San Diego - 94.1 FM J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread

[Transplant]

Hi Everyone! I hope and wish that all of my fellow DC'ers had a nice safe Holiday and got what they wished for!

I've been running in 20 different directions for well over 2 weeks with moving from my home of 20+ years to a new home while trying to keep it stable, comfortable and christmassy for my 7 y/o son and have finally been able to take a breather (after Cox got me connected) to catch up here and there on the numerous pages of chat! (Bye OKODM...it was nice being neighbors but we'll catch up again! )

Couple of things I would like to take a moment to comment on...

1. I loved all the stories of parents, grandparents etc who influenced our lives. Made me stop and think about people, family and friends that are long gone and gave me a nice smile

2. Moochie: I know you're still reading but refraining from posting. Please stop and assess your relationship. There are some warning signs that will scream at you...if you just ask yourself...try this test: http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take

3. Boris...you are just SOOOOO bad (but i love it!)

4. Jake: What can I say? Can I buy you dinner? (and a nice scotch on the rocks)

5. SDG: We need to go out sometime and have fun! You're a doll.

Everyone...have a safe and joyous New Years and let's make 2008 the best ever

[iamsheens]

By mistake, some anonymous stranger put three Target Gift CARDs thru our door mail slot. They are for people we don't know (we know all our neighbors). We've lived at this house for decades. They must have had the wrong street.http://exarteproductions.com/phpBB/images/smiles/074.gif (javascript:emoticon(':smt074'))

I just thought I'd share this since it uses the word of the day.


If you'd like I'd gladly accept a Target GIFT CARD. LOL...

[iamsheens]

OMG people...I'm about to loose my mind, what do you when you have a co-worker who makes all the rules because the boss doesn't care? My co-worker is driving me insane...she comes in late, leaves early, pawns her shifts on other people, decides the day before her shift she is going to take the day off, then bitches to other co-workers when I cant promise to come in because my Uncle died and I wanted to see if my family needed my moral support...she is selfish, inconsiderate, and only EVER thinking of herself.

She is pissed cause she has to work all day tomorrow by herself because I have a funeral to attend...as if I want to go to a funeral...if given the choice I'd rather work then have to say goodbye to a family member...I'm so irritated...my other co-workers are...we say something the boss doesn't care...what am I to do? Im about to go off on someone....ugh...any suggestions would be nice...sorry I just needed to vent...and I really just touched the tip of the iceberg...

[SDGirl87]

If it were me, I'd send an email to the boss and CC the co worker. Tell him that you will be out on Saturday to attend the funeral of a family member and that you appreciate that the company is so understanding in this tough time.

I'd also ask him (her?) in the email to define what YOUR work hours are and let him (her) know that you do your best to accommodate other people's last minute requests, but you can't always do that. Also ask for the policy for switching schedules, leaving early, late arrivals etc IN WRITING for clarification. In fact, I'd copy all of the "supervisors" to cover yourself.

Then, take tomorrow off and be with your family. They need you FAR more.

I'm so sorry for your loss :(

[califbrat]

Sheeny.. ask the bi*c*y if she would like one of her family members to die after being ill for a long time & she should go to the funeral service instead of you..does she have a heart or a brain? Tell her you would trade places with her in a heartbeat but then it sounds like she wouldn't give a damm anyway..

[califbrat]

If it were me, I'd send an email to the boss and CC the co worker. Tell him that you will be out on Saturday to attend the funeral of a family member and that you appreciate that the company is so understanding in this tough time.

I'd also ask him (her?) in the email to define what YOUR work hours are and let him (her) know that you do your best to accommodate other people's last minute requests, but you can't always do that. Also ask for the policy for switching schedules, leaving early, late arrivals etc IN WRITING for clarification. In fact, I'd copy all of the "supervisors" to cover yourself.

Then, take tomorrow off and be with your family. They need you FAR more.

I'm so sorry for your loss :(

ditto sdgirl.. you always say it better & with class! I was just pissed off when I read what Sheeny has to deal with!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

If you'd like I'd gladly accept a Target GIFT CARD. LOL...

