bedrooms" = another lie (no kidding). Jerk.

WhoMe
10-16-2007, 11:56 PM
Hi all, found the thread when I Googled "Where is Laura Cain." Although I had already decided she was in rehab, I was thinking it could be health related (cancer or leukemia maybe) and thought it could be one of the kids, especially with the Charlie incident. Anyway, y'all crack me up and I love it here. Jake, Amused, Wonkatania...and many more!! I'm a 41 year old mom, I am not pregnant (medical condition says no more babies) but I do have two kids and would happily adopt another! I do not buy dinner at 7-11, let my 9 year old buy lottery tickets or eat fast food for every meal. So I guess I just need to say LBM. FHBM. J&JBM. Go Delana!!

GirlfromOR
10-17-2007, 01:28 AM
Well, miracles of all miracles. I emailed Tubby about his weight loss and he told me that he's lost 16 lbs in two weeks! I said I didn't think it was possible. He said that just jumped on the scale and he's now down two more pounds, and that is after eating a pizza for dinner. So 18 lbs in two weeks.

GirlfromOR
10-17-2007, 01:33 AM
Here is the full text of my emails to him, and his responses. His will be red, since everything he says is gospel and he's praying for our souls.

comments: I don't understand what you mean when you say you've "mathematically" lost weight. What does that mean? Either you've lost it or you haven't, it is not an illusion. It is an equation, calories in vs calories out. You cannot be burning 3500 calories per day which is what it would take to burn one lb of fat.

Yes, that's what i mean. Mathematically, I eat less and work out a ton and lose weight. Just like you said MATHEMATICALLY. I lost 16 pounds in 2 weeks mathematically . :)

But mathematically, your weightloss doesn't add up! You need to be burning 3500 calories to lose a pound of fat. So to lose more than a pound a day, which is what 16lbs in 2 weeks equals, you have to be burning MORE than 3500 calories/day. How are you doing that by taking walks and a few hikes a week? Even your yoga will no make up the difference. It doesn't make sense.

On that note, I can't believe that you weigh 195. I work in healthcare and see a lot of people on a lot of scales... people who weigh 200lbs are a lot smaller than you. You make your blog about weightloss but it seems like you are not being honest. I can't imagine that anyone thinks that you weigh less than 200 lbs. People are believing the things that you say in your blog, and you should be honest. Your constant lies are astounding. How much do you really weigh?

I'm sorry you are losing sleep over this. Don't know what to tell you other than have a good night MATHEMATICALL speaking. I'm happy and feeling very good about things. I need to lose a few more pounds, but to sit at home wondering if I weigh more or less than 200 pounds is kind of funny.
May I get permission to read your email on the air> I won't sayyour name. I think it's funny.
I weigh 195 and I hope you don't lose sleep over it.
take care and thanks for reading the blogs and all that stuff.
I just ate a pizza. OH NO, maybe it's 196

(I added the underlining under the part about a pizza. Gross!)

GirlfromOR
10-17-2007, 01:36 AM
Losing sleep? It's not even 9:00pm. I work nights, so I'm wide awake. Sure, go ahead and read my email on the air. It is about time people start questioning you and exposing you for the fraud that you are. However, you can only read my email if I can come on the air and tell the listeners about how you called me because you were so mad last time I called you out in an email. Remember that? You kept asking to talk to my mom? Oh, and I can also tell them about how you told me there would be a news story about your mom and her breast cancer! There was no news story. I'll also share with them the emails I have from you calling me names. They will LOVE that. So yeah, why don't we schedule a time to share stories on the air! It'll be the first real bit your show has done in a while!

LOL

What are you laughing at? It wasn't funny. Those are all emails that YOU have sent to me. I have saved them, and can prove that you said those things to me. What is so funny Tommy? Do you not have a defense against what I said to you? Or do you just not want me to come on the air and share your little hate mails with everyone?

Why would I need to defend that?
Nothing I have ever said to you needs a defense.
I wish you the best.
I just jumped on the scale: 193 baby!
Take care

Hmm... so you don't need to defend yourself against harassing people who email you by calling them on the telephone? I know I'm not the only one you've harassed this way.You don't need to defend lying about serious health issues? You've made your self this public advocate for cancer, yet you lie and say your mom has cancer, that there will be some breaking news story about it? Yet you never mentioned your mom when you "finally got it" after the practice walk or during TummyTube. Maybe Barbara Lee would like to hear about your lies.

So you've lost what... 2lbs since yesterday? Even after your carne asada buritto for breakfast and your BLT for lunch? You are a miracle, considering lard circulates through your veins. You never tell the truth do you? Do you know how many calories you ate on Monday? You couldn't have walked it off, sorry. Lies, Lies, Lies.

P.S. I know you were not at the wedding. I know that the breathalyzer segment was not filmed a few weeks ago... there was proof of that right there during the bit, yet you tell people who question it that it was pre-recorded. You know you weren't at the wedding. You know that your mom wasn't in the hospital this past weekend. You say whatever it is that pops into your head in order to garner sympathy from people, or to try to justify your lies. You must think your listeners are stupid and won't catch on.

Here's a challenge for you: Why don't you weigh yourself live on Tommytube next week. Let us see the number for ourselves. People are skeptical of your magic weight loss. You are claiming 18lbs in 2 weeks. Prove it.

Wow, you need assistance in a bad way. Take care.
I wish I was lying about that.
I wish you had some dignity in you not to talk about someone having it or not.
I pray one day you will not go through what family members go through.
I am asking you to please stop emailing me.
My family is certainly none of your business and this email of yours certainly shows you have too much interest in my personal life.

Please leave me alone.

You don't pay attention do you? I told you in an email about your motives for the 3-day that I HAD CANCER for several years. You didn't even respond to that because it has nothing to do with YOU. I don't need any assistance. That is just your way of putting me down for questioning you. What do I need assistance with?

TELL me about dignity, Tommy. I dare you to tell me how you act with dignity in ANY area of your life. You make your family a public spectacle and then complain when people bring it up to you. It doesn't work that way.

**He hasn't responded yet. I'm sure he's getting his money's worth from Mooch instead**

srdude
10-17-2007, 02:46 AM
It's funny how he says he only needs to lose a few more pounds. From what amused says, he is 5ft. 3 in. Even if you go with a large frame. he should weigh at most about 147(per a weighloss website). he still needs to lose about 50 pounds.

I rarely post, but love to read all your post. BTW, since there were so many new mommies to be, i would just like to share that my wife is also pregnant. due in Feb. Our 2nd child.

happy posting to you all.

:)

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 06:05 AM
Glad to see all the new folks coming in. Welcome, welcome, all are welcome here, come into the light....

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 06:06 AM
I just realized something...my boyfriend is around 190 pounds and he does not carry the gut like tubby does. And Oregon girl in the span of the emails between you two didn't he loose 4 pounds? I didn't realize emailing burned so many calories...

he is such a prick.

Yogi85
10-17-2007, 06:15 AM
Tummy's Blog --

Wednesday October 17, 2007 4am
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 8:46am

For dinner we went to a Benihana type place and there we were with the table all to ourselves and the chef in front of us doing tricks with the knives and food. Everyone ordered STEAK, but I got the STEAK AND LOBSTER. It was a moment for me, because I watched the chef put in all the oil and butter and stuff I say NO to. Then the chef started frying the rice and throwing on butter all over it and making volcano's and fire for us at the table. I was thinking should I eat or what? Ordering something doesn't mean you have to eat it. So, there I was face to face with a plate full of fried rice, steak, lobster, and veggies. Did I eat the food? Did I stay true to my diet? Did I have the willpower to say NO? Well, I absolutely ate the food and I could of ate Eddie's too. :munch: IT was good and I don't feel one ounce of guilt, but I probably went up a pound or two, but hey, it was so frickin good.

Love,
Tommy
----

mathmatically losing weight, one pound at a time. :disa:

potus
10-17-2007, 06:35 AM
I also found this site when they were switching stations. I had googled Jef & Jer trying to find out what had happened.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 06:37 AM
Tummy's Blog --

Wednesday October 17, 2007 4am
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 8:46am

For dinner we went to a Benihana type place and there we were with the table all to ourselves and the chef in front of us doing tricks with the knives and food. Everyone ordered STEAK, but I got the STEAK AND LOBSTER. It was a moment for me, because I watched the chef put in all the oil and butter and stuff I say NO to. Then the chef started frying the rice and throwing on butter all over it and making volcano's and fire for us at the table. I was thinking should I eat or what? Ordering something doesn't mean you have to eat it. So, there I was face to face with a plate full of fried rice, steak, lobster, and veggies. Did I eat the food? Did I stay true to my diet? Did I have the willpower to say NO? Well, I absolutely ate the food and I could of ate Eddie's too. :munch: IT was good and I don't feel one ounce of guilt, but I probably went up a pound or two, but hey, it was so frickin good.

Love,
Tommy
----

mathmatically losing weight, one pound at a time. :disa:

Wait so he ate all that food plus a frozen pizza when he was emailing oregon girl? Thats absolutely disguisting if its true...eating steak, lobster and fried rice should have filled him up for the night, what a pig.

and after eating all that and a pizza he still managed to loose 2 lbs...wow....he is such an arrogant jerk.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 06:46 AM
Question for GirlfromOR

Was tommy responding automatically to your emails or like how much time was inbetween each email?

I only ask because he seems to attack everyone and say we need lives but if he is responding to everyone so quickly, don't you think he's the one that needs a life?

He responded pretty quick with my email, which I plan to post Im just trying to wait and see if he is planning on responding to me before I post them...

texasmommy
10-17-2007, 06:59 AM
Wednesday October 17, 2007 4am: Happy Holidays! Does that kind of freak you out? For me, there's only 4 more paychecks before Christmas!!! Now, that freaks me out. Yesterday, I actually started shopping. This is the earliest I've ever been shopping for stuff. I actually have leftover gifts or "not sure where to put the gifts" from last years Christmas in my living room. I think there's an unopened Christmas gift in the garage from 2 years ago.

Later on today, I'm going to post my breaking and entering information on the website to find a family this year. Do you know of a family that may need some help this year during the holidays? I mean real help. If so, email me through the website and tell me about them and Iwill try my hardest to choose the right ones.

I was with Eddie at the mall yesterday and he wanted a few things but Christmas is right around the corner. So, I did what every strict father in America does: I bought the stuff and told him "this is the last time".....It's probably not the last time and I wish I was more strict, but I guess I'm the "softer or easiest to trick" parent in to getting stuff. Eddie is funny, because he'll just want a shirt or two, but my little baby girl Vanessa going to the mall equals shopping spree. I miss the LIMITED TOO days with Vanessa, now it's all about Hollister, Abercrombie, Charlotte Russe.

One thing for sure that I wish I did better as the kids grew up was to say NO more often. I just wanted to spoil the heck out of them and I thought it would just be a year or two of spoiling but it's become a little more than that. Eddie turns 11 and Vanessa turn 13 soon. It was yesterday when I thought they were 3 and 5.

When I was 13, HOLY BALLS! That was 7th or 8th grade. Holy balls. I wish I could put a GPS system on my kids, because that was the age where it all began with many stuff for me. HOLY BALLS----now that freaks me out more than Christmas around the corner.

Hey, you want to know a secret? Do you want me to tell you about Jingle Ball? Let me know if you want some information and I will see if I can post some info for you or not. I don't want to get in trouble, but then again, I always get in trouble. ") Hey, that looks like a new smiley face I made by mistake. ") :)

Best part of my day yesterday was being at a skateboard park and watching Eddie skateboard. I'm trying to figure out if I'm just a proud dad bragging about Eddie or if I really believe he's pretty darn good. I think he's pretty darn good. Yesterday, he was keeping up with some bigger kids and just OWNING the park. He was landing tricks and doing stuff with such confidence that I just wanted to YELL, "hey, that's my little boy over there". My little boy ain't so little anymore. He told me the cutest story about his girlfriend yesterday that I won't write about, but it was so precious of a story. Yesterday, I did try to teach him about being nice to girls and all that stuff and he listened, but my little boy has a puppy love romance going on and it's so cute to listen to him talk about it.

For dinner we went to a Benihana type place and there we were with the table all to ourselves and the chef in front of us doing tricks with the knives and food. Everyone ordered STEAK, but I got the STEAK AND LOBSTER. It was a moment for me, because I watched the chef put in all the oil and butter and stuff I say NO to. Then the chef started frying the rice and throwing on butter all over it and making volcano's and fire for us at the table. I was thinking should I eat or what? Ordering something doesn't mean you have to eat it. So, there I was face to face with a plate full of fried rice, steak, lobster, and veggies. Did I eat the food? Did I stay true to my diet? Did I have the willpower to say NO? Well, I absolutely ate the food and I could of ate Eddie's too. IT was good and I don't feel one ounce of guilt, but I probably went up a pound or two, but hey, it was so frickin good.

Love,
Tommy

SDGirl87
10-17-2007, 07:00 AM
Howdy.

I found you all by googling "davecain" right after LBH (hehe) came back. I went back and read pretty much from the start.

Ya know, I have to say one good thing about our boy Tummy. There is very little redeeming about him, but his Breaking and Entering Christmas is a pretty terrific thing. I don't care WHY he does it...I think it's pretty special. I think that it teaches his kids the right things. It's just so sad that it's the ONLY positive thing he adds to their lives. I feel sort of the same way about the 3 Day though I'm appalled at his LACK of understanding of what it's really all about, and his utter contempt for fulfilling the mission of raising money. In a moment of weakness, I sent him the name of a very dear loved one who lost her battle a few years back. Her life mattered and she is missed. Even if it's a false show, her name will be honored by someone, somehow.

Having said that, it's fun to watch him squirm as the noose tightens around his lying neck. The problem with telling so many lies is that one forgets what one said to whom and eventually the house of cards comes tumbling down. Look at LBM. Her entire world is gone all because she lied to so many people, including herself. Rehab takes guts and courage, and I applaud her for doing it for whatever reason, but I share with the group here who question how real it was to her. To not know EXACTLY how many days she's been sober???? I don't think so.

Ok...that's it for now :) I'll pass the microphone on to someone else for their vent. I'm so glad to be here!!!:wavey2:

Amused
10-17-2007, 07:03 AM
Hi, I'm Cheekymonkey and I have been sober of the J&J trainwreck for over a week. I took the station off all my car
pre-programmed stations. My hand shook as I did it, but I did!!!!

I am happy to say I am totally over it. I would like a token at 30 days please.

:cheers:

I will hand deliver it :cheers:

texasmommy
10-17-2007, 07:04 AM
When I was 13, HOLY BALLS! That was 7th or 8th grade. Holy balls. I wish I could put a GPS system on my kids, because that was the age where it all began with many stuff for me. HOLY BALLS----now that freaks me out more than Christmas around the corner.


What the heck is Holy Balls? How many times do you have to say it? It just sounds nasty.

Nothing about you is HOLY XXLFH!! Sorry buddy.

