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BigAl
11-24-2007, 02:05 PM
I may be rather stoopid. But isn't Vanessa a little young to be running around a heavily crowded mall with friends on the day after Thanksgiving on Black Friday????? She was at Nordies?? Isn't that a quite expensive place place for a kid to be used to shop at??? Of course FH gave them all they own credit cards with huge limits and said go for it/////// Spend as you please.
I bet Mooch got her own AMEX Black from FH and bought a new Range Rover, an italian leather sofa, and of course Bling bling.
I guess when your an advertised Big Deal in SD Cty you do things like that. Now that everyone (including bad people) know who everyone looks like it is only a matter of time before something could happen. Hope not. Sad sad parenting indeed.

Big fires again in Malibu. Can see the smoke from the upper window. Hope they get it out soon. I read that Hulk Hogans wife filed for divorce and he found out through a newspaper.

That weird and wild COTO lifestyle of extremely spoiled and high maintenance. It is the the root of the evil. I had an uncle who was filthy rich in the 50's but no one knew until after he died. He lived like a pauper.
Anyway, have a grand day.

BigAl
11-24-2007, 02:09 PM
Oh, forgot about the "Orbs" in the pictures FH took. I bet it is dust.....but he can say and believe what he wants.

And another thing, other members of this board have emailed FH over time to only receive seething replies with GOD painted all over it or save your soul, or remarks like that.....IS FH a late night televangelist or something???? I mean he acts and sounds like he is our saviour. True he is Moochies saviour of the Dollar $$$ god, but what gives...?

SDGirl87
11-24-2007, 03:44 PM
There are 2 facts that you may need to be reminded of.

1) There is a God.

2) You are not Him.

Love always,
SDG

Transplant
11-24-2007, 04:31 PM
And another thing, other members of this board have emailed FH over time to only receive seething replies with GOD painted all over it or save your soul, or remarks like that.....IS FH a late night televangelist or something???? I mean he acts and sounds like he is our saviour. True he is Moochies saviour of the Dollar $$$ god, but what gives...?

No, FH heard that the President of Oral Roberts University is resigning and is aligning himself to be the next inline!

INRE: Vanessa being at NCFM. . .I guarantee her mom or some parental figure (i.e., cares about where the children are,,,what they're doing, etc) were present. We know that FH doesn't directly mention the ex-wife except to make small inuendo's about fav. drinks, special dates that correlate to Moochelle (Dannells b-day being the same date, etc) Who cares where she was shopping...I guarantee FH said Nordy['s to impress people that "she CAN shop there...because I'm her dad!"

shello
11-24-2007, 04:39 PM
There are 2 facts that you may need to be reminded of.

1) There is a God.

2) You are not Him.

Love always,
SDG

God just called and said...."Tell Tommy to keep my name out of his shenanigans." He also said Tommy had a lot of work to do on himself before he could be in god's good graces. God also said that kissing up to Father Joe ain't gonna cut it either. :|

Anyway, all...hope you had a great Thanksgiving and are getting in the holiday spirit! :)

NewAgeGoddess
11-24-2007, 06:37 PM
OMG!!!!! I was just at the Von's in PQ. I was in a hurry on my way into the bathroom and I am almost sure I passed FH. He is shorter that me and I'm 5'6". He is also round and had a very grumpy face. Maybe LBM and Moochelle ganged up and made him go to the store.

BigAl
11-24-2007, 06:49 PM
FH at Vons?? He wouldn't go to just any store...unless, as you said that LBH and Mooch Made him go to either get feminine products or for him to be away so they can clean out all the valuables and make their escape.
I am suprised that FH didn't hit on you.

IZZY
11-24-2007, 07:34 PM
Happy belated Thanksgiving to everyone!

Another FH lie....there is no way Vanessa was at Nordies at 5am considering it didn't open until 8. In fact I don't think any of the North County Fair stores opened at 5. Macy's opened at 6 and that is the earliest I am aware of any of the stores opening other than maybe Sears in that mall.

SDGirl87
11-24-2007, 08:12 PM
Happy belated Thanksgiving to everyone!

Another FH lie....there is no way Vanessa was at Nordies at 5am considering it didn't open until 8. In fact I don't think any of the North County Fair stores opened at 5. Macy's opened at 6 and that is the earliest I am aware of any of the stores opening other than maybe Sears in that mall.


I was at NC Fair at 7:00. The mall was JUST opening, in fact, I was surprised at how many stores were not open, though Sears and Pennys were both open earlier. According to the NC Times: At Westfield North County in Escondido, J.C. Penney will open at 4 a.m., Macy's at 6 a.m. and Nordstrom at 8 a.m.

BigAl
11-24-2007, 08:28 PM
SO, FH was either confused....or.... it was a lie that implied that we (The FH crew) are better than you (the rest of us) as my kids can shop at Norstrom and yours can't?

califbrat
11-24-2007, 08:37 PM
SDGirl87

AMEN to that! Of course FH said Nordy's to impress all of us peons! I love Nordy's too but the rack is more my speed..even tho I have the big store like all of us fashion icon's my budget says something different AND I am not in debt to any credit card to boot! If I can't afford it or save up for it I..yes I don't buy it! Something the young FH's spawn will never know sadly & then learn how to run to d a d d y for help!

SDReadhead
11-24-2007, 08:40 PM
P.S. Don't tell SDRedHead about the missing article between "this" and "their."

I was simply too lazy to add the "is." :)

I leave my red pen in the classroom! The only time you'll see my grammar antenna up is when FH uses of instead of have, and that's only because I love to mock FH.

NewAgeGoddess
11-24-2007, 09:49 PM
I HATE Nordstroms. They don't have a plus size department.

pastherprime
11-24-2007, 11:58 PM
NORDIES?!? Might as well just head on over to Charlotte Russe.

Even though I live in a cardboard box with a blanket, pillow, plastic bag tarp, and my dog, I would NEVER consider giving up my stylist, dressmaker/tailor, and dog groomer.

They are my priorities, my investments, and I make sure that I work and live well below my means to afford them. Anything else would just be sad.

I guess if I got desperate, I might buy a pair of socks or undergarments at that overrated five and dime.

:D

Newer Reader
11-25-2007, 12:02 AM
I HATE Nordstroms. They don't have a plus size department.

Sure, they do! It's the "Encore" department. Here's the link online: http://shop.nordstrom.com/C/6007059/0~2376776~2374327~6007059?mediumthumbnail=Y&origin=leftnav&pbo=2374327

Now, I assumed you were talking about a women's department. If you planned on shopping for XXXFH, then I can't help you!

So, will he or won't he show up at the Old Globe? :turkey:

NR #26

pastherprime
11-25-2007, 08:12 AM
So, will he or won't he show up at the Old Globe?

I have it from a credible source that he is not scheduled to be there; only Laura. Of course, he could read this and decide to change my name to MUD by actually changing his plans (and THAT would be flattering to know that a SOMEBODY is controlled by a little person. Just think of the power I would have!)

Do I actually care what this man does? I care about as much as knowing that my cardboard box neighbor is about to fire up his Benz SL 65 and go somewhere. I came upon the source by coincidence, and found myself too tempted to let the person get away without asking.

Small world.

iamsheens
11-25-2007, 08:36 AM
OK I WAS JUST ON THE JEFF AND JER website and saw the pics of the "orbs" and I am going to go on a hunch here but the "orbs" in the pic are from the flash in the camera....how can one person be such an idiot?

Also did anyone else ever look at his photo gallery? There is one pic of him from when he was on love connection in the 80's with his Tom Selleck mustache...how unattractive.

LisaP
11-25-2007, 10:06 AM
I really wish that I could see the time on the clock in pic #4. In the other pics you can see a window and see that it is light out.

After reading FH's blob, I was questioning whether or not he was at his mom's ON Thanksgiving. He talks about his mom's house and being there, but not directly mentioning T-Day. Also, there is NO mention of food. WTF?

I can tell you all, that unless he and his entourage arrived via teleport, or a taxi/limo that came and went, he was NOT at his mom's house on T-Day between 11AM and 4PM.

SDGirl87
11-25-2007, 10:46 AM
I really wish that I could see the time on the clock in pic #4. In the other pics you can see a window and see that it is light out.

After reading FH's blob, I was questioning whether or not he was at his mom's ON Thanksgiving. He talks about his mom's house and being there, but not directly mentioning T-Day. Also, there is NO mention of food. WTF?

I can tell you all, that unless he and his entourage arrived via teleport, or a taxi/limo that came and went, he was NOT at his mom's house on T-Day between 11AM and 4PM.

Of course he wasn't. He and his ilk were in line for the 5:00 a.m. open of Nordies at North County Fair. GEEZE. You KNOW that line was RAPPED (or is it wrapped??? GAG) around the store in eager anticipation of the opening. I'm sure that Santa himself was present to grace the moment.

Nordies. Ha. Whatever. Sorry, it's outside of my budget and I don't plan on having to secure a second and third job to pay for Christmas, so I'll stick with tasteful (though clearly inferior) items purchased at other locations.

Here's another thought for those on my Christmas list this year and yes, I realize that it makes me a scrooge...if 3 modest gifts were enough for the baby Jesus, then it's enough for the rest of us. I'm just saying.

Headed to the Bolt game! Toodles :)

sputnick
11-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Gee, do you think that FH's last blob was a passive aggressive dig to Amused? Very obvious that he was hinting around about his own situation but using Van Halen's family as the example in his "tell all diary." He loves to get in the digs doesn't he?

Daisy CA
11-25-2007, 11:02 AM
Can you imagine if Eddie Van Halen had an ex wife that simply couldn’t stand the success he continued to have after their divorce and made it hard for him everyday of his life? Can you imagine if Valerie Bertinelli publicly tried everyday of her life to make people hate her ex husband and to have people feel that she was the GOOD ONE? Can you imagine if no matter how good Eddie Van Halen’s life has become and if his life was happy with a new love of his life and his kid was great, he would still have an ex bashing him and going back into the past and bringing a negativity to their whole family that simply isn’t even necessary?

I can’t, can you?


Quite the jab, huh?

OneKidOneDogMom
11-25-2007, 11:11 AM
Oh my. I think XXXL is showing his insecurities. And the fact that he definitely reads this forum.

Whatever happened between Eddie Van Halen and Valerie Bertinelli is their business. Sure Eddie had substance abuse problems (oh, wait, hmmm, XXXL?) and they got divorced (oh, wait, hmmm, XXXL?) but I don't ever recall Eddie Van Halen being charged with spousal abuse (oh, wait, hmmmmmmmm, XXXL????).....

And do we really know that Valerie Bertinelli *hasn't* publicly said things about Eddie Van Halen under a "screen name" that we don't know about?

sputnick
11-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Okay FH, who am I to say that ORBS don't exist. I do believe that loved ones that have passed on do exist in a spiritual form. I hope this won't burst your bubble though but...................there isn't really a Santa Claus! I know how you hate to face reality.
BTW, if you want to be loved unconditionally, get a dog! Sorry to all the dog lovers out there, including myself.

OneKidOneDogMom
11-25-2007, 12:38 PM
BTW, if you want to be loved unconditionally, get a dog! Sorry to all the dog lovers out there, including myself.

No, no, no! Please don't encourage XXXL to get a dog. He can't even deal with the humans he's involved with - a dog is a life-long commitment and we know he has the "revolving-door" mentality.

He should get himself a blow-up doll. I'm sure he could take care of one of those!

Trixie
11-25-2007, 01:53 PM
Saturday November 24, 2007 6pm
Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 11:56am

Saturday November 24, 2007 6pm: I Did BOTH Iron Mountain and Torrey Pines this morning. I wanted to do a THREESOME by doing Cowles Mountain tonight for a moonlight walk with many of the friends/regulars that walk and hike together. A lot of them went their tonight and are just about to take off, but Michelle and I weren’t feeling too well after today, so we decided to stay in. The moon looks awesome tonight.

Michelle worked hard this morning. She took her daughter Evie on a backpack to both Iron and Torrey and it just kicked her butt and she worked off more turkey than all of us put together. I wanted to put her daughter on my back to be polite and do the correct “man” thing, BUT LUCKILY her daughter started to cry and reached out for Michelle, so I lucked out and didn’t have to carry her. :) Well, at least I’m honest, but at the end of Torrey and completing just about 10 miles with a baby on her back, Michelle was wiped out. I don’t think I could of done that.

You know? MY MOM IS SOUNDING REALLY REALLY good lately. I’m so happy about that. She calls me first thing in the morning to say hello and at the start of the morning she is sounding really strong. About a month ago, that wasn’t the case, but NOW IT IS. J

Although, I worked out a lot today, I ate really bad. I need to simply STOP THAT.

Tomorrow is VAN HALEN! I’m looking forward to going to the concert. I’m taking Michelle and meeting the Gamboa’s, Delana, Jerry and Pam, and one of their friends. Laura is doing the OLD GLOBE thing. THE OLD GLOBE called me last week and told me NOT TO WORRY about doing the tree lighting thing. I think they kind of got irritated with me wanting to choose one or the other and basically told me to take a hike. SO, I’m doing VAN HALEN. The concert starts at 7pm tomorrow night and I will be ready to go and partying it up at 3pm……My intention is NOT TO drink, but I know Jerry will put some peer pressure on me. SO, lets see how strong I am on not wanting to drink.

I’m thinking about going shopping by myself Monday or Tuesday at one of the malls. I usually do a last minute POWER SHOP excursion right before Christmas, but I think I want to make a quick list of everyone I need to buy for and just GO FOR IT.

Both Eddie and Vanessa have birthdays coming up in a week and traditionally, I usually wait until after that to start shopping for Christmas, but I’m going to change IT UP a little this year and get it done now.

One thing that Michelle and I are debating or discussing is planning the wedding before or after we HOPEFULLY go on a cruise. I want to go on a cruise in March and she is saying maybe we should just put our energy all into the wedding. I don’t know. I hope we can do it all together.

You know what I realized today? I reminded myself that my life changed for the better after doing these walks and hikes and recently I got so busy with LIFE that I put some of the walks and hikes on hold because I just didn’t have time to do them all, BUT as I was walking at Torrey Pines today and seeing all the FRIENDS walking together, I realized I need to make these walks and hikes a PRIORITY and these walks and hikes should come first to a lot of stuff, because I really think if I do the walks LIFE IS SO MUCH BETTER. If I do LIFE stuff without the walks, things aren’t falling into place right. Did that make sense?

One more thing: THOSE ORBS that were taken at my mom’s house at Thanksgiving. I know a few of you are shaking your head and telling me that it’s nothing other than DUST or whatever on the lens, but honestly, I believe in my heart OR I want to believe in my heart that my two brothers RAY AND FRANK, my sister Barbara, my cousin WOODY, my auntie Lole, my dad, my Uncle Sandy and Auntie Mary, My Uncle Roland and Auntie Lorraine, my Uncle John, and a few more that have passed away that hung out at my mom’s on Thanksgiving ARE STILL THERE watching over my mom and the house. I can feel that to be true, so if you know for a fact that those ORBS are something that isn’t the spirit of a loved one, can you do me a favor? PLEASE DON’T TELL ME okay? I feel good and at peace because it seems as if those orbs confirm my feelings that my family is still together taking care of my mom, so please don’t mess it up for me, okay?

Love,
Tommy

Trixie
11-25-2007, 01:54 PM
Sunday November 25, 2007 6am
Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 11:56am

Sunday November 25, 2007 6am: It’s the holidays put all your negativity out the window and take this time of the year to celebrate and bring JOY to your life. I feel so good about things right now in my life. Sometimes, I don’t know how to start off this blog and then I get confused on if this blog is my feelings and it’s basically a diary or if it’s a message to YOU. I kind of bring it all together and at this very moment in my life, I am so happy.

I have a great family in my children, my fiancé, her children, my sisters, my mom and nephews, nieces, cousins, cats, dogs, etc. It’s all worked out over the years and there has been some setbacks over the years with family tragedy and other things that life takes you through, but putting your energy on the right things and forgiving and forgetting and moving forward and putting POSITIVE in your life rather than re-living the past and making a point to let the world know you need to be heard over the silliest of things and the most irrelevant things in life is what makes life worth living and what brings GOOD things to your life.

Coincidentally, I’m going to the Van Halen concert tonight. This concert shouldn’t of happened or at the very least, made it to San Diego. BUT, because of positive things going on in that group and that family, it has given them peace and given them great success.

Valerie Bertinelli and Eddie Van Halen divorced many years ago and it was a bad situation. BUT, time healed their wounds and their son’s well being made everything and everyone okay and although they are happily divorced, they are happily together taking care of business and taking care of the right things and caring about the right things that is has given WOLFIE their son, a few million in his bank because both mom and dad agreed on Wolfie going on tour and putting their disagreements OUT THE WINDOW for the right things.

Can you imagine if Eddie Van Halen had an ex wife that simply couldn’t stand the success he continued to have after their divorce and made it hard for him everyday of his life? Can you imagine if Valerie Bertinelli publicly tried everyday of her life to make people hate her ex husband and to have people feel that she was the GOOD ONE? Can you imagine if no matter how good Eddie Van Halen’s life has become and if his life was happy with a new love of his life and his kid was great, he would still have an ex bashing him and going back into the past and bringing a negativity to their whole family that simply isn’t even necessary?

I can’t, can you?

What the Van Halen family has, is a healthy and positive life that doesn’t have anymore BS and because of that, THE CORE of the original lineup plus Wolfie on bass will be playing San Diego tonight.

LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

iamsheens
11-25-2007, 02:02 PM
at least there was some honesty in the first blog...well carrying the kid during those hikes and the Old Globe telling him to leave them alone. I bet he was annoying them. At least occasionally he can put some truth into his blogs.

iamsheens
11-25-2007, 02:03 PM
Sunday November 25, 2007 6am
Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 11:56am

Sunday November 25, 2007 6am: It’s the holidays put all your negativity out the window and take this time of the year to celebrate and bring JOY to your life. I feel so good about things right now in my life. Sometimes, I don’t know how to start off this blog and then I get confused on if this blog is my feelings and it’s basically a diary or if it’s a message to YOU. I kind of bring it all together and at this very moment in my life, I am so happy.

I have a great family in my children, my fiancé, her children, my sisters, my mom and nephews, nieces, cousins, cats, dogs, etc. It’s all worked out over the years and there has been some setbacks over the years with family tragedy and other things that life takes you through, but putting your energy on the right things and forgiving and forgetting and moving forward and putting POSITIVE in your life rather than re-living the past and making a point to let the world know you need to be heard over the silliest of things and the most irrelevant things in life is what makes life worth living and what brings GOOD things to your life.

Coincidentally, I’m going to the Van Halen concert tonight. This concert shouldn’t of happened or at the very least, made it to San Diego. BUT, because of positive things going on in that group and that family, it has given them peace and given them great success.

Valerie Bertinelli and Eddie Van Halen divorced many years ago and it was a bad situation. BUT, time healed their wounds and their son’s well being made everything and everyone okay and although they are happily divorced, they are happily together taking care of business and taking care of the right things and caring about the right things that is has given WOLFIE their son, a few million in his bank because both mom and dad agreed on Wolfie going on tour and putting their disagreements OUT THE WINDOW for the right things.

Can you imagine if Eddie Van Halen had an ex wife that simply couldn’t stand the success he continued to have after their divorce and made it hard for him everyday of his life? Can you imagine if Valerie Bertinelli publicly tried everyday of her life to make people hate her ex husband and to have people feel that she was the GOOD ONE? Can you imagine if no matter how good Eddie Van Halen’s life has become and if his life was happy with a new love of his life and his kid was great, he would still have an ex bashing him and going back into the past and bringing a negativity to their whole family that simply isn’t even necessary?

I can’t, can you?

What the Van Halen family has, is a healthy and positive life that doesn’t have anymore BS and because of that, THE CORE of the original lineup plus Wolfie on bass will be playing San Diego tonight.

LONG LIVE ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Do you think this is his blog to us? Sure sounds like it.....and tommy we dont have negative feelings this holiday season we just point the truth out.

Another stab at amused as well.....ugh what an idiot he is...if he didn't make these sorts of stabs at her I don't think she would have to vent her frustrations to us. And why does tommy always compare himself to real celebrities? First it was paul and linda and now its the vanhalen family.....he really is having a celebrity identity crisis on what famous family he will model his life after.