Sheens - great minds think alike! I was just about to post the SAME THING!!!

[RedWillow]

OMG people...I'm about to loose my mind, what do you when you have a co-worker who makes all the rules because the boss doesn't care? My co-worker is driving me insane...she comes in late, leaves early, pawns her shifts on other people, decides the day before her shift she is going to take the day off, then bitches to other co-workers when I cant promise to come in because my Uncle died and I wanted to see if my family needed my moral support...she is selfish, inconsiderate, and only EVER thinking of herself.

She is pissed cause she has to work all day tomorrow by herself because I have a funeral to attend...as if I want to go to a funeral...if given the choice I'd rather work then have to say goodbye to a family member...I'm so irritated...my other co-workers are...we say something the boss doesn't care...what am I to do? Im about to go off on someone....ugh...any suggestions would be nice...sorry I just needed to vent...and I really just touched the tip of the iceberg...

I can only guess that this is a small, family type business? Does your boss have a boss?

Does part of your job include covering someone else's shift? Are you getting paid overtime? Is she getting paid for shifts she's not working? Does she have regular access to money, checks, or the accounting books?

Sorry, lots of questions. But I'm a former auditor, and all my alarm bells are ringing on this chick.

[insightbyjake]

Laura's Diary, March 6th, 2007

"Dear Diary,

Forgive me for this will be short. I will fill you in on all the great and scary details tomorrow. I am going on absolutely no sleep because I was worried sick about Charlie all night. He was rushed to the hospital yesterday afternoon after he ran full-force into flag pole at school. An ambulance came to the school and strapped him down to a board! Holy cow! He seems perfectly fine, but wow, all I kept thinking was "SWELLING OF THE BRAIN SWELLING OF THE BRAIN," so I was awake listening to every little tiny noise last night.

My day started off great yesterday because I won 200 bucks on a 2 dollar scratcher. I was going to take the kids to Toys R Us for a fun shopping spree. That didn't happen because Charlie got injured.

Anyway, I will tell you more tomorrow, Diary. All's well so far today, except for my head!"
Okay, bored to death so I've been re-reading some of these through the filter of what we've been hearing over the past nine months.

"He ran full-force into a flag-pole at school."

Have you ever seen a flag-pole on the playground? Aren't they out in front of a school? Near a driveway?

And how peculiar, after the "SWELLING ON THE BRAIN," comment, comes they, "Hey, I won $200 on a scratcher!"

How bizarre is that?

It's like Jackie Kennedy's diary reading: "After the shock of the rifle fire, I thought, "Damn! I liked this pink outfit -- it fits me so well!'"

It ends with yet, another strange comment:

"All's well so far today, except for my head!"

I thought Charlie's head was the one hitting the flagpole?


Then came the famous March 9, 2007 entry:

"Dear Diary,

Just wanted to let you all know that I am fine...just been really sick. I will be back soon. Charlie is doing fine too! Thanks for all your emails and concern.

See you, diary"


Funny how the "We're more than a radio show, you're more than an audience -- we are family" showgram has refused to come clean with any aspect of what happened outside what we already knew: LBM was a spending lunatic who partied at the Lamplighter on a regular basis and had serious on-air, congestion and sinus-sniffling issues for years.

[insightbyjake]

[QUOTE=SDGirl87]If it were me, I'd send an email to the boss and CC the co worker. Tell him that you will be out on Saturday to attend the funeral of a family member and that you appreciate that the company is so understanding in this tough time.

I'd also ask him (her?) in the email to define what YOUR work hours are and let him (her) know that you do your best to accommodate other people's last minute requests, but you can't always do that. Also ask for the policy for switching schedules, leaving early, late arrivals etc IN WRITING for clarification. In fact, I'd copy all of the "supervisors" to cover yourself. [QUOTE]

If it were me I'd send an e-mail that reads:

"I know we've worked together for awhile, and I'd be remiss if I failed to tell you, what I like about you is, you're the kind of woman who can brighten any room, simply by leaving.

Happy New Year!" :cheers:

[RowdyOne]

Jake, thanks so much for posting Laura's diary entries... yep, the writing was on the wall early on and continued for so long! It would be very interesting to know what went on behind the scenes at the Spewgram while her addictions were so obvious.