Amused
10-17-2007, 07:18 AM
Tummy's Blog --

Wednesday October 17, 2007 4am
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 8:46am

For dinner we went to a Benihana type place and there we were with the table all to ourselves and the chef in front of us doing tricks with the knives and food. Everyone ordered STEAK, but I got the STEAK AND LOBSTER. It was a moment for me, because I watched the chef put in all the oil and butter and stuff I say NO to. Then the chef started frying the rice and throwing on butter all over it and making volcano's and fire for us at the table. I was thinking should I eat or what? Ordering something doesn't mean you have to eat it. So, there I was face to face with a plate full of fried rice, steak, lobster, and veggies. Did I eat the food? Did I stay true to my diet? Did I have the willpower to say NO? Well, I absolutely ate the food and I could of ate Eddie's too. :munch: IT was good and I don't feel one ounce of guilt, but I probably went up a pound or two, but hey, it was so frickin good.

Love,
Tommy
----

mathmatically losing weight, one pound at a time. :disa:

He's so delusional... The only person there was Eddie & Fatty. As usual Vanessa came home after school. WTF FH, get a clue... it's okay if you are alone or just with Eddie! YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIE. Nobody cares if you spent the extra $10 on lobster. It's always about $$$$$, how much you have, what you bought, how much you've spent on 3 engagement rings, your daughter's new phone, trips to the mall with the kids, blah blah freakty blah. Ugh, that is ALL that you have to define yourself with. You are meaningless and wouldn't be missed if you were abducted by aliens.

BTW: 5' 4" 250 lbs XXXL shirt 40x28 levis

That's all.

SDGirl87
10-17-2007, 07:44 AM
He's so delusional... The only person there was Eddie & Fatty. As usual Vanessa came home after school. WTF FH, get a clue... it's okay if you are alone or just with Eddie! YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIE. Nobody cares if you spent the extra $10 on lobster. It's always about $$$$$, how much you have, what you bought, how much you've spent on 3 engagement rings, your daughter's new phone, trips to the mall with the kids, blah blah freakty blah. Ugh, that is ALL that you have to define yourself with. You are meaningless and wouldn't be missed if you were abducted by aliens.

BTW: 5' 4" 250 lbs XXXL shirt 40x28 levis

That's all.


BAM!!!!!WHAMMO!!!!:cheers:

boris85
10-17-2007, 08:25 AM
Coffee erupted from my nose when I heard Laura Loser's horrible commercial for a mortgage company (even though she has no house). She had freaky Evan Munster on and they were talking about how much they love their house and feel so good and safe there. She said that the mortgage company lets families get homes and helps them stay together, blah, blah, blah. Is she high? She has no home!! This is a guilt trip in commercial clothing for Dave...

newgal
10-17-2007, 08:32 AM
and a mortgage helps a family stay together?? then hello what happened to Laura?? Don't they have a mortgage? Seems to me that mortgage is not doing it's job of keeping her family together ...

zodiac
10-17-2007, 09:06 AM
Coffee erupted from my nose when I heard Laura Loser's horrible commercial for a mortgage company (even though she has no house). She had freaky Evan Munster on and they were talking about how much they love their house and feel so good and safe there. She said that the mortgage company lets families get homes and helps them stay together, blah, blah, blah. Is she high? She has no home!! This is a guilt trip in commercial clothing for Dave...

I was in the Starbucks drive-thru getting my morning fix and heard this commercial and laughed out loud. She doesn't have a family. She doesn't have a home. Paramount Equity Mortgage didn't help them stay together. And she asks Evan 'Do you love our home, Evan?' Girl, you are living in dream world! You had the dream and you crushed it to oblivion.
At one time I thought that Laura had such an awesome life. Great hubby, two cute kids, a cool job and a social life. And when I found this thread while she was in rehab it really opened my eyes thanks to all of you.
The thing is, I have all those things too and I couldn't IMAGINE being so selfish as to toss it to the wind. I honestly want her to get her sh*t together and be happy again, but she just doesn't seem to have the know-how to accomplish it.
Laura, get some counseling, it can only help you.

YoungAmerican
10-17-2007, 09:09 AM
He's so delusional... The only person there was Eddie & Fatty. As usual Vanessa came home after school. WTF FH, get a clue... it's okay if you are alone or just with Eddie! YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIE. Nobody cares if you spent the extra $10 on lobster. It's always about $$$$$, how much you have, what you bought, how much you've spent on 3 engagement rings, your daughter's new phone, trips to the mall with the kids, blah blah freakty blah. Ugh, that is ALL that you have to define yourself with. You are meaningless and wouldn't be missed if you were abducted by aliens.

BTW: 5' 4" 250 lbs XXXL shirt 40x28 levis

That's all.

I think the aliens have already visited Fatty and are just waiting for their spawn to erupt from his tummy. Hey, that must be how he loses weight "mathmatically". Just like a tapeworm, the alien incubating inside him actually eats what he shovels into his fat piehole and it's the alien that is gaining weight and FH that is "mathmatically" losing it. :abduct:

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 09:10 AM
They are playing the whole Boob song thing again...I might just

have to rap off another quick verse. Wish I had the smarts to make

a sound bite and send it in to them.

listener13
10-17-2007, 09:11 AM
Not sure if I've done this correctly but here's a link, ( I hope) to see Delana pre-audition for "Who Wants to be a Millionaire"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX40Vi2mXKk&mode=user&search=

:cheers:

Looks like Delayna has several videos - the one with her dogs at dog beach is really cute - her dogs LOVE playing with the frisbee (not!)

Hope she makes it onto Millionaire - she's obviously the only one on the showgram who could ever even pass the test. But, Jeff is the king of "The Price is Right" - you really have to know how much food costs to be on there. If they had a "The Price is Right - the Mexican Food Edition" - Tommy would win that hands-down. And if there were a "The Price is Right - the Booze and Drugs Edition" - LBM would be all over that, with her big horse-face.

listener13
10-17-2007, 09:23 AM
He's so delusional...
BTW: 5' 4" 250 lbs XXXL shirt 40x28 levis

Honestly and realistically, he's 250 lbs. But MATHEMATICALLY, he's 193. Come on, Amused - get with the MATHEMATICAL program!:cheers:

snoopiebug
10-17-2007, 09:27 AM
I have been a lurker for a long time and was a listen to J&J more years then I want to admit for ....
We moved to Boise and I missed the daily dirt so I used to check the site saw the whole Krustin said yes and wondered ok what happened to Nina.... googled and the rest is history

My ex-( add what ever name you want can't think of one name can post with out getting flagged) same as FH, I got lucky he fell off the face of the earth.... my older girls thankfully realized what an ass ( for lack of a beter word) he was on their own.... Just know FH is gonna grow old very alone... all about karma

Amused you Rock!!! From a mom with 6 kids ( my husband and I are blended) just keep doing what you are doing... they will be fine, they get it

GeezLouise
10-17-2007, 09:35 AM
Well I might as well join the club as another long time lurker first time poster. Found the sight searching for info on the LBM drama a few months ago. What a joke that was! All the hype like it was something big and wonderous. Well I am sure you will all agree no one is surprised in the outcome or how she continues to be herself. Just another reason for her to get attention. Anyhow...love you guys and enjoy sharing your insights! You all crack me up! Love your show :)

BecInCA
10-17-2007, 09:43 AM
:wavey2: It's great to have you all aboard! I bet we might be close to having more than "11 listeners" on this board. One piece of advice: make sure you post every once in awhile so that we know who's all out there. I really hope that there are peeps from the Showgram who lurk on this board. They could learn alot by reading what we all have to say, don't you agree?

LBM (still) and FHBM (always)! :wavey2:

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 09:43 AM
SDgirl87, you said:
"Ya know, I have to say one good thing about our boy Tummy. There is very little redeeming about him, but his Breaking and Entering Christmas is a pretty terrific thing. I don't care WHY he does it...I think it's pretty special. I think that it teaches his kids the right things. It's just so sad that it's the ONLY positive thing he adds to their lives."

I just have a burr under my saddle on this. First, yes, the outcome is nice for the family. That said, I wish I thought for just one second that he is doing it for a good reason. First of all, it's a radio stunt. I don't think he invented it, I think he just picked it up from one of his "how to produce a great and popular morning show!" seminars that he has attended over the years. I do care why he does it....why? To try to scratch an itch for himself. He feeds on the kindness of others who honestly participate and donate out of the goodness of their hearts.

I guaranteedoodle you that he spends a great deal of time on this...and attention. Sure, he wants to "Teach" his kids to be part of this...but it's a sick thing. The main thing that his kids are going to "learn" is not what he is "Teaching" on the surface. It's the curse of the good-time parents.

This is an all-encompassing ego thing for him. He is cultivating all this emotion to SHOW his kids he is a good guy. That people love him, admire him. It's not about the event or the particular family, it's about him. These people are all just "supporting actors" in the "Isn't Tommy a wonderful guy" show he puts on.

Maybe I am not explaining it well, but it's like when he says he is teaching Eddie to be nice to girls. Just because it comes out of his mouth does not mean that Eddie hasn't already learned EXACTLY what FH really thinks about women. If Eddie learns anything about respect for women in general, it's not going to be from Mr. Philanderer.

My ex is nowhere near FH level in this respect, but he often does pull this kind of "look, everyone thinks I'm a great guy" for his daughter. He gets a lot of love from parents when he brings extra water and snacks after sports events. He doesn't mention that he cleaned out MY refrigerator and took the snacks right off the counter that I had bought for the following day...."Oh," he'll say. "I thought you put them there for me to take." Now, it usually ends up all the drinks and snacks are gone before his own daughter gets any...but he just tells her she is being selfish. "Everyone else thanks me, and all you can say to me is 'Where's mine?'"

That difference between truth and reality is a big eye opener for children. He often does this kind of thing...extends himself unbelievably for mere acquaintances, or to drive someone else's kid all over town--but will tell her "I'm taking a nap, can you get your Mom to pick you up? She can leave work (and drive the 10 miles, while he lives 1 mile from school) and get you, just wait for her." You bet your boots I go pick her up. And he knows I will.

That kind of stuff is incredibly wounding to children. Yet these guys are totally oblivious--they see everything from only their point of view. And FH can always retreat for a few days and let the stuff blow over, and pretend it didn't happen, since the kids don't live with him. And, of course, buy some treats to make himself feel again, like the great guy he is sure he is.

I think the most telling thing about his life is how he has to keep moving, moving moving all day long. He is not happy with himself, he's not comfortable in his own skin. He doesn't really have a "home," he has a house with all "the stuff that money can buy." That's it.

snoopiebug
10-17-2007, 09:58 AM
Wabbitsd very nicely put

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Wabbit...I knew there was a reason I'm always so drawn to your posts. First of all thanks for your eloquent and extremely insightful post. You said exactly what I wanted to say.

Second...I think you and I have the same Ex. If not the same then the identical twin. I swear, I thought you were describing my own life!

SDchick
10-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Losing sleep? It's not even 9:00pm. I work nights, so I'm wide awake. Sure, go ahead and read my email on the air. It is about time people start questioning you and exposing you for the fraud that you are. However, you can only read my email if I can come on the air and tell the listeners about how you called me because you were so mad last time I called you out in an email. Remember that? You kept asking to talk to my mom? Oh, and I can also tell them about how you told me there would be a news story about your mom and her breast cancer! There was no news story. I'll also share with them the emails I have from you calling me names. They will LOVE that. So yeah, why don't we schedule a time to share stories on the air! It'll be the first real bit your show has done in a while!

LOL

What are you laughing at? It wasn't funny. Those are all emails that YOU have sent to me. I have saved them, and can prove that you said those things to me. What is so funny Tommy? Do you not have a defense against what I said to you? Or do you just not want me to come on the air and share your little hate mails with everyone?

Why would I need to defend that?
Nothing I have ever said to you needs a defense.
I wish you the best.
I just jumped on the scale: 193 baby!
Take care

Hmm... so you don't need to defend yourself against harassing people who email you by calling them on the telephone? I know I'm not the only one you've harassed this way.You don't need to defend lying about serious health issues? You've made your self this public advocate for cancer, yet you lie and say your mom has cancer, that there will be some breaking news story about it? Yet you never mentioned your mom when you "finally got it" after the practice walk or during TummyTube. Maybe Barbara Lee would like to hear about your lies.

So you've lost what... 2lbs since yesterday? Even after your carne asada buritto for breakfast and your BLT for lunch? You are a miracle, considering lard circulates through your veins. You never tell the truth do you? Do you know how many calories you ate on Monday? You couldn't have walked it off, sorry. Lies, Lies, Lies.

P.S. I know you were not at the wedding. I know that the breathalyzer segment was not filmed a few weeks ago... there was proof of that right there during the bit, yet you tell people who question it that it was pre-recorded. You know you weren't at the wedding. You know that your mom wasn't in the hospital this past weekend. You say whatever it is that pops into your head in order to garner sympathy from people, or to try to justify your lies. You must think your listeners are stupid and won't catch on.

Here's a challenge for you: Why don't you weigh yourself live on Tommytube next week. Let us see the number for ourselves. People are skeptical of your magic weight loss. You are claiming 18lbs in 2 weeks. Prove it.

Wow, you need assistance in a bad way. Take care.
I wish I was lying about that.
I wish you had some dignity in you not to talk about someone having it or not.
I pray one day you will not go through what family members go through.
I am asking you to please stop emailing me.
My family is certainly none of your business and this email of yours certainly shows you have too much interest in my personal life.

Please leave me alone.

You don't pay attention do you? I told you in an email about your motives for the 3-day that I HAD CANCER for several years. You didn't even respond to that because it has nothing to do with YOU. I don't need any assistance. That is just your way of putting me down for questioning you. What do I need assistance with?

TELL me about dignity, Tommy. I dare you to tell me how you act with dignity in ANY area of your life. You make your family a public spectacle and then complain when people bring it up to you. It doesn't work that way.

**He hasn't responded yet. I'm sure he's getting his money's worth from Mooch instead**
Oh wow, thanks so much for sharing all of that. Fabulous! My favorite part was how he totally ignored everything you called him on regarding this past weekend.

O.B.ehave!
10-17-2007, 10:26 AM
Hey Everyone!
Haven't posted for a while. Been busy! Though lurking ocassionally to check in on all this board's lovable madness, I haven't felt inspired to post again until today...
So who else caught the "Smell" segment on this morning's "Spewgram???" When they were all chatting about how certain places have certain identifiable smells...? Such as people's homes, stores, and other places? I couldn't agree more, guys! I'm sure that anyone who walked into the Star 94.1 studios during the weekday a.m daypart hours would smell the unmistakable scent of B.S.!!!! And FH's stinky cloud of smug delusion would surely add a sizeable measure of putrid pollution of its own. [if there was an available icon of a smiley holding his nose, I would be inserting it here] That guy soooooo needs to get OVER himself already!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's so gross.