Trixie
11-25-2007, 02:05 PM
First we had to read about XXXL comparing himself to Paul McCartney, when discussing his lust for Mooch. Now we have to read about XXXL comparing himself to Eddie and the Van Halens. Why doesn't he compare himself to Santa Claus (Breaking and entering). I guess he is insulting anyone he compares himself to. Just don't let XXXL compare himself to the members of the Drama Club, that would be wrong.

Here is what XXXL thinks to himself: Today is Sunday, Novmber 25th. Do I need to go to church? No. I'm 'holey'. Do I need to go to the Charger Game? Yes! Do I need to go to the Old Globe Tree Lighting? No. Do I need to go to the Van Halen concert? Yes!

Did XXXL mention way long ago that when V.H. did make it to San Diego, he would take his son to see that show? It doesn't sound like Little Eddie is going to see Big Eddie, if you know what I mean.

iamsheens
11-25-2007, 02:10 PM
First we had to read about XXXL comparing himself to Paul McCartney, when discussing his lust for Mooch. Now we have to read about XXXL comparing himself to Eddie and the Van Halens. Why doesn't he compare himself to Santa Claus (Breaking and entering). I guess he is insulting anyone he compares himself to. Just don't let XXXL compare himself to the members of the Drama Club, that would be wrong.

Here is what XXXL thinks to himself: Today is Sunday, Novmber 25th. Do I need to go to church? No. I'm 'holey'. Do I need to go to the Charger Game? Yes! Do I need to go to the Old Globe Tree Lighting? No. Do I need to go to the Van Halen concert? Yes!

Did XXXL mention way long ago that when V.H. did make it to San Diego, he would take his son to see that show? It doesn't sound like Little Eddie is going to see Big Eddie, if you know what I mean.

Exactly Trixie I made the same point he doesn't know what celebrity family he wants to be...with so many options it is hard to choose. Next he will compare himself to god....and then the easter bunny, and heck why not compare himself to Christopher Columbus while we are at it? How bout he just be his own family and not worry about celebrities.

The rate he is going he will be following Jon Voight and having Vanessa out of his life completely like Angelina Jolie did with her dad due to the things he says.

Trixie
11-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Exactly Trixie I made the same point he doesn't know what celebrity family he wants to be...with so many options it is hard to choose. Next he will compare himself to god....and then the easter bunny, and heck why not compare himself to Christopher Columbus while we are at it? How bout he just be his own family and not worry about celebrities.

The rate he is going he will be following Jon Voight and having Vanessa out of his life completely like Angelina Jolie did with her dad due to the things he says.

Oh-my-gosh! iamsheens, both the Easter Bunny and God did cross my mind, but I decided to stop with Santa Claus as a refernece, to stay non-secular, and not offend friends like Pax. Great minds think alike, I always say, that's why we can't/don't/won't think like XXXL.

SadSadSad
11-25-2007, 03:22 PM
FH, thanks for writing your blog today. I printed it off and used if for toilet paper.

SDReadhead
11-25-2007, 03:42 PM
Hey Tommy,

Did Eddie VanHalen call Valerie on his way home from Vegas and pretend his flight was later than it was to avoid having to pick up Wolfie for visitation time? If he did, then Valerie would have the right to be angry. I agree that living in the past is futile, but the Vegas incident happened in the present -- after "Eddie VanHalen" supposedly started living in the "Secret" -- living in the positive vibes of "honesty" and "love" and "health" and all of the other BS.

I wonder if Eddie VanHalen recently got engaged and pretended to a large listening audience that Wolfie was excited about it and behind him all the way when in reality Valerie had to go pick a distraught Wolfie up from school and comfort him while he cried?

I wonder if Eddie VanHalen pretends to be perfect? I wonder if he brags about himself to a large public audience and makes up a life that he wishes he had. If so, I'll bet Valerie sometimes gets so frustrated by that and the effect it has on her and Wolfie that she sometimes needs to vent.

I'll bet it would embitter Valerie if Eddie got lots of praise for his concern for victims of domestic violence if she were still living with the memories of the domestic violence he committed against her and if she had evidence that he still saw women as objects to be bullied and coerced into sexual situations. I wonder how frustrating it would be for Valerie if she had to foster a relationship between her son and Eddie for Wolfie's sake while at the same time knowing that the father was a pig who should have no part in helping a son mature into manhood.

I wonder if Eddie VanHalen is a passive-aggressive fat midget who hates that there are at least 160 people in San Diego who know the truth about him.

I can't, can you?

Newer Reader
11-25-2007, 04:43 PM
Sunday November 25, 2007 6am
Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 11:56am

Can you imagine if Eddie Van Halen had an ex wife that simply couldn’t stand the success he continued to have after their divorce and made it hard for him everyday of his life? Can you imagine if Valerie Bertinelli publicly tried everyday of her life to make people hate her ex husband and to have people feel that she was the GOOD ONE?

Um, sorry, he's giving Amused too much credit. Speaking for myself, the opinions I've expressed here about XXXFH were formed as a result of direct experience with him, not because of anything she said.

I'm curious about whether or not he shows at the Old Globe because if he doesn't honor the commitment he made to the most prestigious performing arts center in San Diego, then in my eyes he is an even bigger jerk than I originally thought, if that's possible.

NR #26

EmpressJ
11-25-2007, 05:12 PM
Tommy is just gross.
I used to run into the J&J crowd in the 90's when I worked at Corvette Diner and David Cohen was into the Showgram. (Notice he isn't mentioned anymore?) We used to have to attend fundraisers, bring coffee and food and the Big Deals would always give us the cold shoulder when we came bopping in because we took the attention away from them. Hey, I certainly didn't want to show up at a fundraiser in my waitress uniform and a beehive hairdo, but they could have appreciated us a little more. They were snobs even their first time in town. Corvette hosted their welcome party, a big private party and Jer was an arse back then, but I tried to give them a pass. Years later I went to a Halloween party they threw, and again they could have cared less about the ' little people.' Very uncomfortable.

Wow-Tommy jabbed Amused like that for the benefit of this thread? Made him look smaller than he is. Damn, I hope Michelle wakes up and her family sees him for what he is before it's too late. They're not idiots. And they're tall. That alone should make them kick him to the curb on her behalf.
Yuck. I listen to almost everything on the radio but them now but I need to know... what did Jer say last week that was so interesting....?

BigAl
11-25-2007, 06:53 PM
FH's obvious jab at amused was most likely on purpose under the cover of VH. Remember, these Big Deals have been doing this for some time and it hasn't been challenged until recently when this blog started getting more interest and calling them out.
Mooch's family won't do a thing either. It's all about the Benjamins and the high way of life they are now accustomed to.

Halinn
11-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Open Letter to Tubby

Hey Tubby

I formed my opinion of you by reading your ridiculous Blob and seeing you in person!!! Amused just verified what we all already knew about you. You are an abusive narcissistic creep who is getting what he deserves by marrying moneygrabbing user. Your fiance should take a long hard look before she exposes her kids to your addictions and abuse, but she is more concerned about being a big deal than being a good Mom. I do find it entertaining to watch you make a fool of yourself, I would feel sorry for you but, you brought it on yourself!!! Keep acting like an idiot it is really quite AMUSING :)



Halinn #19

SDGirl87
11-25-2007, 07:45 PM
Dear Tommy,

Yes, it's me again. Sorry to be such a bother...but I just had to tell you about my day.

You see, I made commitments that were a little tough to juggle today, but somehow, I made them all happen.

See, church is important to me. Not in a "gee, I need to be seen there so people know that I love God" way, but in a "gosh, I need to be filled/healed/forgiven/fed way" that makes a true difference in my life each week. This is, of course, my own preference and it's a very private thing to me, but you see, I happen to believe that when I tell God that I'm going to show up to His house on Sunday, that's a commitment...so I do my best to honor it.

Then, there was the Charger game. Now, in order to honor my commitment to God AND to the people I agreed to go to the game with today, I got up a little early, went to the earlier service and then drove from the church to the Stadium to make our tailgate by 11:00. Stayed for the entire game...rah rah (what a game!!) and then headed on to my NEXT commitment.

I had a choir rehearsal at 5:00 at my church for yet another commitment that I've made, Christmas at the Prado. So I left the game a little after 4:00, plowed through traffic, came home, got changed and made it back to church by 5:00 for my 2 hour rehearsal. Am I tired? You better believe it. Did I consider blowing off my commitment? Not for a minute.

Oh, by the way, I did all of this running a fever, with a sore throat and feeling like crap. Why? Because I made a commitment, and my word is my honor. People count on me to keep up my end of the deal that I make...so I do unless I'm absolutely not able to do so. Choosing to get ripped and party down at a concert isn't keeping the commitment you made to people at the Old Globe. Now your name is just a little less honorable to them. Maybe that doesn't matter to you...but it should. Your kids, afterall, are watching EVERY SINGLE decision you make.

Love always,
SDG

Newer Reader
11-25-2007, 10:08 PM
at least there was some honesty in the first blog...well carrying the kid during those hikes and the Old Globe telling him to leave them alone. I bet he was annoying them. At least occasionally he can put some truth into his blogs.

Methinks you're being too kind. XXXFH says,

THE OLD GLOBE called me last week and told me NOT TO WORRY about doing the tree lighting thing. I think they kind of got irritated with me wanting to choose one or the other and basically told me to take a hike

So, my hunch was right...The Globe...the world-reknowned Old Globe theatre in San Diego...fired Tommy Sablan for being a flake. How humiliated and ashamed he should feel. I still say that I bet this is why The Old Globe pulled the very large ad for The Grinch they were running on the website; I'll bet the station suits weren't happy about it and that this is why XXXFH had a few problems at his work last week.

What. a. jerk.

NR #26

Trixie
11-26-2007, 06:43 AM
Tuned in when the No-show Jef & post V.H. Jer came on the air this morning.

Jef was excused this morning, being stuck in Atlanta, due to holiday travel? Maybe he was getting frisked by security and his underwire bra set off the metal detectors and they needed to move him into secondary, thus missing his flight.

Jer was doing his best/worst to make his voice sound worse than it can be, from all the yelling (singing?) at the concert. Jer did mention something that contained the word Orbs in it, but it didn't really make sense at the time. If anyone else tuned in, maybe they go it.

XXXL was popping in with his speakerbox, so I assume he was in-studio.

LBM sounded clean, perhaps she had a good night's sleep?
Randy was giggling.

Delana was normal and a pleasure to listen to.

Transplant
11-26-2007, 07:28 AM
THIS IS POSTED UNDER LAURA'S DIARY...BUT AFTER READING A BIT OF IT, I REALIZE THAT IT'S FH'S

Monday November 26, 2007 6:30am
Monday, November 26, 2007 at 9:44am

Monday November 26, 2007 6:30am: Well, the last 4-5 days have been really busy. I can't believe it's been less than a few days since BLACK FRIDAY. I'm really needing to get big time shopping in. It's great to be back at work. Work for me is almost like being HOME.

My sister's birthday and Eddie and Vanessa's birthday's, Race for the Cure, holiday parties, and much more STUFF are all coming up in a few days and I need to write it all down and write down names to buy for and everything.

This year, I want more than any year to give a great Christmas to my mom. I'm actually wanting to take my mom to breaking and entering this year. Today, I go over all the letters and ask for more letters for families and I will get working on that.

Okay, so what did I do last night? Jerry, Pam, Michelle, Tom and Jennifer Gamboa, Paul Rudy and his producer, pilates instructor Deanna, and I all went to Van Halen last night. Michelle wasn't feeling too well all weekend, but she tried hard to be at the concert and I think she's not feeling well from the weekend. I should have had her stay home this weekend.

I've heard better sounding shows and I've seen better musicians, but last night I saw 3 of 4 guys that I idolized and worshipped as a kid in the late 70's and 80's and it was just SO FRICKIN COOL to see them put all their arguments and past behind them and to continue their tour and to make themselves LOTS OF MONEY.

BUT, what I was so happy to see last night and what brings a tear to my eye and a smile on my face is the fact that a little 16 year old boy that happens to be the son of Eddie Van Halen and nephew to Alex Van Halen is on stage playing bass and keeping up with his dad. How cool is that? Last night, wasn't going back into time for me and seeing a nostalgic concert, last night FOR ME was seeing a dad proud of his little boy on stage at Cox Arena. So many times, Eddie would say something in Wolfie's ear or give hima high five or look over to see how he was playing and it was just awesome. THAT'S WHY I LOVED IT last night.

It was also cool to hear that Eddie's EX was in the stands sitting by us all. How cool is that to have the mom and ex be there to support them.

I just love that!

Halinn
11-26-2007, 07:37 AM
Could Tubby be a bit hungover? He doesnt know where to post his own blob. At least explains why Mooch looks like **** in her pictures from the concert...she is not feeling good....or Tubby is starting to disgust her :puke: she will have to make the awful choice $$$$ or sleep with a disgusting slob.....hmmmmm


#19

GirlfromOR
11-26-2007, 07:38 AM
I read FH's blogs from this weekend off the jeff and jer website and instantly thought the one about the Van Halen's was a jab at Amused. My gosh, FH, get a clue! We've disliked you for so much longer than Amused has been posting here. She doesn't make us hate you, you do a pretty good job of that on your own!

Amused
11-26-2007, 07:39 AM
Just an open statement not directed to any person in particular....

Being divorced myself and having an Ex-spouse of five years that never lets anything go I found the blob and it's references very irritating. Here's my take on it:

What if FOR EXAMPLE, Eddie Van Halen (or any STAR) had an obsession with their ex-wife and continually bad mouthed her passive aggressively in a diary read by 50+ people. What if that diary was packed full of lies and poor little Wolfie cried because his friends had to read the crap that his father posted about him in an open forum. What if poor little Wolfie had to be so completely embarrassed that his insecure I-will-do-anything-to-get-people-to-notice-me-Father posted an absurd photo of his overweight-less-than-attractive-fat-troll-hairy-body on his diary website for the world to see and had to explain that to his friends. Instead poor little Wolfie would try to make a joke of it and post it on their own site and make it a bigger joke. What if poor little Wolfie had no idea that his Dad's "friend" was really his girlfriend and in less than 2 visits upon meeting this person discovers that she is going to be his new Step Mom, but dear old dad didn't have the decency to tell said child, instead Valerie had to come in and explain the poor decision to said child. What if the STAR always called to cancel his visitation at the last minute because suddenly there was a "meeting at work" that the-father-of-the-year-troll-rockstar couldn't get out of. Then thank God (the rockstar is too busy for church but really wants to attend some day) the real parent could be there to pick the child up from school. What if after 5 years the said Ex-wife was still having to change her email address and cell phone number every few months because the STAR was so completely obsessed with her that he went to every extreme to track down her telephone numbers to harass her with 50+ phone calls daily. What if the Ex-wife had to insist on meeting in a public location like a Von's parking lot to have visitation drop offs because the STAR was so obsessed that he would do drive bys and stalk her at her home and bring the police there for random reasons and pound on the door because he wanted to make a scene and the said child wasn't even comfortable living there because his father was a lunatic stalker. And you're right after 5 years you would think that the Ex-wife wouldn't get a call from her children when she is on her way to the Van Halen concert with her new boyfriend telling her that "My Dad the Rockstar is waiting out in front of Cox Arena for you and he said that you should have packed an extra shirt because he and his girlfriend are going to thrash you!" So how do you think the Ex-wife of 5 years should handle that situation genious? Perhaps another restraining order, drug testing ??? What do professionals recommend. How embarrassing do you think it is for that Ex-wife to attempt to explain complete INSANITY to her children and tell her date that she has a psychotic Ex and he may attempt to assault her on their date?

Well I can only say that anyone who chooses to date/marry such a loser has everything coming to her. It's a match made in heaven! :stupid:

Okay, so now that were done talking about what could be or could've been, in a fantasy-passive-aggressive-world. I would like to say that the VH show was a HORRIBLE waste of money last night. The sound was awful and the show was mediocre at best.

Peace out Homie :fro:

NewAgeGoddess
11-26-2007, 12:50 PM
You ROCK Amused!!!!

SDReadhead
11-26-2007, 08:53 PM
You ROCK Amused!!!!

I agree, Amused. Keep strong, and know that you are not the only person who knows what a lunatic that freak is.

Is anyone else having trouble getting this site to open tonight? It took forever for this page to load, and I kept getting error messages. I guess the elves are up to their tricks.

PQ Gal
11-26-2007, 08:59 PM
The elves are definately hard at work, must be due it being Cyber Tuesday!

ElizabethAZ
11-26-2007, 09:01 PM
Glad the site is back up!

Amused, bless your heart and thanks for sharing. So sorry you still have to deal with such a loser. Lucky for the kids that they have a great mom like you.

pax
11-26-2007, 09:25 PM
ElizabethAZ- I have to ask - what the heck is under your name in your posts?

NewAgeGoddess
11-26-2007, 09:57 PM
FH is the epitmy of bad men in the dating sphere!!!!

OneKidOneDogMom
11-26-2007, 09:58 PM
ElizabethAZ- I have to ask - what the heck is under your name in your posts?

To me it looks like a house and a tree that got hit by an earthquake :)

NewAgeGoddess
11-26-2007, 10:01 PM
I got the new mattress!!!! Need to get real sleep!!!!!!

claystone
11-26-2007, 10:17 PM
Hi everyone! If you look at picture 12 from the VH pictures, Mooch resembles Laura so much in that pix. kinda weird. have a good night.

Newer Reader
11-26-2007, 10:38 PM
Just an open statement not directed to any person in particular....
And you're right after 5 years you would think that the Ex-wife wouldn't get a call from her children when she is on her way to the Van Halen concert with her new boyfriend telling her that "My Dad the Rockstar is waiting out in front of Cox Arena for you and he said that you should have packed an extra shirt because he and his girlfriend are going to thrash you!" So how do you think the Ex-wife of 5 years should handle that situation genious? Perhaps another restraining order, drug testing ??? What do professionals recommend. How embarrassing do you think it is for that Ex-wife to attempt to explain complete INSANITY to her children and tell her date that she has a psychotic Ex and he may attempt to assault her on their date?



You know, I've never been in a situation that even remotely resembles this...so I may be naive here....but if what I read here is correct...that he threatened his ex with physical harm and, as if that weren't bad enough, relayed the threat to the ex via their children...then this is a person who should not be allowed to have children in his care. This is not good.

I wonder what irrational justification he had for making this threat? The new boyfriend? This forum? What a jerk.

NR #26

wanky
11-26-2007, 10:46 PM
Amused.....everytime Tummy blobs his idiotic, nonsensical, put me in a straightjacket NOW! way of blobbing, I shudder inside. His behavior never ceases to amaze me. He is one vindictive and delusional guy. The acts you mentioned are things that only a nutsy cuckoo would dare think of, and much more act upon. He sort of reminds me of the character in the movie "Misery". Towards the end, when the writer guy takes a whack at her, she was presumed dead. Then, when all seemed calm, she gets up and asks for more. Tummy seems to be that way. He will forever be bitter about the fact that he got left. How dare anyone toss him aside like that? After all, he's a big deal producer and continues to experience success through the years (just like Van Halen)....He will never get over that. He will also never get over the fact that he messed up his life with someone irreplaceable. I mean, I know I'm giving Amused a lot of credit having never met her in person, but that's what I choose to believe. I have a good sense about these things, much like Tummy's thinking of ORBS (but in his case, they're just one of his delusions)

Newer Reader
11-26-2007, 10:47 PM
ElizabethAZ- I have to ask - what the heck is under your name in your posts?

I like it...what would you call it, keyboard punctuation art? I see a long building (my guess is a church, given the Bible quote) with a tree and a grassy knoll in front.

I also like onekidonedogmom's swirly starry thing.

NR #26

wanky
11-26-2007, 10:51 PM
ElizabethAZ- I have to ask - what the heck is under your name in your posts?

It looks like a house with a fence in the front and tree in the back and a grassy side yard. It goes perfectly with the bible verse in her signature. Just a wild guess! ElizabethAZ, please confirm :)

pastherprime
11-26-2007, 10:56 PM
FH is the epitmy of bad men in the dating sphere!!!!

The sooner he is off the market, the easier it will be to at least have the excuse..."Nothing personal, it's just policy that I am never alone in the same room with a married man. Must avoid all appearances of any improprieties." Saves one from having to have *this* conversation...

"Well, I don't really think we're a match."

"What do you mean?"

"Umm...I think I'm not really over my ex-boyfriend."

