San Diego - 94.1 FM J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread

[SDchick]

I think it depends on what their story is. If they've been living in a car and/or hotels, then yes, I think it's possible that a child would ask for bedding, blankets and warm things. I have seen a few episodes of Extreme Makeover Home Edition where the kids are the ones asking for the "logical" stuff. I think it really depends on their story.
I have a very poor family in my classroom, I mean, the boy and his family have lived either in their car or gone from shelter to shelter. (my school is "adopting" them for Christmas, and he's at his "party" right now as a matter of fact!)

Anyway, he knows what poor is, and for his birthday this year, he said he wished for a house. He did go on and on, wanted his own room, big tv, etc... but the bottom line, he didn't ask for warm blankets or anything as heart-breaking as that, he went for the GOLD, a house! I love this kid, I have switched grades this year and asked to keep him again, so I could keep track of him, not let him "fall" through the cracks, made sure he is getting lots of assistance, that kind of thing.


Where was I going with this? Oh, that kid on the radio may have been set up to ask for blankets, but you never know!

[SDchick]

Hey, I haven't checked out the B&E pictures yet, but I did take one for the team today, and listened.

Did anyone else hear this part today?? Jeff said they DO NOT post pictures of the family members, the house, or any part of the house, to protect their identity, their dignity, etc...

I hear everyone talking about the pics, so I'll check them out, but are they of the house itself???

[GirlfromOR]

I am going to be honest here.....

I don't see the harm in letting a kid scratch off a scratcher (assuming you were the one who wanted it, and you are teaching the kid how to behave properly with saving v spending habbits. Which Laura specifically lacks.)

My problem w/ the scratchers is that they are not old enough to be playing lotto games, and she is teaching them that the rules do not apply to them. We know Charlie has better savings habits than LBM because she was always borrowing cash from him.

[Wabbitsd]

Jeff obviously is reading from an older script...they did show scenes outside AND inside the house...anyone see that lamp in one of the last pictures? Looks like Tommy's crew broke the shade and the lightbulb...

GirlfromOr...Charlie maynot have better savings habits, but I'll bet LBM either knows EXACTLY where he keeps his money, or she knows when he gets the money (like from grandparents, etc.)

[Carol]

I think it also depends on how old the boy is. Perhaps he is on the older side, and thinks about wanting things such as warm blankets for the family?

[boris85]

Cable bill, increased auto registration fees, increased insurance expense, increased S.D.G.& E. from heaters, computers, televisions...

Here's a thought: Buy birth control pills for daughters (okay, that was sarcasm)

Seriously, how about doing this for B & E.?

One of the "sponsors" offer Dad a job. Cut back on the toys. Give each child $100 and instruct them to buy something for others in the neigborhood (like food, toys, etc. for other needy families). Put the other thousands into a couple of CD's for a "rainy day." Start a small scholarship fund to reward the kids with a college future if they apply themselves throughout high school.

Most "hardship" families could benefit over time with more opportunities and less "stuff."

But then again, that's why I'm not in radio -- I'm not good at filtering my thinking through Arbitron ratings.

Well put. Lik I always say, fart and give others the pleasure of your inner stank, teach others to fart in unison and clear a room.

[boris85]

I have a very poor family in my classroom, I mean, the boy and his family have lived either in their car or gone from shelter to shelter. (my school is "adopting" them for Christmas, and he's at his "party" right now as a matter of fact!)

Anyway, he knows what poor is, and for his birthday this year, he said he wished for a house. He did go on and on, wanted his own room, big tv, etc... but the bottom line, he didn't ask for warm blankets or anything as heart-breaking as that, he went for the GOLD, a house! I love this kid, I have switched grades this year and asked to keep him again, so I could keep track of him, not let him "fall" through the cracks, made sure he is getting lots of assistance, that kind of thing.

Where was I going with this? Oh, that kid on the radio may have been set up to ask for blankets, but you never know!

It's a set-up from the start. First of all, the kid asked for blankets to get sympathy and to get chosen for B&E. If he started out sking for what he really wanted, he'd never get selected by Tummy. Look for a large garage sales at the address next week - as they get rid of the stuff and move back into their real home. If you want poor people - I'll give you poor people. I know one family, friends of the singer Jewel, that lives in their VW Beetle in OB. They couldn't afford the VW van like Jewel. She was one of the rich parkers who had an end space. These people were so poor, they actually started to eat one another. Sad, very sad.

[11th Reader]

Laura's Diary - December 20th, 2007

At the front door, there were piles and piles of stuff for the Breaking-and-Entering Christmas family. Listeners dropped all sorts of stuff at Tommy's door. I carried in towels and socks and sleeping bags and a DVD Player and PJ's and Toiletries and a vacuum. I just stared at the giant pile of stuff in Tommy's living room and marveled at the generosity of strangers. Beautiful.

I know this is awful, but why oh why do I have this feeling that LBM sifted through some of the stuff to see if she could sneak a few for herself? I mean, she's just as deserving...right?

[DreamerGal]

Well put. Lik I always say, fart and give others the pleasure of your inner stank, teach others to fart in unison and clear a room.

Profound, Boris.

[DreamerGal]

You know, everytime I see a picture of Tubby-Two-Ton, I think constipation. He always looks like he's straining ...

[boris85]

I know this is awful, but why oh why do I have this feeling that LBM sifted through some of the stuff to see if she could sneak a few for herself? I mean, she's just as deserving...right?

Awful! Awfully true, that is. Charlie Chimp and little Evan (and maybe even Chips Ahoy) will be getting good stuff this year!!! First they will open gifts, and then they will head down to Father Joe's for free grub!

[Wabbitsd]

Oh, I think LBM will wrangle an invite to Moochie's big family doings. She can take zip lock bags and stock the refrig in her Kensington Digs.

[zodiac]

Is anyone else on the edge of their seats waiting for FH's next blob?? It's been three whole days for pete's sakes! B&E is over now, he should have enough time to entertain us again don't ya think?
FH, we're waiting..........

:santa:

[SDGirl87]

Is anyone else on the edge of their seats waiting for FH's next blob?? It's been three whole days for pete's sakes! B&E is over now, he should have enough time to entertain us again don't ya think?
FH, we're waiting..........

:santa:

I say we "help him" write it...that way he can copy/paste it from here and save himself all of the effort...

Anyone else up for it? :cheers:

[GirlfromOR]

I know this is awful, but why oh why do I have this feeling that LBM sifted through some of the stuff to see if she could sneak a few for herself? I mean, she's just as deserving...right?

You get the feeling that she did this because her previous behavior indicates that it is something she would do. She has a problem with entitlement and self control, and that feeds her very being. Thats how she ended up in this mess!

[GirlfromOR]

Well, the problem I see with all the carping is based solely on their blog version of events. There is no third-party, objective accounting of what really happened. Since Laura and Flubby are "showbiz", I expect some hyperbole.

Having just spent a week celebrating my Grandmother's 90th, I can tell you all sorts of family faux pas that have become the source of great hilarity.

Well of course we "carp" solely based on their blog version of events. That is what they say they do, right? I base my opinion based off of their first person account of what they say they do. Nobody is following her around making sure LBM blogs the truth. If they are faking their blogs and don't like what we have to say, shouldn't they stop lying? This tread is the drama thread. When someone is documenting their poor parenting skills on a daily basis (even though they are in the middle of a custody dispute and know it could be used against them!), yeah, I'm going to share my opinion whether they are lying or not.

And the family faux pas thing... kind of different. Things that effect only your family are one thing, but when it effects an entire audience of people and a group of kids who worked hard on their performance, that is another. There are lots of family things that become funny stories later on. Rehab and destroying your family don't really count. Ruining a Christmas pagent for the rest of the parents doesn't count! There is a difference between faux pas and socially unacceptable. I don't see anyone in LBM's family laughing at her mistakes, except for maybe her.

[insightbyjake]

Hey, I haven't checked out the B&E pictures yet, but I did take one for the team today, and listened.

Did anyone else hear this part today?? Jeff said they DO NOT post pictures of the family members, the house, or any part of the house, to protect their identity, their dignity, etc...

I hear everyone talking about the pics, so I'll check them out, but are they of the house itself???

You see the house, the neighbors watching, it is located on a street with overhead telephone lines, you see it's color, the picture on the front window....not too hard to figure out if you happened to live nearby.

Worse, I am stunned at the volume of "stuff." The photos depict a good idea gone blatently over-the-top. For God's sake, this is getting turned into a contest for "who can donate the most and get free advertising."


The best part, a jewlry store donating fine jewelry --- yes, J & J and company have surely shown San Diego the true meaning of Christmas:

What good is a small, thoughtful gesture when one can introduce gluttony at the highest level?


P.S. Funniest part this morning: The family was taken out to breakfast in order to gain access to the house. FH describes the mountain of food being brought in and proclaims, "The first thing these kids are going to do is attack this food! I've seen poor kids and food is what they want."

Only in the world of FH does one go out to breakfast and come home and eat. Here's to the sad tale of Guamanian poverty 'till age 6 and a life-time of making sure hunger is never an issue :cheers:

[wanky]

Whether hyperbole is used or not in their blogs (for sure Tummy goes beyond it - he makes up an entirely different persona, except for the eating part), I think what they say is fair game. LBM, for example, may be pretty accurate in portraying herself as a disorganized, selfish, shopaholic, inappropriate, classless entity. Although I don't know her personally, I believe her to be the real Laura in her diary. She may not disclose information regarding Davecain readily, but for the most part, I believe she pretty much pegged herself accurately. So when Laura says she was making faces at Charlie while he was performing, you better believe it 100% and you can bet she was very disruptive to people around her. She is, after all, a big deal and she will do as she pleases.

[oops]

Right on Jake! Like the Mom needs four pendants from the jeweler?! Geez! eBay! Craigslist! Hope they make something off all the extras. Agree that what most of these families need is a leg up, not a houseful of stuff that incurs expense and storage.

Wonder if FH will talk about crying and choking up in his blahhhhg; since he didn't seem to shed a tear this morning (per usual).

Funny about Jeff talking about protecting the anonymity of the family and there are photos of everything but the house address on the website just hours later. Wonder if the house is burglarized if they could sue the station?????? uh-oh! :duh:

[oops]

I thought the same thing about FH saying hte kids were going to come home and pig out! For Godsakes they were coming home from breakfast!

[wanky]

P.S. Funniest part this morning: The family was taken out to breakfast in order to gain access to the house. FH describes the mountain of food being brought in and proclaims, "The first thing these kids are going to do is attack this food! I've seen poor kids and food is what they want."

Only in the world of FH does one go out to breakfast and come home and eat. Here's to the sad tale of Guamanian poverty 'till age 6 and a life-time of making sure hunger is never an issue :cheers:

Food is FH's best friend! Never mind the tons of toys and other presents amidst them. Note to Tummy: They just ate. Food would be the last thing on their minds. You can't seem to grasp the concept of breakfast, lunch, and dinner. In your world, eating is part of your every waking moment. Heck, you probably dream about it too!

[iamsheens]

You see the house, the neighbors watching, it is located on a street with overhead telephone lines, you see it's color, the picture on the front window....not too hard to figure out if you happened to live nearby.

Worse, I am stunned at the volume of "stuff." The photos depict a good idea gone blatently over-the-top. For God's sake, this is getting turned into a contest for "who can donate the most and get free advertising."


The best part, a jewlry store donating fine jewelry --- yes, J & J and company have surely shown San Diego the true meaning of Christmas:

What good is a small, thoughtful gesture when one can introduce gluttony at the highest level?


P.S. Funniest part this morning: The family was taken out to breakfast in order to gain access to the house. FH describes the mountain of food being brought in and proclaims, "The first thing these kids are going to do is attack this food! I've seen poor kids and food is what they want."

Only in the world of FH does one go out to breakfast and come home and eat. Here's to the sad tale of Guamanian poverty 'till age 6 and a life-time of making sure hunger is never an issue :cheers:

That was my problem with the pics too there was sooo much stuff that they could have easily split between 3 families. And again I thought a lot of the stuff wasn't pratical...sure a cotton candy machine would be fun for a kid but what happens when you run out of the supplies for the machine and you cant afford to operate it anymore and the kids are sad?

Same with the cofee maker...I think if your family is really struggling to survive you probably shouldnt be worried about luxury items like coffee...unless your poor from going to starbucks every morning...I just would think that adults who are REALLY struggling would ask for important things like tolietries, food, clothing, and other necessities. I say splurge a little on the kids get them clothes, a few toys, but 2 TV'S seems a tad excessive...Im suprised they weren't flat screens.

And if jewlery was given to these families you have got to be kidding me...any poor family is going to pawn the jewelry in a heartbeat...why not just save them some gas money and give them the gas..why not get gas cards, food cards, wal-mart, target, wherever gift cards. let these people pick out what they want...don't make life even tougher on them by giving them extra expenses every month like cable bills, extra money spent at the grocery store and so on.

You would think since tommy grew up poor he would remember luxury items cost money...i get he is trying to give a less fortunate family a great christmas and I'm sure that he succeeds each year I just think they could be a little more modest and share these presents with more families and get gifts that are more practical for a family who doesnt have much money...

i dunno im really annoyed about this....ugh...

[GGmami]

ok well I just looked at the breaking and entering pics and although the families got a lot of stuff they trashed the place in the process....plus I saw 2 snowboards...first of all they might be practical if San Diego got snow but it doesn't... so you would have to drive to like big bear...if these families are poor doesn't a trip to big bear seem expensive? I don't see the logic behind that purchase.

Secondly, was his kids there in the pics? He made such a big deal about them sharing this experience with him but I don't think I saw them in the pictures.

Thirdly, I saw laura's track suit...and omg how hideous....I cant believe a target employee let her take that out of the store...I can't believe Target even sells it, Kmart sure, but ugh what was she thinking? I did like the converse shoes though....

I thought the same thing about the snowboards. How does that help a poor family? I can't afford lift tickets, and I'm not poor. So now the kids are going to see the snowboards and be disappointed that they can't use them.

[iamsheens]

Food is FH's best friend! Never mind the tons of toys and other presents amidst them. Note to Tummy: They just ate. Food would be the last thing on their minds. You can't seem to grasp the concept of breakfast, lunch, and dinner. In your world, eating is part of your every waking moment. Heck, you probably dream about it too!


WAIT WAIT WANKY...you mean to tell me a child would choose toys over food even though they just ate??????? That's unheard of....full children wouldn't want more food...I am in shock, complete shock...

Note to tommy: Almost any kid would have more interest in toys over food, even if they were starving....get a clue...

I think everyday in tommyland is just food galore...breakfeast lunch and dinner are happening on the hour....he's like a kid in candy store only his decisions arent between jelly beans and gumi bears they are between hamburgers and and tacos....french toast and an omlette....a steak and a buffet...i think you get the point...

[iamsheens]

I thought the same thing about the snowboards. How does that help a poor family? I can't afford lift tickets, and I'm not poor. So now the kids are going to see the snowboards and be disappointed that they can't use them.

exactly if an average incomed can't afford lift tickets how can a poor family? even if everything was all expenses paid from the gas getting to the place, to food, hotel and whatever else...that money could be used in such a better way....I guess when your a big deal and make a ton of money you forget about your roots and how that trip would make absolutely no sense and the family would probably rather have the money for other issues, maybe a oil change in their car, maybe money towards bills, you know practical things that could actually help a family out...
so those were snowboards after all? I thought they may have ended up being skateboards....

[iamsheens]

I'm so livid about this breaking and entering ordeal...ugh

[IMISSLEO]

"Attention Welfare shoppers, we are having a blue light special on hideous tracks suits on aisle 12, right across from the 'Pin the Tail on Laura's Horse Face' game."


Oh Great...now what do I use to safely clean the raspberry I just spit out off my laptop screen??? Laughing shouldn't cause more housework!!!