Today I punched in the station while in my car, and lo and behold, Jer(k) was again spitting out his boob AKA list. How many times do we have to hear this??? Do they think it's funny? Relevant? Creative? Or that their audience is so stupid or immature they laugh every time it's repeated? Grow up and act your age, J&J (oops, maybe if they acted their chronological age they'd have no listeners at all... except maybe me since I'm one of the aged DC members)

And now we wait for them to come back "live" so it will be more entertaining? Give me a break. At least then we'll have more drama to write about here...back to the purpose of this site.

[SDGirl87]

[QUOTE=insightbyjakeIf it were me I'd send an e-mail that reads:

"I know we've worked together for awhile, and I'd be remiss if I failed to tell you, what I like about you is, you're the kind of woman who can brighten any room, simply by leaving.

Happy New Year!" :cheers:[/QUOTE]


Well, there's that option too. In fact I like it a whole lot more but somehow I think that it will not create harmony and peace...lol (someone hug a tree please?).

Simply by leaving. Love it.

[Conceptis]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.

Thank you.

[pax]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.

Thank you.


Huh?

[LisaP]

Huh?

My thoughts exactly.

Is the spewgram bored while on their umpteenth vacation of the year?

[BigAl]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.

Thank you.


Where the hellfire did this come from??? Bad, staged timing???

[BigAl]

I thought I saw Mooch on that new show..."The really exposed housewives of goldigger county", the Top Dollar episode.

[GirlfromOR]

I've seen mention of a lot of you having pets, and I have a dilemma. For Christmas my 2 oldest kids got puppies...

No advice but I just wanted to say that I'm *insanely* jealous of your kids!!! I would love having a dog, and we were going to be getting one that was just born a few weeks ago (we were on the list before the mom was even bred) but we backed out when we found out I was pregnant, since we knew the baby and the puppy would come home very close to the same time. I can't handle two babies! So jealous!!

[GirlfromOR]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.

Thank you.

Why are you carrying this on? Letitgo!

[shello]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.

Thank you.

I say....."Double Huh?"

I am still trying to figure Conceptis out. I think she may have been very transparent a while back and then took flak when she was found out.

But this post today almost seems like someone else logged in and wrote it for her. P'haps they figured out her password. Seems odd.

[SDReadhead]

I, Conceptis, hereby agree that in the spirit of the holidays and in just being a good neighbor will not post anything negative about certain parties of the showgram here again. I further agree to promote the showgram as what it truly is: Innovative, inspirational, spiritual (even to animals), cutting edge, top notch, at the peak of brilliance, and most of all an excellently produced show, in fact the best in all of San Diego.

Conceptis, wasn't this apology you posted earlier in the holiday season good enough for them? Sheisk, sorry they caught on to your real ID, but do you honestly care that they are upset with you? Perhaps you are a neighbor who has to keep the peace or something. Oh well, I hope they don't make you apologize yet again. Do they make you swear on the Bible as you type your post? Does FH hold you hostage by threatening to sit on you or make you smell the blue shirt he wears everyday? Farewell, Conceptis. :wavey2:

[GirlfromOR]

Are we allowed to share PM'ed info? I've got some interesting stuff about Conceptis and the FH connection. It really makes NO sense, but it's about how/why Conceptis was called out by FH, and about how he came to know who she is.

[insightbyjake]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.
Thank you.

No...Thank you!!

[insightbyjake]

"Best of" today: Jeff and Jer interviewing a 106-year-old bowler from the south....

Jeff: "God Bless You!!!...We love having you on the air!!!"

Jeff's "bit" (as asked by FH): Let's ask him how much his balls weigh!!!


Hee, hee, hee,.....such comedy brilliance!!!

That Jeff....such a good Christian man, and so adept at double entendres....

"Nearer My God to Thee..."....Jeff...the ultimate Christian male!!