"That was like 5 years ago."

"I know, but...you know."

"What are you trying to say?"

"You like football a lot and, umm, it just always reminds me of him. So...I mean, it doesn't mean we can't be friends. I'm just not really available (to you) now."

"Wow."

"I have friends and stuff. Maybe, I could...well, never mind, what am I saying? You have a ton of friends."

"No I don't!"

"Whatever. You're a hottie and you know it. So, get excited, K? Cause your special girl is just out there wondering where you are. Cause that's what's most important...not getting a specific person, but both people wanting each other...bad. I'll be rooting for you."

"Hmm...thanks. I guess."

"You're totally welcome."

Cin-a-Bear
11-26-2007, 11:11 PM
drink, that is. In his blobs, FH keeps saying how he no longer drinks (or does any of "that stuff") anymore, but in the Van Halen pics on the J&J website (photo #25 to be exact), there he is, blood-shot eyes and all, with a beer in his hand. He just can't seem to keep his "stories" (I mean lies) straight.

BecInCA
11-26-2007, 11:27 PM
Check this out!

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=9610602808

:lmfao:

mamasterls
11-26-2007, 11:30 PM
I'm so glad the site is back up. I missed you guys today!

insightbyjake
11-26-2007, 11:57 PM
Just an open statement not directed to any person in particular....

Being divorced myself and having an Ex-spouse of five years that never lets anything go I found the blob and it's references very irritating. Here's my take on it:

What if FOR EXAMPLE, Eddie Van Halen (or any STAR) had an obsession with their ex-wife and continually bad mouthed her passive aggressively in a diary read by 50+ people. What if that diary was packed full of lies and poor little Wolfie cried because his friends had to read the crap that his father posted about him in an open forum. What if poor little Wolfie had to be so completely embarrassed that his insecure I-will-do-anything-to-get-people-to-notice-me-Father posted an absurd photo of his overweight-less-than-attractive-fat-troll-hairy-body on his diary website for the world to see and had to explain that to his friends. Instead poor little Wolfie would try to make a joke of it and post it on their own site and make it a bigger joke. What if poor little Wolfie had no idea that his Dad's "friend" was really his girlfriend and in less than 2 visits upon meeting this person discovers that she is going to be his new Step Mom, but dear old dad didn't have the decency to tell said child, instead Valerie had to come in and explain the poor decision to said child. What if the STAR always called to cancel his visitation at the last minute because suddenly there was a "meeting at work" that the-father-of-the-year-troll-rockstar couldn't get out of. Then thank God (the rockstar is too busy for church but really wants to attend some day) the real parent could be there to pick the child up from school. What if after 5 years the said Ex-wife was still having to change her email address and cell phone number every few months because the STAR was so completely obsessed with her that he went to every extreme to track down her telephone numbers to harass her with 50+ phone calls daily. What if the Ex-wife had to insist on meeting in a public location like a Von's parking lot to have visitation drop offs because the STAR was so obsessed that he would do drive bys and stalk her at her home and bring the police there for random reasons and pound on the door because he wanted to make a scene and the said child wasn't even comfortable living there because his father was a lunatic stalker. And you're right after 5 years you would think that the Ex-wife wouldn't get a call from her children when she is on her way to the Van Halen concert with her new boyfriend telling her that "My Dad the Rockstar is waiting out in front of Cox Arena for you and he said that you should have packed an extra shirt because he and his girlfriend are going to thrash you!" So how do you think the Ex-wife of 5 years should handle that situation genious? Perhaps another restraining order, drug testing ??? What do professionals recommend. How embarrassing do you think it is for that Ex-wife to attempt to explain complete INSANITY to her children and tell her date that she has a psychotic Ex and he may attempt to assault her on their date?

Well I can only say that anyone who chooses to date/marry such a loser has everything coming to her. It's a match made in heaven! :stupid:

Okay, so now that were done talking about what could be or could've been, in a fantasy-passive-aggressive-world. I would like to say that the VH show was a HORRIBLE waste of money last night. The sound was awful and the show was mediocre at best.

Peace out Homie :fro:


Wow!

STOP!

It's called "external control" and it kills EVERY relationship...

It is the main source of unhappiness: The husband (or, ex-husband) tries to "control" the wife; the wife (or, ex-wife) tries to "control" the husband, and each, unsuccessfully, attempts to escape the control of the other.

It is a psychology in which people who practice it always know what is right for other people.

Is it necessary to declare "FH" is worse than "Amused?"

Is it necessary to stratify people?

FH is a piece of work....and, Amused is angry and frustrated.

Okay, we get it.......How long do we have to read this?

AMUSED, I "get" your point, BUT, I fail to understand why you will not make this man "irrelevant."

He lies, he is dishonest, he is self-absorbed.......He is not a thought worth thinking....If so, why do you rage against the "irrelevant?"

If we all decided, FH is, indeed, "irrelevant," he would be rendered worthless. My vote is we discuss the "toad," BUT refuse to acknowledge the "toad."

"External control" lives in two ways: We are trying to control the "other," or, we are trying to escape the control of the "other."

You can't "control" FH, and FH can't "control" you.

Make him irrelevant!

insightbyjake
11-27-2007, 12:01 AM
P.S.

What do we do if this thread "disappears?" What if "Apex" were terminated? How do we "find" each other?

Is there an alternate site....an alternate "thread?"

I could not log on for 24 hours......what would happen if a more powerful source rescinded the "apex" thread?....


Just wondering....

Amused
11-27-2007, 05:27 AM
Wow!

STOP!

It's called "external control" and it kills EVERY relationship...


AMUSED, I "get" your point, BUT, I fail to understand why you will not make this man "irrelevant."

He lies, he is dishonest, he is self-absorbed.......He is not a thought worth thinking....If so, why do you rage against the "irrelevant?"

"External control" lives in two ways: We are trying to control the "other," or, we are trying to escape the control of the "other."

You can't "control" FH, and FH can't "control" you.

Make him irrelevant!

You're right Jake,

Initially I learned of this site to find out what LBM's addiction was when she moved in with the kids. Then it became a source of information from little things like when his plane was arriving home to when he was on vacation, what danger he was putting my kids in, etc.

He is so outraged about this site that it became a source of power to stop his public abuse, but as you can see that has not happened. In fact it has escalated and now that he is threatening me I will as you say make him irrelevant, again. I won't be posting/lurking/listening/reading about anything having to do with him, so I won't be returning to this site or any site having to do with FH.

I was in a more peaceful place before I found this site and that is where I am returning. Pre-apex FH didn't exist in my world and it was a much more beautiful place without him in it. I knew nothing about him or his antics and I prefer that. From here on out I will let karma takes it course as I have done all along and hear about his life as it crumbles, through the stories the kids tell.

FH, you can't "control me" and that is why you are so outraged and vindictive. I quit... you're not worth the trouble and everyone in San Diego will figure you out on their own, in their own time, this site was merely escalating the inevitable. FH I can hardly wait until your karma card is pulled and you finally get what you deserve.

One day we'll hear about the show being transferred to Calexico or somewhere nice like Yuma and then we'll know that the DCM club members have done their job exposing the lies and my children will be better off when they are not being exploited on a daily basis through a mediocre website with a show and management that cares only about ratings and not about families. Thank God for XM Satellite Radio. Christmas is coming do yourselves a favor and put them in every vehicle you own!

Know that the entire APEX forum has that entire show up in arms and they despise the fact that you see through the show. More times than not your posts have been accurate and there are super sleuths on this site. All the best to you! Happy Holidays!

Goodbye Apex Friends. :wavey2:

EmpressJ
11-27-2007, 06:17 AM
I sure wish the Wilson Family would read this thread! It would save Michelle a lot of heartache down the road.

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 06:39 AM
P.S.

What do we do if this thread "disappears?" What if "Apex" were terminated? How do we "find" each other?

Is there an alternate site....an alternate "thread?"

I could not log on for 24 hours......what would happen if a more powerful source rescinded the "apex" thread?....


Just wondering....

Jake, a bunch of us congregated in the chat room. Who knows how to set up a Yahoo group or Google Group? We can transition on over to there and not worry about the elves blowing our house down?

I too missed you all yesterday :( There was so much Thanksgiving fodder out there and we were rendered mute. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Lovely to see my invisible friends again :) All is nearly right with the world. (breathe in....breathe out)

GirlfromOR
11-27-2007, 06:51 AM
Amused, if you are really leaving, I'll miss you!

BigAl
11-27-2007, 06:59 AM
I felt like I was being censored.

Anywaym

When do you think this shogram/spewgram "Jumped the Shark"??

1. When LBM went off to Rehab and they were not honest with their audience?
2. When LBM returned from Rehab and it was played as if she went to a country club or posh estate, thus no seriousness in what she went for?
3. When FH came out of the "booth" and started taking lead roles in the show?
4. When, due to their massive time off/multiple vacations, when replays were better than the actual live show??

Your thoughts??? There had to be an event when the show started to slide down hard and lose its appeal...

ElizabethAZ
11-27-2007, 07:24 AM
ElizabethAZ- I have to ask - what the heck is under your name in your posts?

It is supposed to be a house (with a tree) to go with the verse, but it has been copied and pasted several times and doesn't look the same in every font. Maybe it is time to clean it up.

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 07:34 AM
I felt like I was being censored.

Anywaym

When do you think this shogram/spewgram "Jumped the Shark"??

1. When LBM went off to Rehab and they were not honest with their audience?
2. When LBM returned from Rehab and it was played as if she went to a country club or posh estate, thus no seriousness in what she went for?
3. When FH came out of the "booth" and started taking lead roles in the show?
4. When, due to their massive time off/multiple vacations, when replays were better than the actual live show??

Your thoughts??? There had to be an event when the show started to slide down hard and lose its appeal...

I think the show jumped the shark when they stopped being clever and started resting on their "laurels" or accomplishments. They haven't just stagnated and stayed in one spot, they have entered a period of backsliding. They are self-centered and self-involved, they appear to have no compassion for anybody other than themselves, and they suck in their attempts to be "funny."

Just my humble opinion.

Amused, I understand where you're coming from. It can't be pleasant focusing on that fat F&*^&K. While I will miss your posts and humor, I understand getting out of the anger and back into your own existence. Good luck with that, the kids are lucky to have you, and if you ever feel the need to vent about his outrageousness, you know you can come here and have support.

Now, move on, young lady. Live your life and brush off the negativity. He's really not worth your time.

ElizabethAZ
11-27-2007, 07:36 AM
Amused, I hope you don't go, but if you do, we understand.

Anyway, I hope you are printing out all his junk to show the judge. May you get sole custody soon. :wavey2:

ElizabethAZ
11-27-2007, 07:37 AM
It can't be pleasant focusing on that fat F&*^&K.

Dreamer, you must watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. You sound just like Susie, LOL! I agree with everything else you said to Amused, well put.

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 08:00 AM
TOMMY'S BLOB: Monday November 26, 2007 3pm
Monday, November 26, 2007 at 6:42pm

Monday November 26, 2007 3pm: Thanks for all the emails and calls on the orbs. What’s cool about it, is that the people that might have an opinion that the orbs are simply lens dust or something, didn’t email me to spoil my feeling that it is my brothers. I guess, it is all about faith. WHY NOT believe that it is something from the heavens or loved ones that have passed on. If there was a place where good spirits and ghosts of my brothers and dad and other relatives that are gone are going to be hanging out, it is my mom’s. In my soul right now, I feel my brothers and everyone are all gathering at my mom’s house to make sure she is okay. I just know it. My family had many things going on when nobody was dead, except my dad. We always had parties and we always had a crisis and we always had love and we always had MY MOM as the main SABLAN. That’s why I feel that they are all gathered at my mom’s house to just hang out and wait it out until we are all together again, just like the old days.

You may be thinking to yourself, why is Tommy talking about all this stuff so much and why is SPIRITS and ORBS on his mind? Well, it’s because it’s been 10 years since Frank died and I am starting to think about my dad and wanting to know what and who he was and all that stuff. My dad died when I was 5.

So, that’s enough of that!

Today, I got home at 10:22am and I went straight to “couch” and took a nap until 1:48pm. That’s almost like an average night’s sleep. I am going to take some soup over to Michelle’s in a little bit. She’s not feeling well today. She has been sick since Thanksgiving. I hope she’s okay.

It was sure good to be back at work today. For me, work is my life. Kids, work, Michelle, food, and my mom are my basic 5 groups to survive in life that I need. If these things are on track, my whole world is okay. J Okay, just kidding about food.

Race for the Cure is Sunday. I hope to see you there. This is a 5K that is usually a week before the 3 day but due to the fires they rescheduled it.

You know? I think I’m caught up with work and bills and stuff, so I’m going to go back to “couch”.

11ListenerNot
11-27-2007, 08:16 AM
Know that the entire APEX forum has that entire show up in arms and they despise the fact that you see through the show. More times than not your posts have been accurate and there are super sleuths on this site. All the best to you! Happy Holidays!
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Amused, if you come back to this site one more time, I know I can speak for many of us and say we will miss you. Everything you said reinforced what we suspected with this lunetic. Things were said prior to you joining up, and they turn out not only to be true, but in some cases even more pathetic. I can totally understand why you choose not to continue on with us, you have to protect yourself. Good luck with everything in your future and happy holidays.

11ListenerNot
11-27-2007, 08:17 AM
Well, fatty wasn't on the show today. I heard LBM say that he has the "flu". When she mentioned this, she kinda laughed. Could it be a major 2 day hangover??

SDReadhead
11-27-2007, 08:34 AM
Amused, if you return to read our goodbyes, let me say I totally understand where you are coming from. I know that most of us do. To us, Tubby is a laughable blob of fat. But he is a true menace in your life and we don't need to have you put your emotions (and safety, it appears) at risk for our entertainment. Be well, Amused. You are right; karma can really suck. But good things are in store for you, girl! Go and live a happy, healthy, Tubby-free life. Many blessings!:wavey2:

SDReadhead
11-27-2007, 08:37 AM
I felt like I was being censored.

Anywaym

When do you think this shogram/spewgram "Jumped the Shark"??

1. When LBM went off to Rehab and they were not honest with their audience?
2. When LBM returned from Rehab and it was played as if she went to a country club or posh estate, thus no seriousness in what she went for?
3. When FH came out of the "booth" and started taking lead roles in the show?
4. When, due to their massive time off/multiple vacations, when replays were better than the actual live show??

Your thoughts??? There had to be an event when the show started to slide down hard and lose its appeal...

I can't point to a specific event or time, but I do know that they jumped way before the switch to the current station because I remember being happy that they were changing because I wondered if the "old" J/J would be back. I hoped that there was some connection with the old station that drained their sense of fun, energy, freshness. Sadly, as we've seen, it had nothing to do with the stat

BecInCA
11-27-2007, 08:53 AM
I suggest that the word of the day be "orb". :wavey2:

Halinn
11-27-2007, 08:53 AM
Amused,

We will miss you! Many of us have been in your situation and taking the high road is the best choice. I moved 150 miles from my ex to protect us. I wish you could have full custody because your kids are being exposed to so much inapropriate behavior. I am sorry to see you go:cry: If you ever need to vent we are here for you!

Halinn #19

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 08:57 AM
Thank you Bec...excellent suggestion.

Our word for the day today is ORB!!

(Wonk...perhaps you can give us some orb graphics...)

OneKidOneDogMom
11-27-2007, 08:59 AM
Jake, a bunch of us congregated in the chat room. Who knows how to set up a Yahoo group or Google Group? We can transition on over to there and not worry about the elves blowing our house down?

A bunch of G|A regulars (not DC thread people) mentioned in another thread yesterday that they have a FaceBook page set up as an alternate to the G|A site for situations just like yesterday...

I know nothing about FaceBook, but could we set up something like that for the DC thread?

Layla
11-27-2007, 09:10 AM
OKODM I saw that too. I've got a Facebook. Easy to set up. Actually sorta fun. Lots of little interaction things you can do with "friends", probably not a bad idea to fill in for GA downtime.

RowdyOne
11-27-2007, 09:33 AM
Amused, add me to the long list of DC members who will miss your presence on this site...but I also understand completely. You have tried unsuccessfully to distance yourself from FH and his craziness; how exhausting that must be. I'm sure reading here just fuels more anger in each of you -- yet it has given you information that you'll need to keep the kids away from him as much as possible. So I hope you do check back now and then even if you don't post.

Take care and stay strong.

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 09:41 AM
Ok, maybe I'm being a little behind, but I couldn't get into this site all day yesterday....

did Amused just say that FH called and threatened her RECENTLY that he and Moochie were going to beat up Amused? Honest to goodness?

If you come back Amused, start recording all the phone calls you get. What a small minded jerk he is. And that's an insult to jerks everywhere.

I don't think APex is going to go away...this thread may cease at some point, then we can just jump back on the old "points" thread, cause Tommy reads that one too, hoping to catch folks getting points from that location.

SDchick
11-27-2007, 09:44 AM
Wow!

STOP!

It's called "external control" and it kills EVERY relationship...

It is the main source of unhappiness: The husband (or, ex-husband) tries to "control" the wife; the wife (or, ex-wife) tries to "control" the husband, and each, unsuccessfully, attempts to escape the control of the other.

It is a psychology in which people who practice it always know what is right for other people.

Is it necessary to declare "FH" is worse than "Amused?"

Is it necessary to stratify people?

FH is a piece of work....and, Amused is angry and frustrated.

Okay, we get it.......How long do we have to read this?

AMUSED, I "get" your point, BUT, I fail to understand why you will not make this man "irrelevant."

He lies, he is dishonest, he is self-absorbed.......He is not a thought worth thinking....If so, why do you rage against the "irrelevant?"

If we all decided, FH is, indeed, "irrelevant," he would be rendered worthless. My vote is we discuss the "toad," BUT refuse to acknowledge the "toad."

"External control" lives in two ways: We are trying to control the "other," or, we are trying to escape the control of the "other."

You can't "control" FH, and FH can't "control" you.

Make him irrelevant!
I know you have probably done the right thing, and that Amused will be in a better state of mind from here on out, but I have to say "boo" to you, for pretty much running Amused out of here. :(

Ever hear of venting? Maybe it wasn't always the healthiest for her, but I'm certain Amused felt better when she was able to vent on here - especially since we all gave our support to her each time she posted.

Maybe I'm in the minority on this one, I know we'll all miss her, but I never would have 'called her out' so to speak, by saying she was no "worse" than FH. That was just mean!

SDReadhead
11-27-2007, 10:05 AM
Before I read the Facebook suggestion I set up a Yahoo group for us. I'm too old to even know about facebook! I am now in the process of reading the directions to see how people can join the group and will post those later. If someone wants to set up Facebook instead, fine by me. I just set up the yahoo group as a place to meet if we ever find our thread gone with the wind. I've got some breakfast dishes to do and then I'll be back with the joining info for the yahoo group. Good way to spend a day off!

insightbyjake
11-27-2007, 10:11 AM
I know you have probably done the right thing, and that Amused will be in a better state of mind from here on out, but I have to say "boo" to you, for pretty much running Amused out of here. :(

Ever hear of venting? Maybe it wasn't always the healthiest for her, but I'm certain Amused felt better when she was able to vent on here - especially since we all gave our support to her each time she posted.

Maybe I'm in the minority on this one, I know we'll all miss her, but I never would have 'called her out' so to speak, by saying she was no "worse" than FH. That was just mean!

Amused wrote this:

"....I was in a more peaceful place before I found this site and that is where I am returning. Pre-apex FH didn't exist in my world and it was a much more beautiful place without him in it."

You say, "I am certain Amused felt better when she was able to vent on here..."

I see a contradiction between what you or other's may be "certain" of and what she wrote early this morning.

The thread is entertainment. Underneath Amused's moniker is a woman who seems to be moving toward a constant state of anger due to a battle over external control. That seemed a bit too "real" to me to simply sit back and continue to be entertained by two people whose lives directly effect children.

I "called out" her anger -- not her. Re-read all her posts. Can you deny the build up of anger and hostility? Perhaps I'm the one in the minority -- I selfishly yelled "Stop" when Amused disappeared and an angry Danele surfaced.

Finally, SDChick, we just disagree on what "mean" is.

Other than ruining a bit of our entertainment, how is it wrong to have Amused admit "joining in" our FH bashing escalated the War of the ex's, and moved her out of a "peaceful" place?