[GGmami]

exactly if an average incomed can't afford lift tickets how can a poor family? even if everything was all expenses paid from the gas getting to the place, to food, hotel and whatever else...that money could be used in such a better way....I guess when your a big deal and make a ton of money you forget about your roots and how that trip would make absolutely no sense and the family would probably rather have the money for other issues, maybe a oil change in their car, maybe money towards bills, you know practical things that could actually help a family out...
so those were snowboards after all? I thought they may have ended up being skateboards....
I think maybe they were skateboards, oops. Still a cotton candy machine?? Give me a break, thats what a poor kid needs...sugar, instead of healthy food. Is Fh going to pay for the dental visits? I actually thought the coffee maker was okay, but maybe thats because I see coffee as a necessity, not a luxury.:)

[oops]

but 2 TV'S seems a tad excessive...Im suprised they weren't flat screens.
And if jewlery was given to these families you have got to be kidding me...

Oh yeah! They were flat screens, hung on the walls by Cox Cable! And jewelery from Versailles. I think 4 skateboards from Eddie's pro boarder friend/coach. And like 5 bikes (well one of the "kids" is a 26 year old adult with a little toddler...so that should come in handy!)

I just look at it all and wonder where they'll store it all.

More is not better. They did receive gift cards to various stores (Fry's was mentioned and I wondered, what does a family who needed blankets need a Fry's card for???). Hopefully they got some cards for groceries and stores that supply real-life items--Target/Wal-Mart/Sears).

And J&J always talk about how the family will remember this as the best Christmas ever. I tend to think they may be very touched by the generousity, but I personally hope that this is NOT their best ever; that this is probably a very rough patch and that future/past Christmases that they make happen for themselves will bring them more pride, joy and dignity.

[LisaP]

ACK, I have been so busy with work these days [I am one of those that has to work more than 4 hours a day], that I am soooooo behind on the board. I hope to catch up this weekend - maybe.

Just a couple of quick comments.

RedWillow - We might have crossed paths. My friends and I hung out with some CVHS peeps from that time.

Candy Cane Lane and Xmas Tree Circle were awesome, but soooooooooooooo crowded. Since I am out East now, I will have to check out Starlight Circle.

I am sure if I look closer at the B&E pics, I too will know the house. And so will any crook with internet now.

Lastly, just a little note to Jeff and Jer. That Xmas Tree Recipe that you have posted as "yours" on your website, um, ya, that would be the same recipe that Loren Nancarrow has been giving out for years. That makes it about as "yours" and "new" as you talking about how "oh snap" is now THE thing to say.

Okay, the kid needs his bath. Seeing as I don't have a neighbor to pawn him off on to watch him bathe.

[MOOCHIE]

I accidentally found you guys about a month ago. Not a happy day for me. Just wondering why...

[pax]

I am an alumnus of CVHS and I lived in CV for over ten years. It's not "da hood."

[pax]

I accidentally found you guys about a month ago. Not a happy day for me. Just wondering why...

Huh?

[Sapphie]

I accidentally found you guys about a month ago. Not a happy day for me. Just wondering why...
Wondering why you found this thread or wondering why it's not a happy day?...every day is a happy day Moochie...in fact..it's the best day of our lives! :)

[oops]

Moochie--Just wondering why you're still stuck under FH?

[oops]

Just wondering why...you didn't catch a clue from FH's kids' disgust over their father and his obsessive behavior before?

[MOOCHIE]

It's "happy" for you to make fun of innocent children? It's Christmas and it's "happy" for you to be suspect of the goodness in people who want to take care of people who need help like a lot of us have during hard times?

DEFINE "HAPPY," since you're such judgmental, happy, ANONYMOUS people.

[SDGirl87]

Ya know, I THOUGHT it had been a little too pleasant, calm and undramatic around here.

Sadly, I think that "Moochie" is merely another plant, and not the real deal.

Regardless (yawn), welcome. :gle:

[oops]

No one here is making fun of the family. We are pleased with the generosity; but are discussing the excess and how better families could be served.

Go make FH something to eat; or grab some of those leftovers from Ranch Catering. That is if he's done with his massage.

[MOOCHIE]

If I wanted to FH's children in the middle of this like their mother has, knowing they are aware of this trash, I'd say more However, I respect them and won't put them in the middle of this nonsense. They are children. Come on.

[FormerSanDiegan]

Yeah, don't feed the troll. It's not Mooch and if it were, and she's read all this and STILL with the Tubster then... Yikes. *puke*

ETA - I think it's hilarious that she'd refer to her beloved cash cow as "FH". LOL

[Sapphie]

I agree with SDGirl...it's not Michelle

[iamsheens]

Moochie--Just wondering why you're still stuck under FH?

ROFL....SO FUNNY YET SO AMAZINGLY DISGUSTING...

[MOOCHIE]

I get what you're saying about wanting to give a little to more families, but this is something that is special to him. He's giving. A lot of people gave. So why sit there in judgment of where or how much or when it was given? Seriously? I'm not being rude or anything. I know you guys are all good people. I don't know what got you so mad at these guys (or me for that matter.) Doesn't it feel the least bit good to know that a family had one magical day today?

[GGmami]

This afternoon I went to my preschoolers first Christmas show/sing-a-long. I managed to arrive on-time, with freshly-baked cookies, and to top it off my daughter was dressed appropriately. I did all this even with a feverish 6 month old (he had his check-up and shots yesterday) after having worked all day yesterday (more than 4 hours...can you imagine?) We had a great time, but I was was distracted by out-of-control kids and their parents who sat back and watched calmly as they pulled all the hay out of the manger and threw it at each other during the performance.
I do have to admit to a LBM moment when I looked down at my daughter's shoes...apparently she seems to think that her shiny patent leather shoes look better with sand all over them. She played on the school play ground with her class before the show. Oh well, I guess I won't be mother of the year.:disa:

[iamsheens]

If I wanted to FH's children in the middle of this like their mother has, knowing they are aware of this trash, I'd say more However, I respect them and won't put them in the middle of this nonsense. They are children. Come on.

If this really were Michelle she wouldn't call herself moochie because then she would be admitting she is mooching off tommy...more power to you though if you are....it would take a lot of will power to get physical with him...if you need money and expensive gifts to get near him, well I don't blame you...but then doesn't that just make her a prostitute?

Well I guess not since the snoring is such a big issue....good excuse though...I would use every excuse in the book possible to get from being that close to him in a bed.:puke:

[oops]

If I wanted to FH's children in the middle of this like their mother has, knowing they are aware of this trash, I'd say more However, I respect them and won't put them in the middle of this nonsense. They are children. Come on.
FH puts his poor kids' lives in his blahhhgs for all SD to see (and for them to read). Like you said, "They are children. Come on."
Honey, they are aware of a lot more "trash" than this thread and sadly it's their lives with their father. Lucky for them they have their mom.

[iamsheens]

I get what you're saying about wanting to give a little to more families, but this is something that is special to him. He's giving. A lot of people gave. So why sit there in judgment of where or how much or when it was given? Seriously? I'm not being rude or anything. I know you guys are all good people. I don't know what got you so mad at these guys (or me for that matter.) Doesn't it feel the least bit good to know that a family had one magical day today?

I see what your saying but at the same time what is a family going to do with a cotton candy machine once they can no longer afford to buy the sugar or whatever contents are involved in making it?

The intentions are there and thats nice but they could have used all of that stuff and split it up for a few families...there is more than one family who is poor...

its nice that a family had a magical day its just in reality it looked like a lot of that stuff was just not practical for their day to day living....that is all we have been discussing.

[oops]

Yeah, don't feed the troll. It's not Mooch and if it were, and she's read all this and STILL with the Tubster then... Yikes. *puke*

ETA - I think it's hilarious that she'd refer to her beloved cash cow as "FH". LOL
True dat........God just for that mere fact, I hope it is her!

[iamsheens]

Yeah, don't feed the troll. It's not Mooch and if it were, and she's read all this and STILL with the Tubster then... Yikes. *puke*

ETA - I think it's hilarious that she'd refer to her beloved cash cow as "FH". LOL


LOL maybe she doesnt realize what FH stands for maybe she thinks it means fantastic handsome Tommy....:puke:

[GGmami]

I get what you're saying about wanting to give a little to more families, but this is something that is special to him. He's giving. A lot of people gave. So why sit there in judgment of where or how much or when it was given? Seriously? I'm not being rude or anything. I know you guys are all good people. I don't know what got you so mad at these guys (or me for that matter.) Doesn't it feel the least bit good to know that a family had one magical day today?

Is it magical to have too much stuff that you can never afford to use crammed in to already tight living quarters? I'm sure the family will sell much of it to pay bills and to buy food and clothes. Thats what I would do. I am happy for the families that are picked to be helped off the air, it seems like they get more practical gifts.

[YoungAmerican]

Moochie, NOT. If it were her she wouldn't call him FH or herself Moochie. FAKE, FAKE, FAKE. Come on, we're smarter than that.

[oops]

The magic and generous spirit of those giving of their time, energies and donations is wonderful. It's the manangement of all received and the distribution that's in question. Yes, it's good to share and give; I think all we're talking about is giving a little less to more families; and helping the families to help themselves.

[Layla]

Welcome new poster. A couple of things:

1. Stop acting like you're Michelle. If you were, you would not be referring to Tummy as FH.

2. Get a grip on reality. Why would you even want to pretend to be Mooch? Do you admire her or something? If so, seek mental health, or ask Tummy to pray for you.

3. They should have used some of the donation money to prepay utilities for a year or something. By them blankets, beds, warm jackets. Honestly, if I was that mom and that down and out I'd be pissed. Thankful for the thought, but pissed about the excess and the fact that I'd have to be explaining to my kids soon why I was selling most of this new stuff!

[SDGirl87]

It's "happy" for you to make fun of innocent children? It's Christmas and it's "happy" for you to be suspect of the goodness in people who want to take care of people who need help like a lot of us have during hard times?

DEFINE "HAPPY," since you're such judgmental, happy, ANONYMOUS people.


Actually, we're not anonymous. Several of us have gotten together a few times, and more events are planned. Timing has been our problem, not lack of interest in getting to know each other.

As for offering help to people who need it...we, the DC are in full agreement. DEFINITELY help those who need it...like those who lost their homes in the fires. Like those who have no food for their kids and could use grocery cards. Like those who have no health insurance and could use some medical bills paid. Like those who have lost their jobs this year due to the economy melt down in progress. Like those who have lost loved ones this year and are grieving.

Helping people isn't throwing expensive "stuff" at them, but rather getting into the trenches with them and helping them find their way, not with a hand out, but a hand up. HELP is securing their children's education, because education is EVERYTHING. HELP is making sure that the power isn't going to be cut off mid winter when it's cold and raining. HELP is replacing the tires on the car that they can afford to drive and insure. HELP is new shoes for worn out feet, warm sox, a pair of gloves and a jacket for the upcoming winter. HELP is insulating the home for the summer and winter months to cut down on electric bills. HELP is filling the gas tank a time or two. HELP is repairing or replacing an old appliance. HELP is the offer of a job so that a family can hold their head up high and take care of their own with pride and dignity.

HELP is NOT "stuff"...tv's, skateboards, jewlery, cotton candy makers, bikes, dvd's, bikes etc. HELP is not painted windows and a pretty Christmas tree.

Maybe we just define help differently. To me, HELP is defined as making a permanent difference, not putting an oversized, over loaded, over done bandaid on a problem and then walking away.

[Sapphie]

If I wanted to FH's children in the middle of this like their mother has, knowing they are aware of this trash, I'd say more However, I respect them and won't put them in the middle of this nonsense.
Anyone else spot the paradox here?

[iamsheens]

Welcome new poster. A couple of things:

1. Stop acting like you're Michelle. If you were, you would not be referring to Tummy as FH.

2. Get a grip on reality. Why would you even want to pretend to be Mooch? Do you admire her or something? If so, seek mental health, or ask Tummy to pray for you.

3. They should have used some of the donation money to prepay utilities for a year or something. By them blankets, beds, warm jackets. Honestly, if I was that mom and that down and out I'd be pissed. Thankful for the thought, but pissed about the excess and the fact that I'd have to be explaining to my kids soon why I was selling most of this new stuff!

lol my favorite line....ask tommy to pray for you...

[iamsheens]

Actually, we're not anonymous. Several of us have gotten together a few times, and more events are planned. Timing has been our problem, not lack of interest in getting to know each other.

As for offering help to people who need it...we, the DC are in full agreement. DEFINITELY help those who need it...like those who lost their homes in the fires. Like those who have no food for their kids and could use grocery cards. Like those who have no health insurance and could use some medical bills paid. Like those who have lost their jobs this year due to the economy melto down in progress. Like those who have lost loved ones this year and are grieving.

Helping people isn't throwing "stuff" at them, but rather getting into the trenches with them and helping them find their way out, not with a hand out, but a hand up. HELP is securing their children's future education, because education is EVERYTHING. HELP is making sure that the power isn't going to be cut off mid winter when it's cold and raining. HELP is replacing the tires on the car that they can afford to drive and insure. HELP is new shoes for worn out feet, warm sox, a pair of gloves and a jacket for the upcoming winter. HELP is insulating the home for the summer and winter months to cut down on electric bills. HELP is filling the gas tank a time or two. HELP is repairing or replacing an old appliance. HELP is the offer of a job so that a family can hold their head up high and take care of their own with pride and dignity.

HELP is NOT "stuff"...tv's, skateboards, jewlery, cotton candy makers, bikes, dvd's, bikes etc. HELP is not painted windows and a pretty Christmas tree.

Maybe we just define help differently. To me, HELP is defined as making a permanent difference, not putting an oversized, over loaded, over done bandaid on a problem and then walking away.

I agree and what is this teaching the kids of these families...when times are tough materialistic items and a few painted decorations on windows make everything better...sounds like great values....not!

[Sapphie]

SDGirl87:
Maybe we just define help differently. To me, HELP is defined as making a permanent difference, not putting an oversized, over loaded, over done bandaid on a problem and then walking away.
A loud hear, hear to SDGirl...very nicely and articulately put...kudos to you :)

[oops]

A Moochie wannabe? And I thought LBM was slummin' and gross for emulating Britany Spears' lifestyle!

[SDGirl87]

or ask Tummy to pray for you



LOLOL...DOGGONIT woman...I had milk in my mouth.

Where are the papertowels?

pssst...I was at church last night, praying. For real. On my knees and everything. Not Tubsy praying, but actually talking to God praying for people that I love, and situations that are challenging. It's not a casual thing to me...prayer.

[SDGirl87]

Anyone else spot the paradox here?

There are ducks here? Where? I don't see even one, let alone two!

Too much Sangria, apparently. :disa:

[iamsheens]

I like that moochie hasn't responded since we started explaining our reasoning...maybe she realized she is being irrational for being sad about our reasonings behind the way we feel...

prediction: tommy will blob about the mean people who don't appreciate what he does and the meaning behind breaking and entering, and Christmas...he will probably pray for us too...

[Sapphie]

There are ducks here? Where? I don't see even one, let alone two!

Too much Sangria, apparently. :disa:
Clever clogs :)...that was as good as Wabbit's "fox paws"

[oops]

Anyone watch "Trading Spaces"? Know how they come back 2 weeks later? That's what I'd like to see happen with the B&E families and hear what they sold, gave away, had to somehow get rid of because they didn't have room for or couldn't afford the maintanence on. Ask them what they loved getting; what helped/meant the most. What THEY'D recommend for next year.

[iamsheens]

MOOCHIE, where are you?

[Sapphie]

oops: great suggestion...good points..I agree

iamsheens: MOOCHIE doesn't want to play in our playground anymore... :(

[MOOCHIE]

I'm Michelle, Moochelle, Moochie, whatever else y'all feel like calling me. Believe me or not. I am not admitting to mooching or prostituting or anything else like it...obviously. I didn't respond to very hurtful things that were posted about me and my innocent children (even as inaccurate as they were.) There is only one person on here bthat I'm disturbed by, other than Tommy's ex-wife, who is bitter like many divorced people are. I can accept her anger, even if it is all about money (how ironic, huh?) Oh, yeah, one other ironic thing....MOOCHIE IS THE ONE WITH A J.O.B. "Amused" asks for more money than the ridiculous child support he gives her every month constantly instead of finding a job -- for the first time in uh...15 years. I'll go ahead and except that I'm the one digging for gold anyway. :)))) Funny. We'll forget the part about how when I was getting divorced seven years ago, I didn't make my husband "lose his shorts," I think she said. I worked during the day and went to nightschool so that we could live without my ex-husband supporting us. (Yeah, I've never received spousal support. And when I got my full-time job, I didn't even ask for child support. It's funny thinking about the posts she's made insulting me on this web site from her pajamas, while her kids are in school all day, and I'm at work earning a real living.