[iamsheens]

Well maybe I need to further explain the situation. I haven't gone to my boss because he had a stroke a week ago and has been doing half days at work in his recovery process..we don't do email at work so I'd have to go directly to him and in the scheme of things I just feel like I'd be burdening him given what he's been through this past week and I just don't feel like he needs the added stress.

Yest. after I posted that one post more stuff happened...she was rearranging our set schedules...what part of set schedules needs to be arranged? oh...the parts where she is too lazy to come into work or stay a full shift...She told my other co-worker that our boss said to make the schedules and to leave me and my other co-worker out of it because we bitch too much....which is really funny because my boss and I have never communicated...he's only been my boss for about a month and he's never even acknowledged that he is indeed my boss...so I don't know how he would know I'm bitching given the fact I have never talked to him...

I am ready to go to his boss who is the general manager of my work but everyone is telling me to hold off...my whole thought process is that if she doesn't want to work her set schedule she was given when she started 3 months ago then she needs to find a job with flexible hours. I just am appalled that someone who has only worked at my establishment for 3 months is making her own rules and stuff and I've worked there for 4 years and have never complained or tried to pawn my hours off on other people so I can spend a day with my boyfriend because he was gone out of town for barely a week, or take his birthday off, or leave early because I just don't like my job enough to stay the whole shift, or come in late because I have hair, nail, and whatever other types of appointments. I've always stuck to my shifts...ugh my work establishment is ran horribly sometimes...I guess I just have higher work ethics than most people so it really irritates me. If I weren't moving so soon I'd just go look for another job but until then I just have to put up with this stuff...anyways I also wish I weren't such a push over and could say no to people...me not wanting to piss anyone off doesn't really help the situation.

[Wabbitsd]

If one were to share private message information, it should be done in a way that disguises the source to an extent. no direct "secret informant told me XXX" and if someone calls you on a source, you do what the papers do, say it is a reliable source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. and it wouldn't hurt to toss in some kind of left curve...like "A red headed freckled informant" when the ACTUAL informant was a blonde, non-freckled person.

I will offer what I said to Conceptis before...reregister with a new name.

And Moochie, baby. why in the name of Methusela would anyone FORCE a person to apologize here over and over...and control their comings and goings like that? IF it is you doing this to whomever be Conceptis, you, my dear, are a raging control freak. If it is your beloved social experiment/project/fame-train wanna be FH, well, open your eyes. This person has serious control issues. IF you don't want to be swallowed up and be nothing more than a dangling ornament on his arm...get out, get out fast. And get your kids out of his reach, as well.

[shello]

Are we allowed to share PM'ed info? I've got some interesting stuff about Conceptis and the FH connection. It really makes NO sense, but it's about how/why Conceptis was called out by FH, and about how he came to know who she is.


I say,"Go for it." Didn't she even put her street name by her DC member name in the line that says location ? She was thinly veiled on this board. Or, GirlfromOR you can just send/not send the info to me. No one will know as I will never tell.

[Texasgirl]

I was wondering about the origin of Conceptis. Catholic? Latin? It seemed like an unusual moniker, so I googled it and discovered that it is the name of a puzzle website. Hhmmmmmm.

As for the freeloading coworker: document, document, document. You will need some ammunition when she turns on you and goes to your infirm boss. She won't have any compunctions about bothering him.

Changing topics completely: I just watched a piece on the local NBC news that featured a woman who created scarves for people undergoing cancer treatment. The wearer applied hair extensions to the inside of the scarf for a cooler version of a wig. Why is my brain thinking that I heard about these on this board? Does anyone else remember?

DC#44

[Wabbitsd]

RecoveringLstner,
Welcome to the world of bassets...I don't know what is going on, I ended up with a "free Basset" as well... but back about mid-Octoberish, I adopted one from a lady on Craigslist...Bailey. Bailey had already been through three homes, and the lady who put her up had an older one already, and the older one was being mean to Bailey....so she checked out the four or five people who responded, and we were the lucky winners. She's such a doll...but they do need lots and lots of exercise. All I can say is wear them out during the day, or they WILL be up all nite.

They should settle into your routine shortly...it just takes patience and working them to your schedule.

She's (thankfully) nearly a year old. My first puppy venture. Ohmylordie.