DreamerGal
10-17-2007, 10:38 AM
Wabbit...I knew there was a reason I'm always so drawn to your posts. First of all thanks for your eloquent and extremely insightful post. You said exactly what I wanted to say.

Second...I think you and I have the same Ex. If not the same then the identical twin. I swear, I thought you were describing my own life!

Well, apparently, our exes are triplets! I feel your pain, Wabbit and Sapphie ... been there, glad to escape. And as I said earlier, my ex seems to be a better dad to young adults (21 and 19) than he was to children. So there is hope for improvement.

Ritchie
10-17-2007, 10:47 AM
Well, apparently, our exes are triplets! I feel your pain, Wabbit and Sapphie ... been there, glad to escape. And as I said earlier, my ex seems to be a better dad to young adults (21 and 19) than he was to children. So there is hope for improvement.

Why do women constantly marry these idiots then?

DreamerGal
10-17-2007, 10:56 AM
Why do women constantly marry these idiots then?

If I knew the answer to that, I'd be RICH, I tell ya, Ritchie! (Not to mention being able to avoid those years of heartache ...)

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 10:56 AM
SDgirl87, you said:
"Ya know, I have to say one good thing about our boy Tummy. There is very little redeeming about him, but his Breaking and Entering Christmas is a pretty terrific thing. I don't care WHY he does it...I think it's pretty special. I think that it teaches his kids the right things. It's just so sad that it's the ONLY positive thing he adds to their lives."

I just have a burr under my saddle on this. First, yes, the outcome is nice for the family. That said, I wish I thought for just one second that he is doing it for a good reason. First of all, it's a radio stunt. I don't think he invented it, I think he just picked it up from one of his "how to produce a great and popular morning show!" seminars that he has attended over the years. I do care why he does it....why? To try to scratch an itch for himself. He feeds on the kindness of others who honestly participate and donate out of the goodness of their hearts.

I guaranteedoodle you that he spends a great deal of time on this...and attention. Sure, he wants to "Teach" his kids to be part of this...but it's a sick thing. The main thing that his kids are going to "learn" is not what he is "Teaching" on the surface. It's the curse of the good-time parents.

This is an all-encompassing ego thing for him. He is cultivating all this emotion to SHOW his kids he is a good guy. That people love him, admire him. It's not about the event or the particular family, it's about him. These people are all just "supporting actors" in the "Isn't Tommy a wonderful guy" show he puts on.

Maybe I am not explaining it well, but it's like when he says he is teaching Eddie to be nice to girls. Just because it comes out of his mouth does not mean that Eddie hasn't already learned EXACTLY what FH really thinks about women. If Eddie learns anything about respect for women in general, it's not going to be from Mr. Philanderer.

My ex is nowhere near FH level in this respect, but he often does pull this kind of "look, everyone thinks I'm a great guy" for his daughter. He gets a lot of love from parents when he brings extra water and snacks after sports events. He doesn't mention that he cleaned out MY refrigerator and took the snacks right off the counter that I had bought for the following day...."Oh," he'll say. "I thought you put them there for me to take." Now, it usually ends up all the drinks and snacks are gone before his own daughter gets any...but he just tells her she is being selfish. "Everyone else thanks me, and all you can say to me is 'Where's mine?'"

That difference between truth and reality is a big eye opener for children. He often does this kind of thing...extends himself unbelievably for mere acquaintances, or to drive someone else's kid all over town--but will tell her "I'm taking a nap, can you get your Mom to pick you up? She can leave work (and drive the 10 miles, while he lives 1 mile from school) and get you, just wait for her." You bet your boots I go pick her up. And he knows I will.

That kind of stuff is incredibly wounding to children. Yet these guys are totally oblivious--they see everything from only their point of view. And FH can always retreat for a few days and let the stuff blow over, and pretend it didn't happen, since the kids don't live with him. And, of course, buy some treats to make himself feel again, like the great guy he is sure he is.

I think the most telling thing about his life is how he has to keep moving, moving moving all day long. He is not happy with himself, he's not comfortable in his own skin. He doesn't really have a "home," he has a house with all "the stuff that money can buy." That's it.

Well I am not a parent but I have mentioned it on the board before that this explains my dad spot on. My dad thinks he did a great job raising me and that's far from the case. He was never around and my dad reminds me a lot of FH. He lives in this dream and its the furthest thing from reality. It's sad and to all those parents who have husbands who are like this well lemme tell you how your kids will respond to their father's behavior. I'm 24 now and I talk to my dad a few times a year. He is exactly like FH where everything is about him. If we talk on the phone and I mention anything about me it some how manages to go back to him. I can never get a word in about what is going on in my life cause its all about who he has met. My dad owns a coffee chain and meet celebrities and I spend more time hearing about who he has client meetings with then the stuff I would actually care to know about like how life is going for him outside of work. I've been dating the same guy for almost three years and my dad has never met him and he hardly can remember his name. I mean part of me feels sad because I know that one day in like 5 or 10 years from now he will wake up to reality and realize he really missed out on my life.
I dont like resenting someone in my family but when they make it so easy its hard not too. My parents divorced when i was three and from about the age of 7 I knew something wasn't right and as I got older the resentment continued to grow. It only makes me appreciate even more how great of a job my mom did raising me. Just continue to be a great parent and when your kids get older they will remember all the idiotic things dad did to try and buy their affection, and then they will remember that mom was their to be a parent.

sorry to blab...I just felt like i needed to share that because no matter how much someone like Tommy tries to buy their kids affection it wont mean much once they get older...

ok im done!

11ListenerNot
10-17-2007, 10:59 AM
Laura's Diary, October 17th, 2007
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 12:30pm

Dear Diary,

Precious moment from last night:

Charlie, Ev and I were doing super-happy-criss-cross (that's where we snuggle up on the L-shaped couch and watch TV). Char wanted to watch a "scary" movie, so we found a really old version of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Probably one of the last PG rated scary flicks. That's not the precious part. I was laying there between Char and Ev, all was quiet, when all of a sudden Charlie leans over me and says to Evan "You know who I love? I love my little sister. I love you, Evan."

Then, Ev looks up and says "You know who I love? I love my big brother, Charlie." Then, they both piled on top of me and told me they loved me, too. It was a virtual love-fest. I pretty much melted into the couch. Davecain and I must be doing something right. Charlie takes such good care of her, although he did throw her two baby dolls over the fence into the pool yesterday. And, she respects him so much.

I went through some of the boxes in the garage yesterday. I found my boots! It's kind of cool having to go through boxes of clothes. I haven't seen them in so long, it's kind of like I have a whole new wardrobe! I left all the clothes there though, because I just cannot stuff another thing into the closet I'm currently using…Tommy's.

I did find the Halloween decorations. The kids loved it when I brought out the hooded rapping skeleton and the scary doorbell. I bought a lot of cool decorations last year! Yesterday, I was at Kragen Auto Parts. Yes, it was the very first time I have ever been in a car parts store. I needed washer fluid. At the counter, I spotted these cool little Halloween flashlights that have eight different scary sounds and three different light filters. I had to buy three…one for Char, one for Ev and one for my "other son" Chip. Those kids had such a blast playing with those things last night. We turned off all the lights and tried to scare Grandpa. Fun.

My back hurts a lot today because of the couch sleeping, but I loved every single minute of my night with my babies snuggled next to me. If I could be anywhere in the whole wide world, that's where I'd choose to be…right there in between those two beauties.


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We turned off all the lights and tried to scare Grandpa. Fun.


What???

11ListenerNot
10-17-2007, 11:01 AM
When I read all of the nasty e-mails and threatening phone calls that Flubby (I like that too!) made, I thought why don't you pick on somebody your own size? There are a FEW out there FH!

listener13
10-17-2007, 11:03 AM
interesting how they both didn't say they love LBM.

SDchick
10-17-2007, 11:04 AM
Well I am not a parent but I have mentioned it on the board before that this explains my dad spot on. My dad thinks he did a great job raising me and that's far from the case. He was never around and my dad reminds me a lot of FH. He lives in this dream and its the furthest thing from reality. It's sad and to all those parents who have husbands who are like this well lemme tell you how your kids will respond to their father's behavior. I'm 24 now and I talk to my dad a few times a year. He is exactly like FH where everything is about him. If we talk on the phone and I mention anything about me it some how manages to go back to him. I can never get a word in about what is going on in my life cause its all about who he has met. My dad owns a coffee chain and meet celebrities and I spend more time hearing about who he has client meetings with then the stuff I would actually care to know about like how life is going for him outside of work. I've been dating the same guy for almost three years and my dad has never met him and he hardly can remember his name. I mean part of me feels sad because I know that one day in like 5 or 10 years from now he will wake up to reality and realize he really missed out on my life.
I dont like resenting someone in my family but when they make it so easy its hard not too. My parents divorced when i was three and from about the age of 7 I knew something wasn't right and as I got older the resentment continued to grow. It only makes me appreciate even more how great of a job my mom did raising me. Just continue to be a great parent and when your kids get older they will remember all the idiotic things dad did to try and buy their affection, and then they will remember that mom was their to be a parent.

sorry to blab...I just felt like i needed to share that because no matter how much someone like Tommy tries to buy their kids affection it wont mean much once they get older...

ok im done!
Thank you for sharing that part of your life with us. I think you will reach a lot of people who have either experienced what you've gone through, or will see in their exes (or current mates) what you've described about your dad.

UNfortunately, the one man who should really read your post will not dare see in himself what you've shared. He's untouchable, incapable of reality.

:wavey2: Hi Tommy!

MissThany
10-17-2007, 11:06 AM
I came here when Fat Wallet closed down...it used to be a forum where pople shared words and stuff from radio stations with promotional programs. I remember that "points" page started getting populated with groanings and witty remarks about how stale and crummy the spewgram had gotten. I knew these folks were my kind of people. AT one point, the real points collectors started complaining about the comedy, and a poster thoughtfully started a whole new thread, just for us folks who were tired of all the drama on J&J.

I am from the FatWallet move as well. Once FW closed down their "Off Topic" section someone found this board. I selfishly kept the link to the forum a secret from my friends until they expressed their distaste for the show. Only then did I feel they were worthy to receive the precious link!

SDchick
10-17-2007, 11:09 AM
Laura's Diary, October 17th, 2007
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 12:30pm

Dear Diary,

Precious moment from last night:
Those kids had such a blast playing with those things last night. We turned off all the lights and tried to scare Grandpa. Fun.

My back hurts a lot today because of the couch sleeping, but I loved every single minute of my night with my babies snuggled next to me. If I could be anywhere in the whole wide world, that's where I'd choose to be…right there in between those two beauties.


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We turned off all the lights and tried to scare Grandpa. Fun.


What???
Okay, so this makes me assume (I know, ass-u-me) that Dave does not trust Laura to be alone in his house? So Grandpa is overseeing things?

And it's funny that she's not using their old bed. I guess I just took it for granted that she would sleep there, since it's technically still her property as well. I wonder if she'd still be sleeping on the couch of Grandpa wasn't there!!!! I almost respected her for not using their old bed. Makes me think Dave has REALLY moved on, maybe another woman has since been in that bed? I hate speculating! I want information!!!!

wonkatania
10-17-2007, 11:11 AM
He says he is losing weight, however, he is gaining it at an alarming rate:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1013/tommyexplodesoc8.gif

pax
10-17-2007, 11:11 AM
I think LBM is talking about her dead father when she says they scared Grandpa.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 11:16 AM
Well I am going to assume the tubby is too busy to email me back. Keep in mind that my emails were very friendly but also carry a lot of sarcasm because I know that he wont get that its sarcasm. I'll point out where the sarcasm is. I also was trying to be sensitive about the fact his mom is sick its probably hard on him and even though I think he is a prick I am human and so I tried to approach it as respectable as i could so here it is...

comments: Hi Tommy,
Thanks for taking the time to read my email. I am an avid fan ((I dont even listen cause I dont even live in San Diego, just to point out) of the show and was disappointed by the latest Tommy Tube episode with momma Rosa. I found it really disturbing that you would put your mom on camera in her frail condition. Its sweet that you go to her house almost everyday (Assuming he does go there everyday it would be sweet) but I found it overwhelming that you would put her on camera. I know a lot of the times you say she is doing great but she doesn't seem to look well from the video. Its heartbreaking and rather you realize it or not it is hitting people emotionally and I'm not sure that its in a good way either.My friends and I watched the latest episode (you guys being my friends who also watched it) and were very shocked that a son who cares about his mother would bring a camera crew to her house. Its very disappointing. She looks to be very sick. Perhaps you should focus on spending quality time with her without the camera's there. I'm not trying to be rude because I know this is probably a sensitive subject for you, I just feel its inappropriate. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.
I just hope you would not use your mom's illness for ratings or sympathy from listeners. I do feel bad for the situation your in and I do hope for the best for your mom but I think you made a poor decision by putting her on the internet and exposing her. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind it when it comes down to it.
Anyways thank you again for your time and good luck with the 3 day run.(assuming he can finish he will need the luck) I heard your mom has cancer is this true? Is she the inspiration for you in deciding to be involved in the three day?
Also, I read in your blog that your I think step-daughter was married over the weekend. Are you planning to post pictures of the wedding?(just to point out im not engaged to be married I just needed a reason to bring this up without seeming too nosy) I am getting married myself and was just trying to get ideas for the wedding and I figured since you have a good taste*thats sarcasm* in style so your step-daughter must have had a beautiful wedding dress.
Have a wonderful Tuesday Tommy and good luck again with your mom and the three day. Its really nice to see you trying to use your name and face to help out in great causes...its a shame not more people are like you. Society is really suffering. *that whole last paragraph would also be sarcasm*
Thanks,
Julie. *my name isn't even julie I just didn't want to be harassed over the phone haha

His response to me:

My mom is in good spirits and I see nothing but beauty.
I am so sorry for you that that is all you see in this. I see love.

Her doctor says she needed this. I'm taking my mom on a cruise in January. I'm taking her to places she wants to.

She was so happy to watch it on the website. We are watching it again right now together and she is smiling.

Sometimes, Julie you need to maybe trust that I have taken care of things for my mom since I was 10 and I would never put her in a situation that hurts her. This helped her and she is happy and although you may look at her in a frail state, I look at my mom in a happy and proud state of mind.

My mom took me to my first radio job and she listens to me everyday. I am proud of my mom and my mom is as strong and most likely stronger than most in her life. Perhaps, stronger than you in mind soul and character.

There is nothing wrong other than old age with my mother. If you think I should hide that, then you need to learn about life.

I love my mom more than anything and I am happy and proud of her.

On behalf of my family, God bless you and know that my mom is happy and I am proud of her.

Take care,
Tommy Sablan

I like that he ignored my question about his mom having cancer and the pictures of amanda's wedding...I figured if I was nice about it then he would answer my questions but I guess he is too deep into his web of lies he cant keep up with anything anymore.. I responded back to him but i havent heard back. I was even nicer also time...asking if he planned to take the kids with him to this cruise...I even suggested that'd be a perfect wedding location for him and mooch's wedding...so if it ever does come up on the show....he got the idea from me....