Any other questions? Believe me now?

[SDGirl87]

Ok, here's a serious question, when exactly DO you work, Michelle? We hear all the time about long lunches, walks when Tommy gets off of work, dinners, breakfast together, evenings out, etc...so when do you work? No one that I know has that much time off.

[oops]

I like that moochie hasn't responded since we started explaining our reasoning...maybe she realized she is being irrational for being sad about our reasonings behind the way we feel...

prediction: tommy will blob about the mean people who don't appreciate what he does and the meaning behind breaking and entering, and Christmas...he will probably pray for us too...
If by any stretch it was Michelle, she's gone to whine to FH that we are being mean to her and to all the nice people who did B&E today. He tells her it's okay, he has all our IP addresses and will begin calling our homes and leaving threatening messages right after they have pre-marital non-sex bed-sharing (yeah, uh huh) and she'll put in her ear plugs, take her Ambien and feel all better because big brave angelic FH will have protected her and reminded her of his awesome giving spirit and humble nurturing soul that she has come to love (because it ain't his looks--he's just growing bigger by the day, no matter how many vertical stripes she puts on him). zzzzzzzzzzz

[Carol]

I get what you're saying about wanting to give a little to more families, but this is something that is special to him. He's giving. A lot of people gave. So why sit there in judgment of where or how much or when it was given? Seriously? I'm not being rude or anything. I know you guys are all good people. I don't know what got you so mad at these guys (or me for that matter.) Doesn't it feel the least bit good to know that a family had one magical day today?

I will feed the troll.

Miss Mooche-

If you have been following along for weeks you might have seen that we all agreed that no matter how you slice it, Your tubbo *is* giving a family alot, and no matter how you slice it, he is doing something that is very kind.

However, if you would pull your head out of your arse you would see that the issues many people have with his "giving" have more to do with HIM than his actions.

1. He has to make a big deal out of how kind he is, what he has done for other people. He can not shut his trap and do something kind with out making sure he is patted on the head for it like a good doggie.
2. Many of the gifts he gave were very nice. However, they do not really DO much for the family. He did not help with a better job offer to help the family pull themselves out of the rut they are in, he did not offer money for an education....this family was given STUFF. Sure alot of it was very useful...and I am sure all of it was very appreciated but there was nothing there to end the cycle that this family is in, and next christmas, where will they most likely be?!? Still struggling.
No real difference has been made in their lives other than the fact that they have some cash, and extra things.

But you don't need to worry about them a year later do you? You can run off to get your manicure, and worry about how much spousal support the tubby will need to give you 2 years down the road. NOW THOSE ARE REAL PROBLEMS.


I will pray for you.

[iamsheens]

I'm Michelle, Moochelle, Moochie, whatever else y'all feel like calling me. Believe me or not. I am not admitting to mooching or prostituting or anything else like it...obviously. I didn't respond to very hurtful things that were posted about me and my innocent children (even as inaccurate as they were.) There is only one person on here bthat I'm disturbed by, other than Tommy's ex-wife, who is bitter like many divorced people are. I can accept her anger, even if it is all about money (how ironic, huh?) Oh, yeah, one other ironic thing....MOOCHIE IS THE ONE WITH A J.O.B. "Amused" asks for more money than the ridiculous child support he gives her every month constantly instead of finding a job -- for the first time in uh...15 years. I'll go ahead and except that I'm the one digging for gold anyway. :)))) Funny. We'll forget the part about how when I was getting divorced seven years ago, I didn't make my husband "lose his shorts," I think she said. I worked during the day and went to nightschool so that we could live without my ex-husband supporting us. (Yeah, I've never received spousal support. And when I got my full-time job, I didn't even ask for child support. It's funny thinking about the posts she's made insulting me on this web site from her pajamas, while her kids are in school all day, and I'm at work earning a real living.

Any other questions? Believe me now?

well the thing is that I'd like to *believe me* really like to believe you are who you say you are but you didn't really prove anything to us besides attacking Tommy's ex wife...great if u went to night school and supported your kids on your own, I can respect that but child support is to help raise kids properly...not to abuse the ex like you say Amused is doing...I don't know your situation and your ex's just like I don't know Tommy's situation with his ex...thats all of your guys personal business....but attacking Amused like you said she attacked you well that doesn't make you any better than her...

I'm not sure what your intentions are but we are always up for listening to what "insiders" have to say...I guess I just don't get why you would join a website that kinda bashes your soon to be husband...

[oops]

hmmmmm, so it's okay by FH for Michelle to come on and slam Amused, but he can't handle the info coming from the other direction?

[MOOCHIE]

Good question. After being divorced for five years, my ex and I tried to reconcile. We thought things were going great, planned on remarrying, bought a house, and found out I was pregnant with my third baby. Things didn't work out, and it turned out to be the hardest couple years of our lives. (I saw that you guys had fun with that as well.) Once the baby was born, I made an agreement with my ex-husband that he would help me with child support just long enough for me to job-share for the first couple years of her life. So I've been working half-time til next month when I'll go full-time again, most likely forever. Just wanted a little time with my baby. I'm sure you moms understand.

[MOOCHIE]

OOPs..(whoever you are) Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys. Believe me, he's way too nice. He is always respectful to Dannell.

[oops]

she's been lurking awhile...

welcome. hope you learn something. lots--that will save you and your kids all kinds of heartache in the future.

[iamsheens]

OOPs..(whoever you are) Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys. Believe me, he's way too nice. He is always respectful to Dannell.

Moochie I'm not trying to stir things up or make you mad...but....if he is always so respectful to Dannell why does he have a domestic abuse record? And why is he always making jabs at her? Why does she have to change her number so many times and why can't she tell him where she lives? Maybe you know the real truth here...

[oops]

OOPs..(whoever you are) Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys. Believe me, he's way too nice. He is always respectful to Dannell.
uh huh

[garybear]

OOPs..(whoever you are) Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys. Believe me, he's way too nice. He is always respectful to Dannell.

ummm...what is your point in all of this and why are you here? If you don't like what is being said...the way out is the "escape" button on your keyboard. You may want to keep that little shortcut for future reference in life. You may need to figure out how to "escape" one day.

[iamsheens]

ummm...what is your point in all of this and why are you here? If you don't like what is being said...the way out is the "escape" button on your keyboard. You may want to keep that little shortcut for future reference in life. You may need to figure out how to "escape" one day.


LOL!!!!!

OH THATS HILARIOUS!

[Sapphie]

Earlier the new poster mentioned having too much respect for Flubby's kids to say too much here because they read "this trash"....but not quite enough respect to refrain from trashing their mom

[Truth_Patrol]

I have a question ... "Amused" doesn't have a job? Huh ... weird. I wonder why she goes to work then? Strange. If this is truly Michelle, then you would know that she does have a job. Unless FH has spun a story on that. But then again ... FH never lies. Well, maybe every once in awhile, like everytime he opens his mouth. Obviously, I have known FH for quite some time and have seen him in action. If you believe anything he says about "Amused" then you are in for quite a ride. Believe me, FH wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face. I wish you much luck, you are going to need all you can get.

[MOOCHIE]

Carol, plllllllllllllllllllllease. Do you want to sit on this public (kinda) forum and divulge what you've given to anyone who needs help this Christmas? To talk about what happened today as if it's not good enough is absurd. Believe me, when it comes to praying, I've done a lot of that in my life and with regard to what I've read here. Keep praying, sister! It's definitely needed all across this board. :) And I appreciate the prayers you have for me and my family while some here have tried to purposely disrepect us before ever speaking with me. Might want to talk to God about the hate transpires here. I'm sure He'd be smiling down on all of this.

[Truth_Patrol]

OOPs..(whoever you are) Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys. Believe me, he's way too nice. He is always respectful to Dannell.


That's a great one!!! Are you trying to be funny???

[oops]

"Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys."
Just our little Secret?

[SDReadhead]

Here's what I'd say to her if she were really our newest DC member:
1) FH (as you now seem to call him, too) abused his former wife and committed adultery. What about that is attractive to you?

2) That fat pig should have had to pay spousal support; he had a stay-at-home mom who had to leave him for her safety and he voided the marriage vows when he cheated.

3) FH has some SERIOUS anger issues. We've seen his passive/aggressive anger in emails posted to various DC members. Let me just ask you this, Moochie -- was Knotts a fun trip? Want to sign up for a lifetime of that? The facade can only last so long.

4) You have kids. You don't have the right to put their physical or emotional welfare at risk while you follow some crazy fantasy. Grow up lady.

Anyway, it would be fun if Moochie would read this. Perhaps our newest troll will reply on her behalf.

[garybear]

Carol, plllllllllllllllllllllease. Do you want to sit on this public (kinda) forum and divulge what you've given to anyone who needs help this Christmas? To talk about what happened today as if it's not good enough is absurd. Believe me, when it comes to praying, I've done a lot of that in my life and with regard to what I've read here. Keep praying, sister! It's definitely needed all across this board. :) And I appreciate the prayers you have for me and my family while some here have tried to purposely disrepect us before ever speaking with me. Might want to talk to God about the hate transpires here. I'm sure He'd be smiling down on all of this.
Oh, I get it...you are here to teach us a lesson in getting to know someone before you actually speak about them. You must have written the book on "How to Meet and Fall in Love with a Guy in 10 Days" because you can learn all about someone in such a short time. I must remember to add that book to my Christmas list.

[Carol]

Carol, plllllllllllllllllllllease. Do you want to sit on this public (kinda) forum and divulge what you've given to anyone who needs help this Christmas? To talk about what happened today as if it's not good enough is absurd. Believe me, when it comes to praying, I've done a lot of that in my life and with regard to what I've read here. Keep praying, sister! It's definitely needed all across this board. :) And I appreciate the prayers you have for me and my family while some here have tried to purposely disrepect us before ever speaking with me. Might want to talk to God about the hate transpires here. I'm sure He'd be smiling down on all of this.

Sure I will talk about what I have given this holiday season, because all I have given is my spare change to the salvation army. I do not have the privilage to give money to anyone becuase I am hardley getting by myself. Oh but nice try, trying to make me look bad. Ass.

As for the prayer...again, if you were not fibbing, and you were reading along for the past months, you would realize, that your FI looovveess to pray for people. When they catch on to his bull****. Any god he prays to, must be having a good laugh. Cause I think we all know....no god would help that sad shell of a "man" out.

[iamsheens]

Carol, plllllllllllllllllllllease. Do you want to sit on this public (kinda) forum and divulge what you've given to anyone who needs help this Christmas? To talk about what happened today as if it's not good enough is absurd. Believe me, when it comes to praying, I've done a lot of that in my life and with regard to what I've read here. Keep praying, sister! It's definitely needed all across this board. :) And I appreciate the prayers you have for me and my family while some here have tried to purposely disrepect us before ever speaking with me. Might want to talk to God about the hate transpires here. I'm sure He'd be smiling down on all of this.


Moochie, maybe some of us can't help other with Christmas...carol and I for instance are college students...(well i just graduated so I guess I cant say that anymore!) but regardless just because we have the internet doesn't mean we have the money to help others, maybe we can hardly help ourselves...
No one has EVER taken away from the fact that what tommy does is good, it is good...we just think the way its handled could be more private and distributed better.

And I'm not a religious person but tommy isn't a Saint...he is not a perfect Christian (or whatever your religious belief is). He has emailed a few of us inappropriate emails...being rude and very "un-christian" like...I don't think its appropriate for a person who hardly goes to church to be praying for people...just because someone does good stuff in life doesn't always make them a good person...think of all the priests who spread the word of the gospel then go molest little kids, or the teachers who are supposed to be educating our children, but are giving them other lessons in life...you get my point I hope...

[SDGirl87]

Here's what I'd say to Michelle...

You are a beautiful woman. Your kids, from what pictures we've seen, are beautiful. You don't need a man to make you complete. Your kids need a full time Mom who is committed to them, and them alone at this time in their lives.

Tommy is an admitted player, an admitted drug user, an admitted heavy drinker, an admitted control freak, an admitted abuser and heaven knows what else. You don't need that sort of challenge in your life as a single Mom. You deserve so much better, and your kids do too.

None of us wants you to end up at Becky's house, hiding for your own safety, or worse. We mean no disrespect to you. We actually would like to see you get out before it's too late.

Sadly though, you'll shake your head at us, tell us we don't know what we're talking about and that he's changed. That's the way a battered woman always responds.

[BigAl]

Moochie = Sham Scam (only associates with "high profile" types which in turn = dinero, money, the benjamins, $$, the lifestyle that one has become accustomed to and doesn't want to lose it.

B&E radio bit = ratings. Nothing more than the game to be #1 (isn't that what it is all about?)

FH = Fabricator

LBM = MOTY (Mother of the Year)

[Carol]

Side note -

Did you hear about these women called "tag chasers" who chase after military men.


That seems so strange to me.

[BigAl]

Side note -

Did you hear about these women called "tag chasers" who chase after military men.


That seems so strange to me.


Never heard of that term, but being one of them, I can see why.
Steady employment, bennies, PX, Commissary, etc.
I don't fall for the line though.

[RedWillow]

And the family faux pas thing... kind of different. Things that effect only your family are one thing, but when it effects an entire audience of people and a group of kids who worked hard on their performance, that is another. There are lots of family things that become funny stories later on. Rehab and destroying your family don't really count. Ruining a Christmas pageant for the rest of the parents doesn't count! There is a difference between faux pas and socially unacceptable. I don't see anyone in LBM's family laughing at her mistakes, except for maybe her.

Having spent 8 years working at an elementary school, I can assure you that every kid is making faces at their parents, and every parent is only watching their own child. Actually, every parent is elbowing other parents out of the way to get their child's picture. It's kinda what makes it a pageant. :cheers:

So, here is my Christmas pageant story. I was in the third grade, and scored a featured role....Uncle Sam! Yeah, I'm a girl, but I had lines dag nab it!

I wore my special Christmas dress. Special, because I was a poor child being raised by a single Mom. (Hey, Flubby shouldn't be the only one to play the poor card, right?) The only problem? My costume was two pieces.....a vest and pants. Did you catch that? A VEST! Yup, no shirt, and I didn't bring a shirt. I didn't have a note to bring a shirt, nor did my Mother think to bring a shirt.

Now, as a third grader, I did not have anything to cover, but I was old enough to be quite embarrassed! Lucky for me, I grew up In Wisconsin, and everyone dresses in layers! One of my friends offered me his undershirt, and I was spared the indignity of being bare under a Stars and Stripes vest!

Now, pass the Razzleberry dressing! :D

[iamsheens]

Moochie maybe you could answer us all one simple question...what do you see in Tommy that makes you want to marry him? We've told you the reason why we don't understand this relationship...maybe you could explain to us all those little quirks you love about tommy...

[RedWillow]

I am an alumnus of CVHS and I lived in CV for over ten years. It's not "da hood."

Go Spartans!

[oops]

Moochie maybe you could answer us all one simple question...what do you see in Tommy that makes you want to marry him? We've told you the reason why we don't understand this relationship...maybe you could explain to us all those little quirks you love about tommy...
this should be interesting...entertaining...enlightening...

[BebeSD]

If this really were Michelle she wouldn't call herself moochie because then she would be admitting she is mooching off tommy...more power to you though if you are....it would take a lot of will power to get physical with him...if you need money and expensive gifts to get near him, well I don't blame you...but then doesn't that just make her a prostitute?

Well I guess not since the snoring is such a big issue....good excuse though...I would use every excuse in the book possible to get from being that close to him in a bed.:puke:

...Still have a few pages to go before I'm caught up, so forgive me if I am D-berting this, but "Moochie" also wouldn't call her fiance "FH" - right?