Yesterday's rant wasn't entertaining -- it was too damn real. And it seemed to ME -- and only ME -- it was becoming too painful to witness two adults play out divorce hatred so we can enjoy our thread.

My apologies for interrupting the thread.

imisssandiego
11-27-2007, 10:12 AM
SDChick I agree with you. The whole reason we ALL are here is to vent about the spewgram. I hope that Amused will return.

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 10:18 AM
Amused wrote this:

"....I was in a more peaceful place before I found this site and that is where I am returning. Pre-apex FH didn't exist in my world and it was a much more beautiful place without him in it."

You say, "I am certain Amused felt better when she was able to vent on here..."

I see a contradiction between what you or other's may be "certain" of and what she wrote early this morning.

The thread is entertainment. Underneath Amused's moniker is a woman who seems to be moving toward a constant state of anger due to a battle over external control. That seemed a bit too "real" to me to simply sit back and continue to be entertained by two people whose lives directly effect children.

I "called out" her anger -- not her. Re-read all her posts. Can you deny the build up of anger and hostility? Perhaps I'm the one in the minority -- I selfishly yelled "Stop" when Amused disappeared and an angry Danele surfaced.

Finally, SDChick, we just disagree on what "mean" is.

Other than ruining a bit of our entertainment, how is it wrong to have Amused admit "joining in" our FH bashing escalated the War of the ex's, and moved her out of a "peaceful" place?

Yesterday's rant wasn't entertaining -- it was too damn real. And it seemed to ME -- and only ME -- it was becoming too painful to witness two adults play out divorce hatred so we can enjoy our thread.

My apologies for interrupting the thread.

Jake, I don't have a problem with what you said. It's been obvious the forum was bringing angst and unhappiness to Amused. I will miss her contributions to this forum for the selfish reason that she was able to give us the satisfaction of being right and/or knowing that our posts and opinions are being heard by those we're posting about. However, letting go of her anger and releasing her grip on the "control" will give her freedom to live her life joyfully. It's a good suggestion you gave her and I hope she follows it ... for her sake and for the sake of her kids.

Thankfully, for our entertainment purposes, FH will never be able to release anything and he'll continue to post as Dilby, or whatever moniker he adopts to try to change our opinions of him.

wonkatania
11-27-2007, 10:20 AM
ORBS?

If you listened to the spewgram yesterday morning you heard FH going on and on about an orb that had appeared in some photos he took in his mother’s house over the weekend.

Webster’s Dictionary defines an Orb as a ball: an object with a spherical shape;

Now, I do indeed see an orb in this picture.

Now, look very closely (Hint: it's wearing a blue shirt with a white stripe on the sleeve).

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1227/orbtommybf1.jpg

Layla
11-27-2007, 10:22 AM
Jake, t'wasn't only you who was uncomfortable with it. I certainly don't want to witness it to this extent.

I do not wish for Amused to leave, however, if she feels the thread does more harm than good, so be it. I do hope though that her returning to a state of blindness in regards to FH's shenanigans doesn't allow him to exploit those children more than he does at the moment.

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 10:22 AM
I have to agree with Jake on this one. When it stops becoming entertainment for the 2 directly involved and starts becoming a source of tension, stress, anger, control or anything else negative, that's when it's time to call a truce and step back into "real life".

I think it's incredibly smart of Danell to recognize that this forum, while fun and "Amusing", is a double edged sword and the path that she found herself walking on (apparently) was far more than she bargained for. There are 2 kids involved here...who may well know about this forum and they do not need to see 2 parents implode. One of them needs to be an adult and keep a steady environment for them. That parent, in this case, is Danell. I applaud her, though I will miss her as well.

Not a one of us is walking in her shoes, having to deal with the very real situation that we all mock. It's easy for us because we're removed. She doesn't have that luxury, and she knows far more than we could ever fathom.

No one has used the word of the day :(

wonkatania
11-27-2007, 10:24 AM
BTW

In the orb photo on page 503 of this forum, did you notice the tiny plastic x-mas tree with no ornaments in the background?

I formally submit FH's mother as a candidate for Breaking and Entering X-Mas.

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 10:27 AM
BTW

In the orb photo above, did you notice the tiny plastic x-mas tree with no ornaments in the background?

I formally submit FH's mother as a candidate for Breaking and Entering X-Mas.


Thank you for 1) using the word of the day

2) making me spit out the water in my mouth all over BOTH monitors...LOLOL. Oh, that wasn't supposed to be funny? Oops.

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 10:28 AM
Oh, heck. She threw them (the Xmas ornaments) at Tommy for being such a FH.

Newer Reader
11-27-2007, 10:39 AM
Wow!

STOP!
<snip>
He lies, he is dishonest, he is self-absorbed.......He is not a thought worth thinking....If so, why do you rage against the "irrelevant?"

If we all decided, FH is, indeed, "irrelevant," he would be rendered worthless. My vote is we discuss the "toad," BUT refuse to acknowledge the "toad."

"External control" lives in two ways: We are trying to control the "other," or, we are trying to escape the control of the "other."

You can't "control" FH, and FH can't "control" you.

Make him irrelevant!

My ex-husband is irrelevant. Poof, gone. However, he is not the father of my children and was gone long before they came on the scene, so it was not hard to make him irrelevant, even back in the days where he tried to come back and stir things up.

I can't imagine what it would be like to have an ex like the toad. Amused, if you're listening, I disagree with Jake for the first time ever. When the toad has your kids, he has to be relevant. They should not be on the Internet in the middle of the night; they should not be on the Internet unsupervised, ever. They should not be exposed to threats, or asked to make them. They should not be harassed. They should be appropriately and competently supervised when in public places. They should not be allowed to break the law in their neighborhoods (I live in his neighborhood, and TPing is only o.k. if the family knows about it ahead of time and everyone shows to help clean up the next day. What he did with his kids in our neighborhood was rude and inconsiderate, not to mention a misdemeanor). And of course the list goes on, but the bottom line is, the kids are not safe when they are with him and you must do what you need to do to protect them. I would have a hard time making an ex irrelevant in these circumstances.

Amused, I hope you can get back to your place of peace. I was glad you were here to confirm what many of us either knew or suspected about the toad, but I also had a sense that your involvement here would have repercussions, since you were the only one here who was not anonymous.

Yes, he lies...he is dishonest...he is self-absorbed, but when he has your kids, he is relevant. Stay vigilant for their sake...thank goodness they're 10 and 12 and it's only for a few more years...then, at last, for you, the toad can finally be irrelevant, poof, gone.

We'll miss you. Stay safe. If you need to vent again, please come back.

NR #26

SDReadhead
11-27-2007, 11:03 AM
Hello everyone,
I have the address to join the yahoo group if you want to. As for me, I'll only check the group if this site is down. Am I allowed to post a web address here? I guess I should read the TOS. If not, please forgive me mod! Here is the new yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jjdramathread Just go there and then hit "join this group" -- you can set it up so that your email address and identity are not made public. Let's hope our thread here is up and vibrant forever and that we don't need this back up.

Oh, one more thing - I added a new Yahoo identity to my yahoo profile to reflect my name on this board. That way I will be SDReadHead in both places. Just a thought for anyone who wants to do the same with their yahoo id.

Newer Reader
11-27-2007, 11:18 AM
SDRed...are you approving everyone who joins the group? Thanks for setting it up...NR

mamasterls
11-27-2007, 11:24 AM
Thanks for setting it up!
I was going to join right away, but I'll wait just in case apex goes away. My yahoo username is too close to being able to be used to ID me, and I don't want certain people to have that info. Unless I get around to creating a new yahoo persona, I'll save the link and wait. Just to be safe.

I really appreciate your efforts in making sure we have a place to meet!

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 11:31 AM
Thanks for setting it up!
I was going to join right away, but I'll wait just in case apex goes away. My yahoo username is too close to being able to be used to ID me, and I don't want certain people to have that info. Unless I get around to creating a new yahoo persona, I'll save the link and wait. Just to be safe.

I really appreciate your efforts in making sure we have a place to meet!


Make sure you bookmark the site. If Apex goes away, you won't be able to get in here to get the link :)

mamasterls
11-27-2007, 11:37 AM
Make sure you bookmark the site. If Apex goes away, you won't be able to get in here to get the link :)

Already done! I have the link saved in my yahoo page, just in case.

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 11:44 AM
accck. I can't access from here, will have to try at home this evening....:wavey2:

pax
11-27-2007, 11:47 AM
It won't be the same without Amused.

NewAgeGoddess
11-27-2007, 11:48 AM
Amused wrote this:

"....I was in a more peaceful place before I found this site and that is where I am returning. Pre-apex FH didn't exist in my world and it was a much more beautiful place without him in it."

You say, "I am certain Amused felt better when she was able to vent on here..."

I see a contradiction between what you or other's may be "certain" of and what she wrote early this morning.

The thread is entertainment. Underneath Amused's moniker is a woman who seems to be moving toward a constant state of anger due to a battle over external control. That seemed a bit too "real" to me to simply sit back and continue to be entertained by two people whose lives directly effect children.

I "called out" her anger -- not her. Re-read all her posts. Can you deny the build up of anger and hostility? Perhaps I'm the one in the minority -- I selfishly yelled "Stop" when Amused disappeared and an angry Danele surfaced.

Finally, SDChick, we just disagree on what "mean" is.

Other than ruining a bit of our entertainment, how is it wrong to have Amused admit "joining in" our FH bashing escalated the War of the ex's, and moved her out of a "peaceful" place?

Yesterday's rant wasn't entertaining -- it was too damn real. And it seemed to ME -- and only ME -- it was becoming too painful to witness two adults play out divorce hatred so we can enjoy our thread.

My apologies for interrupting the thread.

I'm on Jake's side here. I don't think things were better for her here. I am so glad my youngest son's father moved to San Jose. Out of sight out of mind!!!!

iamsheens
11-27-2007, 11:53 AM
oh good I can reveal what I discovered looking at the Van Halen Pictures...its not pretty and I'm sad I'm the one who noticed it. But in pic 4 or 5 there is a pic of Mooch and if you look she has a hickey on her breast.....disgusting...

Such class this couple has...or wait maybe its an orb I'm seeing?

Tommy drinks any idiot who looks at those pictures can see he is drunk. And why does he wear the most hideous clothing choices ever?

And I think it will be revealed Mooch and Laura are long lost sisters....

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 11:55 AM
Did anyone else notice that the orb in the picture that Wonk put here...is right over Tubby's mouth? Perhaps one of his brothers is trying to tell him to SHUT UP?? I'm just saying.

BecInCA
11-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Laura's Diary - November 27th, 2007
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 2:04pm

Dear Diary,
I looked at a place in Kensington yesterday, put in an application, got the okay and was told to put in a deposit and get ready to move in Friday. FRIDAY? Uh….not gonna happen. I am not ready. I was hoping to move mid-December, early January, but not this Friday! By the way, that neighborhood is beautiful. Wow. Love it! I think that's where I want to be.
I can't wait to get back home to watch The Hills on DVR. Watched it last night, but I need to see that one again. Spencer's sister, a.k.a. She-Pratt, is TROUBLE! I bet the producers of the show are peeing themselves at this precious morsel of drama. And, Justin-Bobby is the biggest loser in Hollywood. What a douche-bag. I don't use that word lightly, but that guy is a douche-bag big-time. And what-up with that hooded, shawl thing he wore to the club? And the make-out session with the red-head in front of Audrina. Ugh! Loser. Or, am I the loser for getting so into this obviously fabricated show?
Today, I'm going on a date with….Jerry and Delana.
We're going to see that new Coen Brothers movie. Fun!
See you tomorrow, Diary

Holy orb! She really does need to get a life and stop trying to sound like she's from "the hood".

garybear
11-27-2007, 11:58 AM
ORBS?

If you listened to the spewgram yesterday morning you heard FH going on and on about an orb that had appeared in some photos he took in his mother’s house over the weekend.

Webster’s Dictionary defines an Orb as a ball: an object with a spherical shape;

Now, I do indeed see an orb in this picture.

Now, look very closely (Hint: it's wearing a blue shirt with a white stripe on the sleeve).

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1227/orbtommybf1.jpg

It is the same blue shirt he wore at the 3-day, Turkey Shoot, and now Thanksgiving. Does he not own any other clothes or has he not trained his wife-to-be to do his laundry?

BecInCA
11-27-2007, 12:00 PM
FH is an Elf!

Sorry for reposting this, but it's worth it, believe me...(it might take a minute or two to load because this is a popular site this time of year).

Check this out!

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=9610602808

Layla
11-27-2007, 12:01 PM
Laura's Diary - November 27th, 2007
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 2:04pm

Dear Diary,
I looked at a place in Kensington yesterday, put in an application, got the okay and was told to put in a deposit and get ready to move in Friday. FRIDAY? Uh….not gonna happen. I am not ready. I was hoping to move mid-December, early January, but not this Friday! By the way, that neighborhood is beautiful. Wow. Love it! I think that's where I want to be.
I can't wait to get back home to watch The Hills on DVR. Watched it last night, but I need to see that one again. Spencer's sister, a.k.a. She-Pratt, is TROUBLE! I bet the producers of the show are peeing themselves at this precious morsel of drama. And, Justin-Bobby is the biggest loser in Hollywood. What a douche-bag. I don't use that word lightly, but that guy is a douche-bag big-time. And what-up with that hooded, shawl thing he wore to the club? And the make-out session with the red-head in front of Audrina. Ugh! Loser. Or, am I the loser for getting so into this obviously fabricated show?
Today, I'm going on a date with….Jerry and Delana.
We're going to see that new Coen Brothers movie. Fun!
See you tomorrow, Diary

Holy orb! She really does need to get a life and stop trying to sound like she's from "the hood".

Kensington is REALLY too good for her. I feel sorry for everyone in that beautiful neighborhood.

SDchick
11-27-2007, 12:04 PM
Jake, I don't have a problem with what you said. It's been obvious the forum was bringing angst and unhappiness to Amused. I will miss her contributions to this forum for the selfish reason that she was able to give us the satisfaction of being right and/or knowing that our posts and opinions are being heard by those we're posting about. However, letting go of her anger and releasing her grip on the "control" will give her freedom to live her life joyfully. It's a good suggestion you gave her and I hope she follows it ... for her sake and for the sake of her kids.

Thankfully, for our entertainment purposes, FH will never be able to release anything and he'll continue to post as Dilby, or whatever moniker he adopts to try to change our opinions of him.
Okay, I'll admit to being selfish when i said "boo" to Jake. I did feel his words were harsh, but it was tough love, I suppose.

When Amused first appeared, she said she would not be back, she was only here because a friend of hers knew about this sight and referred her to it. She was calm, nice, and wouldn't really say anything bad about FH.

Yes, it's been escalating for some time now. I totally see that. I was just surprised to see someone yell STOP at Amused for what she was doing. But it was needed. I just didn't want her to STOP being on this board, not at all. I'll miss her along with everyone else, but I admit it was definitely for entertainment purposes on catching FH up on all of his lies.

Remember, I'm the sensitive one with thin skin!

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 12:07 PM
:hug:

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 12:13 PM
Laura's Diary - November 27th, 2007
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 2:04pm

Dear Diary,
I looked at a place in Kensington yesterday, put in an application, got the okay and was told to put in a deposit and get ready to move in Friday. FRIDAY? Uh….not gonna happen. I am not ready. I was hoping to move mid-December, early January, but not this Friday! By the way, that neighborhood is beautiful. Wow. Love it! I think that's where I want to be.
I can't wait to get back home to watch The Hills on DVR. Watched it last night, but I need to see that one again. Spencer's sister, a.k.a. She-Pratt, is TROUBLE! I bet the producers of the show are peeing themselves at this precious morsel of drama. And, Justin-Bobby is the biggest loser in Hollywood. What a douche-bag. I don't use that word lightly, but that guy is a douche-bag big-time. And what-up with that hooded, shawl thing he wore to the club? And the make-out session with the red-head in front of Audrina. Ugh! Loser. Or, am I the loser for getting so into this obviously fabricated show?
Today, I'm going on a date with….Jerry and Delana.
We're going to see that new Coen Brothers movie. Fun!
See you tomorrow, Diary

Holy orb! She really does need to get a life and stop trying to sound like she's from "the hood".

Thank GOD we can count on LBM for entertainment and fodder for this forum.

She can't move in this Friday, but certainly has time to go watch "The Hills," so she can feel good about herself? How much time must she spend obsessing on these people before she feels like a contributing member of society?

So the moral of LBM's story today is: It is more important to lie down on the couch and watch a fictional soap opera on television involving immature, self-obsessed characters than it is to secure a home for you and your "precious" babies ... No need to take any concrete steps to be a real mother to those children, because they have Dave, the obvious better half in parenting issues.

God, what an immature loser!

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 12:16 PM
Ugh. I live in the Kensington area. Lucky me. It's PRICEY (I live right outside of it.) I'm sure I'll run into her at our Vons. Sigh.

Why ISN'T she ready on Friday? What did she expect?? Friday is the 1st of the month...when most normal people move. She can go ahead and pay for the month and move in at her leisure, since she has so much stuff to move. She's had how many months to get ready for this??? Here's a hint...don't go looking around if you aren't ready. What was she planning on doing if she had gotten that place in Talmadge?

I think her head must have some orbs in it or something. GOOD GOLLY.

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 12:38 PM
How funny, she's not ready to move Friday...

First of all, she doesn't HAVE to move Friday. She can go ahead and move anytime she wants, they just want their money -- they want her to assume financial responsiblity/just as if she moves in Friday.

Maybe I should call her potential landlord and alert him/her to the fact that she is a BIG DEAL in San Diego, that they are more than lucky that she is even CONSIDERING their property, and they should quit expecting to make a living and just let her live there with no rent payment, as FH has, and look at all she has done for him (nyuk nyuk).

Secondly, wasn't it not too long ago she was whining about not having anything? Now, all of a sudden, she has to make arrangements with some huge transport firm to be able to get on a schedule to deliver all her merchandise? Are we supposed to believe she is going to even carry one item into the doorway?

and oh...if she does move to Kensington...she can hang out with the OTHER "I hope everyone thinks I'm a big deal" folks who frequent the bar at Pancho's.

Daisy CA
11-27-2007, 12:41 PM
oh good I can reveal what I discovered looking at the Van Halen Pictures...its not pretty and I'm sad I'm the one who noticed it. But in pic 4 or 5 there is a pic of Mooch and if you look she has a hickey on her breast.....disgusting...

Such class this couple has...or wait maybe its an orb I'm seeing?

Tommy drinks any idiot who looks at those pictures can see he is drunk. And why does he wear the most hideous clothing choices ever?

And I think it will be revealed Mooch and Laura are long lost sisters....

You're right, I can see that on Mooch, too....yuck. And of course Tubby's drinking. One of the pics shows him with a beer in his hand! Of course, he'll just say he was holding it for someone...

A couple things I've noticed. Tubby's eyes ALWAYS have that kind of scary/creepy look to them. Looks like those guys featured on "48 Hours Mystery". You can tell they're guilty just by their eyes.

Also, I remember a couple years back that Jingle Ball would always sell on on the first day, maybe even in the first couple hours. Now there are still tickets available. Could be because it's on a Sunday or maybe they really are losing their popularity???

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 12:41 PM
It's so unfair that people like Dave and others in the world just don't arrange for LBM to walk into a fully furnished home on the day of her choice. You'd think there would be SOMEONE who knew what loyalty, kindness, responsibility, and doggone it, sheer laziness means to someone like LBM.


"And why does he wear the most hideous clothing choices ever?"

oooh! oooh! Mr. Kotter!!!
I think I know the answer to that....remember, he amd Moochie were going to thrash Amused...probably he planned to change into his usual tuxedo right after the brawl.

SDchick
11-27-2007, 12:43 PM
:hug:
Thanks for the lovin's. :cheers: that put a smile on my face today, as I await more parents to hopefully show for parent conferences!

SDReadhead
11-27-2007, 12:50 PM
SDRed...are you approving everyone who joins the group? Thanks for setting it up...NR

Right now anyone can join, but they'd have to see the link on this thread because it's not listed in the Yahoo directory. So only people on this thread will see it listed. Now, I know that we've had some Dilknuckleheads on this thread, and I guess they will also see the link, but since we don't really "live" on that board, I figure there is little chance that they will invade. If they do, there is a magic moderator button that kicks them off. All I have to do is push it. Don't worry...I'm not a meglamaniac with the button. In fact, I don't even know how to spell meglamaniac. Don't tell Jake I can't spell it.