SDchick
10-17-2007, 11:22 AM
I think LBM is talking about her dead father when she says they scared Grandpa.
Okay, if that's true, then that is truly disturbing. First, she's watching Body Snatchers with a 3 year old. I don't care how old that movie is, no 3 year old should be watching anything with scary lighting and music like that. Second, we all know how much she believes in her orbs and her deceased dad being around all the time. CREEEEPY!!!!

BecInCA
10-17-2007, 11:27 AM
:nono: "Oh what wicked webs we weave when first we practice to deceive."

Newer Reader
10-17-2007, 11:29 AM
Hi everyone,

I'll come out of lurk mode to be counted. I've only posted once before. But, that time I didn't tell my story. I'm coming clean.

For the past 5 years I thought that maybe I was one of a few in town who had an inkling about FH's character. About 5 years ago (Amused can correct if timeframe is wrong) I arrived to volunteer in my kiddo's 1st grade classroom (it was a K/1 combo, and Eddie was a kindergartner in the class) and found the door locked with teacher and class inside. Reason? Apparently Amused and FH were having problems, Amused and the teacher were friends, Amused had either moved out or left and FH was so obsessed with finding out Amused's whereabouts that he was calling and harassing the teacher--my child's teacher--to the point that she felt she might be in danger.

Door was locked. To my child's classroom. With my child in it. Because of FH.

I said "I don't like this, I think I want to take my child home" and teacher understood and said it was up to me. I decided that I didn't want to alarm kiddo or classmates but I wasn't about to leave, so I stayed; instead of volunteering my scheduled one hour, I stayed the rest of the morning and took my kiddo home at lunch time.

To recap: One day, I had to take an entire day off of work to stay with my child at school and then take child home early because I feared for child's safety. Because of FH.

I believe action was taken; don't know the details, didn't ask, but you better believe I quietly but clearly let the administration know what I thought about having my child in a classroom where the teacher felt she needed to lock the door because of a parent.

We have lots of friends who have gone through divorces and other big problems but, gosh, guess how many other times someone else's personal problems have jeopardized the safety of my kiddos in school? Never. You? Only once have any of my children been in a situation where they had to be "locked in" for safety. Only once. And now you know why.

Just in case anyone was thinking that maybe we're too hard on the guy...:thumbdown

Y'all rock,

Newer Reader (not to be confused with the New Reader of old)

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 11:30 AM
I like that he ignored my question about his mom having cancer and the pictures of amanda's wedding...I figured if I was nice about it then he would answer my questions but I guess he is too deep into his web of lies he cant keep up with anything anymore.. I responded back to him but i havent heard back. I was even nicer also time...asking if he planned to take the kids with him to this cruise...I even suggested that'd be a perfect wedding location for him and mooch's wedding...so if it ever does come up on the show....he got the idea from me....
This made me think...if his family loves the mooch so much, and she really is his soul mate (gag), why wouldn't he want his mother to see him get married before she passes?

boris85
10-17-2007, 11:33 AM
I think LBM is talking about her dead father when she says they scared Grandpa.

She found an old penny on the ground and was sure it was a sign from her dead father...

SDchick
10-17-2007, 11:34 AM
She found an old penny on the ground and was sure it was a sign from her dead father...
Wait, is that from a movie? Sounds very familiar.

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 11:35 AM
I personally feel that, if you do a good deed, but have to advertise that you've done it...it sort of makes it less genuine. Joan Kroc donated absurd amounts of money, and helped many people. She never said a word about it, and always asked that the organizations she gave to keep quiet as well. She is somebody I truly respect.

If Tommy wants to teach his kids how to be charitable and help others that are less fortunate, they could volunteer to feed the homeless. They could volunteer to play with the kids at Children's Hospital, visit a nursing home. The possibilities are endless, but they will never happen because FH wouldn't get the recognition he wants.

boris85
10-17-2007, 11:36 AM
Okay, if that's true, then that is truly disturbing. First, she's watching Body Snatchers with a 3 year old. I don't care how old that movie is, no 3 year old should be watching anything with scary lighting and music like that. Second, we all know how much she believes in her orbs and her deceased dad being around all the time. CREEEEPY!!!!

She reads this blog. The last time she watched a scary movie with Chimp Charlie - it was rated-R, and I ripped her a new one. She goes out of her way to point out that this one was PG (still not appropriate). I love how she mentions has sweet and kind he is, and then describes how he threw his sister's dolls over the fence. Denial.

loriraesd
10-17-2007, 11:38 AM
My mom took me to my first radio job and she listens to me everyday. I am proud of my mom and my mom is as strong and most likely stronger than most in her life. Perhaps, stronger than you in mind soul and character.


Iamsheens.... did you pick up on this MAJOR dig? What a pompous ***ss!

boris85
10-17-2007, 11:40 AM
Wait, is that from a movie? Sounds very familiar.
No, Laura actually has said this before...and believes it.

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 11:43 AM
Laura's Diary, October 17th, 2007
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 12:30pm

Dear Diary,

Precious moment from last night:

Charlie, Ev and I were doing super-happy-criss-cross (that's where we snuggle up on the L-shaped couch and watch TV). Char wanted to watch a "scary" movie, so we found a really old version of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Probably one of the last PG rated scary flicks. That's not the precious part. I was laying there between Char and Ev, all was quiet, when all of a sudden Charlie leans over me and says to Evan "You know who I love? I love my little sister. I love you, Evan."

Super happy criss cross? What the hell is that? Maybe it's just me...but i think it is very strange the way she gives everything with the kids some kind of retarded name. (Super happy whatever the hell it is, naked fairy dancing in the forest, smell my own toot sniffer)

If i want to watch a movie on the couch with my kids (you know...something age appropriate, like veggie tales, or disey sing along), I say to them "let's cuddle on the couch and watch a movie". There is some weird stuff that goes on with her and those kids...beyond the obvious things. I wouldn't let that woman near my kids for anything.

boris85
10-17-2007, 11:44 AM
I personally feel that, if you do a good deed, but have to advertise that you've done it...it sort of makes it less genuine. Joan Kroc donated absurd amounts of money, and helped many people. She never said a word about it, and always asked that the organizations she gave to keep quiet as well. She is somebody I truly respect.

If Tommy wants to teach his kids how to be charitable and help others that are less fortunate, they could volunteer to feed the homeless. They could volunteer to play with the kids at Children's Hospital, visit a nursing home. The possibilities are endless, but they will never happen because FH wouldn't get the recognition he wants.

What no one realizes is that they are actually breaking into an apartment that Tummy rents and cons people into giving him free stuff. That way, he does not have to shop for his own kids.

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 11:44 AM
My mom took me to my first radio job and she listens to me everyday. I am proud of my mom and my mom is as strong and most likely stronger than most in her life. Perhaps, stronger than you in mind soul and character.


Iamsheens.... did you pick up on this MAJOR dig? What a pompous ***ss!


Character?? The woman raised a patological liar/abuser, and 2 drug addicts

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 11:45 AM
What no one realizes is that they are actually breaking into an apartment that Tummy rents and cons people into giving him free stuff. That way, he does not have to shop for his own kids.


you figured it out Boris...how could i have not seen it?

boris85
10-17-2007, 11:45 AM
Super happy criss cross? What the hell is that? Maybe it's just me...but i think it is very strange the way she gives everything with the kids some kind of retarded name. (Super happy whatever the hell it is, naked fairy dancing in the forest, smell my own toot sniffer)

If i want to watch a movie on the couch with my kids (you know...something age appropriate, like veggie tales, or disey sing along), I say to them "let's cuddle on the couch and watch a movie". There is some weird stuff that goes on with her and those kids...beyond the obvious things. I wouldn't let that woman near my kids for anything.

Hey kids - let's play the super loopy line game. Let's pretend we're lines of cocaine on the L-shaped couch. Groovy

Transplant
10-17-2007, 11:47 AM
Hey Everyone!
Haven't posted for a while. Been busy! Though lurking ocassionally to check in on all this board's lovable madness, I haven't felt inspired to post again until today...
So who else caught the "Smell" segment on this morning's "Spewgram???" When they were all chatting about how certain places have certain identifiable smells...? Such as people's homes, stores, and other places? I couldn't agree more, guys! I'm sure that anyone who walked into the Star 94.1 studios during the weekday a.m daypart hours would smell the unmistakable scent of B.S.!!!! And FH's stinky cloud of smug delusion would surely add a sizeable measure of putrid pollution of its own. [if there was an available icon of a smiley holding his nose, I would be inserting it here] That guy soooooo needs to get OVER himself already!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's so gross.

I did what one of the other posters (sorry I forgot who) mentioned the other day during this SMELL segment (actually wanted to call it a smegment)

I was stuck in traffic for 90 minutes to go 12 miles from my house and flipped back and forth from DCS to J&J and DCS covered about 18 topics in the time and unending commercial breaks just to do their one smell bit. Way overboard...move on people...this was a rerun anyway. Been there, heard that.

newgal
10-17-2007, 11:58 AM
I think LBM is talking about her dead father when she says they scared Grandpa.

It's been a while but remember when Dave's dad moved in with them? I am sure it was either earlier this year or late last year that he moved in. Probably to help keep an eye on the kids since Laura isn't dependable!

SDchick
10-17-2007, 12:00 PM
I did what one of the other posters (sorry I forgot who) mentioned the other day during this SMELL segment (actually wanted to call it a smegment)

I was stuck in traffic for 90 minutes to go 12 miles from my house and flipped back and forth from DCS to J&J and DCS covered about 18 topics in the time and unending commercial breaks just to do their one smell bit. Way overboard...move on people...this was a rerun anyway. Been there, heard that.
That was me! me me me!!! Uh oh! Tubby's rubbing off on me, I want credit! Forgive me everyone!!! ;-)

Mom2ThreeBoys
10-17-2007, 12:02 PM
Watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers is totally inappropriate for a 3-year-old and a 7-year-old, as is sleeping on the couch on a school night. I'm sure Charlie's teacher really appreciates the fact that he's sleep-deprived today.

FH has no business putting Rosa on Tummytube. Like another poster, I also remember her entertaining call ins to the show years ago and it's horrifying to have her paraded on their website in her current condition. I saw how dimentia affected my grandparents, and I think it may be a factor here too.

Newer Reader, I'm sorry you had that experience with your child because of FH's out of control behavior. As a mom, I can totally understand your concern for your child and your reaction to someone else compromising their safety.

Amused, as always I'm sorry for everything you've gone through with him. Your kids are very fortunate to have you looking out for their best interests.

loriraesd
10-17-2007, 12:08 PM
I do believe that FH's pretend world is starting to unravel from an onslaught of negative emails - all thanks to those of you with the courage to call him out on his lies...

Amused, let not your heart be troubled - justice is sweeeeeeeet!

Transplant
10-17-2007, 12:13 PM
That was me! me me me!!! Uh oh! Tubby's rubbing off on me, I want credit! Forgive me everyone!!! ;-)

sorry SDC. . . here's your credit and Kudo's (Hey did you notice you have the same initials, only mixed up, as Dave, Chainsaw & Shelly????)

:wavey2: :bow: :woohoo: :wavey: :king: :thumbup: :shakehand :winkie:

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 12:15 PM
Wonkatania : Thanks for my first Laugh Out Loud moment of the day!

iamsheens : I ditto the thanks from SDchick for sharing this. It helped a lot with regard to my own two little ones who have to experience what you went through. It's encouraging to know that you've turned out ok in spite of your dad. If I can balance things as well as your mom did, and as Amused does, I'll be happy.

DreamerGal : Thanks for sharing also. It's nice to know that some people are capable of positive change like your Ex. I've given up hope on mine however.

Ritchie : I don't think we set out to deliberately marry idiots. It's not always easy to know what you're getting.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 12:16 PM
Watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers is totally inappropriate for a 3-year-old and a 7-year-old, as is sleeping on the couch on a school night. I'm sure Charlie's teacher really appreciates the fact that he's sleep-deprived today.

FH has no business putting Rosa on Tummytube. Like another poster, I also remember her entertaining call ins to the show years ago and it's horrifying to have her paraded on their website in her current condition. I saw how dimentia affected my grandparents, and I think it may be a factor here too.

Newer Reader, I'm sorry you had that experience with your child because of FH's out of control behavior. As a mom, I can totally understand your concern for your child and your reaction to someone else compromising their safety.

Amused, as always I'm sorry for everything you've gone through with him. Your kids are very fortunate to have you looking out for their best interests.

Thats why I emailed him about tommy tube...i wanted to just flat out tell him that his mom doesn't have that much longer to live because she looks exactly how my grandma did before she died. I figured it'd be heartless but he lives in denial. I don't think any Dr. told Tommy that putting her in front of a camera would make her happy. I'm sure if she actually did watch that episode I dont think it would make her happy. I think she would realize she looks frail and sick. I feel bad that she is sick. I would never wish an illness on someone or wish someone to have to deal with death in the family either.
I just found it amusing he had to add in my email response to me that they were watching the episode that she is in....how bout spending quality time with your mom and not emailing people....I still think he put her on tommy tube for sympathy....

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 12:25 PM
My mom took me to my first radio job and she listens to me everyday. I am proud of my mom and my mom is as strong and most likely stronger than most in her life. Perhaps, stronger than you in mind soul and character.


Iamsheens.... did you pick up on this MAJOR dig? What a pompous ***ss!


I just responded back with well I hope she would be stronger than me in mind, soul, and character because I am still young....although I would say Im strong than him with mind, soul, and character and Tommy is probably double my age.

I mean I don't blame his mom completely for the way her kids turned out. Maybe she raised an arrogant son and a few other kids with problems...sometimes the best parents in the world can't stop their kids from doing drugs, especially once they are adults. My mom was an outstanding mom she raised my brother and I as a single parent and she was strict on us and knew what we were doing and where we were at, at all times and yet my brother still managed to do drugs without either her or I knowing when he was in high school. My mom just recently found out about my brother's behavior (my bro is 21 now) of drinking and drugs and she was devestated. I don't think that makes my mom a bad parent. She did everything within her means to keep close tabs on us its just unfortuante the places she allowed my brother to go to she trusted those people and parents...I mean its kind of a catch 22, its easy to want to blame the parents for children's behaviors and granted a lot of the time it is the parents to blame but we dont really know how Rosa's parenting skills were....who knows tho maybe Im just rambling and making absolutely no sense....

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 12:28 PM
I went through some of the boxes in the garage yesterday. I found my boots! It's kind of cool having to go through boxes of clothes. I haven't seen them in so long, it's kind of like I have a whole new wardrobe! I left all the clothes there though, because I just cannot stuff another thing into the closet I'm currently using…Tommy's.