[iamsheens]

assuming she responds...she seems to be off the radar....not responding to anyone...maybe tommy caught her and sent her to bed with no dinner or something...

[RedWillow]

If this really were Michelle she wouldn't call herself moochie because then she would be admitting she is mooching off tommy...more power to you though if you are....

I don't think she'd call him FH either, since it stands for Fat Head? Unless that's a confirmation?

**wonders if there is a Dr Evil smilie anywhere**
:cheers:

I have to take exception with calling coffee a luxury...it is a staple dag nab it! :santa:

[BebeSD]

LOL maybe she doesnt realize what FH stands for maybe she thinks it means fantastic handsome Tommy....:puke:

Yeah. I need to read more before I prematurely post. Sorry! :disa:

[iamsheens]

I don't think she'd call him FH either, since it stands for Fat Head? Unless that's a confirmation?

**wonders if there is a Dr Evil smilie anywhere**
:cheers:

I have to take exception with calling coffee a luxury...it is a staple dag nab it! :santa:


FH does = fat head

Maybe coffee is a luxury to me because I don't drink it so I could live without it...

[oops]

maybe Moochie could get Laura to join us. that would add a lot of insight! :) She'd just have to promise to keep our little Secret.

[Layla]

First of all MICHELLE, not a single one of us has to sit on here and tell of all the nice things we've done for people this holiday season. We don't need the praise and attention that Tommy and the rest of you live on. With as much money as that whole sham of a show makes, they should have been buying these gifts with THEIR OWN MONEY instead of taking donations. Tommy gets all the credit and glory for money and gift donated by other people, volunteers whose names will never be mentioned. People who have NO REASON to do it but to be nice and loveing and caring. But who get's the glory? Tommy. And there "you" are, in the pics, smiling as if you had anything to do with it. You both make me sick.

[oops]

assuming she responds...she seems to be off the radar....not responding to anyone...maybe tommy caught her and sent her to bed with no dinner or something...
That implies that FH might be controlling and abusive. Besides, he'd never send her to bed without getting his dinner first!

[zodiac]

Hi Moochie, welcome!! :wavey2:
Why are you here?
What do you hope to get out of your involement here?
Why hasn't FH blobbed in 3.5 days?
How do you really feel about Laura?
Do you mind that they (supposedly) slept together? Are they still?
And FH doesn't know you're here? Yeah, right!

Please enlighten us all! Thanks :cheers:

[RedWillow]

I'm Michelle, Moochelle, Moochie, whatever else y'all feel like calling me. Believe me or not. I am not admitting to mooching or prostituting or anything else like it...obviously. I didn't respond to very hurtful things that were posted about me and my innocent children (even as inaccurate as they were.) There is only one person on here bthat I'm disturbed by, other than Tommy's ex-wife, who is bitter like many divorced people are. I can accept her anger, even if it is all about money (how ironic, huh?) Oh, yeah, one other ironic thing....MOOCHIE IS THE ONE WITH A J.O.B. "Amused" asks for more money than the ridiculous child support he gives her every month constantly instead of finding a job -- for the first time in uh...15 years. I'll go ahead and except that I'm the one digging for gold anyway. :)))) Funny. We'll forget the part about how when I was getting divorced seven years ago, I didn't make my husband "lose his shorts," I think she said. I worked during the day and went to nightschool so that we could live without my ex-husband supporting us. (Yeah, I've never received spousal support. And when I got my full-time job, I didn't even ask for child support. It's funny thinking about the posts she's made insulting me on this web site from her pajamas, while her kids are in school all day, and I'm at work earning a real living.

Any other questions? Believe me now?

But, since you work for a Family Court Judge, you know that California uses a formula to determine support......right?

And I believe you mean accept?

[oops]

Are they (J&J) off the air tomorrow; on vaca? Is B&E their big Christmas send-off?

[oops]

"I have to take exception with calling coffee a luxury...it is a staple dag nab it!" Life blood.......hellllloooooo!

[RedWillow]

Here's one of my favorite charities. ;)

http://www.shopwithacopsandiego.com/

[ElizabethAZ]

Here's what I'd say to Michelle...

You are a beautiful woman. Your kids, from what pictures we've seen, are beautiful. You don't need a man to make you complete. Your kids need a full time Mom who is committed to them, and them alone at this time in their lives.

Tommy is an admitted player, an admitted drug user, an admitted heavy drinker, an admitted control freak, an admitted abuser and heaven knows what else. You don't need that sort of challenge in your life as a single Mom. You deserve so much better, and your kids do too.

None of us wants you to end up at Becky's house, hiding for your own safety, or worse. We mean no disrespect to you. We actually would like to see you get out before it's too late.

Sadly though, you'll shake your head at us, tell us we don't know what we're talking about and that he's changed. That's the way a battered woman always responds.

Well said, SDGirl. Michelle, whether you are "Moochie" or if you are still just lurking, we really do just feel sorry for you and we hope that you will realize what you have gotten yourself into while you still have time to walk away.

You need to consider your children and what is best for them--while it might be nice for them to have a stepdad, he is NOT the one. For you or for anyone.

Run Michelle Run!!

[califbrat]

Actually, we're not anonymous. Several of us have gotten together a few times, and more events are planned. Timing has been our problem, not lack of interest in getting to know each other.

As for offering help to people who need it...we, the DC are in full agreement. DEFINITELY help those who need it...like those who lost their homes in the fires. Like those who have no food for their kids and could use grocery cards. Like those who have no health insurance and could use some medical bills paid. Like those who have lost their jobs this year due to the economy melt down in progress. Like those who have lost loved ones this year and are grieving.

Helping people isn't throwing expensive "stuff" at them, but rather getting into the trenches with them and helping them find their way, not with a hand out, but a hand up. HELP is securing their children's education, because education is EVERYTHING. HELP is making sure that the power isn't going to be cut off mid winter when it's cold and raining. HELP is replacing the tires on the car that they can afford to drive and insure. HELP is new shoes for worn out feet, warm sox, a pair of gloves and a jacket for the upcoming winter. HELP is insulating the home for the summer and winter months to cut down on electric bills. HELP is filling the gas tank a time or two. HELP is repairing or replacing an old appliance. HELP is the offer of a job so that a family can hold their head up high and take care of their own with pride and dignity.

HELP is NOT "stuff"...tv's, skateboards, jewlery, cotton candy makers, bikes, dvd's, bikes etc. HELP is not painted windows and a pretty Christmas tree.

Maybe we just define help differently. To me, HELP is defined as making a permanent difference, not putting an oversized, over loaded, over done bandaid on a problem and then walking away.

I'm alittle late with this..reading a few pages back BUT perfectly said Girl.. us mom's just doing the regular thing taking care of our flock the best we can and most of the time its great and full of laughter & joy!

[oops]

If they were at different houses (or just on different computers)and FH began lurking, he may have caught his beloved on-line with us and yanked her a$$ off. Moochie, you got some 'splainin to do!

[califbrat]

OOPs..(whoever you are) Tommy doesn't know what I'm saying to you guys. Believe me, he's way too nice. He is always respectful to Dannell.


WAHT?? DON'T THINK SO

[ElizabethAZ]

Since nobody posted the B&E pictures or LBM's outfit, I had to suck it up and go to the site.

~ Her outfit is truly gross.
~ Please tell me that in the last B&E picture, that is not a picture of EDDIE on the skateboard!!
~ Why are there so many people there?

[califbrat]

LOL!!!!!

OH THATS HILARIOUS!

Moochie I'm not trying to stir things up or make you mad...but....if he is always so respectful to Dannell why does he have a domestic abuse record? And why is he always making jabs at her? Why does she have to change her number so many times and why can't she tell him where she lives? Maybe you know the real truth here


Good Posts Iamsheens!

[oops]

"Run Michelle Run!!" Totally agree; (besides he'll never catch you!) Seriously, the message here is: Beware and be aware. there's info here for you and better opportunities out there for you and most importantly your children.

[iamsheens]

i had lots of good posts but mooch has vanished!

[SDGirl87]

Interesting, it says that Moochie joined on December 7th. That was 13 days ago. Very interesting.

G'night!

ps...someone PM me a word for the day for tomorrow!

[oops]

"...obviously. I didn't respond to very hurtful things that were posted about me and my innocent children (even as inaccurate as they were.) There is only one person on here bthat I'm disturbed by, other than Tommy's ex-wife, who is bitter like many divorced people are. I can accept her anger, even if it is all about money (how ironic, huh?)"

So which of our invisible friends is she pissy with? The one that was having unpleasant interactions with FH and had to involve counsel for advice? hmmm One would think that would give a person reason to pause...

[oops]

[QUOTE=SDGirl87]Interesting, it says that Moochie joined on December 7th. That was 13 days ago. Very interesting.

She said she found us a month ago; but references posts from way before then. She may have signed up a few weeks ago, but has been reading over FH's shoulder (if that's who she really is).

[GirlfromOR]

I get what you're saying about wanting to give a little to more families, but this is something that is special to him. He's giving. A lot of people gave. So why sit there in judgment of where or how much or when it was given? Seriously? I'm not being rude or anything. I know you guys are all good people. I don't know what got you so mad at these guys (or me for that matter.) Doesn't it feel the least bit good to know that a family had one magical day today?

No, it doesn't feel good knowing they had one magical day today because the magic is fleeting. The bottom line is that this family doesn't have a pot to pee in or a window to throw it out of. Until recently they were living in their CAR! The parents see their children so happy and are probably happy too, but the magic of today doesn't erase their reality. Their reality is that maybe next month they won't be able to afford the rent and they will have to leave the house and all of their belongings behind. Don't you wonder why their house was empty to begin with? Where is all of their stuff? It got left behind last time they had to sneak out to avoid eviction. THAT is what they worry about! The mom doesn't worry, "what pendant should I wear today." She worries about how it will damage her kids when she has to tell them to pick one item each because they can't take it all with them. So yay! FH made a magical day for a family but that doesn't even begin to undo the liftime of hardship that they face.

[GGmami]

[QUOTE=SDGirl87]Interesting, it says that Moochie joined on December 7th. That was 13 days ago. Very interesting.

She said she found us a month ago; but references posts from way before then. She may have signed up a few weeks ago, but has been reading over FH's shoulder (if that's who she really is).

I was wondering the same thing. If she found us a month ago how would she even know about Amused? Hasn't she been gone for a month now?

[oops]

liar, liar........sleeping next to each other (but not having sex, only praying for our souls that know the truth.....)

[Mom2ThreeBoys]

She may have been lurking for a while. You can read this board even if you're not logged in.

That said, I don't believe it's really her. Surf's up, dude!

[GGmami]

I'm confused. The Christmas tree in the pics outside was one with fake snow, but the pic of the decorated tree inside was a regular green tree. Can someone explain?

[ElizabethAZ]

[QUOTE=SDGirl87]Interesting, it says that Moochie joined on December 7th. That was 13 days ago. Very interesting.

She said she found us a month ago; but references posts from way before then. She may have signed up a few weeks ago, but has been reading over FH's shoulder (if that's who she really is).

If you change your screen name, does it show up? Maybe she was here as someone else before, and just now changed her name to Moochie.

[oops]

The family had their own tree already so they left it in the house has it was; B&E had brought a flocked one and left it out in the front yard......thought that was weird (who has a Christmas tree in their front yard? And doesn't that just "mark" the house that much more for "hoodlums" who might want to get a new flat screen, a couple grand or a Wii?) Sorry, losing all the magic of the day...

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Okay - I'm backtracking to a few posts earlier today about Candy Cane Lane in Chula Vista (Guava Avenue).

I lived on Guava Avenue from 1986 to 1998 and participated in Candy Cane Lane from 1986 through it's end in 1996. It was a magical time - not only for those that came by the hundreds of thousands to view it but also for the residents that got to enjoy the reactions and share the holiday spirit.

I actually even talked to Jeff & Jer on-air about Candy Cane Lane in the early 90's to try to dispell some of the myths about the street....

No, the Boy Scouts didn't come out and set it up each year (the residents took a full Saturday to put it up and another half day to take it down)

No, the City didn't pay (or supplement) our electrical bills. We paid for everything ourselves. Every couple of years each house would be assessed a "fee" to cover replacement of worn or damaged decorations (new bows, new wooden candy canes for the palm trees, etc.)

No, it wasn't "mandatory" to decorate your home - but the peer pressure was relentless :) You didn't go to Home Depot or Lowe's to buy inflatables, chasing lights or laser optic fancy stuff - you MADE decorations from plywood and paint. It was time consuming and not cheap!

For close to three weeks each December, the residents of Candy Cane Lane were virtual prisoners after 5 p.m. each night. We planned our lives around getting through the traffic. We parked "out" at the City Center parking lot behind the Police Station. We put up with garbage and loud stereos and kids poking around in our decorations. And we loved every minute of it :)

And finally, the reason the street stopped decorating (and it was decided by a vote by each and every resident) was because all the wiring was ORIGINAL from the 1950's and was in desperate need of replacement (which would have cost thousands of dollars - and the block refused to accept outside money or be sponsored to continue the tradition). I am truly surprised that the Fire Department didn't shut us down years before we voted to stop decorating. For the record, I voted to keep decorating!

[GirlfromOR]

Since nobody posted the B&E pictures or LBM's outfit, I had to suck it up and go to the site.

~ Her outfit is truly gross.
~ Please tell me that in the last B&E picture, that is not a picture of EDDIE on the skateboard!!
~ Why are there so many people there?

I saw the pictures earlier this afternoon and THOUGHT that it was Eddie on the skateboards but I wasn't sure... until you mentioned it! I think it is!! WTF is that about? "My kid is better than yours because his face is on the free skateboard your kid is riding on!"

[MOOCHIE]

Layla, Merry Christmas to you, too. Keep doing what you're doing. How's it workin' for you?

Redheadedteacher/Proofreader: Thanks! My proofreader usually charges me .35/page. I work for a Superior Court Judge. You were close, but he does not work in Family Court. I've worked enough in those departments to have learned how much money gets wasted on nonsense that can be computed through their standard calculation. My ex and I handled it on our own throughout most of the past seven years. He's a great father, and I value the relationship he has with our three beautiful children. I have nothing but respect him, and we've raised the kids holding each other in a positive light no matter how difficult times were for us. I know that we could go parade through family court to wrestle over dollars and cents whenever we want to, but I'm at peace with us doing it on our own whenever I'm working full-time. What was your question, again? :| I'm tired. I forgot.

Anyway, I appreciate the private messages that you guys keep sending me saying nice things that you don't want to say in front of everyone else. Some of you seem concerned more than mean. I just wish you would realize how off this whole board is. It's based on a slight bit of truth, and then it gets distorted into craziness.

As far as Tommy and Dannell go, as with any divorce, only those two truly know what went on. I don't want to go into it more than to say that I spoke up earlier tonight to defend myself against the repulsive accusations made by someone I don't personally know. I've been nothing but respectful to her and was saddened to read what she was posting for me for months. Shocked, actually. She denies being here by the way.

Laura gets robbed in here. Period. She's gone through hell and has fought hard and strong to be healthy. She honestly has never visited this site though she's heard about it. She knows better than to torture herself with negativity from people who don't know her. She's got the majority on her side. :) She's so much smarter and sweeter than you know. Charlie is an angel that treats everyone with respect. He reminds me of my Zach. You know the one some of you made fun of for being visually impaired. (I honestly can't go there. He's the purest person I've ever met. I hope all of you get to meet someone half as innocent as the boy you teased.) I'm still so confused by that. Who makes fun of a child's disabilties? Conceptis, of all horrible things I ran across on here, the only one I am concerned with is you. :disa:

Boris, shame on the things that you have said about innocent children. It's honestly sickening. GET HELP. :)

Thank God some of you worship Amused enough to leave Tommy's kids alone.

All of these kids are sweet and innocent. Make fun of my wrinkles or who I've dated or what you think my motives are for being with Tommy. Just please be nice with the kids...especially when you are aware the older ones read this. That's really all I ask.

Good night...

[oops]

Kids are innocent and to be protected and respected always.

Which is why we think you should re-think who it is you are deciding to name "Stepdaddy" to your precious ones. Look at his history and carefully consider the relationships (or lack there of) he has with his own children.