There is a meetup on January 12th at the dog park over by mesa college at 11:00...if you survive that long, there are some great people there who really know pups.

Bailey sleeps in bed with my daughter...but up til about this last week, she had to get up at about 3:00 or so to make a necessary trip outside.

ohmygosh. I can't imagine the mass puppy type destruction you are in for with two of them. Nothing like furniture, but things like shoes, etc. We pretty much use her for breaking down cardboard boxes for recycling....but they are so cute, aren't they? I wish I could take in another one.

[Wabbitsd]

sheens, do you think the boss really thinks you are a "bitcher?" if so, it sounds like a good time to find a new job. On the other hand, if this boss is only aware of what this creep has been telling him, Maybe a move to push her out is in order? Document document document, as mentioned before, but maybe it should be mentioned that she clearly needs more flexibility in her schedule than is possible. How long has she been there, and do you think the boss thinks she is doing a good job?

[Trixie]

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[OneKidOneDogMom]

There is a meetup on January 12th at the dog park over by mesa college at 11:00...if you survive that long, there are some great people there who really know pups.

This is an excellent idea for gathering info, but please don't take your puppies to a dog park until they have had ALL their puppy shots. Parvo and other horrible diseases that puppies don't have immunity from are out there and there is no need to subject your babies to that....

The rule of thumb that I go with is only socialize your pups with dogs that you KNOW have had their vaccinations and are healthy, at least until they have all their shots.

We need pictures of the puppies - and do they still have puppy breath?????

[Stact]

Conceptis,
Why apologize over and over. You really didn't say anything horrible.
Why was Moochie all over Conceptis and Amused any way? They were simply offering her insight on XXXFH. It sounds like Moochie is jealous of Amused and the money that FH gives her. Is it cutting into your share of the jackpot Mooch?

[RedWillow]

I am ready to go to his boss who is the general manager of my work but everyone is telling me to hold off...

You need to speak to the General Manager as soon as possible about the situation.

You do not have to throw anyone under the bus, just explain that you need to have the supervisory situation clarified. That your schedule has been adjusted without proper authority, and you feel you are being penalized for having a death in the family.

[Mom2ThreeBoys]

GirlfromOR, normally I'd say no to sharing PM'd information publicly, but I think everyone would agree to an exception in this case.


Didn't she even put her street name by her DC member name in the line that says location?
Oh, do share! I saw it at the time but I don't remember what it said.


He was rushed to the hospital yesterday afternoon after he ran full-force into flag pole at school. An ambulance came to the school and strapped him down to a board!
Too bad you had to hear all this second hand since you were whacked out and nowhere to be found, thus leading to your immediate spiral into the legal system and into rehab.

[LisaP]

We are just minutes from joining the "we have a new puppy" group. We are leaving shortly to get our Xmas Black Lab. Something that my husband has wanted for months. Wish me luck. I am a "cat person" and a "neat freak". Fortunately, he is on the same page with me for the training of the new puppy. Now if we could just get SIL [who will be spending much time with puppy] in on "our" program.

And OneKidOneDogMom is right on waiting to take the puppy around others. My husband almost lost a dog to Parvo thanks to Dog Beach.

[iamsheens]

sheens, do you think the boss really thinks you are a "bitcher?" if so, it sounds like a good time to find a new job. On the other hand, if this boss is only aware of what this creep has been telling him, Maybe a move to push her out is in order? Document document document, as mentioned before, but maybe it should be mentioned that she clearly needs more flexibility in her schedule than is possible. How long has she been there, and do you think the boss thinks she is doing a good job?

well i dont see how i could be a bitcher considering him and I never talk she he would be basing this on whatever my co-worker is saying....the only reason im at my job is cause im moving within the next month to another state so no reason to look for a new job in my current state for such a small amount of time. He just doesnt really care about what we do and now that hes had a stroke i think he would probably care even less since he has his health to worry about. She has only been at my work for about 3 months. And I have no idea if he thinks she does a good job but its just not me who is fed up with her...people are just too afraid to speak up...ugh....oh well I guess i just need to suck it up and hope i leave this state soon.