How much stuff can she possibly have?! The closet at Tommy's is already stuffed to capacity, and she still has boxes and boxes of stuff at Dave's?...and she still complains about having nothing to wear?...ayayay

DreamerGal
10-17-2007, 12:29 PM
It's amazing to me that, as much effort as Iamsheens put into making sure she wasn't challenging or caustic in her e-mail, Tommy had to be so pompous in his reply. He apparently needs to feel superior to everybody who has an opinion that differs from his own.

I agree that he does nothing without expectation of applause in one form or another.

I have noticed that his blog (not just his private e-mail replies to troublesome "listeners" who disagree with him) has gotten a bit more caustic and childish in his reaction to those who disagree with him, as well.

This is extreme entertainment ... watching someone unravel like that. Sort of like a train wreck in slow motion, huh?

Ritchie
10-17-2007, 12:33 PM
Ritchie : I don't think we set out to deliberately marry idiots. It's not always easy to know what you're getting.

It's always been my impression that women know what they are getting, they just think that they can change the men into what they want.

That never works.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 12:37 PM
It's amazing to me that, as much effort as Iamsheens put into making sure she wasn't challenging or caustic in her e-mail, Tommy had to be so pompous in his reply. He apparently needs to feel superior to everybody who has an opinion that differs from his own.

I agree that he does nothing without expectation of applause in one form or another.

I have noticed that his blog (not just his private e-mail replies to troublesome "listeners" who disagree with him) has gotten a bit more caustic and childish in his reaction to those who disagree with him, as well.

This is extreme entertainment ... watching someone unravel like that. Sort of like a train wreck in slow motion, huh?

Exactly...I tried so hard to not sound rude. I wanted him to think I was a fan in fact. I thought I'd at least get a nice response if I made it clear I listened to the show and my whole last paragraph of B.S. so he wouldn't jump the gun and think Im out to get him or something....I mean say I did listen to the show and I truly was a fan of the show then I would have been so pissed at his response and thought what a jerk...Luckily for me I already knew he was a jerk.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 12:42 PM
If I had the balls to do it I'd email Tommy and tell him he should start going to confession now because he's been sinning left and right and it might take him till Sunday to get everything out...but luckily the Chargers have a bye week so it wouldn't interfere with the game. I guess he just assumes that if you pray for others that makes everything he does wrong acceptable.

I bet he says he is going to church since no football is in the way...or does he even mention church anymore?

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 12:47 PM
It's always been my impression that women know what they are getting, they just think that they can change the men into what they want.

That never works.

You're right Ritchie...it never works to think you can change someone into what you want. However, when you are dealing with someone who lies and has perfected the art of deception and manipulation over a long period of time, it's not so simplistic.

Newer Reader
10-17-2007, 12:48 PM
Yes Ritchie, and I resembled that remark. Thankfully, it was a LONG time ago and I learned my lesson early. NR

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 12:49 PM
I have yet to speak with Mr. Steele. It seems we're playing phone tag. If he thinks I'm going to go away, he needs to think again. I have contacted the police department about FH's emails and the phone calls, and have legal grounds to press charges. So for any of you who have gotten rude or threatening emails, or had negative experiences with him in person (especially at station related events like me) I would urge you to contact clear channel and ask to file a complaint with Mr. Jimmy Steele, Director of Programming. Tommy is obviously not a stable person and some of the legal issues (stalking/harassing) he has had were with women he met while working, or by using work connections.

One of the first reasons I stopped listening to their morning show was because of how Tommy treated my husband and I at a station related event. Currently, I don't listen to the show (and if I'm a passenger in a car that is tuned in I will often request a station change), I do not support station related events, and I refuse to use the services of any company they advertise for (and will even contact the company and let them know they've lost customers and why).

I'm not alone in being beyond fed up with their lies, and totally inappropriate behavior. Neither is AlpineMaps, or Boris, or Jake, or OneKidOneDogMom, or GirlfromOR, or Sad cubed. There are many of us on here that are sickened by them, and I'm pretty sure if Mr. Steele started to hear from all of us, he might finally pay attention.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Amused
10-17-2007, 12:53 PM
Hi everyone,

I'll come out of lurk mode to be counted. I've only posted once before. But, that time I didn't tell my story. I'm coming clean.

For the past 5 years I thought that maybe I was one of a few in town who had an inkling about FH's character. About 5 years ago (Amused can correct if timeframe is wrong) I arrived to volunteer in my kiddo's 1st grade classroom (it was a K/1 combo, and Eddie was a kindergartner in the class) and found the door locked with teacher and class inside. Reason? Apparently Amused and FH were having problems, Amused and the teacher were friends, Amused had either moved out or left and FH was so obsessed with finding out Amused's whereabouts that he was calling and harassing the teacher--my child's teacher--to the point that she felt she might be in danger.

Door was locked. To my child's classroom. With my child in it. Because of FH.



It is true. It was during the divorce. I felt so bad for my Friend. You can now understand why I had to move from San Diego County. FH thinks that because he is "A Big Deal" that rules don't apply to him. He wasn't even allowed on campus. It was quite embarrassing. Sad that my children and I have to be attached to that memory.

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 12:54 PM
Being on bed rest has given me some (a lot) of extra time, and if i have to hear Rachel Ray say "E-V-O-O" 1 more time, i might loose it. So i've been trying to figure out just how many drama club babies are due between Dec-Mar...8 is it? (thats counting the twins)

loriraesd
10-17-2007, 12:54 PM
It's always been my impression that women know what they are getting, they just think that they can change the men into what they want.

That never works.

Case in point to the contrary, Ritchie.... not to get too specific, however, I married a Christian man who taught Bible Study.... I found out that he had been deceiving me for the last two years of our marriage, in deep with a serious gambling addiction..... he lost everything we had, except my dignity.... won't give that up for anybody....

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 12:56 PM
I have yet to speak with Mr. Steele. It seems we're playing phone tag. If he thinks I'm going to go away, he needs to think again. I have contacted the police department about FH's emails and the phone calls, and have legal grounds to press charges. So for any of you who have gotten rude or threatening emails, or had negative experiences with him in person (especially at station related events like me) I would urge you to contact clear channel and ask to file a complaint with Mr. Jimmy Steele, Director of Programming. Tommy is obviously not a stable person and some of the legal issues (stalking/harassing) he has had were with women he met while working, or by using work connections.

One of the first reasons I stopped listening to their morning show was because of how Tommy treated my husband and I at a station related event. Currently, I don't listen to the show (and if I'm a passenger in a car that is tuned in I will often request a station change), I do not support station related events, and I refuse to use the services of any company they advertise for (and will even contact the company and let them know they've lost customers and why).

I'm not alone in being beyond fed up with their lies, and totally inappropriate behavior. Neither is AlpineMaps, or Boris, or Jake, or OneKidOneDogMom, or GirlfromOR, or Sad cubed. There are many of us on here that are sickened by them, and I'm pretty sure if Mr. Steele started to hear from all of us, he might finally pay attention.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

So does this mean you pressed charges against Tommy? And if so do you both go to court or what would happen exactly? Im fed up with Tommy's lies too...hopefully something happens to put an end to all of this...he is getting out of hand...he doesnt realize what kind of damage this type of stuff can do to his kids.

Note to Tommy: Get out of fantasy land, truth is....on the path your going your going to loose any respect your kids still have for you...and if the harassing continues find yourself out of a job potentially...act your age, and grow up to be a normal adult like the rest of us.

Amused
10-17-2007, 12:57 PM
Character?? The woman raised a patological liar/abuser, and 2 drug addicts

You've got that nailed Tex! That woman is no Saint. Btw, his Aunt Ding drove him, Rosa never drove she didn't even have a license. The daughter's are no better. That is one scandalous family.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 01:04 PM
You've got that nailed Tex! That woman is no Saint. Btw, his Aunt Ding drove him, Rosa never drove she didn't even have a license. The daughter's are no better. That is one scandalous family.

SO then Rosa is to blame for the way her children turned out? I mean I try not to be totally judmental till I know the facts of a situation...I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt....is it possible she used the drugs with her kids? Where was TOmmy's dad growing up?

its sad that the whole family is screwed up....I dont blame you amused for not wanting your kids to be in that environment...

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 01:05 PM
So does this mean you pressed charges against Tommy? And if so do you both go to court or what would happen exactly? Im fed up with Tommy's lies too...hopefully something happens to put an end to all of this...he is getting out of hand...he doesnt realize what kind of damage this type of stuff can do to his kids.

Note to Tommy: Get out of fantasy land, truth is....on the path your going your going to loose any respect your kids still have for you...and if the harassing continues find yourself out of a job potentially...act your age, and grow up to be a normal adult like the rest of us.

No it doesn't mean I pressed charges. It means I can if I want to and I have the legal legs to stand on. I think what Mr. Steele needs to realize is...Tommy has threatened other posters here "I have your IP address, I can find out where you live". Let's say he really did. We know he has anger issues. So he goes to this person's house, and badgers her..she says or does something that angers him even more...what if he reacts to her physically?

What if he was so irritated by my emails with him, that he decides to google my first and last name, and he finds that I belong to the Orchid Growers Club (i don't and don't even know if that exists), and i'm going to be at an event next Saturday. He shows up and lurks around until he finds out who i am, and approaches me...and it goes downhill from there.

Maybe it seems far-fetched, but he has behaved that way before.

SDchick
10-17-2007, 01:05 PM
Being on bed rest has given me some (a lot) of extra time, and if i have to hear Rachel Ray say "E-V-O-O" 1 more time, i might loose it. So i've been trying to figure out just how many drama club babies are due between Dec-Mar...8 is it? (thats counting the twins)
Doesn't Rachel's sister bug a little too? She's very pretty, but the smile is way overdone for me. I think she looks like a cross between Fran Drescher and Vanessa Marcil.

I'll try to tally the preggy's on here also!

Amused
10-17-2007, 01:08 PM
SO then Rosa is to blame for the way her children turned out? I mean I try not to be totally judmental till I know the facts of a situation...I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt....is it possible she used the drugs with her kids? Where was TOmmy's dad growing up?

its sad that the whole family is screwed up....I dont blame you amused for not wanting your kids to be in that environment...

No, she wasn't a drug abuser. Just your typical enabler. Raising drug addicts, embezzlers and pathological liars. She always covered for them... with LIES. The fruit didn't fall far from the rotting tree! His Dad died of cancer when he was 5. He was raised by the pack of wolves he calls a family.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 01:12 PM
No, she wasn't a drug abuser. Just your typical enabler. Raising drug addicts, embezzlers and pathological liars. She always covered for them... with LIES. The fruit didn't fall far from the rotting tree! His Dad died of cancer when he was 5. He was raised by the pack of wolves he calls a family.

As unfortunate his family situation is... when you describe it as a pack of wolves he calls a family it made me LOL.

Thanks for the info. =)

snoopiebug
10-17-2007, 01:13 PM
It's always been my impression that women know what they are getting, they just think that they can change the men into what they want.

That never works.

Normally would completely agree with that but with my ex we lived together for over a year and was literaly the perfect boyfriend.... 2 weeks into the marriage he tried to break my arm....I was very young and stupid

MissThany
10-17-2007, 01:22 PM
Amused: I wonder-if it wouldn't be out of line-if you could shed light on the Breaking and Entering Christmas...is it a genuine positive thing Tummy is doing to help a needy family? Or is this what he uses to make up for all the bad things he does the rest of the year?

Ritchie
10-17-2007, 01:30 PM
You're right Ritchie...it never works to think you can change someone into what you want. However, when you are dealing with someone who lies and has perfected the art of deception and manipulation over a long period of time, it's not so simplistic.

I'll give you that one. Sometimes they hide who they really are and you never see it coming.

YoungAmerican
10-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Amused, it is truly amazing that you are still sane after having to deal with someone as sick as FH all these years. You are setting a great example for your children by handling things the way you are but don't you just sometimes wish you could hall off and wack his bloated a$$ like the overstuffed pinata that he is? :bonk:

Ritchie
10-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Normally would completely agree with that but with my ex we lived together for over a year and was literaly the perfect boyfriend.... 2 weeks into the marriage he tried to break my arm....I was very young and stupid

I guess I should elaborate. Most of the time women go for the jerks for several reasons, one of which is to try to change them.

There are instances where men (and women) hide who they are and the other person finds out much later.

Makes me wonder if Dave knew what he was getting into. I sure hope he goes for spousal support. Garnished wages would ensure it doesn't go to lotto scratchers.

OneKidOneDogMom
10-17-2007, 01:45 PM
,,,but don't you just sometimes wish you could hall off and wack his bloated a$$ like the overstuffed pinata that he is? :bonk:


I nominate this for Quote of the Day! Priceless!!

And I just have to say this - I got up this morning and caught up with the overnight comments (through 7 a.m.). Then I went and volunteered at my son's school (4th Grade - yikes!!!) for 4 hours. I get back to work at 1 p.m. and have to wade through TWO AND A HALF PAGES of comments to get caught back up.

Wow! We have really picked up the pace on this board. It's almost become a full-time hobby to just read all the new comments and observations.

I love it! :cheers:

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 01:48 PM
His response to me:

My mom is in good spirits and I see nothing but beauty.
I am so sorry for you that that is all you see in this. I see love.

Her doctor says she needed this. I'm taking my mom on a cruise in January. I'm taking her to places she wants to.

She was so happy to watch it on the website. We are watching it again right now together and she is smiling.

Sometimes, Julie you need to maybe trust that I have taken care of things for my mom since I was 10 and I would never put her in a situation that hurts her. This helped her and she is happy and although you may look at her in a frail state, I look at my mom in a happy and proud state of mind.

My mom took me to my first radio job and she listens to me everyday. I am proud of my mom and my mom is as strong and most likely stronger than most in her life. Perhaps, stronger than you in mind soul and character.

There is nothing wrong other than old age with my mother. If you think I should hide that, then you need to learn about life.

I love my mom more than anything and I am happy and proud of her.

On behalf of my family, God bless you and know that my mom is happy and I am proud of her.

Take care,
Tommy Sablan


How many times can we say "happy and proud"?...If his mom is such the strong person, then why was it left to him, the youngest member of the family, to take care of everything? Seemingly, Tommy, the hero, raised and took care of, his entire family, single-handedly. Did all his older siblings, and his mother, just sit around doing nothing while Tommy cooked and cleaned and supported them all and went to school. He's beginning to sound like Cinderella. Poor Cinders...you SHALL go to the Holy Ball!

Can't wait to hear all the about the cruise in January.

OneKidOneDogMom
10-17-2007, 01:55 PM
Poor Cinders...you SHALL go to the Holy Ball!


Holy Balls! Are you making fun of XXXL? Love it!