[GirlfromOR]

So, it doesn't concern you a bit that Tommy has been in trouble for domestic abuse, or that people have posted emails FROM HIM that are harrassing in nature? Do you think we are all making it up? Doesn't it concern you that he blatently LIES in his blogs?

[MOOCHIE]

Like I said, there are two sides of the story. I honestly don't want to say more than that without having been there and without accusing someone else of something I didn't witness.

[GirlfromOR]

Geez, you work in the courts, you should be able to look up Tommy's record yourself. Doesn't it make you scratch your head and wonder what you are getting involved with? It amazes me that you have all of the information, yet still choose to get involved. He's still the same person, you just haven't pissed him off enough yet.

[iamsheens]

Layla, Merry Christmas to you, too. Keep doing what you're doing. How's it workin' for you?

Redheadedteacher/Proofreader: Thanks! My proofreader usually charges me .35/page. I work for a Superior Court Judge. You were close, but he does not work in Family Court. I've worked enough in those departments to have learned how much money gets wasted on nonsense that can be computed through their standard calculation. My ex and I handled it on our own throughout most of the past seven years. He's a great father, and I value the relationship he has with our three beautiful children. I have nothing but respect him, and we've raised the kids holding each other in a positive light no matter how difficult times were for us. I know that we could go parade through family court to wrestle over dollars and cents whenever we want to, but I'm at peace with us doing it on our own whenever I'm working full-time. What was your question, again? :| I'm tired. I forgot.

Anyway, I appreciate the private messages that you guys keep sending me saying nice things that you don't want to say in front of everyone else. Some of you seem concerned more than mean. I just wish you would realize how off this whole board is. It's based on a slight bit of truth, and then it gets distorted into craziness.

As far as Tommy and Dannell go, as with any divorce, only those two truly know what went on. I don't want to go into it more than to say that I spoke up earlier tonight to defend myself against the repulsive accusations made by someone I don't personally know. I've been nothing but respectful to her and was saddened to read what she was posting for me for months. Shocked, actually. She denies being here by the way.

Laura gets robbed in here. Period. She's gone through hell and has fought hard and strong to be healthy. She honestly has never visited this site though she's heard about it. She knows better than to torture herself with negativity from people who don't know her. She's got the majority on her side. :) She's so much smarter and sweeter than you know. Charlie is an angel that treats everyone with respect. He reminds me of my Zach. You know the one some of you made fun of for being visually impaired. (I honestly can't go there. He's the purest person I've ever met. I hope all of you get to meet someone half as innocent as the boy you teased.) I'm still so confused by that. Who makes fun of a child's disabilties? Conceptis, of all horrible things I ran across on here, the only one I am concerned with is you. :disa:

Boris, shame on the things that you have said about innocent children. It's honestly sickening. GET HELP. :)

Thank God some of you worship Amused enough to leave Tommy's kids alone.

All of these kids are sweet and innocent. Make fun of my wrinkles or who I've dated or what you think my motives are for being with Tommy. Just please be nice with the kids...especially when you are aware the older ones read this. That's really all I ask.

Good night...

I agree with the kids....I wasn't aware your child had visual problems and if someone did make fun of that, shame on them...I don't really agree with making fun of children, especially the younger ones. Even if you, tommy, and laura could all be screw up parents (which I doubt you all are) the kids have no control over their parents or the situation they are in.

And Michelle, maybe Laura is sweet and smart but she doesn't portray herself that way in her blogs. She locked her kids in a cabinet and called it a game. We hardly are making things up about Laura, she supplies us with all the information in her life, all the mistakes she is making as a parent in her blogs. If she didn't want to be criticized she should pay more attention to what she writes. We never doubted that she loved her kids, we can tell she does but based on her blogs she seems to think of herself over his kids.

[GirlfromOR]

You'd only know one side of the story (Tommy's version), so what you know has been spun by him to make himself look like the innocent one. But you don't have to accuse anyone of anything to say whether a record of restraining orders against Tommy is concerning to you. A simple yes or no works. Of course, you'll probably say no because that is what you have to say to keep the love alive.

[iamsheens]

Like I said, there are two sides of the story. I honestly don't want to say more than that without having been there and without accusing someone else of something I didn't witness.

So you rather be in a potential situation like some of the other girlfriends and wives have been in before you believe its true? Seems like your putting yourself in danger...maybe he's changed but what if he hasn't? Your willing to put yourself and potentially your kids in a questionable situation? If you are who you say you are well you seem nice and smart, that's why we all don't understand this situation...

[GirlfromOR]

Sheens, I agree! Maybe he HAS changed. But getting engaged 6 weeks or whatever after meeting him, and bringing the children in to the mix... It's just not enough time to know if he has changed.

[iamsheens]

Sheens, I agree! Maybe he HAS changed. But getting engaged 6 weeks or whatever after meeting him, and bringing the children in to the mix... It's just not enough time to know if he has changed.

Exactly...I'm not a parent but if I was dating someone and had kids and had been told the man I was dating was arrested or whatever for domestic abuse well I'd really re-consider things...I mean its one thing if you put yourself through that sort of relationship but no child should ever have to see or experience that traumatic event. I mean what ever Michelle wants to do is her own decision but we only post concerns because believe it or not we are actually concerned for you but especially your kids...it may be hard to believe but its the truth...maybe not everyone will agree but children's safety is important and this is serious because so many parents have kids on this board....

[MOOCHIE]

One last thing I'll say is, no one in Tommy's family is afraid of him. I've been around for six months (not years, I know) and can promise you that. Hope you have a good rest of the night. Moooooooooooooochellle OUT. ;)

[iamsheens]

Maybe if Moochie is who she says she is...well maybe she just has a good sense of humor about the names we've come up with everyone...just a thought....maybe she lovingly refers to Tommy's as FH each night....maybe we've only helped them bond closer by the silly names we've come up for them...doubtful but...maybe we are the reason this relationship has blossomed...haha...ok i am delirious... night all!!!

[GirlfromOR]

This has been a very entertaining night thus far. I work nights and usually there is no one on when I'm on. I like this!

[GirlfromOR]

One last thing I'll say is, no one in Tommy's family is afraid of him. I've been around for six months (not years, I know) and can promise you that. Hope you have a good rest of the night. Moooooooooooooochellle OUT. ;)

If he's such a family guy, why wasn't he at Amanda's wedding? He said he was going and came up w/ an elaborate lie to make it look like he went, but I saw all of the pics (as did numerous people here) and he wasn't there. When I emailed him and told him to cut the crap, he got really angry.

[11th Reader]

Goodness, I leave for a few days to travel back to San Diego and I come back to THIS?!?! I can't leave you guys alone at all, can I?!?!

First off, welcome Moochie to the board. I supposed I have as much reason to believe you are who you say you are as I believed Amused was who she said she was. Either way...it doesn't really matter to me. I understand that this board is a discussion area for the Spewgram, and you're welcome to join us...as long as you understand the purpose of this forum is not in any way a fan site or a "we love FH club." As long as you accept that, we can accept you.

Additionally, I agree with what the others were saying about B&E...the spirit of Christmas is not about getting recognition and praise for the good you do, it's about doing the good. I love that FH and the spewgram do B&E and that they help an unfortunate family, that's great, but I agree that there are better ways to help and use their "big deal" status of doing it (like actually fundraising for the 3 Day!). I remember listening last year and they had gotten the family a Playstation 3 and a new car and I thought, "really...if the kids have to stay awake to patrol the house because their dad or someone would try to break in...why would flashing a new car and playstation 3 do them any good?" Anyhow...I agree with Iamsheens...gift cards, money for gas/food is a better option than snowboards and a cotton candy machine (did they really give that as a gift...why would you even think that's pratical?!?!)

Anyhow, Moochie, we're honestly just here for the gossip (well, not true, I'm here for the friends as well)...we enjoyed Amused because she gave us the gossip and "her side." You're welcome to give us your side as well.

Oh, and because FH is a big deal and I want to be a big deal too, I'm telling you guys that my good deeds of the week (that's right...week...I do weekly good deeds...I'm THAT big of a deal!) were that I sent my DC buddies a surprise box of goodies for the super secret meeting, donated money to a few more 3 Day walkers, and signed up to sponsor a little 4 year old girl for Christmas. I am now basking in your adulation!

[SDReadhead]

Redheadedteacher/Proofreader: Thanks! My proofreader usually charges me .35/page. I work for a Superior Court Judge. You were close, but he does not work in Family Court. I've worked enough in those departments to have learned how much money gets wasted on nonsense that can be computed through their standard calculation. My ex and I handled it on our own throughout most of the past seven years. He's a great father, and I value the relationship he has with our three beautiful children. I have nothing but respect him, and we've raised the kids holding each other in a positive light no matter how difficult times were for us. I know that we could go parade through family court to wrestle over dollars and cents whenever we want to, but I'm at peace with us doing it on our own whenever I'm working full-time. What was your question, again? :| I'm tired. I forgot.


I guess you must be tired and have forgotten my question, because I don't even know what you are talking about. I never mentioned your ex or your finances. I asked how you could want to marry someone with a history of adultery or domestic abuse. It had nothing to do with proof reading or money.

Michelle, if you really do love Tommy Sablan, please stop reading this board; it can only end up making you feel bad. We don't love him. We resent him and the others on the show for perpetrating a sham. We don't share their values. We don't admire them. We all know that Laura loves her kids. But she is a major screw up and most of us are parents and many of us are teachers and children mean a lot to us. It pains us to read about how she messes up those kids. I'm sure Charlie is polite. I wish he never had to witness the horror of addiction and how it shreds a family.

So, if you won't take our advice (sure, we're strangers, but you got engaged to a near-stranger, so I'm just sayin'...), then at least stop swimming around in our muck that we rake. But if you do continue to read, please know that it is pointless to try to convince most of us that Tommy is not a self-centered, ill-tempered lout.

[NewAgeGoddess]

I'm back!!!! Ended up sick on my trip. Bronchitis!!! Still in recovery. It's going to take me a couple of days to get through the 30 pages to catch up.

[oops]

Moochie maybe you could answer us all one simple question...what do you see in Tommy that makes you want to marry him? We've told you the reason why we don't understand this relationship...maybe you could explain to us all those little quirks you love about tommy...
Anyone notice how this never got answered?
No one in his family is afraid of him? hmmmm Wonder how many "like" him and want to really spend time with him?...he's mentioned numerous times in his own blahhhg about the strained relationships he has with his sisters.

Beware and be aware; kids are involved.

[oops]

Like I said, there are two sides of the story. I honestly don't want to say more than that without having been there and without accusing someone else of something I didn't witness.
No you weren't there, but you do have access to the court docs that indicate domestic abuse and restraining orders...
He doesn't tell the truth (refer back to the posts about Amanda's wedding); he can't commit to anyone or anything (how's that weight loss coming? how's not drinking going?...we see the pics of concerts; he gets pissed if you get too much attention from guys but he's scheming and oogling Charger Girls and flirting with any female that comes into the station). Yeah, you've got yourself a winner. Two suggestions: make sure you're well taken care of in that pre-nup and/or get your name on the waiting list at Becky's House.

[insightbyjake]

Carol, plllllllllllllllllllllease. Do you want to sit on this public (kinda) forum and divulge what you've given to anyone who needs help this Christmas? To talk about what happened today as if it's not good enough is absurd. Believe me, when it comes to praying, I've done a lot of that in my life and with regard to what I've read here. Keep praying, sister! It's definitely needed all across this board. :) And I appreciate the prayers you have for me and my family while some here have tried to purposely disrepect us before ever speaking with me. Might want to talk to God about the hate transpires here. I'm sure He'd be smiling down on all of this.

Wow!! That is one hostile chick!

Junior high meets divorced mom. Just how much anger can a bleached-blonde, money-chaser build up?

Memo to angered-self-righteous-"I-can-explain-myself-if-you-fools-only-knew-the-truth" praying mom: Those clowns you defend are not real. They are pretentious, wealthy, "it's-all-about-me," celebrities who play the role of "common man."

You, it seems, are a chaser of pretentious, wealthy, "it's-all-about-me," celebrities.

And you rage against the obvious?

Wow!

The best part of your posts? The, "My Ex is the greatest father in the world."

I love reading the posts of people who praise their ex and pretend to be civil by citing the qualities that make the "ex" a great parent -- all the while failing to define the qualities that show what ruined the marriage. How is it, Moo-girl, the best dad ever can also be be the worst husband ever?

Maybe Amused could enlighten you -- oh wait!

In her distorted world, FH sucked at husband and father. (And you can't give her credit for consistency?)

Moo-dog's unspoken truth:

"My ex is the best father in the world,....but that S.O.B. was the worst lover and cheapest, meanest, cruelest, piece of crap any woman could meet."

The most obscene line in your posts Moo-dog?

"All of these kids are sweet and innnocent"

BULLSH*T.

All of these kids are damaged because they have pathetic, weak-willed, inconsistent, immoral, drug or alcohol addicted, multiple-spoused, hypocritical, abusive, self-righteous, "defend-myself-on-a-stupid-thread-cause-I'm-afraid-I'll-look-the-fool," it's-all-about-me, arrogant, mindless, adults pretending to be parents.

But, then again, Moo-girl, I could be wrong.

[GirlfromOR]

Yeah, she's not answering any questions re: his abusive past and his cheating ways. She just skips around it by asking another question. At least Amused answered our questions. She did PM me and ask if I dated Tommy and if he threatened me (after I posted about his harrassment).

[insightbyjake]

One last thing I'll say is, no one in Tommy's family is afraid of him. I've been around for six months (not years, I know) and can promise you that. Hope you have a good rest of the night. Moooooooooooooochellle OUT. ;)

I so desperately want to believe this line:

"One last thing I'll say...."

Really?

Promise?

"Fly, fly, fly Clarisse, fly fly, fly."

[MOOCHIE]

Men spend time here too? Wow.

[Newer Reader]

I so desperately want to believe this line:

"One last thing I'll say...."

Really?

Promise?

"Fly, fly, fly Clarisse, fly fly, fly."

Ohhhhhh...I just watched that again. I think. Must google. If I'm right, it's definitely not Sean Connery.

NR #26

[insightbyjake]

It's "happy" for you to make fun of innocent children? It's Christmas and it's "happy" for you to be suspect of the goodness in people who want to take care of people who need help like a lot of us have during hard times?

DEFINE "HAPPY," since you're such judgmental, happy, ANONYMOUS people.

"..take care of people who need help like a lot of us during hard times?"
Generally speaking, people need more help in hard times than easy times. That said, Moo-girl, just who is "us?"

Who do you "represent?" The down-trodden, the "afflicted," the "oppressed?"

You ask, "DEFINE "HAPPY," since you're such judgmental, happy, ANONYMOUS people"

DEFINE HAPPY?: "The ability to enjoy mocking bloated, egocentric, minimally-talented, local, buffoons while generating, indignant, defensive, self-absorbed responses from those who love the aforementioned bloated, egocentric, minimally-talented, local buffoons."

Does this help you at all? You seem a bit obtuse -- and I fear your cognitive abilities might be limited....after all, you do find Tommy attractive.

P.S. I'm not "anonymous."

PM me and I'll send my actual name -- and phone number.

My contempt needs no shroud. I'd be glad to stand on the "mountain-top" and declare, "The Emperor has no clothes."

P.P.S.

Ironically, "Moochie' uses a nom de plume and criticizes others for being "anonymous.

"My hypocricy only goes so far."

[insightbyjake]

Men spend time here too? Wow.

I wrote singular. Man - not men.

My time here is not "spent"

It's enjoyed -- because of limited minds and limited writing skills.

Oh, wait!! You have both.

[GirlfromOR]

I'm starting to think that "Moochie" is actually Tummy. S/he has been PMing me all night long and 1) has a similar writing style to his emails and 2) is *very* defensive.

[MOOCHIE]

I stand corrected. One man enjoys the limited minds and limited writing skills here? Whew...glad you caught me on that.