Off topic -- have a day off work and am roasting a leg of lamb. Whole house smells good! Most of my US friends don't like lamb, but most of us from the "old country" love it. Wish I could make this post a scratch and sniff for you. If I only had some peat to burn in the fireplace and some rain to sprinkle outside the window I'd be set!

OneKidOneDogMom
11-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Also, I remember a couple years back that Jingle Ball would always sell on on the first day, maybe even in the first couple hours. Now there are still tickets available. Could be because it's on a Sunday or maybe they really are losing their popularity???

It used to sell out in hours when they had it at a small venue with GOOD artists (and lots of them!)

I bought tickets (4) last year - paid a fortune for good seats. Could not get anyone to go with me and ended up eating the cost of 2 tickets...

They should move it back to a smaller arena, get back to the old vibe.

D'oh. What was I thinking - this is J&J that I'm talking about. Sigh.

wonkatania
11-27-2007, 01:02 PM
Goodbye & Happy Holidays!!!

califbrat
11-27-2007, 01:05 PM
Right now anyone can join, but they'd have to see the link on this thread because it's not listed in the Yahoo directory. So only people on this thread will see it listed. Now, I know that we've had some Dilknuckleheads on this thread, and I guess they will also see the link, but since we don't really "live" on that board, I figure there is little chance that they will invade. If they do, there is a magic moderator button that kicks them off. All I have to do is push it. Don't worry...I'm not a meglamaniac with the button. In fact, I don't even know how to spell meglamaniac. Don't tell Jake I can't spell it.

Off topic -- have a day off work and am roasting a leg of lamb. Whole house smells good! Most of my US friends don't like lamb, but most of us from the "old country" love it. Wish I could make this post a scratch and sniff for you. If I only had some peat to burn in the fireplace and some rain to sprinkle outside the window I'd be set!

Thanks SD for the new board! already registered there but had to use a alternate of my name here... califbrat had to add sd after so if you see me..califbratsd..thats me baby! oh and not a big deal at all.. maybe a mini one today as I am putting up the TREE!! and it will have ornaments on it! FH!

Have a awesome rest of the day my friends!

RowdyOne
11-27-2007, 01:10 PM
Goodbye & Happy Holidays!!!
Does this mean YOU are leaving until after December (or forever?), or are you saying farewell to Amused?

SDchick
11-27-2007, 01:10 PM
yay I joined just now! I couldn't figure out how to make myself "SDchick" though, so it just reads me as sandbrian...any help on that would be great. :)

I actually have a totally off-topic question for everyone. Waaay back a few months ago, someone was able to look up LBM's divorce attorney, and saw what a terrible rep. he had. They also saw Davecaine's and saw he was top-notch excellent.

My friend is going through a retched time right now, and after a year of b.s., has finally decided to get himself a lawyer. I want to help him out, though, because 1. he asked me to, and 2.He got the name of the lawyer out of the yellow pages. They claim to specialize in helping out "Dads".

If anyone recalls these details on all of that about looking up LBM's lawyer, etc... I'd love to hear from you!!! My friend isn't rich, but I think he should spend his hard earned money on a competent lawyer with a good track record.

califbrat
11-27-2007, 01:13 PM
yay I joined just now! I couldn't figure out how to make myself "SDchick" though, so it just reads me as sandbrian...any help on that would be great. :)

I actually have a totally off-topic question for everyone. Waaay back a few months ago, someone was able to look up LBM's divorce attorney, and saw what a terrible rep. he had. They also saw Davecaine's and saw he was top-notch excellent.

My friend is going through a retched time right now, and after a year of b.s., has finally decided to get himself a lawyer. I want to help him out, though, because 1. he asked me to, and 2.He got the name of the lawyer out of the yellow pages. They claim to specialize in helping out "Dads".

If anyone recalls these details on all of that about looking up LBM's lawyer, etc... I'd love to hear from you!!! My friend isn't rich, but I think he should spend his hard earned money on a competent lawyer with a good track record.

I knew I had this old link saved.. the court date was delayed but it has the names of both lawyers.. hope this helps!


DOMESTIC CALENDAR For Tuesday, 23 OCT 2007

09:00AM D503974 LONG OSC

CAIN, DAVID vs CAIN, LAURA

CAIN, DAVID (P) COLEMAN, PHILIPPE
CAIN, LAURA (D) FRITZ, JEFFREY C.

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 01:14 PM
Wonk?? Goodbye and happy holidays????????

What's going to happen with Mildred and Frank? You can't leave us mid story like that.

11th Reader
11-27-2007, 01:18 PM
Wonk? Are you leaving us too?

What's happening to our DC family? First Amused, now Wonk? I can't take this anymore! *insert LBM whining* I'll go to rehab if you want, Wonk, please...don't leave us...I'm going to go through picture withdrawals!

RowdyOne
11-27-2007, 01:23 PM
yay I joined just now! I couldn't figure out how to make myself "SDchick" though, so it just reads me as sandbrian...any help on that would be great. :)
I had trouble joining with "RowdyOne" and about 30 other identities I tried to create --Yahoo kept saying each one was already taken. Hahaha, even "msrvijt" was in use! So finally adding sd to rowdyone went through. Go figure.

So if this site goes down, we can go there even if our identities are changed. Thanks Readhead...!

:cheers:

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 01:32 PM
SDChick...Amused used Fritz (LBM's lawyer). She speculated (maybe humorously) that FH recommended Fritz to LBM because he did such a good job of taking FH to the cleaners for Amused.

I don't know if I would go to one of those "for the guys" kinda law firms...is there any way they could do this amicably or at least with mediation so the $$ just doesn't end up with the lawyers?

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Should we all issue some kind of dramatic goodbye, then return right away, so Amused doesn't feel pressured into staying away?

debbiegrrrl
11-27-2007, 01:43 PM
oh good I can reveal what I discovered looking at the Van Halen Pictures...its not pretty and I'm sad I'm the one who noticed it. But in pic 4 or 5 there is a pic of Mooch and if you look she has a hickey on her breast.....disgusting...

Such class this couple has...or wait maybe its an orb I'm seeing?

Tommy drinks any idiot who looks at those pictures can see he is drunk. And why does he wear the most hideous clothing choices ever?

And I think it will be revealed Mooch and Laura are long lost sisters....

Hey, anyone remembr several years ago when Laura revealed that her dad, in his youth, had fathered a daughter before her and she was going to meet her? Hmmmm...could it be? I mean they look sooo much alike.

ElizabethAZ
11-27-2007, 02:00 PM
12 is the one where she looks just like Laura. But Laura is 40 or close to it, so I doubt Moochie could be older than LBM.

ETA--you may also notice that FH doesn't know how to set up his camera...all the pictures say 11/12/2007.

zodiac
11-27-2007, 02:07 PM
Hi friends! I've been off the thread for over a week with family in town, so I'm just sitting down to catch up. I checked in a few times to see if I missed anything good, but things were looking pretty calm during the turkey holiday.
Sorry to see Amused go, but maybe she'll return again.
I'm all signed up for the yahoo dealio in case this site goes away. I'm zodic.smile.
Have a great day and I hope you don't run into any ORBS! :hihi:

PRINTER
11-27-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm bummed to see Amused leave but I also support her decision. For me, I appreciated how candid she was in unmasking FH and all his lies. Thanks again and bless you!
About LBM...when I read her diary from Monday about how she was crying her eyes out I felt really bad. I went back and found her diary entries from the days right around buying the house. She and Dave were so excited and they had such beautiful dreams. It made me sad. But the thing I don't think Laura GETS is that Dave wanted a WIFE and A MOTHER TO HIS CHILDREN...not a "kind of a big deal". I still maintain that if Laura would have come back and changed 180 degrees that there might have been a chance with DC. It might have even meant quitting her job and letting go of all the "adulation" she seems to be addicted to. If she would have stopped chasing the attention (Dancing with the SD stars, Tummy-tube, etc.) I think she might have had a chance. But I'm SURE Tummy influenced her and told her that she didn't need to give up the show and all that that implies. So, she jumped right back in, "acting the fool" and showing DC and the rest of San Diego what a truly pathetic attention whore she is. I just wish she'd FINALLY take responsibility and say, "Dave, I SCREWED UP. IT'S ALL MY FAULT. I WILL CHANGE" but I know that will never happen so if she loses her house and her family it's the price she has paid for being "kind of a big deal". Sad...

SDchick
11-27-2007, 02:36 PM
SDChick...Amused used Fritz (LBM's lawyer). She speculated (maybe humorously) that FH recommended Fritz to LBM because he did such a good job of taking FH to the cleaners for Amused.

I don't know if I would go to one of those "for the guys" kinda law firms...is there any way they could do this amicably or at least with mediation so the $$ just doesn't end up with the lawyers?
Not to give away too much info (who knows if anyone the wife knows is on here!)but basically a relative of hers is a lawyer. Not a family divorce attny, but a lawyer just the same. He has helped them tremendously, and they both have benefitted from his help and advice.

Now a year later, my friend's almost-ex is starting to demand more money, complaining about how she can't afford anything (HELLO new boobs, how'd you afford THEM???) and said she knows she can get about $500 more a month from him if she really tried.

He has the kids 4 nights a week, she has them 5 days a week, and it sounds insane "mathematically" but that's how it is on paper. Anyway, i guess the courts look at days instead of nights in terms of who has more custody?

I don't know, but it's getting messy, they've tried to be fair and amicable, but it's not turning out that way after all.

I will tell him about the 'stay away' from those kind of 'for the guys' law firms; who knows if they're really legit?

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 02:45 PM
yay I joined just now! I couldn't figure out how to make myself "SDchick" though, so it just reads me as sandbrian...any help on that would be great. :)

I actually have a totally off-topic question for everyone. Waaay back a few months ago, someone was able to look up LBM's divorce attorney, and saw what a terrible rep. he had. They also saw Davecaine's and saw he was top-notch excellent.

My friend is going through a retched time right now, and after a year of b.s., has finally decided to get himself a lawyer. I want to help him out, though, because 1. he asked me to, and 2.He got the name of the lawyer out of the yellow pages. They claim to specialize in helping out "Dads".

If anyone recalls these details on all of that about looking up LBM's lawyer, etc... I'd love to hear from you!!! My friend isn't rich, but I think he should spend his hard earned money on a competent lawyer with a good track record.

You can look on the State of California Bar Association at http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_home.jsp. Click on Attorney Search and then Attorney/Member Search, then enter the guy's name. You can check how long he's been licensed and whether there have been any periods of non-licensure or any public reprovals (for bad things done).

Also, you can google him. I got some info on my guy's ex's lawyer and he turned out to be a real dilweed.

Good luck. Nice of you to help your friend.

SDchick
11-27-2007, 02:48 PM
You can look on the State of California Bar Association at http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_home.jsp. Click on Attorney Search and then Attorney/Member Search, then enter the guy's name. You can check how long he's been licensed and whether there have been any periods of non-licensure or any public reprovals (for bad things done).

Also, you can google him. I got some info on my guy's ex's lawyer and he turned out to be a real dilweed.

Good luck. Nice of you to help your friend.
Thanks to both of you. This should help him out!

Elton
11-27-2007, 03:36 PM
Thank God for XM Satellite Radio. Christmas is coming do yourselves a favor and put them in every vehicle you own!

Well, geez, I understand her anger but it's not like ALL non-subscription radio is bad just because J&J is. I think we've all figured out how to turn the dial.

Jake, it's difficult to make someone "irrelevant" who is in your face every day through your innocent children. Why do you always have to give such strident "advice"? I guess Amused understood your intention to be nice but it kind of ticked me off.

I think Amused is definitely doing the right thing not participating here. As I told her privately and on this site a few weeks ago, I didn't think posting on here was healthy for her and especially not for the kids (or their friends), who can access this just as easily as we can. I'm glad she came to that realization for herself.

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 03:49 PM
Well, geez, I understand her anger but it's not like ALL non-subscription radio is bad just because J&J is. I think we've all figured out how to turn the dial.

Jake, it's difficult to make someone "irrelevant" who is in your face every day through your innocent children. Why do you always have to give such strident "advice"? I guess Amused understood your intention to be nice but it kind of ticked me off.

I think Amused is definitely doing the right thing not participating here. As I told her privately and on this site a few weeks ago, I didn't think posting on here was healthy for her and especially not for the kids (or their friends), who can access this just as easily as we can. I'm glad she came to that realization for herself.

Don't get ticked off, Elton. Take it for what it is. Jake gave Amused some advice. Amused sounds like she was getting there, anyway. I didn't hear any offense in her tone. What Jake said is salient and sound advice.

Even though he ignored my brilliant attempt to out-hyphenate him (he must be threatened!:) ), I respect Jake's opinion and willingness to step out on a limb and put Amused's welfare and that of her children ahead of our desire for entertainment and "inside info" on the knuckleheads on the J&J Chaotic-Crisis-Conglomerate.

Elton
11-27-2007, 03:57 PM
I don't think Jake told her to stop posting. He just said to make FH "irrelevant." He said it is OK to "discuss" FH but not acknowledge FH. I'm not sure how that works, to be honest. How can you discuss someone without acknowledging him? Aren't you acknowledging the person simply by discussing him?

How do you make someone irrelevant who is the father of your under-18 children and sees them on a regular basis? (The answer to that one might be worth a million bucks, by the way, to all the divorced parents out there who have to deal with crappy exes!)

I'm confused.

Layla
11-27-2007, 04:01 PM
How do you make someone irrelevant who is the father of your under-18 children and sees them on a regular basis?

I do it. I've done it for 11 yrs. My ex is irrelevant to me. Nothing he does or says to me or about me matters. The only behaviour that matters is that which will affect our son. He may try to "take jabs" at me, but I do not let them touch me in any way. I can talk about him, and acknowledge his existance, but it still does not affect my every day life, my personal realtionships with other people, or my conduct.

blondmom
11-27-2007, 04:12 PM
I liked Amused and will miss her. That man is no good.

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 04:15 PM
I liked Amused and will miss her. That man is no good.

I agree, blondmom. He repulses me.

blondmom
11-27-2007, 04:21 PM
i went back to his blog to read what he had written (quoted here on an earlier page) about Van Halen and the ex wife...I think he may have changed his blog. I can't find that written on the website.

am I blind?

maybe they have made an agreement, that would be nice

blondmom
11-27-2007, 04:25 PM
Laura, please take the home in Kensington..who cares if you pay rent for an extra couple of weeks. Get away from Tommy's home, find a nice place to spend the holidays with your children.

You are not in a good situation, that man is toxic. Put your life in order.

OK, I am done.

11ListenerNot
11-27-2007, 04:32 PM
i went back to his blog to read what he had written (quoted here on an earlier page) about Van Halen and the ex wife...I think he may have changed his blog. I can't find that written on the website.
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I went back and looked, and the Van Halen stuff with the ex is gone! Unless I"m crazy and missed it on another blob!

Wabbitsd
11-27-2007, 04:36 PM
I kinda understand the concept of making the ex irrelevant...I tend to be amused by mine, our paths are so very different now. I think the sting of betrayal is the hardest to get over, and the outright baldfaced lies, but once you know the person is like that, and you just don't figure anything is truth when it comes out of your mouth, it's sure a lot easier.

I've been through the lying about airport arrival times/work hours, excuses for not being there so many times, I wouldn't even let that faze me. I'm lucky to have full custody, I make all the decisions, and I just work around him so my daughter doesn't necessarily know the full depth of his perpetual adolescence. She knows some, but not the whole truth. I know that my decisions, though, affect my daughter, and that is sort of the "King Solomon" that rules what I do, and how I react to his shenanigans.

And there are good things about him, too. He's still her father, I picked him, and she deserves only the best. And the hardest part may be in allowing that part to be good for your kids...the personal betrayal is hard to get past, but is the most irrelevant thing, if you get down to brass tacks.

ARe you guys (blondmom) looking at Tommy's blog? Do you mean to look at Amused post about the situation?

iamsheens
11-27-2007, 04:38 PM
i went back to his blog to read what he had written (quoted here on an earlier page) about Van Halen and the ex wife...I think he may have changed his blog. I can't find that written on the website.
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I went back and looked, and the Van Halen stuff with the ex is gone! Unless I"m crazy and missed it on another blob!


Of course its gone. He probably got lots of bad emails from what he wrote. Either that or maybe he wrote that without mooch seeing and maybe she made him go back an re-edit it....maybe the orbs are in the way...who knows?

blondmom
11-27-2007, 04:44 PM
i hope his girlfriend is taking notes on this situation, that guy is a scum

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 04:55 PM
It's in Trixie's post (post #15026). He can delete it off the radio station's website, but we all know he said it and it was a viscious dig at Amused. What an A@#@#$Hole!!!

insightbyjake
11-27-2007, 05:06 PM
I don't think Jake told her to stop posting. He just said to make FH "irrelevant." He said it is OK to "discuss" FH but not acknowledge FH. I'm not sure how that works, to be honest. How can you discuss someone without acknowledging him? Aren't you acknowledging the person simply by discussing him?

How do you make someone irrelevant who is the father of your under-18 children and sees them on a regular basis? (The answer to that one might be worth a million bucks, by the way, to all the divorced parents out there who have to deal with crappy exes!)

I'm confused.

First, please forgive me if I lapse into "strident" tones. It is not intentional. I tend toward intense thought which is mistaken for intense emotion.

How do you make someone irrelevant? You practice new responses to their efforts to "control" your emotions and behavior.

You accept the fact that between birth and death are unending "choices" of behavior. We choose to react, we choose to anger, we choose to blame, we choose to criticize.....

I make you irrelevant when I decide I will not allow you to make me want to react, anger, blame and criticize.

Instead of "Don't blame me! It's not my fault!!" You learn, "I'm sorry you feel upset. I hope you feel better later....I have to hang up now."

Instead of "Why do you constantly cancel at the last minute!! Why are you so rude to your kids!?" You learn, "I'm sorry the kids won't have time with their father [NOT with "you"]. We'll talk later."

He calls you 60 times a day? You let 59 go unanswered and say, "Tommy, if I have the kids, I'd appreciate not having my cellphone message center filled up. Even so, I'm not answering my phone when the kids are with me until it's transfer time. We'll talk later, goodbye."

Basically, I remove the term "you" from as much of my conversation with the kid's dad as possible. I replace my personal reactions with "we," "the kids, " and "I."

"You" -- the ex, that is -- no longer matters. He is irrelevant because I will try as hard as possible to never allow him to influence my behavior choices.

AND, most importantly, I will own my actions. No one "makes" me yell and scream, they are mine, they are based upon my choices, are internal and can only change AFTER my thoughts change.

If I can control my thoughts and actions -- my "feelings" and "reactions" will change. My antagonist, whom I see as an annoying, thick fog, burns away as time goes by. And I am in the "peaceful place" to which Amused referred.

GirlfromOR
11-27-2007, 05:14 PM
Yep, it is definitely gone. At least we have it here for posterity!

On a different note, I've found out that I'm expecting a baby girl! We are so thrilled that she is healthy and seemingly very fiesty. YAY! Sorry, just had to share! :)

Elton
11-27-2007, 05:16 PM
Laura, please take the home in Kensington..who cares if you pay rent for an extra couple of weeks. Get away from Tommy's home, find a nice place to spend the holidays with your children. You are not in a good situation, that man is toxic. Put your life in order.

Amen to that. I even emailed her (nicely) and said I thought she would enjoy that family-oriented neighborhood (she didn't respond, of course). Although to be honest I'm not sure it's PB enough for her since she thinks she's still 25 and not a few months from 40. Maybe she will make a decision that's about her kids and not her for once?!?

The good news: I live near there so I might have LBM sightings to report (there ARE lots of bars on Adams Ave!). Sorry, that was mean. But true? :)

Jake, thanks for your explanation. I see what you're saying. I'm sorry if I read your OP as strident but I the question the effectiveness of people offering simplistic solutions to deep, mired problems. I see that's not what you meant now.

iamsheens
11-27-2007, 05:23 PM
If FH and all the J & J crew know of this site, does that mean that mooch knows about our site too? I guess if I had a way to know if my fiance had been arrested for domestic abuse in the past and was threatening his ex wife while he is with me well I'd question the relationship, you know?