Daisy CA
10-17-2007, 01:55 PM
Being on bed rest has given me some (a lot) of extra time, and if i have to hear Rachel Ray say "E-V-O-O" 1 more time, i might loose it. So i've been trying to figure out just how many drama club babies are due between Dec-Mar...8 is it? (thats counting the twins)

Thanks for your post! I almost forgot to take my pill today! Appreciate the reminder... Two kidlets are enough for me!:cool:

snoopiebug
10-17-2007, 01:57 PM
Ritchie you are completely right ... I stayed for a long time for that same reason I thought I could "fix" him

I like to think Dave had no clue what he was getting into but sure knew how to make it stop... I hope he does go for spousal and child support......he deserves it

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 01:57 PM
How many times can we say "happy and proud"?...If his mom is such the strong person, then why was it left to him, the youngest member of the family, to take care of everything? Seemingly, Tommy, the hero, raised and took care of, his entire family, single-handedly. Did all his older siblings, and his mother, just sit around doing nothing while Tommy cooked and cleaned and supported them all and went to school. He's beginning to sound like Cinderella. Poor Cinders...you SHALL go to the Holy Ball!

Can't wait to hear all the about the cruise in January.


I doubt he is actually going on a cruise...its just another way for him to prove he is a good son...althought I guess since he lives in a dream world...if he tells himself they went on a cruise, does that make it true?

YoungAmerican
10-17-2007, 02:02 PM
It's almost become a full-time hobby to just read all the new comments and observations.

I love it! :cheers:

So true, I've totally given up doing all the point programs because I just don't have time to do both and reading the "drama" thread is soooooo much more rewarding!

Amused
10-17-2007, 02:11 PM
Amused: I wonder-if it wouldn't be out of line-if you could shed light on the Breaking and Entering Christmas...is it a genuine positive thing Tummy is doing to help a needy family? Or is this what he uses to make up for all the bad things he does the rest of the year?

As far as I know it's real. The heartbreaker is this: FH chooses which family is needy. He used to pick the stereotype "Sablanish" 1970's kickback family to receive the goods.

I haven't listened since the divorce so I have no idea about what he does anymore.

The little peeps do know what charity is and because we travel they have seen poverty and they do give from their hearts. They aren't a commercial mess that their Dad hopes they grow to be.

Amused
10-17-2007, 02:13 PM
Amused, it is truly amazing that you are still sane after having to deal with someone as sick as FH all these years. You are setting a great example for your children by handling things the way you are but don't you just sometimes wish you could hall off and wack his bloated a$$ like the overstuffed pinata that he is? :bonk:

Suddenly I have the urge to hold a baseball bat! LOL

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 02:13 PM
I doubt he is actually going on a cruise...its just another way for him to prove he is a good son...althought I guess since he lives in a dream world...if he tells himself they went on a cruise, does that make it true?


Of course! He knows how to project his SECRET thoughts out into the universe and make it so...I can see his vision now....that beautiful imaginary cruise ship, sailing on that sparkling, clear blue, non-existent ocean. The invisible figures of Tommy and Rosa on deck. Tommy is so happy and proud...he weighs 150lbs. The entire passenger list is made up of mythical adoring family and listeners. Numerous fantasy women are throwing themselves at Tommy's feet but Michelle and Laura don't mind at all...they are happy to share him.

Concentrate hard now everyone...can you see it too?

DreamerGal
10-17-2007, 02:17 PM
Of course! He knows how to project his SECRET thoughts out into the universe and make it so...I can see his vision now....that beautiful imaginary cruise ship, sailing on that sparkling, clear blue, non-existent ocean. The invisible figures of Tommy and Rosa on deck. Tommy is so happy and proud...he weighs 150lbs. The entire passenger list is made up of mythical adoring family and listeners. Numerous fantasy women are throwing themselves at Tommy's feet but Michelle and Laura don't mind at all...they are happy to share him.

Concentrate hard now everyone...can you see it too?

Sapphie ... HYSterical!!!!! :lmfao:

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 02:19 PM
Suddenly I have the urge to hold a baseball bat! LOL

<~~~standing in line after Amused...though I'm somewhat nervous about what's going to fall out of THAT pinata....

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 02:19 PM
I'll chime in my two cents worth, Ritchie, on the "Why." I can only give my point of view, of course, and I don't think I have ever tried to change anyone. Far from it. I can only say we learn so much from personal experience and listening. My ex can be a wonderful person. If you really needed anything, and desperately, he would be right there, and you would melt away because he seems so thoughtful. And he is, he really can be.

And yes, I have tilted at windmills in my life in other ways as well.

When it's just you two, it's pretty easy to work with a person like that. When you start pressing RESPONSIBILITY, some people change. Some men and women sorta settle into the harness and pull. Others bolt. I happen to be able to carry a lot of responsibility, ex can't handle it at all.

It's my observation that many guys never mature past about 14 years of age. Probably true for women, too, but they aren't my thing. When you are single, and it's just the two of you, that can be a blast. Ex's parents divorced when he was about 14--he's never gotten over it. He held grudges against both his parents for different things, and didn't talk at all to his father until our daughter was about 2 years old.

I received an invitation to his grandparent's 50th wedding anniversary, and I told him he could come or not come with me and my daughter, but she deserved to meet her family. I'm so glad I did. They are all wonderful people, who have been wonderful to my daughter. Her grandpa (his father) was so emotional to see us all come (yes, the ex did come to the party, too, and started up a relationship with his dad), he has made a point of spoiling the heckola out of my daughter ever since.

He had all these elaborate stories kinda based on truth about the wrongs his parents did him, but when you tracked down the stories with other family members, the truth was in there, but totally padded with the hurt only a 14 yr old kid can feel and cast in such a manner.

It's not always cut and dry...iamsheens, I am so sorry for the pain you have gone through, and I know the insight you have will be something that can help you be a better parent to your own children, or relate to any other children you meet.

And honestly, you have to wonder, sometimes, it's not something they consciously know they are doing. It's self-hatred, a feeling of worthlessness that is at the root of this kind of behavior.

Meanwhile, my ex lives in a house where the living room furniture is as follows: 3 wide screen TVs, three regular size tv's, and two reclining theater seats. with cupholders. TV is his life. He is fantasy sports king. He goes to Barona, Viejas and also down to TJ to place bets on just about everything.

and he just called me..."Can you pick her up from her practice? I'm going to the ribfest at Barona. They only do this once a year."
sigh.

PRINTER
10-17-2007, 02:20 PM
I, too, had an "in-person" experience with Tommy. It's a long story but he totally disrespected me, my husband and my daughter. It was WAY uncool! My husband decided right then and there that Tummy was a fake. I had been a fan for so long that I still listened...waiting for the shows like the old days... the days when Bess and Rick made the show ROCK! Never happened.
I love that this thread is here so that Tummy can be exposed for who and what he REALLY is.
I doubt that Laura reads these posts. When she got back from re-hab she was saying on the air that she'd been cautioned not to read or listen to anything negative that was said about her. Something about depression may cause a relapse. Honestly, if she read this she WOULD NOT appear on tummy-tube, knowing what people are saying about her uncomfortable appearances.
Thank you so much for posting Tommy's Blog and Laura's Diary. Now I don't go to the website at all. I hope others follow.

YoungAmerican
10-17-2007, 02:32 PM
Amused, is this FH's sister, Rose? http://www.4rsandiegorealestate.com/agent/view_image.php?image=http://www.realtydrive.com/photo/4rsandiegorealestate/Rose.jpg

Amused
10-17-2007, 02:34 PM
Amused, is this FH's sister, Rose? http://www.4rsandiegorealestate.com/agent/view_image.php?image=http://www.realtydrive.com/photo/4rsandiegorealestate/Rose.jpg
No, like FH she is much larger. LOL :spock:

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 02:35 PM
And honestly, you have to wonder, sometimes, it's not something they consciously know they are doing. It's self-hatred, a feeling of worthlessness that is at the root of this kind of behavior.




I totally agree....Bless you Wabbit for your compassion and ability to see past the more obvious negative traits that people display and illustrate so well that there's usually another side to the coin.

SadSadSad
10-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Of course! He knows how to project his SECRET thoughts out into the universe and make it so...I can see his vision now....that beautiful imaginary cruise ship, sailing on that sparkling, clear blue, non-existent ocean. The invisible figures of Tommy and Rosa on deck. Tommy is so happy and proud...he weighs 150lbs. The entire passenger list is made up of mythical adoring family and listeners. Numerous fantasy women are throwing themselves at Tommy's feet but Michelle and Laura don't mind at all...they are happy to share him.

Concentrate hard now everyone...can you see it too?

I can see it! Look, now Tommy is doing that King of The World thing like Leonardo Dicaprio did in Titanic. How funny and original! Just like the showgram. Uh, oh. Looks like Tommy is losing his balance. Oh no, there he goes over the side of the boat! "Don't worry," Laura and Michelle scream, "We'll save you, Tommy!" And there go Laura and Michelle over board. Oops, they really didn't think that through. So unlike them to leap before they think. They probably should have thrown him a life raft or something instead of going overboard. Okay, well, anyone else want to thrown them a life line? Anyone? Anyone? Well, someone should at least throw a Lifesaver candy in so we can say "We tried, but, alas their denseness took them to the bottom of the sea to swiflty for us to intervene."

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 02:41 PM
I'll chime in my two cents worth, Ritchie, on the "Why." I can only give my point of view, of course, and I don't think I have ever tried to change anyone. Far from it. I can only say we learn so much from personal experience and listening. My ex can be a wonderful person. If you really needed anything, and desperately, he would be right there, and you would melt away because he seems so thoughtful. And he is, he really can be.

And yes, I have tilted at windmills in my life in other ways as well.

When it's just you two, it's pretty easy to work with a person like that. When you start pressing RESPONSIBILITY, some people change. Some men and women sorta settle into the harness and pull. Others bolt. I happen to be able to carry a lot of responsibility, ex can't handle it at all.

It's my observation that many guys never mature past about 14 years of age. Probably true for women, too, but they aren't my thing. When you are single, and it's just the two of you, that can be a blast. Ex's parents divorced when he was about 14--he's never gotten over it. He held grudges against both his parents for different things, and didn't talk at all to his father until our daughter was about 2 years old.

I received an invitation to his grandparent's 50th wedding anniversary, and I told him he could come or not come with me and my daughter, but she deserved to meet her family. I'm so glad I did. They are all wonderful people, who have been wonderful to my daughter. Her grandpa (his father) was so emotional to see us all come (yes, the ex did come to the party, too, and started up a relationship with his dad), he has made a point of spoiling the heckola out of my daughter ever since.

He had all these elaborate stories kinda based on truth about the wrongs his parents did him, but when you tracked down the stories with other family members, the truth was in there, but totally padded with the hurt only a 14 yr old kid can feel and cast in such a manner.

It's not always cut and dry...iamsheens, I am so sorry for the pain you have gone through, and I know the insight you have will be something that can help you be a better parent to your own children, or relate to any other children you meet.

And honestly, you have to wonder, sometimes, it's not something they consciously know they are doing. It's self-hatred, a feeling of worthlessness that is at the root of this kind of behavior.

Meanwhile, my ex lives in a house where the living room furniture is as follows: 3 wide screen TVs, three regular size tv's, and two reclining theater seats. with cupholders. TV is his life. He is fantasy sports king. He goes to Barona, Viejas and also down to TJ to place bets on just about everything.

and he just called me..."Can you pick her up from her practice? I'm going to the ribfest at Barona. They only do this once a year."
sigh.


You know sometimes I did wish my dad were different and we'd have the relationship he has with my brother...but then again my brother allows for my dad to walk all over him, to make promises but never follow through and although sometimes it can really get to me I tell myself at the end of the day Im a stronger person for having to go through this expierence. My dad sounds a lot like you ex-husband. I used to go to my dad's house and he'd have the big screen tv, a nice house, the latest high tech computers and whatever high end product but then one semester of college I messed my student loan forms up and I couldn't get my loans. My mom had already helped me through college so much and she wasn't in a position to help me so I asked my dad and he said of course I'll help you...I felt relieved like "my dad actually came through" but needless to say I'm still waiting on that money and I didn't end up getting to go to school that semester. Maybe in the big scheme of things its not a big deal but it did push my graduation back to this December but it taught me a valuable lesson...I can't rely on my dad to help me even though he has the money and means to do so.

I know that whenever I do have kids I know what type of parent I want to be and not to be thanks to my dad and I think I'm a mature person because of his immaturity and lack of being around.

Anyways sorry if I keep going on the truth is that I don't think I've ever admitted some of that stuff to myself. I try not to think about it and just go about life with the motto that I'm lucky Im not screwed up and that I turned out better than most people....not to sound vein or anything. haha

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 02:42 PM
Sapphire, thanks for your nice words...as my favorite TV star (Monk) says, "it's a blessing and a curse...a curse and a blessing...a curse more than a blessing...but a blessing, no wait, more of a curse..." LOL!

I also figure he will end up living in a guest house behind my house when he is really old and not able to take care of himself. How odd is that?

And yes, I take in homeless dogs and cats on occasion. Only have two cats and a dog. Never more than 3 animals at a time.

Sapphire, he just has no idea how good a person you are--or he does, and he knows he just doesn't deserve such a good daughter.

YoungAmerican
10-17-2007, 02:44 PM
Maybe this is his sister, it might explain why she and him have problems since it seems FH likes to lie about his mother having cancer.

Lola Sablan Santos is the Executive Director of Guam Communications Network (GCN), the only non-profit community-based organization providing multi-service to the Chamorro/Guamanian community in Los Angeles County, throughout the U.S. and Guam. Her knowledge of the Chamorro culture and community infrastructure has allowed her to gain access and establish strong ties with the Pacific Islander community. She has been involved in breast cancer outreach and education for nearly three years. Ms. Sablan Santos has served as the project director for the first Pacific Islander program in Orange and Los Angeles County in California. She was also a consultant for the Cancer and Pacific Islander Research Project with University of California at Irvine, and for Pacific Asian Language Services in their Asian and Pacific Islander breast cancer outreach and education program. Through her organization, she along with a group of women became the first Pacific Islander women to be trained as "Special Touch Facilitators" with the American Cancer Society and as a result, more than 500 Pacific Islander women have been reached and recruited to attend breast self-exam presentations. Ms. Sablan Santos serves on various committees, councils, task forces including the Breast Cancer Early Detection Program Asian and Pacific Islander advisory committee, the Executive Council of the Orange County Breast Cancer Partnership, API Task Force of the Orange County Breast Cancer Partnership, API Task Force for Partnered for Progress and BCEDP's Media Ad Hoc committee. Finally, she is responsible for the development of breast and cervical cancer health materials in Chamorro, Samoan and Tongan languages.

Seems like a little too successful for that family though.

Ritchie
10-17-2007, 02:46 PM
<~~~standing in line after Amused...though I'm somewhat nervous about what's going to fall out of THAT pinata....

This one sounds like a job for wonkatania!

Newer Reader
10-17-2007, 02:48 PM
It is true. It was during the divorce. I felt so bad for my Friend. You can now understand why I had to move from San Diego County. FH thinks that because he is "A Big Deal" that rules don't apply to him. He wasn't even allowed on campus. It was quite embarrassing. Sad that my children and I have to be attached to that memory.