I'm going to consider the source on this one and get back to my transcripts. They're more interesting. Oh, yeah, and it's how I make my very own living ater my children are well taken care of and sleeping soundly. Hostile? If that ain't the pot calling the kettle black...and I didn't even insult your children.

Sweet dreams.

[Newer Reader]

[P.S. I'm not "anonymous."

PM me and I'll send my actual name -- and phone number.



You sure? Talk to Boris first, maybe. And Conceptis.

I sure wouldn't.

NR #26

[GirlfromOR]

I've never insulted your kids. You can insult my child to be all you want to... your opinion means nothing to me. Why do you care what we think anyways? Good for you for making your very own living. Much better than pimping yourself out to the Big Deals of San Diego. We're sure that your only with Tummy for the flubby love and the lumpia.

[SDGirl87]

Will someone please help me find even one post in which Michelle's children were made fun of, specifically the one with vision impairment? I didn't know that she has a visually impaired son. In my book, kids are pretty much off limits. Especially in the ages that all of these kids are...very young, and adolescents.

She keeps saying that we made fun of her kids. So...back it up. I honestly do not recall even one time that I heard one peep about her kids. No one here would make fun or mock a child with a disability, I'm fairly sure.

Michelle...if it really is you, as everyone else has said, come on in, take off your skin, and rattle around in your bones (obscure reference...can anyone name it?). We ARE good people, and we actually are concerned for your well being. It may not seem that way, because we are so vicious to the man that you claim to love, but sometimes outsiders see so much more than someone on the inside. We're not emotionally involved, so we see the picture more clearly.

Regardless, everyone is welcome here. Please understand that you will find no support here for Tommy. He has been obnoxiously rude to many of us, either in email or in person. My own personal exchanges with him, in person, have been shocking. He was a class A jerk to me for no reason. He has lied repeatedly and at the end of the day, has a lot of issues that he needs to deal with. It's possible you see something in him that none of us do...but likewise, we see stuff in him that you clearly do not. We bear YOU no ill will.

[SadSadSad]

liar, liar........sleeping next to each other (but not having sex, only praying for our souls that know the truth.....)


She probably thinks they are just sleeping next to each other. FH is so small she probably doesn't even realize they are having sex just thinks they are snuggling.

[SDGirl87]

Cool! I had 4 PM's with suggestions. 3 of them will be used. The 4th one...probably not...lol.

Today's word will be MAGICAL

Tomorrow and Sunday are all taken care of too :)

[SDGirl87]

Hey TripleSad! Where have you been? Those elves have been NAUGHTY!! How are ya?

[iamsheens]

I'm going to share an blurb from moochie pm'ing me last night...I hope she doesn't mind but I can see her point..
she writes:

I'm sure there are lessons I'm supposed to be learning through this about being a little less sensitive and not paying attention to what people I don't know say about me or the man I love. It's just strange to me to feel like I have to define why I love Tommy. Ya know? No one's ever wondered what I loved about an ex.

I can understand where she is coming from....however, most people who are in love don't need to defend their love and in fact will bore you with details of their significant other and why they love them, if you ask...or even if you don't ask...I'm not trying to say Moochie doesn't love tommy but maybe her reasons we somehow wouldn't understand, or maybe she is afraid to tell us because we will bash her....which is probably true....we all seem to be grossed out by the fact anyone would have any relations with him...so I can understand in that aspect why she is hesitant to respond....and hell here's a thought...maybe she is using our board to see what kind of person Tommy is...or at least how the public views him...there are a lot of supporters of the show but then there is the rest of us...a lot of people would probably be here discussing the show if they knew such a place existed. I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt...I just think that if your in a public relationship (which she is) you have to be prepared for your lover to be scrutinized, for people to judge you, and to either ignore it or accept what is being said and take the advice and thoughts of complete strangers and use it as a tool on if you really want your life to be this way...a marriage to tommy is having the public judge what you two do and say and like I told her....if tommy and laura didn't blog every single thing going on in life, perhaps we wouldn't focus sooo much time on them...they deserve everything that gets said about them because they put themselves out there with the little details of their lives...maybe Laura has changed a lot, maybe she is actually an amazing parent, and maybe Tommy cares more about his kids then making every little good deed public, but the way they write in their blogs you don't get that vibe...if your spending that much time bragging on yourself well it leads me to believe your not doing half the stuff you say you are, or need constant gratification from others because you cant accept that something good you do isn't be acknowledged at all times...

I will say maybe we have no right to judge Moochie because we don't know the real situation, the behind the scenes, and what not...but Tommy and Laura are fair game because they expose every aspect of their lives on the radio or in their blogs....notice how we hardly talk about Randy, Delilah, Jeff or Jer on a constant basis, we can only talk about our real life situations some of us have had with them, or the stupid things they talk about on the radio....

[SadSadSad]

Six months....still in the honeymoon daze and I mean phase. Let me guess you don't believe what's written on the Don't Date Him Girl website too because he either lied about it or said it was a one time bad judgement call. He consistently lies and cheats and still finds new women who fall for his act.

I have no problem with anything I say about FH and I will forever stay anonymous. FH was an absolute prick to my friend and I know that to be the truth. Why would I keep anonymous?Because I don't want to be harrassed all hours of the day and night by phone calls. It's not worth saying who I am to prove anything to anyone and put my family in danger. FH has a mean ugly streak. If Moochie is truly Michelle she is going to feel really stupid in a year or two when FH stops the con and shows his real self. Moochie just keep an eye on his email and phone/text records because if he's not cheating now he soon will be. I do not know Dannell personally but if she was treated anything like my friend which I'm assuming she was I'm glad she took his ass to the cleaners.

Note to Moochie: there is more truth than you know here. He may do some good things to make himself adored by the public, but he truly doesn't care about most people and uses them for his own purpose. Also, get used to hearing about negative things about your beloved FH. After all he is a big deal and keeps blogging about it and saying it on the radio all the time. FH puts everything out there including if he's extra horny (refer to a blog a few days back). He is more of an idiot than I thought if he doesn't realize that not everyone is going to read that and think, Gee isn't that great FH is horny and instead reads it and thinks, How inappropiate is that to voice to the public and if my dad ever said anything like that when I was a teenage I would die of embarrassment. He flaunts the fact that he and Eddie call each other names like Biatch, flip each other off, and check out chicks together (at 10, now 11) and he is the Father in Eddie's life, but you are worried about what a bunch of people say on a website. Get off this website, open your eyes and think about what is going on around you.

And yes, I am going to judge Moochie for getting engaged after only knowing FH for two months. That is something an 18 year old with no children who is soooo in love does. See, grown-ups think about the details and the feelings of their children before they decide to make a major life decision and announce it to the world. Moochie of FH, pllease don't complain when one of your kids goes off to Vegas for a weekend and comes back married because "they just went with their hearts" and forgot about all the details that truly make a marriage work. You will have no one to blame but yourselves for their marriage and impending divorce. :wavey2:

[Alpinemaps]

Why are we feeding the troll? There's no more reason to believe this is Michelle, than to believe Amused was Dannell.

But, I'll play along, and this will be quick.

Michelle, you said, in regards to Laura:


She's so much smarter and sweeter than you know. Charlie is an angel that treats everyone with respect.

If this really is you, then, as her friend, perhaps you can talk to her about perception. She doesn't come off that way. Perhaps she enjoys playing the dumb blonde, but, she comes off as a really bad parent, and a really dumb person.

She could very easily change that in her blogs, very quickly. But she doesn't! So, how else are we supposed to judge her? How else are we supposed to perceive her?

The same goes for Tommy. It would be very easy for him to change things - he could come clean about some very minor details - specifically, for me, his drinking - is he drinking alcohol or not? I've seen him blog that he doesn't want a drink, and hasn't been drinking for months, and other blogs where he's talking about having a beer.

Can you see where the perception problem is?

[Carol]

So, I was thinking last night...


I think we were all a bit harsh on B&E Christmas. Sure FH is a sleaze ball, and kinda a sad little man (in so many ways)

HOWEVER, by bashing on B&E which is actaully a very kind event, I feel that we many have belittled all those who participated in the event for all the right reasons. YES-More families could have been helped YES-FH tried to show how small their living room was to prove how sad their house was....and it was actually bigger than my living room YES- FH has to make it a big deal about the things HE did and how HE gave, after all a dog needs to be patted on his head. But there were so many people who donated so much to give this family a great memory and christmas, and I think that bashing so much on the stuff that was donated, was maybe a little cold hearted of us.

There were alot of people who donated alot, out of the kindness of their hearts. The perfect example of the hoilday season and giving to those less fortunate. Sure, there may have been different ways to go about it, perhaps more responsible ways but in the end, as SDgirl says. Compassion is never wrong. Those who donated so much, were not wrong to do so, nor should their kindness be bashed on. Tommy-Fair game. Extra skateboards-perhaps not! It was just something that was donated by someone who wanted to help out.

Just my 2 cents though.

Oh, and I just wanted to add that I think Alpinemaps and iamsheens made some excellent points above me.

Okay okay that is my 2 cents.

[iamsheens]

So, I was thinking last night...


I think we were all a bit harsh on B&E Christmas. Sure FH is a sleaze ball, and kinda a sad little man (in so many ways)

HOWEVER, by bashing on B&E which is actaully a very kind event, I feel that we many have belittled all those who participated in the event for all the right reasons. YES-More families could have been helped YES-FH tried to show how small their living room was to prove how sad their house was....and it was actually bigger than my living room YES- FH has to make it a big deal about the things HE did and how HE gave, after all a dog needs to be patted on his head. But there were so many people who donated so much to give this family a great memory and christmas, and I think that bashing so much on the stuff that was donated, was maybe a little cold hearted of us.

There were alot of people who donated alot, out of the kindness of their hearts. The perfect example of the hoilday season and giving to those less fortunate. Sure, there may have been different ways to go about it, perhaps more responsible ways but in the end, as SDgirl says. Compassion is never wrong. Those who donated so much, were not wrong to do so, nor should their kindness be bashed on. Tommy-Fair game. Extra skateboards-perhaps not! It was just something that was donated by someone who wanted to help out.

Just my 2 cents though.

Oh, and I just wanted to add that I think Alpinemaps and iamsheens made some excellent points above me.

Okay okay that is my 2 cents.


Ok maybe next year when people want to donate they can just donate to the salvation army or one of the billions of other organizations....sure maybe someone did donate the cotton candy machine but that gift is not practical for anyone...unless a child specifically asked for that (which if your extremely poor would you even know what it tastes like to know you want a machine)its not practical...I just sometimes think people who donate stuff aren't in these families situations, out of base to what a poor family really needs and wants...and buys the flat screen tv's, the cotton candy machines, the snowboards, the jewelry...not realizing these items will just be sold off or serve no use to them because they don't have the finances to operate things...

I will never take away from the generosity of people or the good intention that B&E has its just almost like a slap in the face for the family...sure they will have a great Christmas with all the new toys, appliances, and other stuff people donated but like someone said earlier...what happens after Christmas is done and the family has to sell or keep items they can't use? I just think that things could be done differently....and its generous people donate their time and money to the cause but if it were me donating stuff I'd still want to make sure my donations where given to more than just one family...think about all those letters tommy probably got and he only picked one, and people have said they help more families off the air, thats great...but think of all those letters Tommy rejected, and people aren't getting help this Christmas...I just think it would be more gratifying to help another family or two have a great Christmas...

[oops]

There must be something truly magical about FH; I know I'd find cheating, lying, deceit, lack of self control, poor parenting and total disregard for my family's privacy sooooo magical and enticing! All those qualities a girl would put down on her eHarmony most-wanted list! Yeah, gotta get me some of that!

[iamsheens]

There must be something truly magical about FH; I know I'd find cheating, lying, deceit, lack of self control, poor parenting and total disregard for my family's privacy sooooo magical and enticing! All those qualities a girl would put down on her eHarmony most-wanted list! Yeah, gotta get me some of that!

LOL OOPS!

[Carol]

Ok maybe next year when people want to donate they can just donate to the salvation army or one of the billions of other organizations

Okay I paired down that quote quite a bit. I 100% agree with you iamsheens, many things were not practical, and they do nothing to stop the rut that the family is in. It was not a donation to a the college fund of these kids, it was not help getting a job with potential for advancment, through continued education for the young woman who is helping support the family. Everything the gave was just stuff, and next year when the family is in the exact same place they were this year....but with plenty of bikes and a coffee pot J&J wont give a rats ass about them.

I really don't think that is the fault of the people who donated so much, and who knows perhaps they do donate further? I was really only trying to say that J&J spewgram, totally fair game, but it just seemed really mean spirited to go after those who donated out of the goodness of their hearts, ya know? Becuase they thought they were doing good (and really it is a nice event...quite myopic but still a nice event)

[boris85]

Oh yeah! They were flat screens, hung on the walls by Cox Cable! And jewelery from Versailles. I think 4 skateboards from Eddie's pro boarder friend/coach. And like 5 bikes (well one of the "kids" is a 26 year old adult with a little toddler...so that should come in handy!)

I just look at it all and wonder where they'll store it all.

More is not better. They did receive gift cards to various stores (Fry's was mentioned and I wondered, what does a family who needed blankets need a Fry's card for???). Hopefully they got some cards for groceries and stores that supply real-life items--Target/Wal-Mart/Sears).

And J&J always talk about how the family will remember this as the best Christmas ever. I tend to think they may be very touched by the generousity, but I personally hope that this is NOT their best ever; that this is probably a very rough patch and that future/past Christmases that they make happen for themselves will bring them more pride, joy and dignity.

How do we make a supposedly poor family feel good - teach them the in's and out's of gluttony, of course.

[iamsheens]

Exactly Boris...

[Carol]

How do we make a supposedly poor family feel good - teach them the in's and out's of gluttony, of course.

Its the only logical thing to do :disa: ..

[boris85]

I accidentally found you guys about a month ago. Not a happy day for me. Just wondering why...

Moochie, moochie, moochie. If you are in fact "the" Moochie - aka I like to date fat Guamanian men who beat women - you need to reassess your decision to date and possibily marry Tummy. He lies non-stop, and has a history of abusing women! Look at his recent dating track record. Save yourself. Beg Captain Mike, John Coleman, or Michael Tuck to take you back!

[boris85]

If I wanted to FH's children in the middle of this like their mother has, knowing they are aware of this trash, I'd say more However, I respect them and won't put them in the middle of this nonsense. They are children. Come on.

If you love Papa Smurf so much, why do you call him FH?

[oops]

Laura gets robbed in here. Period. She's gone through hell and has fought hard and strong to be healthy. She honestly has never visited this site though she's heard about it. She knows better than to torture herself with negativity from people who don't know her. She's got the majority on her side. :) She's so much smarter and sweeter than you know.

I fully applaud anyone fighting addiction and these challenges; especially parents wanting to do the best by their children and their families....but if LBM stepped up to the plate and took responsibility and began living like a grown up, she'd probably have more support than she could ever dream of. But it's like so many have said, she's putting the fodder in her own diarrhea for us to form our perceptions. When you are supposed to be rebuilding your life (and you are watching your marriage and your children's lives fall to pieces because of your behavior, you don't play it off like a dumb blond and whine about not being the "fun" parent!)

And I like the part about having the "majority on her side" .....so who off the show is in the minority??? Those who were disgusted with her behavior before and after and who know much too much?

[SDGirl87]

Carol,

I don't think I saw anyone tearing down the people who helped (did I miss it?) My angst is with the organizer of the event, not the kind hearted people who helped. As the lead in the event, Tubby should have seen the bounty, made the decision to split it up (toys for tots is screaming for help this year...they are WAY down on donations) and shared with more than one family.

As for those who helped, they are wonderful people, in my opinion. I love that people will go out of their way for strangers, and try to do a good thing to help. It's easy to get caught up in the mindset of the crowd and go overboard on the gifting, which is what I think happened here. One of them perhaps could have spoken up and said hey, let's do this or that, but ultimately the responsibility lies with the organizer. That was Tubby and his hoodlum buddies as he calls them.