I dont know why any individual would put their life in danger none-the-less their kids. Tommy sounds like a bubble waiting to burst at any moment. When he does burst I don't see anything good coming of it.

He can pretend to be this great person in his blogs and on the radio but those closest to him know differently....why else would his own sister not talk to him? Why would his kids know he is crazy and to not believe anything he says? Someday it will all come back to haunt him.

His kids will grow up resenting him for his stupid antics...here is some tips that I've learned growing up with a father similar to Tommy (although not as bad) and Tommy since you read here perhaps you need to LISTEN up because if you don't listen now well your precious children will end up resenting you when they are adults.

1. Give them attention and don't try to win their affection with expensive trips or gifts...all it means is that they will ONLY turn to you for money.

2. Stop exploiting them. Its hard being a teenager as it is and all you are doing is making them feel even less secure about who they are.

3. Stop drinking, lying, and trying to be a pal then a parent.

(Although in my situation my dad wasn't around and then when he tried to discpline me for getting C's on my report card it would piss me off because I would think "who are you to try and lecture/punish me about my grades?") But I think the difference is that my dad never tried to be my pal he would try to be a parent and that would piss me off getting in trouble twice for the stuff I did even though my dad was never present when I was "bad".

I really don't think tommy can have a healthy relationship with his kids because like my dad he puts himself first. Once his kids catch on to that they will loose the respect they have for him. Once I caught on to the fact my dad's job was more important than seeing my brother and I on the weekends or attending events in our life well I lost respect. Kids should always come first and the minute the kid doesn't feel like they are priority they will be hurt and grow to be angry.

I mean I am 24 and I still deal with this issue with my dad making me no priority in his life. I have to go through his wife to have any contact through him, I dont know if he will show up to my graduation, and I haven't talked to him in March because he let me down for the millionth time when he didn't come through on another broken promise.

I would hate to have any other child/adult to go through the same issues I've gone through in life.

I don't think Tommy will ever be able to have a relationship wth his kids till he stops going public with his life. But yeah my take on it all...sorry for the book....haha

iamsheens
11-27-2007, 05:37 PM
Yep, it is definitely gone. At least we have it here for posterity!

On a different note, I've found out that I'm expecting a baby girl! We are so thrilled that she is healthy and seemingly very fiesty. YAY! Sorry, just had to share! :)

CONGRATS!!!!!

How far along are you? Have you thought about names?

shello
11-27-2007, 05:38 PM
Yep, it is definitely gone. At least we have it here for posterity!

On a different note, I've found out that I'm expecting a baby girl! We are so thrilled that she is healthy and seemingly very fiesty. YAY! Sorry, just had to share! :)

Congrats.....this is great news! Is this your first child or? (Sorry if you had told us before but I don't remmeber too many personal details about folk here)

OneKidOneDogMom
11-27-2007, 05:52 PM
I've been through the lying about airport arrival times/work hours, excuses for not being there so many times...

And there are good things about him, too. He's still her father, I picked him, and she deserves only the best. And the hardest part may be in allowing that part to be good for your kids...the personal betrayal is hard to get past, but is the most irrelevant thing, if you get down to brass tacks.

Oh, I don't think I could have said it any better. I made the decision to marry my ex, to have a child with him - that's my bad. I *do* have to make sure that my son knows only LOVE from his parents - in whatever way we can give it. My kind of love is the true parenting kind - my ex is the "good time Dad". The only important thing is that my son grows up to know he's loved!

OneKidOneDogMom
11-27-2007, 06:00 PM
On a different note, I've found out that I'm expecting a baby girl! We are so thrilled that she is healthy and seemingly very fiesty. YAY! Sorry, just had to share! :)

Yeah for BabyGirlfromOR! Please share more details - babies are so much fun!!!

Congrats!

Trixie
11-27-2007, 06:13 PM
12 is the one where she looks just like Laura. But Laura is 40 or close to it, so I doubt Moochie could be older than LBM.

ETA--you may also notice that FH doesn't know how to set up his camera...all the pictures say 11/12/2007.

Thank you! I noticed this when I looked at the pics yesterday (the wrong date thing) and wasn't able to log back in yesterday after my last post. You can also turn the date stamp off, if you like. Idjit! that he is.

I joined the yahoo thing, that's all new to me. I did claim trixie.dc16 for my name and drama club number. That might help a few of us who don't have any yahoo to start with, like myself. I did try to add Orb into my name, but then I thought not.

I listened to the slowgram a bit this morning, Jef returned from his trip. XXXL was on some 'trip' of his own. I'd like to say that XXXL is maybe sad that LBM is going to be moving out real soon. Maybe he went on a bender. Maybe his dealings with Amused have caused him to bend? Bend until you break!

pastherprime
11-27-2007, 06:20 PM
I'm bummed to see Amused leave but I also support her decision. For me, I appreciated how candid she was in unmasking FH and all his lies. Thanks again and bless you!
About LBM...when I read her diary from Monday about how she was crying her eyes out I felt really bad. I went back and found her diary entries from the days right around buying the house. She and Dave were so excited and they had such beautiful dreams. It made me sad. But the thing I don't think Laura GETS is that Dave wanted a WIFE and A MOTHER TO HIS CHILDREN...not a "kind of a big deal". I still maintain that if Laura would have come back and changed 180 degrees that there might have been a chance with DC. It might have even meant quitting her job and letting go of all the "adulation" she seems to be addicted to. If she would have stopped chasing the attention (Dancing with the SD stars, Tummy-tube, etc.) I think she might have had a chance. But I'm SURE Tummy influenced her and told her that she didn't need to give up the show and all that that implies. So, she jumped right back in, "acting the fool" and showing DC and the rest of San Diego what a truly pathetic attention whore she is. I just wish she'd FINALLY take responsibility and say, "Dave, I SCREWED UP. IT'S ALL MY FAULT. I WILL CHANGE" but I know that will never happen so if she loses her house and her family it's the price she has paid for being "kind of a big deal". Sad...

Couldn't agree with you more.

shello
11-27-2007, 06:23 PM
[QUOTE=Trixie] I listened to the slowgram a bit this morning, Jef returned from his trip. XXXL was on some 'trip' of his own. QUOTE]

Does this mean that FH was gone today and yesterday from the showgram? I could be wrong but yesterday he was gone as well according to our DC board. What is up with that? Trouble in Paradise?!?!

ca_girl
11-27-2007, 06:27 PM
I also joined the Yahoo group - under ca_girl33.

Amused - you'll be missed, but I completely understand why you are "leaving". I found that separating myself from my abusive ex helped me to center myself & remember what was important. FOr me, it was only me, but for you, it's not only you, but your kids. I'm sure you will keep them on the right path & I wish you all the best in lofe & love!

Anyone else notice the # of dashes Whora used in her last diary? I found it quite funny.

I also think the ORB was trying to shut FH up, by being over his mouth!

Trixie
11-27-2007, 06:28 PM
It's in Trixie's post (post #15026). He can delete it off the radio station's website, but we all know he said it and it was a viscious dig at Amused. What an A@#@#$Hole!!!


And I will not edit that post to make it like the one XXXL posted.

That's why we need to keep an assigned watch on when he posts a new blab and capture it here, forevah! MWAH-HA-HA-HA!

although, I can admit that it would have been no tough tast to edit his blab within my original post before I posted the first time. But why would I think of doing that? He gives us plenty of stuff in the original blab.

I'll use the word of the day now. Orb is the code word for when XXXL mentions his brothers. Orb is for BRO, and Orbs represents his BROS. orb...>>>...bro...........orbs..>>>>..bros

I am a great Boggle player.

Trixie
11-27-2007, 06:30 PM
[QUOTE=Trixie] I listened to the slowgram a bit this morning, Jef returned from his trip. XXXL was on some 'trip' of his own. QUOTE]

Does this mean that FH was gone today and yesterday from the showgram? I could be wrong but yesterday he was gone as well according to our DC board. What is up with that? Trouble in Paradise?!?!
Tommy is sick today. I'll fetch that blog if it hasn't been edited...............

Trixie
11-27-2007, 06:32 PM
Tuesday November 27, 2007 5am
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 11:12am

Tuesday November 27, 2007 5am: Out sick this morning. I’ll talk to you soon.



Tuesday November 27, 2007 5:30pm
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 8:19pm

Tuesday November 27, 2007 5:30pm: So, it’s 9am and I answer the door and it’s a nurse sent by Jeff and Jer to see how I’m doing. That’s funny! Luckily, she was nice and didn’t tie me up or anything. Everyone around me seems to be sick, but good sleep and some good medicine and a good hug from people I love has made feel a lot better and will be back to work tomorrow.

Jenny McCarthy: What a nice woman. She’s coming in studio soon to talk about autism. I was on the phone with her for a few minutes yesterday and her people today and she wants so much to talk about this with our listeners.

To parents with children with autism or any disability, you are not alone and there are people and services and LOVE out there to take care of all you need. I will never forget the kid with autism who made all those baskets in that basketball game on the east coast. I believe Magic Johnson is producing a movie about it.

So, mark this date on your calendar: Monday January 14th for Jenny McCarthy on Jeff and Jer!

I’m close to finding letters for Breaking and Entering. This is a thing we do on the air and I think it’s the 10th one. It’s where we gather all my friends OLD SCHOOL AND NEW SCHOOL friends and we come together to get toys for a few families that need help. I’m close to finding a family to do on the air.

MY MOM: My mom is feeling so much better and sounding so much better. She has DEBBIE AND MARLA and MY SISTER ROSE there all the time and those 3 have made my mom so much better and she is yelling at me all the time, just like the good ol days. She calls me every morning on my cell phone when she wakes up. She wasn’t doing that for a few years, but now she’s back to calling me to say GOOD MORNING BOY and back to listening to the radio. I’m so happy. My mom is still weak, but she sounds as strong as can be and is talking so much better. GOD BLESS MY MOM. I love the fact that Michelle and my sister Rose are becoming friends. I never had that. I love that Michelle respects my mom and goes down to Chula Vista with me.

Tomorrow I see the kids! Man, you should see their Christmas list. But, BEFORE Christmas, my little girl becomes a teenager. Now, that’s a trip. 13 years old. I am so proud of my daughter. I am also so proud of Tony Hawk Jr. OR SHOULD I SAY SHECKLER JUNIOR. Eddie can’t stop skateboarding and his love for the skateboard is deep and I hope he continues to have fun and maybe JUST MAYBE he will live out his dreams to being a skateboard pro.

I just wanted to say HELLO and GOOD NIGHT and see you all tomorrow.

OneKidOneDogMom
11-27-2007, 06:32 PM
Hello everyone,
I have the address to join the yahoo group if you want to. As for me, I'll only check the group if this site is down. Am I allowed to post a web address here? I guess I should read the TOS. If not, please forgive me mod! Here is the new yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jjdramathread Just go there and then hit "join this group" -- you can set it up so that your email address and identity are not made public. Let's hope our thread here is up and vibrant forever and that we don't need this back up.

Oh, one more thing - I added a new Yahoo identity to my yahoo profile to reflect my name on this board. That way I will be SDReadHead in both places. Just a thought for anyone who wants to do the same with their yahoo id.


I just joined up - I can't access this at work (dang surf controls) but it will be good to have another place to meet if/when G|A goes down again....

Don't forget to bookmark the site!

OneKidOneDogMom
11-27-2007, 06:41 PM
I love that Michelle respects my mom and goes down to Chula Vista with me.

Another veiled jab at Amused since she didn't want anything to do with Rosa?


Tommy sounds like a bubble waiting to burst at any moment. When he does burst I don't see anything good coming of it.

When I read this I didn't picture XXXL so much as a bubble but as a big pimple - ewwwwwwwwwww. But so appropriate!

Sorry for the visual.

ElizabethAZ
11-27-2007, 06:46 PM
My mom doesn't call me every morning. I thought *I* was a little old for that...not that she EVER called me every day. Anyone else?

LisaP
11-27-2007, 06:47 PM
Goodbye & Happy Holidays!!!


from FH's blob - ... HELLO and GOOD NIGHT ...[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]


Original in the true FH form.


from FH's blob - I love that Michelle respects my mom and goes down to Chula Vista with me.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]


FH - Are you trying to explain why your truck was not at your mom's between 11AM and 4PM on Thanksgiving?

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 06:55 PM
My mom doesn't call me every morning. I thought *I* was a little old for that...not that she EVER called me every day. Anyone else?

I talk to my Mom every day, usually a few times, but that's by choice...we're very close. We have lots of gossip to catch up on and stuff!

Has anyone else noticed how every single post from Tubby about his Mom says exactly the same thing? She's SO MUCH stronger sounding now. She's SO MUCH better now. She's come SO FAR... blah blah. Tommy, face it. Your Mom is very frail, very ill and in all likelihood, not going to live a whole lot longer. That is tremendously sad, but the longer you pretend it isn't happening, the harder it is going to be. Stop putting that poor woman through your own mind games and let her age and die gracefully.

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 07:00 PM
:neartears



:cry:

Jammie J.
11-27-2007, 07:05 PM
Tuesday November 27, 2007 5am
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 11:12am

Tuesday November 27, 2007 5:30pm
Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 8:19pm

Tuesday November 27, 2007 5:30pm: So, it’s 9am and I answer the door and it’s a nurse sent by Jeff and Jer to see how I’m doing. That’s funny! Luckily, she was nice and didn’t tie me up or anything. Everyone around me seems to be sick, but good sleep and some good medicine and a good hug from people I love has made feel a lot better and will be back to work tomorrow.

(snip of blah blah blah)
Based on past reports, I was glad that he didn't offer her his willie for a BJ. Just sayin'. Sorry for the bad images.


I love the fact that Michelle and my sister Rose are becoming friends. I never had that. I love that Michelle respects my mom and goes down to Chula Vista with me.

Why is FH taking ownership of their relationship? Or maybe he was never friends with Moochie? Or not friends with Rose? Sheez! How confusing!


Tomorrow I see the kids! Man, you should see their Christmas list. But, BEFORE Christmas, my little girl becomes a teenager. Now, that’s a trip. 13 years old. I am so proud of my daughter. I am also so proud of Tony Hawk Jr. OR SHOULD I SAY SHECKLER JUNIOR. Eddie can’t stop skateboarding and his love for the skateboard is deep and I hope he continues to have fun and maybe JUST MAYBE he will live out his dreams to being a skateboard pro.

It might be helpful if he took a moment and discerned WHY he's proud of his daughter. I mean, he goes on and on about his son and skateboarding, is that all there is to Eddie? I doubt it. Oh well, I guess there's nothing quite like projecting your expectations on your child.

iamsheens
11-27-2007, 07:10 PM
I talk to my Mom every day, usually a few times, but that's by choice...we're very close. We have lots of gossip to catch up on and stuff!

Has anyone else noticed how every single post from Tubby about his Mom says exactly the same thing? She's SO MUCH stronger sounding now. She's SO MUCH better now. She's come SO FAR... blah blah. Tommy, face it. Your Mom is very frail, very ill and in all likelihood, not going to live a whole lot longer. That is tremendously sad, but the longer you pretend it isn't happening, the harder it is going to be. Stop putting that poor woman through your own mind games and let her age and die gracefully.

I also talk to my mom several times a day and I truly believe that if my mom were frail and what not I would react the same way as tommy saying she is strong and stuff....its probably him denying the whole situation that will take place soon of his mother dying...its hard, I feel for him in the aspect that no kid wants to see their parent die....maybe if he thinks she is doing better then she will get better....

iamsheens
11-27-2007, 07:14 PM
Based on past reports, I was glad that he didn't offer her his willie for a BJ. Just sayin'. Sorry for the bad images.



Why is FH taking ownership of their relationship? Or maybe he was never friends with Moochie? Or not friends with Rose? Sheez! How confusing!



It might be helpful if he took a moment and discerned WHY he's proud of his daughter. I mean, he goes on and on about his son and skateboarding, is that all there is to Eddie? I doubt it. Oh well, I guess there's nothing quite like projecting your expectations on your child.


if I were him I would be proud that at the age of 13 his daughter still communicates with him....notice the only things he ever associates with vanessa is shopping and hanging out with friends? Thats because he has no idea what other activities she does...and all he ever talks about on Eddie is his skatebaording...I wonder if he is even that into skate boarding?...based on tommy's blog you would think eddie skateboards 24/7. He isn't there to know the little ins and outs of what they do on a day to day basis so he repeats the same stuff over and over again....its sad.

he probably has really cool kids and he is so wrapped up in himself that he will never know how great they are....cause if he thinks their biggest accomplishments are skateboarding and shopping, well thats sad.

SDGirlNative
11-27-2007, 07:32 PM
Sorry Jake but I think you were out of line. I think you sounded arrogant and righteous. I find many of your posts have that tone.

I think Amused needs to do what is right for her. And I think FH could never be irrevelant...he is the father of her children.

DreamerGal
11-27-2007, 07:33 PM
if I were him I would be proud that at the age of 13 his daughter still communicates with him....notice the only things he ever associates with vanessa is shopping and hanging out with friends? Thats because he has no idea what other activities she does...and all he ever talks about on Eddie is his skatebaording...I wonder if he is even that into skate boarding?...based on tommy's blog you would think eddie skateboards 24/7. He isn't there to know the little ins and outs of what they do on a day to day basis so he repeats the same stuff over and over again....its sad.

he probably has really cool kids and he is so wrapped up in himself that he will never know how great they are....cause if he thinks their biggest accomplishments are skateboarding and shopping, well thats sad.

iamsheens, it is supremely sad. FH is the epitome of sad. A sad, lonely, self-centered man who cannot find happiness within himself, so he looks to others to "make" him happy.

SDReadhead
11-27-2007, 07:38 PM
I just joined up - I can't access this at work (dang surf controls) but it will be good to have another place to meet if/when G|A goes down again....

Don't forget to bookmark the site!

Thanks 1k1dm! Good idea to repost for our nightie-night timers.

I was visiting our group and see that lots have signed up. One thing -- some folks have their email addresses visible. That's fine if you want to, but in csae you don't -- there is a way to make your email address not visible. It's in the "edit your membership" part.

insightbyjake
11-27-2007, 07:44 PM
Yep, it is definitely gone. At least we have it here for posterity!

On a different note, I've found out that I'm expecting a baby girl! We are so thrilled that she is healthy and seemingly very fiesty. YAY! Sorry, just had to share! :)


"Sorry?" There's no sorry for that news! That's great!

Although, for the record, I have NEVER been to Oregon...

Elton, your comment reminded me of a quote (which I must paraphrase here),

"Behind every complex problem lies a simple solution --- and it's wrong."

Finally, it's funny, if a man talked to his mom several times a day, it would mean he's in big trouble ---- or very gay -- not that there's anything wrong with that....:wavey2:

Texasgirl
11-27-2007, 07:55 PM
Amused, I think you are making a sound decision in stepping out of posting about FH here. To him, any attention makes him powerful, and whenever you posted the "real story" it just fanned the flames of his anger.

I wish you and your children all the best.

DC#44

insightbyjake
11-27-2007, 07:57 PM
Sorry Jake but I think you were out of line. I think you sounded arrogant and righteous. I find many of your posts have that tone.

I think Amused needs to do what is right for her. And I think FH could never be irrevelant...he is the father of her children.

May I?

"I think you sounded arrogant and righteous."

That's funny, two months ago I gave a lecture to some math instrutors and one of them said, "I think you are arrogant and condescending."

So, I'm improving!

"I think Amused needs to do what is right for her."

I agree. And today, she said she wanted to find a more peaceful place.

"And I think FH could never be irrevelant..."

Pay attention: I said Amused needs to make FH irrelevant. I did not say, make him irrelevant to his children.

Amused was "reacting" to FH -- and thus, was losing her strength, as well as her sense of self. She was becoming, "Amused, when dealing with Tommy."

I merely suggested she stop, and go back to "Amused, apart from Tommy."

"I find many of your posts have that tone."

What, no credit for consistency?

SDGirl87
11-27-2007, 07:58 PM
:cheers:

claystone
11-27-2007, 09:48 PM
Bye Amused! You will be missed.

zodiac
11-27-2007, 09:50 PM
Um, SDGirl, are you having a private conversation with yourself tonight?? Are you feeling ok?? :)

11th Reader
11-27-2007, 09:54 PM
Yep, it is definitely gone. At least we have it here for posterity!