Amused, it was a long time ago but I don't think you had any reason to be embarrased, although I understand why you might have felt that way. It's sad that it affected you and the kiddos, but from my perspective his behavior was NO REFLECTION on you at all and I hope you can un-attach from that memory! As the parent who happened to be there that day, I didn't know the whole story and didn't want to, but it was clear that there was only one person involved who was out of control and had reason to be embarrassed--XXXFH.

NR

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 02:48 PM
I can see it! Look, now Tommy is doing that King of The World thing like Leonardo Dicaprio did in Titanic. How funny and original! Just like the showgram. Uh, oh. Looks like Tommy is losing his balance. Oh no, there he goes over the side of the boat! "Don't worry," Laura and Michelle scream, "We'll save you, Tommy!" And there go Laura and Michelle over board. Oops, they really didn't think that through. So unlike them to leap before they think. They probably should have thrown him a life raft or something instead of going overboard. Okay, well, anyone else want to thrown them a life line? Anyone? Anyone? Well, someone should at least throw a Lifesaver candy in so we can say "We tried, but, alas their denseness took them to the bottom of the sea to swiflty for us to intervene."

LOL I bet your absolutely right if he was on a cruise with mooch they would re-enact that scene.....

in my email to him i told him since he's loosing so much weight the cruise will be an extra treat....but ugh the idea of him without a shirt makes me want to gag....Im going to hawaii in january orginally was going to take a cruise.....thank god we decided to just go to all the islands on our own...that could be a disaster if he was on that cruise too...blah.

I was hoping he would email me back cuz i asked if he was taking the whole family but no response...=(

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 02:51 PM
iamsheens...you certainly don't sound vain. You have a great attitude toward your life and the hand that was dealt you. Please know that your posts have been very helpful to me. Your dad, (and Wabbit's Ex, and DreamerGal's Ex) sound so much like my own Ex who is the father of my two youngest daughters. You guys give me hope and comfort, not to mention some very useful tools I can use to help raise my children to be happy, healthy and well-balanced. Thanks to all of you who have shared their personal, and painful, experiences in relation to this thread. It really does help.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 03:07 PM
Sapphie,
thanks so much for your nice comment. I dont think I ever really appreciated or recogonized the sacrafices my mom went through to raise my brother and I till I moved out on my own. When times got hard my mom was always there to help me out even though I am in Missouri and she is in California. My dad lives in dallas which is a 6 hour drive from me and has not once came and visited me. He says he will, he makes plans to and always cancels out on me. In March or April of this year he did it to me again and I realized its not worth trying with him, and its not worth crying everytime he lets me down. My life has been less stressful and contained a lot less tears since i made that decision. It's hard but he hasn't once tried to call and talk to me and I still continue to make the effort. I recently wrote him a letter and sent some picture....and no response from him. I guess the real test will be come December when I graduate and if he shows up for my graduation. Its sad we live so close and yet he's never made an effort. My mom however has came and visited me at least a 1/2 dozen times but usually she fly's me home to San Diego a few times a year. oh well thats life I guess...ao Sapphie the moral of the story is that as your kids get older...hopefully no one else has a father like this and even though its sounds like some of these ex-husbands on the boards are a jerk hopefully they wisen up or they are going to loose their children's love and respect. Thanks again for listening Im glad Im a help.

LisaP
10-17-2007, 03:20 PM
YoungAmerican. This is what is posted on Lola's bio on the CPHS Alumni Directory.

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Lola Sablan (now Santos)

E-Mail: [email protected]
Home Page: http://www.guamcomnet.org
Occupation: Executive Director
Message: Hafa Adai from Santa Monica, California. Just read what my brother Tommy provided on my info-sketch--need to correct. In 1993, I started a non-profit organization called Guam Communications Network, commonly known as GCN. We are the sole multi-service agency that is community-based and provides services for the Chamorro people (group indigenous to the island of Guam). Some of our projects include a Chamorro women's breast cancer research project in partnership with UCI - I am co-principal investigator. We also have the Chamorro Arts and Cultural Center, Youth-2-Youth Pacific Islanders, education and outreach programs on health and chronic diseases and community leadership development. I served on the State's Task Force on Multicultural Health under the Department of Health Services and am currently a national steering committee member of the Asian and Pacific Islander National Cancer Survivors Network. My work provides me the opportunity to create programs that benefit the community and also utilize technology in creating educational materials.

Transplant
10-17-2007, 03:32 PM
Amused, is this FH's sister, Rose? http://www.4rsandiegorealestate.com/agent/view_image.php?image=http://www.realtydrive.com/photo/4rsandiegorealestate/Rose.jpg


I don't think that's Rose. From what I remember about FH's blogs...Rose is about 15 years older than him!

LisaP
10-17-2007, 03:47 PM
I don't think that's Rose. From what I remember about FH's blogs...Rose is about 15 years older than him!

Rose graduated 5 years before FH. Lola graduated 15 yeard before FH.

Trixie
10-17-2007, 03:54 PM
That is classic. 40 x 28 sized Levi jeans. I'm going to have to just check out that exact size next time I'm at Sears. Would that be a custom cut? Maybe the Big and Short store? If I stepped into a pair of 40 x 28, it would look like I was wearing highwaters, and one of those "After" shots from a weight loss center. I wear a more common 32 x 32 Levi jean. But I'm 5'10" and in a healthy weight range.

Holy Balls! Make that Holy Jingle Ball! That should be the name of the holiday music-palooza. Holly Balls? What about Holly Jingle Ball? I'm gonna make a secret bet that XXXL is going to mention church in the next 48 hours in one of his blogs. Before the weekend begins Saturday am. He should mention something about no Charger game and something about church, or he doesn't have holy balls.

On the subject of Blogs.........his 3-day Blog is pathetic. I know you won't have to go to the website, let me give you details. Since he started the 3-day training with Babs in August. XXXL has 5 (five) measly blogs. Compare that to the number of times he blogs on his FH blog in that same time gap. And he can't count. He has two listed as #4, and the official 5th one has the wrong month connected to it. If he reads this post (and we know he will) he will get this corrected. He will probably discuss his TrainWreckWalk planned for this weekend. He should take pride in his 3-Day Blog, because the station runs ads (which I turn the channel as soon as I hear the promo start) to hype the 3-Day event. We shall see, in due time. Babs has about 8 blogs in the same amount of time, and her days and months are accurate.

Welcome to the Posting Lurkers. We love you! Strength in numbers, mathematically speaking.:hihi:

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 03:59 PM
So Im at work and we are under a tornado watch....according to Tommy's thinking ways...if I think that a tornado won't hit where Im at, than it wont happen right?

Somebody amuse me... as the clouds move faster and the tornado warnings get closer and closer to me Im starting to freak out....a girl from San Diego should never have to be in dangerous weather...earthquakes Im prepared for but not tornados...ack!

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 04:02 PM
There is a picture on this page of the Lola Sablan (now Santos) referred to by YoungAmerican and LisaP.

http://www.apiahf.org/programs/ncsn/committee.htm

is there any family resemblance? Is this the sister with whom Tommy disagrees so much?

Trixie
10-17-2007, 04:04 PM
iamsheens, where are you? SoCal or the MidWest?

Tornado watch, what are you talking about? Do I need to turn on the telly? Is there going to one of those rolling screens with the *beep* - *beep* - *beep* warning saying that the National Weather Service has declared a Tornado Watch in San Diego County?

Please clarify!

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 04:07 PM
i see the resemblence i guess i didnt realize tommy was part guam or is that considered hawaiian pacific?

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 04:09 PM
iamsheens, where are you? SoCal or the MidWest?

Tornado watch, what are you talking about? Do I need to turn on the telly? Is there going to one of those rolling screens with the *beep* - *beep* - *beep* warning saying that the National Weather Service has declared a Tornado Watch in San Diego County?

Please clarify!

haha sorry to scare you the tornado watch is in the midwest... Im in Missouri... and note to anyone there is nothing exciting in the midwest dont ever move here...luckily I am moving once I graduate...thankfully

a tornado in california would be interesting though, imagine the news coverage...TORNADO WATCH 2007!
haha...

boris85
10-17-2007, 04:16 PM
That is classic. 40 x 28 sized Levi jeans. I'm going to have to just check out that exact size next time I'm at Sears. Would that be a custom cut? Maybe the Big and Short store? If I stepped into a pair of 40 x 28, it would look like I was wearing highwaters, and one of those "After" shots from a weight loss center. I wear a more common 32 x 32 Levi jean. But I'm 5'10" and in a healthy weight range.

Holy Balls! Make that Holy Jingle Ball! That should be the name of the holiday music-palooza. Holly Balls? What about Holly Jingle Ball? I'm gonna make a secret bet that XXXL is going to mention church in the next 48 hours in one of his blogs. Before the weekend begins Saturday am. He should mention something about no Charger game and something about church, or he doesn't have holy balls.

On the subject of Blogs.........his 3-day Blog is pathetic. I know you won't have to go to the website, let me give you details. Since he started the 3-day training with Babs in August. XXXL has 5 (five) measly blogs. Compare that to the number of times he blogs on his FH blog in that same time gap. And he can't count. He has two listed as #4, and the official 5th one has the wrong month connected to it. If he reads this post (and we know he will) he will get this corrected. He will probably discuss his TrainWreckWalk planned for this weekend. He should take pride in his 3-Day Blog, because the station runs ads (which I turn the channel as soon as I hear the promo start) to hype the 3-Day event. We shall see, in due time. Babs has about 8 blogs in the same amount of time, and her days and months are accurate.

Welcome to the Posting Lurkers. We love you! Strength in numbers, mathematically speaking.:hihi:

Ringling Bros. want their tent back Tummy! God, I am a 34 x 32. He is enormously wide and oddly short. He should perform at Jingle Ball and rename it Jiggle Ball.

11ListenerNot
10-17-2007, 04:18 PM
So Im at work and we are under a tornado watch....according to Tommy's thinking ways...if I think that a tornado won't hit where Im at, than it wont happen right?

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Tommy is a tornedo. He flies all over. PQ to CV, restaurants, taco shops, starbucks, etc. all in 4 hours!

DreamerGal
10-17-2007, 04:21 PM
There is a picture on this page of the Lola Sablan (now Santos) referred to by YoungAmerican and LisaP.

http://www.apiahf.org/programs/ncsn/committee.htm

is there any family resemblance? Is this the sister with whom Tommy disagrees so much?

She sure does bear a striking resemblance to FH ... though she looks slightly more human.

LisaP
10-17-2007, 04:22 PM
There is a picture on this page of the Lola Sablan (now Santos) referred to by YoungAmerican and LisaP.

http://www.apiahf.org/programs/ncsn/committee.htm

is there any family resemblance? Is this the sister with whom Tommy disagrees so much?

FH looks different from all of his other siblings. He has lighter skin and hair.

DreamerGal
10-17-2007, 04:26 PM
FH looks different from all of his other siblings. He has lighter skin and hair.

I wonder what the Sablan's milkman looked like back in 1964?

pax
10-17-2007, 04:26 PM
LisaP - tell us what you know.... :)

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 04:33 PM
iamsheen...hey, I just got this message from my friend Tommy Sablan. He's a big deal producer (aka toad) at a local radio station.

I told him about the tornado watch in your area. He suggested that you use his mathematical formula...see, you subtract 20 mph from the wind velocity, then you subtract your weight, minus your caloric intake, times four burritos, and 17 attempts to lie to your family, adding onto the lies told in your blog...oh, wait. you DO have a public blog to display your lies, don't you? No? Well, you need to get with the program. You need to blog, and lie to try to make yourself forget what a shallow moron you are. But I digress from the mathematical formula...back to that: so now you have an integer of mammoth proportions. I don't want to bother with calculating it mathematically, but trust me, there's a big old number, verified by the mathematical elements alone.

Now, you see...you call the weatherman in your area. No, wait. Maybe you should call the Tornado Command Center. They would be in charge. Call them, tell them you are a friend of FH I mean Tommy Sablan, and DEMAND that they reroute the tornado.

Mathematically, it will go away. Problem solved.

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 04:35 PM
There was one great thing on the J&J website today..I'll try to put the link in here so anyone interested can see it, (in order not to give their site more hits) but I'm not so proficient and clever at these things like many of you here are.

The clip gave me goosebumps and brought tears...the guy is so humble and non-assuming but yet has such an awesome gift and talent. I hope Tommy took note...if he even looked at it...that it's possible, easy in fact, to be great and widely recognized without being an enormous bullhorn for your own PR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA

11ListenerNot
10-17-2007, 04:37 PM
I wonder what the Sablan's milkman looked like back in 1964

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Ha Ha my thought exactly. Maybe there was a rat in the woodpile?

GirlfromOR
10-17-2007, 04:39 PM
Question for GirlfromOR

Was tommy responding automatically to your emails or like how much time was inbetween each email?

I only ask because he seems to attack everyone and say we need lives but if he is responding to everyone so quickly, don't you think he's the one that needs a life?

He responded pretty quick with my email, which I plan to post Im just trying to wait and see if he is planning on responding to me before I post them...

He was responding pretty quickly. W/in about 10 minutes. Definitely sitting at his computer and not w/ his "girlfriend".

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 04:41 PM
iamsheen...hey, I just got this message from my friend Tommy Sablan. He's a big deal producer (aka toad) at a local radio station.

I told him about the tornado watch in your area. He suggested that you use his mathematical formula...see, you subtract 20 mph from the wind velocity, then you subtract your weight, minus your caloric intake, times four burritos, and 17 attempts to lie to your family, adding onto the lies told in your blog...oh, wait. you DO have a public blog to display your lies, don't you? No? Well, you need to get with the program. You need to blog, and lie to try to make yourself forget what a shallow moron you are. But I digress from the mathematical formula...back to that: so now you have an integer of mammoth proportions. I don't want to bother with calculating it mathematically, but trust me, there's a big old number, verified by the mathematical elements alone.

Now, you see...you call the weatherman in your area. No, wait. Maybe you should call the Tornado Command Center. They would be in charge. Call them, tell them you are a friend of FH I mean Tommy Sablan, and DEMAND that they reroute the tornado.

Mathematically, it will go away. Problem solved.


Hilarious Wabbit! :lmfao:

GirlfromOR
10-17-2007, 04:42 PM
Wait so he ate all that food plus a frozen pizza when he was emailing oregon girl? Thats absolutely disguisting if its true...eating steak, lobster and fried rice should have filled him up for the night, what a pig.

and after eating all that and a pizza he still managed to loose 2 lbs...wow....he is such an arrogant jerk.

WOW! I wish I didn't have to sleep all day so I could have been in on the fun of this little tidbit! All of that AND a pizza? WOW. Yeah, he said he lost 2lbs while we were emailing. WTF? Mathmatical? More like magical.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 04:49 PM
iamsheen...hey, I just got this message from my friend Tommy Sablan. He's a big deal producer (aka toad) at a local radio station.