[Carol]

Okay I have tried to write an response to SDgirl a million times, and I can not write what I am trying to explain...the best I can do is, all the complaining and picking apart of the event was a little disheartening to me, personally. There are alot of flaws with the event, and I am not enraged or anything (you know me..easy going) I just felt like the picking apart of every detail in this instance was a little demeaning to the people who gave so much. That wasn't even a good explination of what I was thinking..so...sorry :(



I still wish Laura would have stepped out of her spewgram character and Shown the public how strong of a person she could be and been an example of a strong, healthy, commited and responsible woman. Instead of sinking back into her dumb blonde, shop-a-holic, irresponsible good-times-only character.

[oops]

Carol,

I don't think I saw anyone tearing down the people who helped (did I miss it?) My angst is with the organizer of the event, not the kind hearted people who helped. As the lead in the event, Tubby should have seen the bounty, made the decision to split it up (toys for tots is screaming for help this year...they are WAY down on donations) and shared with more than one family.

As for those who helped, they are wonderful people, in my opinion. I love that people will go out of their way for strangers, and try to do a good thing to help. It's easy to get caught up in the mindset of the crowd and go overboard on the gifting, which is what I think happened here. One of them perhaps could have spoken up and said hey, let's do this or that, but ultimately the responsibility lies with the organizer. That was Tubby and his hoodlum buddies as he calls them.

Truly. My sentiments exactly. The organization and distribution should have been handled differently to share "the wealth". God bless everyone who gave of their time, donations and talents.

[boris85]

Like I said, there are two sides of the story. I honestly don't want to say more than that without having been there and without accusing someone else of something I didn't witness.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there, does it not make a sound? Hmmm. You are in denial! When you are giving Tummy's mom a sponge bath, smile and thank her for raising such a crop of troubled boys. Pass the bong.

[boris85]

I fully applaud anyone fighting addiction and these challenges; especially parents wanting to do the best by their children and their families....but if LBM stepped up to the plate and took responsibility and began living like a grown up, she'd probably have more support than she could ever dream of. But it's like so many have said, she's putting the fodder in her own diarrhea for us to form our perceptions. When you are supposed to be rebuilding your life (and you are watching your marriage and your children's lives fall to pieces because of your behavior, you don't play it off like a dumb blond and whine about not being the "fun" parent!)

And I like the part about having the "majority on her side" .....so who off the show is in the minority??? Those who were disgusted with her behavior before and after and who know much too much?

Hey me too. I am addicted to breasts, but then again, I love it. Moochie has pretty large $#@&. Silicone or saline?

[iamsheens]

Hey me too. I am addicted to breasts, but then again, I love it. Moochie has pretty large $#@&. Silicone or saline?

OMG how inappropriate yet I'm laughing

[oops]

Hey me too. I am addicted to breasts, but then again, I love it. Moochie has pretty large $#@&. Silicone or saline?
ha! ha! They were placed there MAGICALLY!

[Dawnski]

I'm not sure what your intentions are but we are always up for listening to what "insiders" have to say...I guess I just don't get why you would join a website that kinda bashes your soon to be husband...

You mean "soon to be EX-husband." ha ha ha :)

[oops]

Let's see if "Moochie" suddenly pops up after the 10:00 hour---

[SDchick]

How do we make a supposedly poor family feel good - teach them the in's and out's of gluttony, of course.
And make them feel even MORE POOR, since they won't be able to afford doing/using some of those gifts they received. (HOW MUCH do snowboard day-passes cost? the gas to get up to the mountains? the cost of eating up there all day????)

[oops]

Just ran my daughter to school and they were playing the drunk weather man and newsman routines---LBM was laughing hysterically. Thought it was a bit tasteless in light of...

[oops]

Must not have been the MAGICAL "majority" who decided to run those routines again this year.

[Layla]

Good Morning mydear invisible firends, and my two no-longer IF's!

So, I sat here this morning and read all of the new posts since I ranted and logged off last night. Then, I re-read them. I'm surprised at how "Michelle" showing had an effect on this board. I still feel exactly how I felt last night. Maybe I'm a little harsh in the things I say, but that's ME. I am not a persona. I say what I mean and I mean what I say.

Tummy should NOT get all the credit and all the glory for the event. Michelle should not be praising him and feeding his big fat ego. It DOES make me sick, how swollen all of their heads get over all of this. There are FAR MORE people involved that worked hard out of the goodness of their heart, and for NOTHING ELSE. Those are the people who deserve the praise and respect. Does anyone truly believe Tommy would do ANY of this without sponsors and a show broadcasting it?

Charity is not something you do once a year on a radio show. And GOODNESS is something you show EVERY DAY, to friends, family, and strangers, because it is who you are, not because it is an act for ratings.

We know that Tommy is a bad person. Or, at least his PERSONA is, and honestly, anyone who wants the public to see him the way we all do, has got to be a little off in the head. His history shows he is not someone you should get in a relationship with. His attitude toward listeners shows that he has issues. Doing B&E once a year does not change that fact.

Michelle...Merry Christmas to you too. My Christmas Wish for you is that you find TRUE love and happiness, and if you truly NEED a man in your life, that you find one who will take care of you and your kids with love and kindness, and not just money and food. And that you will understand the true meaning of Christmas, which is not to make sure that everyone over-indulges, because it's the holidays and you can make up for it as a NY's Resolution.

As for me, I WILL keep doing what I'm doing. Because it work's out for me just fine. I've been married for nine years. I have four wonderful children, who are all well adjusted and happy. My five year old talked to me on her own last night without prompting about how all of the present under the tree could dissapear and she'd be ok as long as her family was still here. I work a full time job, my husband works TWO full time jobs, and we still sit down and eat real food with our children every night, that 80% of the time I make (I'll be honest, we do fast food too). We play board games and read books. We had jump rope competitions in the dining room last night. We are a family who loves to spend time together. So, again, I think I will keep doing it.

Lastly, random act's of kindness are always for more satisfying to me than something that gets a big bru-ha-ha and lots of attention. It think the recievers appreciate that more too, because they understand that it was done in the spirit of goodness and love, and not for our own personal gain.

Happy Holiday to All,

Layla

[boris85]

OMG how inappropriate yet I'm laughing

That's the beauty of it. And them. They're MAGICALLY delicious.

[boris85]

ha! ha! They were placed there MAGICALLY!

I've heard about that in the Bible. It's called the immaculate implantation.

[boris85]

Just ran my daughter to school and they were playing the drunk weather man and newsman routines---LBM was laughing hysterically. Thought it was a bit tasteless in light of...

They are still playing it at 9:08 a.m. What they don't tell you is that it's really Laura's dad. Can't you hear the orbs buzzing around?

[oops]

"Lastly, random act's of kindness are always for more satisfying to me than something that gets a big bru-ha-ha and lots of attention. It think the recievers appreciate that more too, because they understand that it was done in the spirit of goodness and love, and not for our own personal gain."

Layla ROCKS! Glad it's workin' for ya! ;)

[Layla]

On another note.
Every time a new poster shows up that ends up getting fed a little slack on the board, they end up thanking the people who are pming them privately because they are too "scared" to support them publicly.
If this is really true, then I'm very dissapointed in those people sending the Private Messages. be yourself and stand up for what you believe. Do bow down to "peer pressure" or be scared of a backlash. We are all adults, and if you feel something in your heart, express it, don't do it in hiding. Have enough respect for yourself to speak your mind and own it.

[oops]

I've heard about that in the Bible. It's called the immaculate implantation.
oh Boris, we need to pray for you! lol

[boris85]

Still no blogg from Tummy. It's been four days now. Something is up. Trouble in paraddise? Fingers to fat to type?

[iamsheens]

On another note.
Every time a new poster shows up that ends up getting fed a little slack on the board, they end up thanking the people who are pming them privately because they are too "scared" to support them publicly.
If this is really true, then I'm very dissapointed in those people sending the Private Messages. be yourself and stand up for what you believe. Do bow down to "peer pressure" or be scared of a backlash. We are all adults, and if you feel something in your heart, express it, don't do it in hiding. Have enough respect for yourself to speak your mind and own it.

I agree...although moochie did PM last night everything I said to her in private I'd say on this board to you people, I really don't care if you agree or disagree with my thoughts or opinions, they are my own and so be it if you don't always agree with me.

[Layla]

I agree...although moochie did PM last night everything I said to her in private I'd say on this board to you people, I really don't care if you agree or disagree with my thoughts or opinions, they are my own and so be it if you don't always agree with me.
And we'd love you regardless :)

[boris85]

Charity is fine. Gluttony is not. They could've changes numerous families' lives, rather than just one. They don't know the family's story either - not the real story. What is someone is a drug addict and will sell all of the stuff. Probably not, but you never know. Who's going to pay for their storage unit that they'll need now!!!! It just shows that a gluttonous mind (Tummy) was behind it all.

[oops]

One last thing I'll say is, no one in Tommy's family is afraid of him. I've been around for six months (not years, I know) and can promise you that.
I just keep thinking about this weird comment; so if anyone WERE afraid do you think they'd feel comfortable telling a new girlfriend without fearing FH's retaliation? And is that a measure for a future husband and stepfather to your children? "Well, no one in his family is afraid of him". (another item for the eHarmony checklist?)

[Sapphie]

For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..

[Layla]

Charity is fine. Gluttony is not. They could've changes numerous families' lives, rather than just one. They don't know the family's story either - not the real story. What is someone is a drug addict and will sell all of the stuff. Probably not, but you never know. Who's going to pay for their storage unit that they'll need now!!!! It just shows that a gluttonous mind (Tummy) was behind it all.
I had a thought this morning on that I forgot to mention. TAXES. Who pays the TAXES on all of this, especially that new car??

[Dawnski]

"...obviously. I didn't respond to very hurtful things that were posted about me and my innocent children (even as inaccurate as they were.) There is only one person on here bthat I'm disturbed by, other than Tommy's ex-wife, who is bitter like many divorced people are. I can accept her anger, even if it is all about money (how ironic, huh?)"

So which of our invisible friends is she pissy with? The one that was having unpleasant interactions with FH and had to involve counsel for advice? hmmm One would think that would give a person reason to pause...

I'll bet it's Boris! Sorry Boris, but sometimes your posts are *disturbing*. ha ha!

[iamsheens]

awww thank Layla..=)

[boris85]

For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..

I have two little intials for you all: BS!!

This is not sincere - if she were sincere, she would have said this stuff months ago, instead of trying to create some "The Hills" scripted sign-off. Too much "Gossip Girl." Dave did not get her into rehab - that was her doing. No one is to blame but Little Miss Big Butted Loser herself. She does not have a computer because she chooses not to have one. She has the cash to buy one. Trying to make us feel sorry for her again. The entire entry is a ploy to get sympathy. And guess what - if she did have a computer, there's no way she write over vacation. She's as lazy as she is an addict. Her words do not coincide with her actions, and therefore, I disregard the garbage that her mouth creates.

[oops]

For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..
Must admit, I'm impressed. She takes responsibility and actually thanks DC (she referred to him as Davecain) for getting her the help she needed! Okay. Good for her. Hope she can hold on to this and take it with her on her walk into the New Year. Peace.

[boris85]

Must admit, I'm impressed. She takes responsibility and actually thanks DC (she referred to him as Davecain) for getting her the help she needed! Okay. Good for her. Hope she can hold on to this and take it with her on her walk into the New Year. Peace.

You must be reading the limited brail edition....

[iamsheens]

For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..

You know last night I told Moochie Laura should keep her life well not so public because then we couldn't pick a part her bad parenting maybe Mooch told her something because this does sound like a very sincere and heartfelt entry. This is the kind of entry where all we can do is hope the best for her and be thankful that maybe she is starting to see the big picture and learn that life isn't all about her...it sounds very mature...but with Laura for ever one mature post there are 2 or 3 that make her come across in a bad aspect...maybe she will use her journal in 2008 as a healing tool, to help her get through this new chapter in her life...to be real and not be real sometimes and other times sound like an immature parent...maybe she will take 2008 to grow up and be a mature responsible adult, and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life....

[Sapphie]

Layla: I gotta say that I loved reading all your posts from last night and this morning...you have great insight and put forth a lot of wonderful observations... I admire the fact that you really do "say what you mean, and mean what you say"...Happiest of holidays to you and yours :)

[oops]

You must be reading the limited brail edition....
Sorry, I do wanna give her the benefit of the doubt; mostly I want those kids to have the mom they deserve; and maybe even the family they were created in. Maybe it is just showgram drivel, but I don't think she's like Tummy in that respect; I think she puts out what spills from her non-filtered, impulsive head usually. Maybe I'm just sentimental for the holidays. But I see her as being more repairable than FH by far. She's truly attached to her kids. FH is attached to FH (and the nearest drive-thru window).

[boris85]

You know last night I told Moochie Laura should keep her life well not so public because then we couldn't pick a part her bad parenting maybe Mooch told her something because this does sound like a very sincere and heartfelt entry. This is the kind of entry where all we can do is hope the best for her and be thankful that maybe she is starting to see the big picture and learn that life isn't all about her...it sounds very mature...but with Laura for ever one mature post there are 2 or 3 that make her come across in a bad aspect...maybe she will use her journal in 2008 as a healing tool, to help her get through this new chapter in her life...to be real and not be real sometimes and other times sound like an immature parent...maybe she will take 2008 to grow up and be a mature responsible adult, and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life....

If Laura did it because Mooch told her to, it would not be sincere. Laura must be reading that new book "Smoke, Blame, Deny"

[Layla]

You know last night I told Moochie Laura should keep her life well not so public because then we couldn't pick a part her bad parenting maybe Mooch told her something because this does sound like a very sincere and heartfelt entry. This is the kind of entry where all we can do is hope the best for her and be thankful that maybe she is starting to see the big picture and learn that life isn't all about her...it sounds very mature...but with Laura for ever one mature post there are 2 or 3 that make her come across in a bad aspect...maybe she will use her journal in 2008 as a healing tool, to help her get through this new chapter in her life...to be real and not be real sometimes and other times sound like an immature parent...maybe she will take 2008 to grow up and be a mature responsible adult, and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life....

There's only one thing I see wrong with this entry Sheens. I don't think she should find a new man. I think along the same lines as Dr. Laura. If your marriage failed. Focus on being a mom. Raise them until their 18. Make them your entire life. When they are grown, go out and find a new mate and live it up.

[oops]

"and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life...."
Gosh I hope she just learns to live well with herself and raise her kids with whatever custody she has and does not bring in other men into their lives. Give herself and her children time; lots of it.

[SDchick]

Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..





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[Wabbitsd]

Sheesh. I take one night to go to dinner with my friends, and look what you folks get your beehinders into this time. And all without me.

Honest to God. Moochie, or whomever you be. Put a cork in it. You and your little dog, too.

Moochie, baby. So much so much....So are you trying to say that your kids are with you full time, then? Crock alert. Oh, and nice threat to Conceptis. you are one class chick. If you are a chick. I'm not at all convinced you are anything but a figment of an anonymous angry soul, one we have heard from before.

And if you believe LBM is a sweet person, then there is something tragically wrong with your perception of reality. If you think Charlie is not damaged goods, you are sadly mistaken. He and his poor sister are going through the same cycles as many children of drunken and destroyed households...IF Laura is such a sweetie....who the heck was it who raged against the poor kid for not enabling her to stay at that JingleBall Concert long enough for her to have ALL THE FUN to which she was ENTITLED! Must have been one of her nannies, right?

So, I'll address this anonymous persona you wish to push here....Your tale of woe about your ex just caps my impression of you...you thought you were going to remarry, after divorcing the same guy....buying a house, then split again. My goodness, aren't we into snap judgements without considering the effect on the kids! Remember them? Those innocent ones you think it is cool to pretend you give a rats ass about. And then you've had relationships, we can call them, with some other famous personalities...hm...while they were still married. right? Great. No wonder you don't get the concept of adultery, cheating, lying and abuse that FH is giving you. I don't know jack about any of your kids. I hope I don't get to know too much, because I'm sure they are probably used to this kind of stuff from you.

All joking aside, have you gotten any professional counseling to determine why you have to jump in and out of these kinds of relationships like this? Where you are merely an object to be traded out? If you were truly a concerned parent, you wouldn't let yourself be manipulated into a quick engagement...and YET ANOTHER HOME PURCHASE and snap wedding...