On a different note, I've found out that I'm expecting a baby girl! We are so thrilled that she is healthy and seemingly very fiesty. YAY! Sorry, just had to share! :)

Congrats!!!!! :)

pastherprime
11-27-2007, 10:03 PM
:neartears



:cry:

:hug: ?

GirlfromOR
11-27-2007, 10:45 PM
Thank you guys all so much for your happy thoughts about our little one. I've approached this pregnancy w/ cautious optimism as we suffered a devestating loss with our first baby in the second trimester. That little one had a severe congenital heart defect and they hoped to operate when he was born, but he wasn't strong enough to make it to a point where he could make it. It has been hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea that there is actually a baby, that WE were blessed with a healthy little one. I feel so lucky! I'm finally believing that I'll be a mom.

Someone asked for some details, and I'm really proud, so I'll share. I'm 21 weeks, due April 7, 2008. Like I said before, it's a little girl, weighing in at a whopping 13 ounces. She has mathematically doubled her weight in 3 weeks (just like FH!). She seems pretty stubborn already and gets mad at the ultrasounds because of the pressure the wand thing puts on my stomach. She flies around and kicks at the wand, making it difficult to get the measurements. Her heart is beautiful, whole, functioning. We are so lucky. I think her name will be Selah (maybe spelled Sayla, don't know yet).

Thanks for listening. I know this is completely irrelevant to the topic of this forum, but thanks. I just feel so honored and blessed to have this little girl in our lives, I want to shout it from the rooftops. Ah, now I'm getting all teary eyed.

GirlfromOR
11-27-2007, 10:48 PM
Oh and Jake, Oregon is amazing. Cold, but amazing :) Completely different than San Diego, but I'm so glad to have San Diego to visit any time I want! In fact, I was there about 22 weeks ago...

11th Reader
11-27-2007, 11:37 PM
Where in Oregon do you live?

You should be really excited about the baby. Babies are the most exciting and precious things ever! My sister just gave birth a bit ago to my second niece...and I can't wait to meet her for the first time in a few weeks when I go back to SD. My oldest niece (4 years old) was especially excited about the baby because she wanted a "sister like mommy has Auntie(me)". :)

Congrats again, and go ahead and keep shouting about it! :)

Newer Reader
11-27-2007, 11:50 PM
The Grinch ad is back on the J&J web site. I'll bet they're running it for free.

I listened for about 5 minutes today...long enough to hear Jer do a "20 reasons sex is good for you" segment. After it was done, Laura had a quick, witty, self-deprecating comeback, I don't remember exactly what she said (it had to do with her not "getting any") but I believe she was trying to give the impression that her comments were spontaneous ...sorry, it was obvious that they were scripted.

That's my report for today. Oh, only 10 minutes left in the day and I haven't used the word yet...um, I don't feel creative at all so here goes:

ORB. ORB. ORB.

NR #26

GirlfromOR
11-27-2007, 11:54 PM
I live in Portland. I heart it :) I hated it when I first came up here for college, because I left all of my friends behind. Then I met my husband when I was home for a summer and he came to visit me and I fell in love with the city while he was here. I transferred back to San Diego shortly after. We always said we'd move here when we got married and that is exactly what happened. I love it!

mamasterls
11-28-2007, 12:29 AM
Hello everyone,
I have the address to join the yahoo group if you want to. As for me, I'll only check the group if this site is down. Am I allowed to post a web address here? I guess I should read the TOS. If not, please forgive me mod! Here is the new yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jjdramathread Just go there and then hit "join this group" -- you can set it up so that your email address and identity are not made public. Let's hope our thread here is up and vibrant forever and that we don't need this back up.

Oh, one more thing - I added a new Yahoo identity to my yahoo profile to reflect my name on this board. That way I will be SDReadHead in both places. Just a thought for anyone who wants to do the same with their yahoo id.

OK, new yahoo persona created and I've joined. Thanks again!

SDReadhead
11-28-2007, 01:05 AM
Oh and Jake, Oregon is amazing. Cold, but amazing :) Completely different than San Diego, but I'm so glad to have San Diego to visit any time I want! In fact, I was there about 22 weeks ago...
Hmmm...you were in SD 22 weeks ago and you are 21 weeks pregnant. Anyone want to guess what our Oregon girl was doing in San Diego? Hey, when did I turn into Jer??? Next I'll be humming the boobs song. Yikes! What if I marry a transvestite clown????

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 06:34 AM
JAKE??? DID YOU CHEAT ON ME WITH GIRLFROR?????????? I wondered where you were that evening when you said you were in a lecture at Balboa Park. HMPF.

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 06:37 AM
:hug: ?


Thanks, I needed that :):wavey2:

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 07:04 AM
Let's start off the holiday season with style.

Our word today is.......


ELF (or Elves is also acceptable)

DreamerGal
11-28-2007, 07:11 AM
Thank you guys all so much for your happy thoughts about our little one. I've approached this pregnancy w/ cautious optimism as we suffered a devestating loss with our first baby in the second trimester. That little one had a severe congenital heart defect and they hoped to operate when he was born, but he wasn't strong enough to make it to a point where he could make it. It has been hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea that there is actually a baby, that WE were blessed with a healthy little one. I feel so lucky! I'm finally believing that I'll be a mom.

Someone asked for some details, and I'm really proud, so I'll share. I'm 21 weeks, due April 7, 2008. Like I said before, it's a little girl, weighing in at a whopping 13 ounces. She has mathematically doubled her weight in 3 weeks (just like FH!). She seems pretty stubborn already and gets mad at the ultrasounds because of the pressure the wand thing puts on my stomach. She flies around and kicks at the wand, making it difficult to get the measurements. Her heart is beautiful, whole, functioning. We are so lucky. I think her name will be Selah (maybe spelled Sayla, don't know yet).

Thanks for listening. I know this is completely irrelevant to the topic of this forum, but thanks. I just feel so honored and blessed to have this little girl in our lives, I want to shout it from the rooftops. Ah, now I'm getting all teary eyed.

Congratulations and best wishes Oregon Girl. I found that, once I became a mother (and you already are, lady!), I cried more often, laughed more deeply. It's like the little ones intensify our lives in every way.

You are starting one of the great adventures of life. And once you're in da club, you are always in da club! Welcome!

I will keep you in my prayers.

DreamerGal
11-28-2007, 07:13 AM
Oh and Jake, Oregon is amazing. Cold, but amazing :) Completely different than San Diego, but I'm so glad to have San Diego to visit any time I want! In fact, I was there about 22 weeks ago...

Hmmmmmmm ... sounds like Jake might got some 'splaining to do?

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 07:25 AM
GirlfromOR...

Please let me add my warmest and most heartfelt congratulations. What an incredible blessing for you this Christmas season. Take it easy, relax, drink lots of milk and enjoy this very special time with your daughter, as she grows and strengthens inside of you.

PLEASE keep us posted!!! (and don't forget to add an "A" after your number for your little girl!!)

Trixie
11-28-2007, 07:51 AM
:woohoo: GirlfromOR 88 & 88A were included in the number roster. I think she mentioned she was with child when numbers were being assigned. But now we know that baby is L'il Girl from OR. Congrats!!

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 08:45 AM
Tuesday November 27, 2007 11:15pm
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 8:14am

Tuesday November 27, 2007 11:15pm: I must of went to bed at 7pm, because I just woke up and I’m ready to go. I’m wide awake. I guess I’ll write a quick hello and then try to go back to bed. That’s the best feeling in the world to wake up and then realize you have SEVERAL more hours to sleep.

Since this gets special recognition and she’ll get a brand new token, I would like to say, in a few more days, LAURA CAIN will be celebrating 9 months sobriety. With all the STUFF going on in life and with so many things that have gone on since March 6, Laura Cain has stayed true with her program and on December 6, one her biggest fans will stand up and present her with a 9 month token, ME. For those of you in the club so to speak, that’s a very big deal. Many people usually relapse within 9 months, but not Laura. Time and time again, Laura absolutely inspires me. Congratulations Laura!

Tomorrow after the show, I’m doing some shopping and then seeing the kids and then my mom. My sister Rose turns 48 on Sunday. I have Rose and Lola left in my family. It goes boy girl boy girl boy girl. Lola, Ray, Barbara, Frank, Rose, and then ME.

I just wanted to say Happy Birthday to Rose. We call her Punkin. She does so much for my mom. When I walk into my mom’s home, my mom smiles at me in a big way, but when my sister Rose walks in to see my mom, that smile is even bigger. She takes care of my mom more than you could imagine and I just wanted to say I love you Punkin.

------went to bed and woke up again, now it’s 4am-------

Race for the Cure: It’s this Sunday morning. A lot of the regulars/friends from the walks and hikes are doing it and a lot of the team members from the 3 day (Buddies for Life) are going to be there. This is something that I hope you can make it to. I think it’s a 5K. The 3 day gets a lot of attention and gives a lot to the cause (breast cancer)….Race for the Cure is just as HUGE in spirit. Take the whole family.

Speaking of walking and if you’re eating, please put your food down: I talked about this before. Both toenails next to my big toe are black and blue from the 3 day. It doesn’t hurt at all, but it visually got blacker and bluer after the 3 day. During the 3 day it was throbbing, not up against the shoe, but the top of the shoe where the top of my nail would hit. I wore a half size bigger shoe for the 3 day and I still do, but the top of the shoe came down on the toe, I THINK. Does it fade back to regular color? Will I lose those 2 toenails? It has been the same without change for a week or two. Is it going to fall off?

Okay, go back to eating breakfast:

You know, I started talking about Laura’s sobriety being at 9 months and I just realized my walks and stuff have gone on for 9 months too on that same day of March 6th. Right now, I’m UP in my weight and I’m still eating leftovers from Thanskgiving. The first of the month is always a good time to try your best to get back in gear. I wanted to have a 2 month head start in my new years resolutions and goals for 2008 by eating healthy and right in November, WELL, Thanksgiving and a few parties and concerts gave me a big fat F in my report card. If this was school, my teacher would be calling a parent/teacher conference because of my bad habits, but what’s cool about this is: This isn’t school and we have a brand new month kicking off again on Saturday. December 2007 is finally here, so if you are like me and didn’t do November as you wished, well take my hand and lets go into December on a great note:

Saturday December 1st: 5:55am: Iron Mountain 9am: Torrey Pines Come join us. If you can’t do Iron with us, come to Torrey Pines. I do both, well I try to do both, but what’s cool about that is there are always going to be a regular there, even if I’m not there, but come join us. I will be at both places.

Sunday December 2nd: RACE FOR THE CURE…….Also, Sunday morning is Cowles Mountain……A lot of the regulars are doing RACE FOR THE CURE, so if you are wanting to come out to Cowles on this day, there might not be too many people there DUE to Race for the Cure. I will find out which regulars are there at 7:45 that are not going to do Race for the Cure.

With all that in mind, there’s some left over food in the fridge….I’m going to toss it all out. I don’t need to eat the honeybaked ham for another week or duck or lumpia. Today, my fridge will go back to water, fruit, veggies, and stuff like that. Hmmmm, I may keep the stuffing though. No, I better throw that out too. J

Here’s to a great December! US FAT PEOPLE CAN DO IT! J

TJLuv
11-28-2007, 08:54 AM
Thank you guys all so much for your happy thoughts about our little one. I've approached this pregnancy w/ cautious optimism as we suffered a devestating loss with our first baby in the second trimester. That little one had a severe congenital heart defect and they hoped to operate when he was born, but he wasn't strong enough to make it to a point where he could make it. It has been hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea that there is actually a baby, that WE were blessed with a healthy little one. I feel so lucky! I'm finally believing that I'll be a mom.

Someone asked for some details, and I'm really proud, so I'll share. I'm 21 weeks, due April 7, 2008. Like I said before, it's a little girl, weighing in at a whopping 13 ounces. She has mathematically doubled her weight in 3 weeks (just like FH!). She seems pretty stubborn already and gets mad at the ultrasounds because of the pressure the wand thing puts on my stomach. She flies around and kicks at the wand, making it difficult to get the measurements. Her heart is beautiful, whole, functioning. We are so lucky. I think her name will be Selah (maybe spelled Sayla, don't know yet).

Thanks for listening. I know this is completely irrelevant to the topic of this forum, but thanks. I just feel so honored and blessed to have this little girl in our lives, I want to shout it from the rooftops. Ah, now I'm getting all teary eyed.

Congrats on your healthy baby girl! Please keep us updated as possible. :)

I have to say that becoming a mom was the best thing that has ever happened to me. My son is my heart and soul... you have so much to look forward to. :)

RowdyOne
11-28-2007, 08:56 AM
^
:disa: All regurgitated blab again.

Layla
11-28-2007, 09:01 AM
Good Morning!

I am a day late using the word, but I had to share. This morning my daughters' school had a "Pay & Take" book fair set up. There was a small pink box that said Enlighten Me on in. Intrigued, I picked it up and it was a Light Orb! I giggled as I thought about buying it and making sure it was in every Holiday Picture we take this year.

I listed to the show for about 5 minutes today, if even that, as the two pervs told a 12 year old girl how the "chicks are all over them" because they ar DJs. Very approriate.:rolleyes:

GirlFromOR, Congratulations to you! Babies are so much fun!

Now, I must work!

PS. I find Jake to be Clever and Insightful :)

NewAgeGoddess
11-28-2007, 09:10 AM
JAKE??? DID YOU CHEAT ON ME WITH GIRLFROR?????????? I wondered where you were that evening when you said you were in a lecture at Balboa Park. HMPF.


He didn't cheat on you!!! He was with me pn a stakeout at the Golden Spoon in PQ!!!

OOPPPPSSS!!!!! Was I not supposed to tell her about this Jake?

lol

insightbyjake
11-28-2007, 09:40 AM
He didn't cheat on you!!! He was with me pn a stakeout at the Golden Spoon in PQ!!!

OOPPPPSSS!!!!! Was I not supposed to tell her about this Jake?

lol

What the world doesn't know is.....I've been cloned.

Yes, just like Michael Keaton in Multiplicity.

Of course, that means one manly one, one Martha-Stewart-wanna-be, and one, shall we say, "special" one.

"Who knows which is which, and who is who?"


(Okay now that's an obscure reference. Anyone?)


P.S. Now, I don't want to be a stick in the mud, BUT, if Oregon girl ever lived in Texas and ends up with "complications...." :bash: :fal: :johnwoo2: :nono: :smash:

DeeTroit
11-28-2007, 09:43 AM
Elton, As someone who has had to deal with a similar situation, the following story comes to mind:

Gift Of Insults

There once lived a great warrior. Though quite old, he still was able to defeat any challenger. His reputation extended far and wide throughout the land and many students gathered to study under him.
One day an infamous young warrior arrived at the village. He was determined to be the first man to defeat the great master. Along with his strength, he had an uncanny ability to spot and exploit any weakness in an opponent. He would wait for his opponent to make the first move, thus revealing a weakness, and then would strike with merciless force and lightning speed. No one had ever lasted with him in a match beyond the first move.

Much against the advice of his concerned students, the old master gladly accepted the young warrior's challenge. As the two squared off for battle, the young warrior began to hurl insults at the old master. He threw dirt and spit in his face. For hours he verbally assaulted him with every curse and insult known to mankind. But the old warrior merely stood there motionless and calm. Finally, the young warrior exhausted himself. Knowing he was defeated, he left feeling shamed.

Somewhat disappointed that he did not fight the insolent youth, the students gathered around the old master and questioned him. "How could you endure such an indignity? How did you drive him away?"

"If someone comes to give you a gift and you do not receive it," the master replied, "to whom does the gift belong?"

Layla
11-28-2007, 09:45 AM
What the world doesn't know is.....I've been cloned.

Yes, just like Michael Keaton in Multiplicity.

Of course, that means one manly one, one Martha-Stewart-wanna-be, and one, shall we say, "special" one.

"Who knows which is which, and who is who?"


(Okay now that's an obscure reference. Anyone?)


P.S. Now, I don't want to be a stick in the mud, BUT, if Oregon girl ever lived in Texas and ends up with "complications...." :bash: :fal: :johnwoo2: :nono: :smash:
Pink Floyd?

SDchick
11-28-2007, 09:50 AM
GirlFromOR!

Yay for adding one to the pink team! I'm so happy for you, my little girl and I are so bonded and "girlie" it's just a dream come true for me. Of course, i can't wait for the mother/sons bonding to also come about, but I'm sooo happy for you!

Right now my daughter has been a happy little ELF wrapping presents every night with me. She's 3 1/2, and this is finally the best year ever for her to really enjoy the season!

Congratulations again, and here's to a healthy and happy 19 weeks!!!

BecInCA
11-28-2007, 09:56 AM
What the world doesn't know is.....I've been cloned.

Yes, just like Michael Keaton in Multiplicity.

Of course, that means one manly one, one Martha-Stewart-wanna-be, and one, shall we say, "special" one.

"Who knows which is which, and who is who?"


(Okay now that's an obscure reference. Anyone?)


P.S. Now, I don't want to be a stick in the mud, BUT, if Oregon girl ever lived in Texas and ends up with "complications...." :bash: :fal: :johnwoo2: :nono: :smash:

Knights in White Satin by the Moody Blues?

BecInCA
11-28-2007, 09:59 AM
Oh wow, a Twilight Zone moment! My reply to Jake is wrong, but I just looked up the last few lines of that song (Knights in White Satin) and lo and behold, it contains yesterday's word of the day:

Cold-hearted orb that rules the night
Removes the colors from our sight
Red is grey and yellow white
But we decide which is right
And which is an illusion


Do do do do, do do do do (Twilight Zone sound effect)

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 10:04 AM
P.S. Now, I don't want to be a stick in the mud, BUT, if Oregon girl ever lived in Texas and ends up with "complications...."


LOL...that was EXACTLY my thought, but I feel pretty confident that our Girl in Oregon is on the up and up :)

I'm going on record officially though, right now (mark it down all ye nay sayers) that if there is some sort of problem, I will be praying privately and let someone else take the megaphone. I'm still pulling stitches out from the last go around.

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 10:23 AM
:wavey2:

Maybe if you ever come back, we can hear the end of the Mildred and Frank story. Or...perhaps we'll just make up our own forum ending, since we seem to do fairly well with drama around here!

You will be sorely missed by all of us. We appreciate your talent and that you shared it with us. Perhaps for old times sake, we may even resurrect a few of your better works here and there, just to keep the memories fresh.

Many of us saw your farewell message in the chat room...and "you know who" as you put it was notified especially to pass on the message.

Be well.

Elton
11-28-2007, 10:29 AM
Elton, As someone who has had to deal with a similar situation, the following story comes to mind:

Yeah, I get all of that. I just don't think it's truly possible to make someone "irrelevant" who is your children's father and is in your face (not literally, but he is) all the time. Hopefully not posting here can allow her to step back a bit and let it go. I never understood how it was healthy for her to post here because it just kept dredging up stuff. This is a place to talk about J&J but I wouldn't bring my real, serious problems here to discuss with strangers, especially if my kids and I could be ID'ed, as she was. That's what friends and family (and shrinks) are for.

BecInCA
11-28-2007, 10:34 AM
Laura's Diary - November 28th, 2007
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 1:19pm

Dear Diary,
I was so dead dog tired yesterday when I finally got back to Tommy's house that I fell asleep before the Dancing With The Stars finale. I did sit down to watch Intervention on DVR before putting on my PJ's, though. That show is brutal. The episode I watched was about Ryan, the OxyContin addict. He was horrid. If I put my family through anything like what Ryan put his family through, I will forever be sorry. I get kinda sad when I see an episode where a husband and wife make it through and support each other. Not my story. Enough about that.

I did find a cool new sponsor, I think. She came up to me at a meeting and we immediately clicked. That is such a weird thing, to ask someone to sponsor you. I'm just so glad she came up to me because I've been looking for a new one.

Yesterday, I took the kids to see the Kensington house. They ran in, rolled on the carpet, opened up all the doors and danced and danced. They love looking at houses…just like Momma. Charlie walked into the kitchen, saw that there was a refrigerator and said, "Oh, yah, we'll take it." How funny is that? While the guy from the management company was telling me details about rent and utilities, Evan and Charlie were stuffing themselves into a cabinet. Actually, it's one of those window seat things. It has a little latched door on the seat that opens up for storage. Both the kids both got inside and insisted that I close the door and sit on it. The minute I did, screams from inside…"It's so dark! Open, open!" When I opened it, they said "Momma, do it again, do it again!"