I told him about the tornado watch in your area. He suggested that you use his mathematical formula...see, you subtract 20 mph from the wind velocity, then you subtract your weight, minus your caloric intake, times four burritos, and 17 attempts to lie to your family, adding onto the lies told in your blog...oh, wait. you DO have a public blog to display your lies, don't you? No? Well, you need to get with the program. You need to blog, and lie to try to make yourself forget what a shallow moron you are. But I digress from the mathematical formula...back to that: so now you have an integer of mammoth proportions. I don't want to bother with calculating it mathematically, but trust me, there's a big old number, verified by the mathematical elements alone.

Now, you see...you call the weatherman in your area. No, wait. Maybe you should call the Tornado Command Center. They would be in charge. Call them, tell them you are a friend of FH I mean Tommy Sablan, and DEMAND that they reroute the tornado.

Mathematically, it will go away. Problem solved.

LOL IM LAUGHING SO HARD...MY co-workers must think im weird...oh well...thanks for talking to tommy for me...thats good to know because I am now in a tornado warning so if a tornado was going to hit it'd do it now...but i feel a lot safer knowing that weatherman Sablan says its going to be okay....hahahahaha thanks...

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 04:52 PM
WOW! I wish I didn't have to sleep all day so I could have been in on the fun of this little tidbit! All of that AND a pizza? WOW. Yeah, he said he lost 2lbs while we were emailing. WTF? Mathmatical? More like magical.

again I didnt realize sitting on your ass eating frozen pizza and harassing people was the secret to loosing weight....he really should write a book...i bet if someone suggested it, he would say he is already in the process of writing a book.

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 04:53 PM
It's the electricity in the two computers...yours and his. And the transmission lines...and the magnetic fields in the airwaves...those are well-known to amplify weight loss to an exponential power. If only we could understand math like Tommy. After all, he did graduate with distinction, didn't he? From high school. Certainly he wasn't one of those "Social Promotions" you hear so much about.

Seriously, now. Color me skeptical from my years of work within some nonprofits...some of those things are structured more tightly than a mafia organization...and more inbred than those dudes who done wrong by Ned Beatty in "Deliverance."

I wonder if any relatives, or maybe EX relatives might shed some light on whether this group is legit...or just another Government-subsidized free ride for friends and relatives.

Trixie
10-17-2007, 05:00 PM
So Im at work and we are under a tornado watch....according to Tommy's thinking ways...if I think that a tornado won't hit where Im at, than it wont happen right?

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Tommy is a tornedo. He flies all over. PQ to CV, restaurants, taco shops, starbucks, etc. all in 4 hours!

I got it! Tornado + Tomato + Tummy = Tumato

They sell it in the juice aisle, next to Clamato.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 05:06 PM
I just had a guy call into my work and yell at me....he mentioned something in his yelling about loosing 5 lbs while yelling at me, do you think tommy could be harrassing me?

shello
10-17-2007, 05:09 PM
Sheesh, Tommy sure does enjoy sparring with those who email him. He is a very angry boy-man.

I have always thought that B&E CHristmas (yes, FH does get a lot of "Aren't I do-gooder?" mileage from that throughout the year) should go to more families than just one. I see the outcome on the news each year and it seems that one family is completely over taken with stuff....it would be overwhelming if it were me. Why can't 3-4 families share in the joy?

Does anyone know if Moochelle (was she even mentioned in today's blob) got a haircut? I thought I saw her today in the East County but the hair was in a bob of sorts.

I do hope Delana does well and also that she gets another job soon. It must be hell for her working there with those lugnuts.

GirlfromOR
10-17-2007, 05:14 PM
His response to me:

I'm taking my mom on a cruise in January. I'm taking her to places she wants to.

There is nothing wrong other than old age with my mother. If you think I should hide that, then you need to learn about life.

I like that he ignored my question about his mom having cancer \

Oh no, he answered you about the cancer. He said clearly, there is nothing wrong other than old age with my mother. She doesn't have cancer! She's just OLD! He is so disgusting.

iamsheens
10-17-2007, 05:19 PM
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Oh no, he answered you about the cancer. He said clearly, there is nothing wrong other than old age with my mother. She doesn't have cancer! She's just OLD! He is so disgusting.

oh your right I didn't even think of that...you know its one thing to lie about small petty stuff like being at a wedding your werent even invited to or saying you weren't in a bar filming a segment for the show after a Chargers game....but to say your mom has cancer when she doesn't....thats horrible...Im really offended...then again maybe he really believes she has cancer...after all if he thinks it, then it must be true.

OneKidOneDogMom
10-17-2007, 05:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA

Thanks for this link - it's not something that I would normally enjoy, but I just spent the better part of a half hour watching videos of this guy talking and singing. XXXL could *never* approach this guy's humility and sincereness in a million years.

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 05:31 PM
You're welcome OKODMom...like you, it's not something I'd normally go out of my way to see/listen to, but I did the same as you and watched several more of the youtube clips of him. What a nice guy. (Plus, he's from Wales...part of my homeland!)

surfing_texan
10-17-2007, 07:14 PM
Thanks for this link - it's not something that I would normally enjoy, but I just spent the better part of a half hour watching videos of this guy talking and singing. XXXL could *never* approach this guy's humility and sincereness in a million years.

I just spent a half hour watching him and crying. He needs to come to the states and take a whack at the pinata.

shello
10-17-2007, 07:31 PM
WOW! ..... he said he lost 2lbs while we were emailing. WTF? Mathmatical? More like magical.

I think the word is mythical. :2far:

LisaP
10-17-2007, 07:39 PM
I wonder what the Sablan's milkman looked like back in 1964?

Funny you should say that. It has been years, but that was always a comment that I remember.


LisaP - tell us what you know.... :)

From my posts, I think you can tell that I am from FH's so called "hood", although that I not what I thought of the neighborhood then, or now.

I don't have a huge can of beans to spill, but I can confirm or deny some of FH's comments [about the past and the present], which is what I will continue to do.

shello
10-17-2007, 08:09 PM
The board has been busy today. I skimmed through all of the posts and did not see this discussed, so sorry if I am pulling a Dil-b. But did anyone see the line in LBM diary today about how proud she was of her kids. Laura said, "Dave and I must be doing something right." I fell off my chair. Wow! Couldn't be further from reality. Considering the divorce and the immense turmoil Laura has caused the family, I am glad those two sound so close.

gossipgurl
10-17-2007, 08:18 PM
Amused, is this FH's sister, Rose? http://www.4rsandiegorealestate.com/agent/view_image.php?image=http://www.realtydrive.com/photo/4rsandiegorealestate/Rose.jpg


OH MY GOSH!! This is WAY too funny....I know this Rose and NO, she is in no way related to Tummy:) I can't wait to tell this Rose that her pic was posted on this website---she will think it's hilarious especially because she has been married to a complete psycho herself.

Jammie J.
10-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Phew! I'm all caught up now on reading the board.

A few observations... sorry these are going back a few pages:

Quote Girlfrom OR's e-mail to FH: Here's a challenge for you: Why don't you weigh yourself live on Tommytube next week. Let us see the number for ourselves.

Dear God, please, at least put the restriction that he's gotta be clothed in that request! He's always saying he weighs himself naked... *shudder*

Quote Ritchie: Why do women constantly marry these idiots then?

Because they're NOT idiots, they're Masters of Deceit. Narcissists usually pick and pursue their supply (or mate) who are (a) hurting, (b) young/inexperienced, (c) vulnerable or (d) all of the above. In other words, women/men who won't necessarily see them as they are until they're already hooked & married. Then it becomes a situation of abuse -- mental abuse is no less serious than physical abuse, in fact, mental abuse often takes longer than physical abuse to heal.

Which, of course, leads to the question, why do abused women/men stay in a relationship with their abuser?

Quote boris85: Ringling Bros. want their tent back Tummy! God, I am a 34 x 32. He is enormously wide and oddly short. He should perform at Jingle Ball and rename it Jiggle Ball.

Okay, I was chewing gum and in the middle of blowing a bubble... that seriously made me spit out my gum, I laughed so hard.

***
Then, I was thinking about Dave & LBM's situation and kind of wondered exactly how it was that LBM was kicked out of the CainHouse. I mean, aren't they joint tenants as far as ownership? A separation isn't exactly a restraining order is it?

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As for FH's scale, I googled "magical scale" but couldn't find one. There's gotta be a place out there on the Internet that makes scales that go down in weight when no weight loss is actually occurring. Clearly, he must have bought it from the scales for Big Deals, because I can't seem to find it.

Wabbitsd
10-17-2007, 08:30 PM
well, shoot, tell her to join us! LOL! (to Gossipgurl about her friend Rose).

Ohmygosh. We should all e-mail XXXL and ask him where he bought his mathematical magical mystery scale!!!

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 08:39 PM
Ohmygosh. We should all e-mail XXXL and ask him where he bought his mathematical magical mystery scale!!!

<singing>..."the magical, mystery scale is coming to take me aweigh....coming to take me aweigh...take me aweigh..."

(typo intentional....just in case you thought I couldn't spell!)

LisaP
10-17-2007, 08:40 PM
<singing>..."the magical, mystery scale is coming to take me aweigh....coming to take me aweigh...take me aweigh..."

(typo intentional....just in case you thought I couldn't spell!)

PRICELESS!

Sapphie
10-17-2007, 08:41 PM
Yes...join us Other Rose...joooin us....step into the light....

BebeSD
10-17-2007, 09:12 PM
I know this is in response to something a few pages back (sorry, it took me a while to read all 6 of today's pages and all your hilarious and meaningful posts).. but I'm a mostly-lurker and occasional poster who would like Tommy to know, when he reads this, that I was a long time listener who also googled "where is Laura Cain" after her mysterious disappearance and wandered over here, only to find others who seemed to share my growing resentment at the Showgram's not-funny, self-righteous, inappropriately-named-familiy-material. I'm disgusted with their veneration of Laura's problems, their thinking that Tommy is just an adorable boy from the hood (when he's really a sadist with closet addictions), J&J thinking they've been on so long that we'll all stick around and listen to their lazy replaying of outdated and unfunny material, and the entire egoism of the show in general.

I haven't listened in months.

Whew. Thanks for letting me rant.

SDReadhead
10-17-2007, 09:12 PM
Ringling Bros. want their tent back Tummy! God, I am a 34 x 32. He is enormously wide and oddly short. He should perform at Jingle Ball and rename it Jiggle Ball.

Don't you mean "Jiggle Holly Balls" Boris?

SDReadhead
10-17-2007, 09:23 PM
<singing>..."the magical, mystery scale is coming to take me aweigh....coming to take me aweigh...take me aweigh..."

(typo intentional....just in case you thought I couldn't spell!)

Oh that's hillarious! :wavey:

I think I know where XXXL FH got his magical mystery scale. I am pretty sure he bought it on EBAY from a vendor named T.Johnston.


Does Big Deal mean Fat A$$ in Guamanian? (not that there's anything wrong with that).

SDReadhead
10-17-2007, 09:31 PM
I have yet to speak with Mr. Steele. It seems we're playing phone tag. If he thinks I'm going to go away, he needs to think again.

One of the first reasons I stopped listening to their morning show was because of how Tommy treated my husband and I at a station related event.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

You go, Tex! I'm so glad you have the strength of character to follow up on this. Not that it's my business, but I'm always one to be a nebby nose!) ... what happened with you and hour husband? If it has even 1/10th the psycho nature of these recent emails, I feel sorry for you that you had to encounter such cuckooness in person.

Ritchie
10-17-2007, 09:34 PM
There was one great thing on the J&J website today..I'll try to put the link in here so anyone interested can see it, (in order not to give their site more hits) but I'm not so proficient and clever at these things like many of you here are.

The clip gave me goosebumps and brought tears...the guy is so humble and non-assuming but yet has such an awesome gift and talent. I hope Tommy took note...if he even looked at it...that it's possible, easy in fact, to be great and widely recognized without being an enormous bullhorn for your own PR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA

This is a very old clip. I remember hearing them talk about this guy months and months ago.

I'm surprised jer(k) didn't take credit for finding the link himself.

By the way, they get most of their stuff from fark.com. I would read it on there and a week later it would be in LBM's "news".

Trixie
10-17-2007, 09:39 PM
To quote a line from Turko : It Ain't Right!

Not that I'm a fan of the local tv KUSI and the Turko character (and not that there is anything wrong with that), but do you think we can get the Turko Files to investigate XXXL? Turko and his investigators (I'm assuming he has help, perhaps he flies solo) have dug up some good stuff and turned a bad situation better, when possible. I'd like to see FH's wrong Blogs set right, because as we have seen time and again, XXXL Ain't Right! He is wrong, Wrong, WRONG! (sorry for caps)

I googled "Breaking and Entering Christmas" and found there are other radio stations all across the country that have this same titled version of a radio event. Interesting. I wasn't able to pick just one to highlight. See for yourselves if you are interested. This means that FH-XXXL-40x28 isn't alone in his goodness. Maybe he was one of the first, or even the first way back in the beginning, but it has caught on, and luckily, for a few select families, they do experience a better holiday by radio intervention. Now that, is something done right. It ain't all wrong.

OneKidOneDogMom
10-17-2007, 09:47 PM
The board has been busy today. I skimmed through all of the posts and did not see this discussed, so sorry if I am pulling a Dil-b. But did anyone see the line in LBM diary today about how proud she was of her kids. Laura said, "Dave and I must be doing something right." I fell off my chair. Wow! Couldn't be further from reality. Considering the divorce and the immense turmoil Laura has caused the family, I am glad those two sound so close.

I also saw this and my first thought is that LBM has no right to claim any credit for how those kids are growing up - she hasn't been around enough in a "full-parental" mode to make any kind of GOOD influence on them!

I'm a single (divorced from one of *those* guys that have been discussed a lot today) Mom that has 99.99999% physical custody of her child. My son is bright, kind, loving, polite and giving - ONLY because I have taken the time to instill and encourage those qualitites in him. His "dad" (and I use the term loosely) has only shown him cursory attention in the last 9 years.

My situation is somewhat the "flip side" of the Cain situation. I am the 100% there parent - so is DaveCain. I'm the one that does homework, attends doctors appointments and teacher conferences, etc. - so is DaveCain.

How LBM gets off taking ANY credit for how those kids have turned out really burns me (can you tell???) Argh!!!

Laura - take a parenting class, get some counseling, quit being the "good time mom". Otherwise you'll pay dearly in the future.....

ElizabethAZ
10-17-2007, 09:48 PM
Hi! Another longtime lurker, first-time poster. I grew up in SD but moved to AZ several years ago. I started following JJ through their website, and I found this site a while ago. I would read it occasionally, but it didn't really pick up until March when Laura disappeared. That's when I got hooked, been here ever since. Thanks for letting me play!

Oh, and LBM and FHBM.