You are condemned to repeat your same patterns til you find out what ails the soul inside you. And if you have young girl children, you are setting them up for a long life of misery with the lessons they are learning from you. But hey, if you have all boys, relax! They will just continue the tradition of regarding women as merely objects to be traded up and out at their convenience, or when they no longer project the image they feel they are entitled to.

Let me ask you--when did you come to view YOURSELF as a responsible parent? Was it before you started having FH come spend the night at your house with your kids there before you even knew him 6 months?? Maybe while you were dating B-list San Diego celebrities...Of course, since FH and the others are all BIG DEALS, it's ok to toss another new man into the mix. No problem. Mama gets what Mama wants, no?

Raising kids is not an accidental thing. In fact, surprise pregnancies are ok when you are, what--18? When you are nearing 40, you ought to have your ducks in a row and know that if you have a history of bad choices in men, you don't continue to jump in and out of relationships while your children are young. You bite the bullet, go into "retirement" and focus on their needs, not your dating schedule.

Dahling, I don't give a rat's patoot about your wrinkles, and if that floats your boat thinking people are impressed with your physical appearance, well, I hope you get to hang out with Dennis Conner--or maybe an important Retired Admiral soon. (Big Boat people, big boat people, doncha know.) I think your little blog about yourself on your myspace page tells more about you than you realize...you want to travel with your kids...cute little accessories to your life that they are. You want a luxury car...you want you want you want...You think LBM is sweet because she is a lot like you...self-focused, vain and trite.

So go one, now that you know what I think, tell me what you think about what I think of you. And don't break a nail.

[oops]

Probably the best gift she can give her children is to move into the new place and get them out of FH's flophouse. I mean that has got to be the weirdest for all those kids; coming and going from one set of parents to the next (there are like 6 sets involved at least); no one's married; FH is over at Moochie's sometimes; Moochie's staying at his place sometimes; LBM is living upstairs. What kind of message/stability does that provide? Are there any family meals? What does homework time look like? I can't imagine any semblance of "normal" family living/routine in that kind of environment.

She'll do best to get her little ones out to her own place, sparce as it may be, and set up a place they can feel is their home and not an amusement center.

[YoungAmerican]

I was a little surprised by LBM's latest diary entry. It actually sounds decent and halfway sincere. We all know she probably won't ever be Mother of the Year but any change for the better is a very good thing seeing how low she's been. I'm into the Christmas spirit right now since today is Christmas Luncheon/get off early day at work so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and actually wish dear ole LBM a Merry Christmas and a better New Year! ;)

[SDchick]

I appreciate that she's taking some responsiblity for losing everything (finally!). But WHY does she say she has no money? I KNOW this has been asked over and over on this board, but I just can't help but still wonder why she's "poor?"

How long did she live with Tommy? Did she pay rent? NO. Did she continue to pay her share of the SDSU mortgage with Dave? I mean, tht's the only thing I can think of. She kept getting paid in re-hab, we know that much. She continues to receive a fat check to this day, where is the money going towards now?

I'd love for our newest member to step in here and perhaps clarify why Laura is so desperately out of money, that she'd let her children sleep on the floor and eat mac and cheese out of cheap bowls that may or may not test positive for lead.

[oops]

Damn Wabbitsd! I'm wiped out! :gle:

[oops]

New B&E pics on the website; lots of Moochie now. Check out #14--where's her engagement ring???

[SDGirl87]

I have been thinking about that SDChick...maybe she is paying off rehab. That was a PRICEY place and she was gone 90 days. She probably wasn't paid for those 90 days and then came home to no home. Attorney's fees, probably child support payments to DC, heaven knows what other expenses (regular monthly expenses). I'm a fairly conservative saver and try to plan my financial life so that even in an emergency, I'd be ok, but I must say that if I went without pay for 90 days, I'd be sucking wind too.

This is all clearly supposition, but it would explain a lot.

[boris85]

I have been thinking about that SDChick...maybe she is paying off rehab. That was a PRICEY place and she was gone 90 days. She probably wasn't paid for those 90 days and then came home to no home. Attorney's fees, probably child support payments to DC, heaven knows what other expenses (regular monthly expenses). I'm a fairly conservative saver and try to plan my financial life so that even in an emergency, I'd be ok, but I must say that if I went without pay for 90 days, I'd be sucking wind too.

This is all clearly supposition, but it would explain a lot.

Don't you remember? The station paid for it!

[Sapphie]

Wabbit: you are at your most brilliant when you're on a rant..:)

I realize it would be entertaining to think we might have the real Michelle posting here but really...do we all think that's possible? The poster known as "MOOCHIE" is so obviously not the person known as Flubby's fianceé, Michelle...there are way too many holes, inconsistencies and contradictions. I have the same opinion as Wabbit's: I'm not at all convinced you are anything but a figment of an anonymous angry soul, one we have heard from before.

[Wabbitsd]

oops. I may have mentioned it before, but I know I get all wrapped up on this stuff. Maybe it's a topic that pithys (!) me off when these yahooligans step into the spotlight. (love the regulars here...even when we disagree. Great insights, and ability to consider different facets. and thank you for the kind words...those of you who are speed readers and got through all that.)

I think LBM's diary is a "checkoff" for her next little badge from that Friday nite gathering she gets to visit every now and then.

[SDchick]

I have been thinking about that SDChick...maybe she is paying off rehab. That was a PRICEY place and she was gone 90 days. She probably wasn't paid for those 90 days and then came home to no home. Attorney's fees, probably child support payments to DC, heaven knows what other expenses (regular monthly expenses). I'm a fairly conservative saver and try to plan my financial life so that even in an emergency, I'd be ok, but I must say that if I went without pay for 90 days, I'd be sucking wind too.

This is all clearly supposition, but it would explain a lot.
I'd forgotten about the cost of rehab, Girl. But child support and the attorney's fees...I didn't think child support would be kicking in so soon, especially since it seems their court case has only just happened.

But we too have a little set aside for life's emergencies, which I'm CERTAIN Laura does not. She must have thought money would always MAGICALLY be there for her!

[boris85]

New B&E pics on the website; lots of Moochie now. Check out #14--where's her engagement ring???

Hey - this just in - Tummy has a new entry:

We sat down together and really talked openly and honestly. It was a cleansing moment. As we held each other's hands and LOOKED into each other's EYES, I couldn't help but shed a tear. Does that make me a wimp? We realized, that we both felt rushed and stressed. This should be a beautiful time, and it will be, when it's the right time. It has nothing to do with our love - we BOTH love each other deeply. In fact, it has to do with that fact the WE respect each other so much. Basically, we decided to step back and get "unengaged." It's like we are engaged to get engaged. It's beautiful and I realized that after Michelle explained it to me. My kids, who mean the world to me, agree. For some reason, they were doing summersaults and signing old show tunes. That reminds me of what we had to do when I was young to entertain ourselves. I am not sure it I've told you THIS but we were POOR. We even had to whittle our own toys out of my older brother Ray's bongs and CRACK pipes.

Maybe I can give the ring to the next girl I meet. How many times can a ring be resized? I wonder if Car Wash Girl has changed her mind yet. I'd better give her a call soon.

Michelle also made me realize how selfish I would be if I did not buy her a new house, even tough we are unengaged. She's so smart and insightful. It's the SECRET, I tell you. It's a miracle!

Well, I am sorry I have not written in a while - too much going on. There's only so much a little fat man from Guam can take. I need to go an change my mom's bed pan. I have blisters ON MY FINGERS from the B&E XMAS so I won't be able to walk for at least 6 months. Go on without me my friends. I'll be cheering from MY BENCH. Oh, did I mention that my mom loves Michelle so much she actually included her in her will? In fact, my mom's signature on the form looks just like Michelle's! It must be meant to be. Beautiful. Beautiful. GO CHARGERS!

[oops]

oops. I may have mentioned it before, but I know I get all wrapped up on this stuff. Maybe it's a topic that pithys (!) me off when these yahooligans step into the spotlight. (love the regulars here...even when we disagree. Great insights, and ability to consider different facets. and thank you for the kind words...those of you who are speed readers and got through all that.)

I think LBM's diary is a "checkoff" for her next little badge from that Friday nite gathering she gets to visit every now and then.
Maybe so. But it's the first time she's ever 'fessed up and owned any of it. Time will tell. Words don't make change; behaviors reflect change over time. Nothing MAGICAL. (that's what I always tell my kids when they try to pull the "I'm sorrrrrry!" card after repeating the same "offense" for the umpteenth time).

Yeah, parenting...go figure. And I'm okay with not always being "fun"!

[blondmom]

moochie, michelle, fiancee of FH

i don't know you. i just think that as a mother and a woman, you can do much better than this man.

past behavior predicts the future, in a few years you will not be happy. you have been married, so you know the challenges that lie ahead of you...now multiply them by 10 because this man is a liar.

do you really want to be a part of this circus? is it healthy for your children?

[SDGirl87]

Hey - this just in - Tummy has a new entry:

We sat down together and really talked openly and honestly. It was a cleansing moment. As we held each other's hands and LOOKED into each other's EYES, I couldn't help but shed a tear. Does that make me a wimp? We realized, that we both felt rushed and stressed. This should be a beautiful time, and it will be, when it's the right time. It has nothing to do with our love - we BOTH love each other deeply. In fact, it has to do with that fact the WE respect each other so much. Basically, we decided to step back and get "unengaged." It's like we are engaged to get engaged. It's beautiful and I realized that after Michelle explained it to me. My kids, who mean the world to me, agree. For some reason, they were doing summersaults and signing old show tunes. That reminds me of what we had to do when I was young to entertain ourselves. I am not sure it I've told you THIS but we were POOR. We even had to whittle our own toys out of my older brother Ray's bongs and CRACK pipes.

Maybe I can give the ring to the next girl I meet. How many times can a ring be resized? I wonder if Car Wash Girl has changed her mind yet. I'd better give her a call soon.

Michelle also made me realize how selfish I would be if I did not buy her a new house, even tough we are unengaged. She's so smart and insightful. It's the SECRET, I tell you. It's a miracle!

Well, I am sorry I have not written in a while - too much going on. There's only so much a little fat man from Guam can take. I need to go an change my mom's bed pan. I have blisters ON MY FINGERS from the B&E XMAS so I won't be able to walk for at least 6 months. Go on without me my friends. I'll be cheering from MY BENCH. Oh, did I mention that my mom loves Michelle so much she actually included her in her will? In fact, my mom's signature on the form looks just like Michelle's! It must be meant to be. Beautiful. Beautiful. GO CHARGERS!

I ALMOST fell for this...the first few lines sure sounded like him...LOLOL. GOOD ONE Boris!! ^5

[Wabbitsd]

LBM is broke because money is merely a way to feed her insatiable needs. She was just talking about her round of stores..GTM, etc. What a way to just let your money float between your fingers.

She doesn't cook, she eats out every meal.


And as far as her having no furniture, LBM: Here's a hint.

CRAIGSLIST. Instead of sitting and zoning out on Tila Tequila, why not get on Craigslist and start looking for good, inexpensive, used furniture. oh, wait, I forgot to whom I was speaking: Call Sleep Train, shill a bed. Call GTM, shill some other stuffola from them. you get the picture.

Trade that car in for something more practical.

And now that you have come to realize your kids are cool people, stay involved in their lives. That's a whole lot different than "encourage them to do and say things that make me appear to be a cute parent."

[Sapphie]

New B&E pics on the website; lots of Moochie now. Check out #14--where's her engagement ring???
Maybe Tommy told her not to wear it in "da hood"....pic # 14 also shows her indicating the size of something that is about 4"...hmmm

[Wabbitsd]

sapphie! LMAO!

[oops]

LBM's moolah situation---do we know the station paid for her rehab? Or did FH? Surely she's paying the mortgage on the SDSU house with DC and is having to pay a buttload of child support (she doesn't get them very often it doesn't seem). Atty fees. Child counselors :cry: Who knows. Reality bites.

[oops]

Maybe Tommy told her not to wear it in "da hood"....pic # 14 also shows her indicating the size of something that is about 4"...hmmm
much too big. Think I remember Amused referencing a Vienna sausage or something.

[Stact]

Moochie,

You should speak with Amused directly you could learn a lot from her. FH has never been respectful to her. I know them both personally. She is a wonderful Mom and he is a pathetic liar. Ask him about his drug addiction and how it destroyed their marriage. Yes, he's still using. He refused rehab. He's bi-polar and manic and abusive and he doesn't know where she lives because she fears for her life. He's an a$$. You are blinded by money. Call Amused and know the truth. FH is a compulsive liar who tells everyone exactly what they WANT to hear. Good luck.

[Wabbitsd]

Anyone see this headline in the paper this morning? "A South Bay neighborhood was hit with a small tornado or strong wind that ripped some doors off hinges, flattened fences and damaged roof tiles last night, authorities said."

Maybe the B&E crew came back and sucked back all the stuff?

[iamsheens]

In the new pics is picture number 9 Michelle's kids?

And who is in picture number 14 with Michelle and Im assuming her daughter? B.t.w. her daughter is really cute so I don't know what negative things people would say about the little girl...

And just a side note...I wonder if the "regulars" get annoyed by being known as the regulars....and not by their individual names and personalities...just a thought...

[Wabbitsd]

iamsheens,

maybe it's just a personal thing, but I don't want to be regarded as "irregular." I think it gives a "negative connotation," if you know what I mean.

and omg...I know two of the people in the B&E crew...pix #19. I gotta catch up with some gossip!

[SDGirl87]

Wow...is that little girl with Moochie her daughter? She's adorable. She is really really cute. I hadn't seen a picture where she was clear before.

[iamsheens]

LBM is broke because money is merely a way to feed her insatiable needs. She was just talking about her round of stores..GTM, etc. What a way to just let your money float between your fingers.

She doesn't cook, she eats out every meal.


And as far as her having no furniture, LBM: Here's a hint.

CRAIGSLIST. Instead of sitting and zoning out on Tila Tequila, why not get on Craigslist and start looking for good, inexpensive, used furniture. oh, wait, I forgot to whom I was speaking: Call Sleep Train, shill a bed. Call GTM, shill some other stuffola from them. you get the picture.

Trade that car in for something more practical.

And now that you have come to realize your kids are cool people, stay involved in their lives. That's a whole lot different than "encourage them to do and say things that make me appear to be a cute parent."

or there is a website http://www.freecycle.org/ that people post things they no longer want....I think its a great idea maybe moochie can forward the website to Laura and laura can go to the library and find some furniture.

[oops]

Moochie,
You should speak with Amused directly you could learn a lot from her. FH has never been respectful to her. I know them both personally. She is a wonderful Mom and he is a pathetic liar. Ask him about his drug addiction and how it destroyed their marriage. Yes, he's still using. He refused rehab. He's bi-polar and manic and abusive and he doesn't know where she lives because she fears for her life. He's an a$$. You are blinded by money. Call Amused and know the truth. FH is a compulsive liar who tells everyone exactly what they WANT to hear. Good luck.
GAG! Every time I hear something else about his destructive, manipulative, selfish, abusive nature I am more and more disgusted and angered that the facade is held up in the name of ratings. For shame. The minority at the showgram needs to throw out the trash.

[11th Reader]

Just my 2 cents though.

Oh, and I just wanted to add that I think Alpinemaps and iamsheens made some excellent points above me.

Okay okay that is my 2 cents.

That was more like 4 cents, Carol!

[Sapphie]

iamsheens:
And just a side note...I wonder if the "regulars" get annoyed by being known as the regulars....and not by their individual names and personalities...just a thought...
Sheens...I hope you are not including Wabbit here....:)

Wabbit: (love the regulars here...even when we disagree.

[SDGirl87]

We are not regulars, we are known by our numbers...lol!!

[oops]

What makes someone regular or irregular?

[oops]

don't even go there Boris!

[Wabbitsd]

I'm sorry if I offend re: "regulars." I'll try to be more specific...(smile)

[Layla]

don't even go there Boris!
If we all had to meet up with Boris' standards, I'm sure I'd be way beyond irregular...