I was hoping that the guy wasn't making mental notes…"Do not rent to the lady with the obnoxious kids."

After we looked at that house, we walked through the neighborhood and found another house for rent on a canyon. It was super cool, but we didn't see the inside. After our walk, we went to the park in the middle of town. I love that town…love it.

Oh, I almost forgot to tell you about the movie Jerry, Delana and I saw yesterday! Holy cow. I must say that "No Country for Old Men" was one of the most captivating movies I've ever seen in terms of the acting. It was very bloody and very brutal and not the happiest movie in the world, by any stretch of the word, but we all loved it.

I ate a ton yesterday, too, and I'm feeling it today. Potato pancakes, Cream of Broccoli soup and a beef taco plate are among the delicacies I gorged on. Not pretty.

See you tomorrow, Diary.

Transplant
11-28-2007, 10:41 AM
"If I put my family through anything like what Ryan put his family through, I will forever be sorry."

Huh? Was she so blitz over the past 8 years that she really doesn't realize what she put her family through? I mean Charlie is going to therapy/counselling sessions!!!!!!!

On another note, it was nice to hear for a change that LBM didn't take her kids to see an inappropriate movie!

SimplyMe
11-28-2007, 10:46 AM
Amused - Be happy! Be healthy! Be whole!

FH - This is not a "win" for you in your mind scorecard!

Wonk - Say it's not so... you aren't really gone, are you?

Layla
11-28-2007, 10:47 AM
While the guy from the management company was telling me details about rent and utilities, Evan and Charlie were stuffing themselves into a cabinet. Actually, it's one of those window seat things. It has a little latched door on the seat that opens up for storage. Both the kids both got inside and insisted that I close the door and sit on it. The minute I did, screams from inside…"It's so dark! Open, open!" When I opened it, they said "Momma, do it again, do it again!"


Ruh-Roh! Am I the only one worried about that latch locking, kids inside, momma no where to be found?!

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
Ruh-Roh! Am I the only one worried about that latch locking, kids inside, momma no where to be found?!


Day 1: REMOVE THE LOCK.

Day 2: Lay down strict rules...if Mama isn't around, no hiding in the cabinets.

Day 3: Call carpenter to disassemble cabinet because kids figured out a way to lock themselves in anyway.

Kensington is my area...sigh. There will be LBM sightings, I'm sure. You KNOW where I'll go with the info!!

Elton
11-28-2007, 11:04 AM
After our walk, we went to the park in the middle of town. I love that town…love it.

Note to LBM: Kensington is not a TOWN, you bonehead. It is a neighborhood in San Diego.

And what's with the "poor me; my husband didn't stick by me like the couple on Intervention"? Uh, I think he stuck by ya for quite a few years there, chicky. And although I don't know him personally I suspect he knew from past experiences that your rehab mode wouldn't last or he wouldn't have thrown away your marriage and caused a hardship for your kids. He doesn't seem like a person who would walk away carelessly.

It continues to amaze me how she seeks her listeners' pity, when they have been around long enough to know Dave is a good guy. She has made that clear time and again pre-rehab. And now she wants to vilify him? Who's buying that load of BS? She needs to get away from FH before she becomes a female him, if she hasn't already.

Wabbitsd
11-28-2007, 11:05 AM
I remember seeing that episode of Intervention with that Ryan kid...not only was he horrid, but that Mother of his was at least half the reason he was into the drugs, in mu opinion. Such a screaming enabler, and lived off the dependence of those around her.

It's interesting that LBM doesn't want to be remembered as one who was so obviously abusive to those around her as that kid was..and probably still is...didn't he flunk out of rehab at the end? I saw it long time ago, wsa so disgusted with him and those around him I couldn't watch again when it was on this weekend.

She has to live with the fact that she was a horror to live with during that time...and her self-absorption continues to drag on her kids. Very sad to think someone can totally excuse themselves for all the destruction they have caused.

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 11:22 AM
Since so many have asked...my "toast" post last night was a "CHEERS" to Jake for his entry directly preceeding the toast...lol.

I was not drinking to excess last night (in fact, the strongest thing I had was a glass of milk with my oreos).

Those silly elves are playing havoc with us!

11ListenerNot
11-28-2007, 11:23 AM
Wednesday November 28, 2007 10:45am
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 2:09pm

Wednesday November 28, 2007 10:45am: So, you’re saying my toenails are going to fall off? OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just had time to catch up with some emails and some of you are saying because my toenail next to the big toe and both feet are black and blue, the nail will fall off. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess I’ll just keep walking and see if and when they do fall off. I did hear from a nice person who does marathons and there are TOE GUARDS I can use. That was the only problem I had on the 3 day, well along with my feet were killing me. Maybe I should see a foot doctor just as a check up since my feet are getting a bashing from my frame and long walks. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonight, I’m going to the grocery store. WATER, FRUIT, VEGGIES, GRILLED CHICKEN, raw almonds, etc. I need this for the next 2 weeks and I’ll be fine. I guess at times it can be overwhelming to think THE WHOLE MONTH be good, but if you just say maybe a week or two of doing it right, then it doesn’t sound so bad. SO, my new short term goal is eating right for 2 weeks and throwing in a bikram yoga class.
When I do have that 30 day plan going on and I stick to it, I do see results in less than 2 weeks. So, wish me luck.

There must be a few of you that are just REALLY REALLY busy and booked for the rest of the year. I have a party or two and a concert or two and some birthdays and Christmas, but it seems as if it would be easy for ONE to be BOOKED each day up until Christmas. Are you that FREAK? J

Friends: I don’t want to sound sappy or mushy, but I guess I am. I just want to talk about FRIENDSHIP. It’s cool to have friends. For a long time in my life, I used to be very very to myself and I never let anyone in to my feelings or anything. I wouldn’t let anyone know how I truly felt or if I was sad or happy or anything. That was a long time ago. Now my feelings are almost public with this blog and I have a co worker living with me who has turned out to be one of my best friends and I have walkers and hikers that I enjoy seeing and I have my friends at work and I have my longtime hoodlum buddies that I still talk to.

Over the last few days, my friends really helped me out. I found out who my friends really were and who I thought were my friends.

Last night, I was talking with Michelle and Laura and it was so cool to have us all together talking and having eachother’s backs and just opening up to them.

I guess this is me just saying I finally opened up in my life. I’m not quiet and to myself anymore.

For a while, I thought it was wise to not let anyone in to your life, but for me I think I was wrong, because my life is going really really well right now and that’s because of FRIENDS.

Yeah, that is kind of mushy huh?

I ALMOST DELETED what I just wrote, but, I’ll leave it up:

Here’s to people who live a clean, healthy, and positive life

iamsheens
11-28-2007, 11:39 AM
Wednesday November 28, 2007 10:45am
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 2:09pm

Wednesday November 28, 2007 10:45am: So, you’re saying my toenails are going to fall off? OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just had time to catch up with some emails and some of you are saying because my toenail next to the big toe and both feet are black and blue, the nail will fall off. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess I’ll just keep walking and see if and when they do fall off. I did hear from a nice person who does marathons and there are TOE GUARDS I can use. That was the only problem I had on the 3 day, well along with my feet were killing me. Maybe I should see a foot doctor just as a check up since my feet are getting a bashing from my frame and long walks. OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonight, I’m going to the grocery store. WATER, FRUIT, VEGGIES, GRILLED CHICKEN, raw almonds, etc. I need this for the next 2 weeks and I’ll be fine. I guess at times it can be overwhelming to think THE WHOLE MONTH be good, but if you just say maybe a week or two of doing it right, then it doesn’t sound so bad. SO, my new short term goal is eating right for 2 weeks and throwing in a bikram yoga class.
When I do have that 30 day plan going on and I stick to it, I do see results in less than 2 weeks. So, wish me luck.

There must be a few of you that are just REALLY REALLY busy and booked for the rest of the year. I have a party or two and a concert or two and some birthdays and Christmas, but it seems as if it would be easy for ONE to be BOOKED each day up until Christmas. Are you that FREAK? J

Friends: I don’t want to sound sappy or mushy, but I guess I am. I just want to talk about FRIENDSHIP. It’s cool to have friends. For a long time in my life, I used to be very very to myself and I never let anyone in to my feelings or anything. I wouldn’t let anyone know how I truly felt or if I was sad or happy or anything. That was a long time ago. Now my feelings are almost public with this blog and I have a co worker living with me who has turned out to be one of my best friends and I have walkers and hikers that I enjoy seeing and I have my friends at work and I have my longtime hoodlum buddies that I still talk to.

Over the last few days, my friends really helped me out. I found out who my friends really were and who I thought were my friends.

Last night, I was talking with Michelle and Laura and it was so cool to have us all together talking and having eachother’s backs and just opening up to them.

I guess this is me just saying I finally opened up in my life. I’m not quiet and to myself anymore.

For a while, I thought it was wise to not let anyone in to your life, but for me I think I was wrong, because my life is going really really well right now and that’s because of FRIENDS.

Yeah, that is kind of mushy huh?

I ALMOST DELETED what I just wrote, but, I’ll leave it up:

Here’s to people who live a clean, healthy, and positive life

When your a public figure i'd think it be hard to keep to yourself...especially when you have domestic charges against you. I just cant believe anyone would want to be friends with tommy....i would think it would get boring hearing about his life constantly...thats how i feel about reading his blogs.

iamsheens
11-28-2007, 11:47 AM
lol i just freaked out at work cause the caller id said little randy....for a sec I just saw the little and I was thinking how the heck did tommy get my work number....whew that was sorta but not really a close call...hahaha

SDchick
11-28-2007, 11:58 AM
:wavey2:

Maybe if you ever come back, we can hear the end of the Mildred and Frank story. Or...perhaps we'll just make up our own forum ending, since we seem to do fairly well with drama around here!

You will be sorely missed by all of us. We appreciate your talent and that you shared it with us. Perhaps for old times sake, we may even resurrect a few of your better works here and there, just to keep the memories fresh.

Many of us saw your farewell message in the chat room...and "you know who" as you put it was notified especially to pass on the message.

Be well.
I cannot/could not get into that chat room, though I did see Wonk's farewell graphic yesterday... can someone fill me in? Reasons? Did he get sick of us? Did he get a life? First Amused, now The Wonk...

Transplant
11-28-2007, 12:07 PM
I cannot/could not get into that chat room, though I did see Wonk's farewell graphic yesterday... can someone fill me in? Reasons? Did he get sick of us? Did he get a life? First Amused, now The Wonk...

Ok, so i signed up with the yahoo chat room...now how do i see what's been posted or ?????

SDchick
11-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Laura's Diary - November 28th, 2007
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 1:19pm

Dear Diary,
I get kinda sad when I see an episode where a husband and wife make it through and support each other. Not my story. Enough about that.


See you tomorrow, Diary.
Honestly, does she really see herself as having been abandoned by Dave? What IS her version of what went down in her family? That she just partied a little, went to rehab, and her husband ditched her and left her for homeless?

I mean, COME ON! Who does she think she's fooling? And how much does she expect a spouse to put up with?

Mom2ThreeBoys
11-28-2007, 12:20 PM
Laura's Diary - November 28th, 2007
Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 1:19pm

While the guy from the management company was telling me details about rent and utilities, Evan and Charlie were stuffing themselves into a cabinet. Actually, it's one of those window seat things. It has a little latched door on the seat that opens up for storage. Both the kids both got inside and insisted that I close the door and sit on it. The minute I did, screams from inside…"It's so dark! Open, open!" When I opened it, they said "Momma, do it again, do it again!"

OH.
MY.
GOD.

If anyone has any direct or indirect way to contact to davecain, please make sure he sees this. It goes so far beyond her usual horrid parenting "skills". This is a matter of life and death safety. LBM, why don't you try googling "children locked in trunk" to see what happens when you teach your kids to play like this. Geezus, how stupid can someone be?

DreamerGal
11-28-2007, 12:24 PM
OH.
MY.
GOD.

...

Geezus, how stupid can someone be?

We're talking about LBM here, folks. Ummmmmmmm ... pretty freakin stupid!!!

OneKidOneDogMom
11-28-2007, 12:39 PM
Ok, so i signed up with the yahoo chat room...now how do i see what's been posted or ?????

The last time I checked there were no posts there - it was set up as a sort of "emergency shelter" in case G|A is down....so we don't have to go through withdrawals when we can't chat with our peeps!

Just make sure to bookmark it!

blondmom
11-28-2007, 12:49 PM
laura, i feel you are reading here...take the darn house..NOW

stop living with Tommy and Michelle in his fantasy world of having both of you (maybe not a fantasy?)

sign the papers today. call a moving company, pay for help, and be there this weekend.

your cable company can set up your DVR or whatever you use, call them today...do not use excuses like needing to watch Dancing with the Stars to keep you at tommy's circus home

make nice with your husband/ex husband...you will be dealing with him for many years. tell him you are sorry for all the crap you have put your entire family through, tell him again and again.

go!

SDReadhead
11-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Ok, so i signed up with the yahoo chat room...now how do i see what's been posted or ?????

Hi Transplant -- the chat room is different from the yahoo group. The chat room was set up during the fires and you can pm SDgirl87 for info on how to get into the chat room. I know that it went down for a day or so during the fires and so I'm not sure if it came back up again or if the people who were on there established a new one. The Yahoo group is just a place where we can pick up where we left off in case this thread ever is down or gone for some reason. Glad you signed up.

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 01:44 PM
Chat room is still very much up and running :) PM me and I'll send you the link and password!

shello
11-28-2007, 02:08 PM
:bash: :fal: :johnwoo2: :nono: :smash:

Sheesh, I think Jake's band could kick the asses (and kick em well!) of my bandmates. But my band has great hair!

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 02:32 PM
:turkey: :woohoo:

holiday spirit

iamsheens
11-28-2007, 02:43 PM
:turkey: :woohoo:

holiday spirit
A few different ways to show in animation how im feeling today...hehe

:dead:
:sneeze:
:sick:
:sad:
:spock:

boris85
11-28-2007, 03:54 PM
Honestly, does she really see herself as having been abandoned by Dave? What IS her version of what went down in her family? That she just partied a little, went to rehab, and her husband ditched her and left her for homeless?

I mean, COME ON! Who does she think she's fooling? And how much does she expect a spouse to put up with?

Here's a simple math equation for Laura C. Loser:
cocaine + (meth X alcohol) / pain medication - personal responsibility - integrity - parenting skills - marriage = 0 (i.e., worthless; i.e., Laura)

shello
11-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Yes, I love that holiday spirit! If you want to get in the Christmas mode and mood, then do what hubby and I did last weekend with our out-of-town folk. (It was a lot in three days so you may want to pick and choose your fun) All of the following are very festive: Sea World, the Zoo, Hotel del Coronado (I thought about Laura while we were there. They have an outdoor ice rink with a view of the beach) Old Town, Viejas mall and Seaport Village. Hotel del was the prettiest!

I feel the need to congratulate Laura on her near 9-month sobriety. I am happy for her and yes, she needs to leave FH's Fun, Frathouse. I think that will be a positive step for her in getting back on track.

shello
11-28-2007, 03:59 PM
A few different ways to show in animation how im feeling today...hehe

:dead:
:sneeze:
:sick:
:sad:
:spock:

iamsheens, does that mean you are constipated? Sorry you are having a bad day.

SDGirl87
11-28-2007, 04:04 PM
There's Boris. I've been wondering where he'd gotten off to. Probably studying some mating habits of the spotted owls indiginous to Bora Bora was my guess.

iamsheens
11-28-2007, 04:08 PM
iamsheens, does that mean you are constipated? Sorry you are having a bad day.

lol no im sick with a cold...no fun....:|

NewAgeGoddess
11-28-2007, 09:19 PM
What the world doesn't know is.....I've been cloned.

Yes, just like Michael Keaton in Multiplicity.

Of course, that means one manly one, one Martha-Stewart-wanna-be, and one, shall we say, "special" one.

"Who knows which is which, and who is who?"


(Okay now that's an obscure reference. Anyone?)




P.S. Now, I don't want to be a stick in the mud, BUT, if Oregon girl ever lived in Texas and ends up with "complications...." :bash: :fal: :johnwoo2: :nono: :smash:

I really hope the manly one was with me on stateout!!!!

SDGirlNative
11-28-2007, 09:19 PM
Jake...your post to me completely validated what I said.

On another note...LBM is ridiculous with her Davecain bashing. Anyone with half a brain thinks he already gave her too many chances. She is a scary human being.

GirlfromOR
11-28-2007, 10:41 PM
P.S. Now, I don't want to be a stick in the mud, BUT, if Oregon girl ever lived in Texas and ends up with "complications...." :bash: :fal: :johnwoo2: :nono: :smash:

Haha. My only experience in Texas was at Lackland AFB where I watched my sister graduate from basic training. I think I was there for 4 days. However, I have lived in a tent in Montana. I seem to be beyond the complications in my pregnancy, thank God! Beyond that, I'm not 5'9" and 125 lbs, don't have a bunch of kids, and my husband isn't in Iraq. :)

insightbyjake
11-28-2007, 11:50 PM
Haha. My only experience in Texas was at Lackland AFB where I watched my sister graduate from basic training. I think I was there for 4 days. However, I have lived in a tent in Montana. I seem to be beyond the complications in my pregnancy, thank God! Beyond that, I'm not 5'9" and 125 lbs, don't have a bunch of kids, and my husband isn't in Iraq. :)

For that we are thankful....


Good night moon....

insightbyjake
11-29-2007, 12:01 AM
Pink Floyd?


YOU WIN!!!

Here's a sample of verse and chorus...abbreviated...

Us, and them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me, and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do.....

Forward he cried from the rear
and the front rank died.
And the General sat, and the lines on the map
moved from side to side......

Black and blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and Down
And in the end it's only round and round and round......

Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
the poster bearer cried.
Listen son, said the man with the gun,
There's room for you inside

SDGirl87
11-29-2007, 06:43 AM
Thursday November 29, 2007 1am
Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 8:52am

Thursday November 29, 2007 1am: That’s right, it’s 1am. I’m THE BIGGEST LOSER in the world. That’s how I feel. A few hours ago Michelle was looking all over her home for ear plugs, so I’m already feeling like a loser because of my snoring. She can’t find them, so she goes to bed with pillows over her ears, so I’m not feeling all that good at this time. Then, she says “hey, we should figure out our sleep schedule”. She said it while in a deep sleep, but for me, the way I heard it MIGHT AS WELL OF BEEN: “hey, go home, I can’t sleep”…..So, I jumped up, got my little black bag of toiletries and clothes and drove home with my hair all messed up and my shoes not even tied. I’m thinking my shorts were even on backwards. I didn’t even say goodbye, I just turned off the tv, set the alarm, and left. I’m the biggest loser in the world.

THEN, when I get to my own home, I walk in about 12:45am. I hear Laura upstairs get up as if she hears a robber, so I say to myself, great, NOW I’m GONNA GET SHOT in my own home because she thinks I’m a burgular. NOTE: I have never ever spelled burgular before. It doesn’t look right. Well, anyway I yell up to the upstairs master bedroom, “it’s me Laura, it’s me Tommy”…..She replies from the other side of the door, “is everything okay, why are you home”……Then, I say right back to her, “I was snoring too loud, so I came home”……Laura says “awwwww”……I said good night and now I’m saying hello to you with my hair all messed up and my shoes not even tied.

I am the biggest loser!

The only thing left I can possibly do to make me an even bigger loser is to go heat up a plate of some food in the fridge. Ah crap, nothing is in there except water and fruit. I tossed out the leftovers.

I can’t even be a loser, the way I want to be.

I guess I better get my pillow and blanket and go to bed on the couch.

I love you and I will talk to you later on this morning.

Transplant
11-29-2007, 07:07 AM
delana, LBM and someone else did the dancing elves on Office Max's website (the one that Wonk or Jake posted earlier) and posted it on the J&J website!!!!!

newgal
11-29-2007, 07:47 AM
can it be true, does he finally really see that he is a big loser?? Although I have to say that the snoring is not what would prevent me from sleeping with FH!! The fact that looking at him would make me want to throw up is what would stop me. It is after all difficult to sleep while heaving!

11ListenerNot
11-29-2007, 08:14 AM
This week the spewgram had the dumbest segment, they are throwing items down stairs, I suppose for the noise factor. Today it was a console television, one day it was dishes from Little Pepper Deli. ugh. I wish someone would throw them down the stairs...