[listener13]

Are we allowed to share PM'ed info? I've got some interesting stuff about Conceptis and the FH connection. It really makes NO sense, but it's about how/why Conceptis was called out by FH, and about how he came to know who she is.

Ordinarily, I'd say no. But these people are such monumental control freaks, I suggest we teach them a lesson.

And much as they would LOVE to think that they control us, they don't. They may control their families and their friends (and goldigging fiances), but they don't control us.

I'm thinking that Conceptis has something to do with the education of Moochie's son (maybe she's a teacher - but she's involved in his education, probably his day-to-day life) - I'm sure that Mooch strongarmed her into "apologizing" - whatever.

[shello]

Ordinarily, I'd say no. But these people are such monumental control freaks, I suggest we teach them a lesson.

And much as they would LOVE to think that they control us, they don't. They may control their families and their friends (and goldigging fiances), but they don't control us.

I'm thinking that Conceptis has something to do with the education of Moochie's son (maybe she's a teacher - but she's involved in his education, probably his day-to-day life) - I'm sure that Mooch strongarmed her into "apologizing" - whatever.

I agree that Conceptis worked in the educ. field and I will bet that somehow she got in trouble through her employer. Afterall, Mooch is a Big-Deal-in-Training.

[Wabbitsd]

OneKid...you have a point about the puppies...actually, pups under about 6 months are probably too young to hang with the dogs at a park anyway...my girl is still spooked by the older dogs. AS you say, good for gathering info...some really knowledgable folks about the breed are there...

and as far as the CAPITAL M Mooch and her beau of FH proportions...he who hasn't figured out if she is a male or female, since he still calls her his "fiance;" if she were to stoop to threatening someone on a public message board, she is sadder and less of a kind, sharing and open person than she would like to believe.

wow, they can use the legal system to try to hide who they are.

NEWSFLASH: quit acting as you do, and there will be nothing to talk about!

[listener13]

I hereby apologize to Michelle and her family for any postings I have made about them and vow never to do so again. I am embarassed by my actions. I in fact will never visit or post here again.

Thank you.

Conceptis: I see you online checking the site right now.....so much for never visiting.

Personally, I applaud you - I wouldn't let a little toad tell me what to do.

[Layla]

Conceptis PMed me last time she pulled one of thse stunts and I called her out on the stupidity of it. She said that she was trying to "get to them" with her posts. Basically implied that they had not threatened her at all. That she knew being Michelle's neighbor, they were bothered by her posting. None of it made sense then. it doesn't make sense now.
I would love for one of them to try to make me stop posting here. Maybe Mooch can get a court order?

[RowdyOne]

Trixie, it was fun reading all those DC names again, even those who have disappeared (or should have). 180 names, maybe 20 weekly posters? C'mon you invisible ones, let's hear from you again! Of course, I understand there really is nothing new to talk about re the spewgram. :boring:

[SDGirl87]

I say, that in the absence of anything new from the spewgram, that we make up our own stories!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

We are just minutes from joining the "we have a new puppy" group.

I'm definitely available for puppy kisses if you need a break from your new little one... ;)

[pax]

I'm hoping that Conceptis' PM's will be posted soon...

On the puppy note. I went insane when my now-4-year-old daughter was 2 and I wanted a dog. We went to Balboa Park one day and FOCAS (Friends of County Animal Shelters) was having an event with lots of dogs available for adoption. Just walking around them made me remember my daughter's infancy and how much work it was. I didn't want to do that again (though I now have a 16 month old son).

I think dogs are awesome, but I also think people underestimate the amount of work required to keep a dog healthy and happy.

[RowdyOne]

I say, that in the absence of anything new from the spewgram, that we make up our own stories! Do we use SurfingTexan/Holly/Sunnie as an example? LOL

[SDGirl87]

Here's a story
Of a funny showgram
That a long time ago was a decent show
It had 2 hosts, and a bunch of others
The youngest one, he lived at home

It's a story
Of the same dumb spewgram
That is no longer funny any more
There are 4 men and a former junkie
Who now lives all alone

Til the one day when the Moochie met the Forum
And we all had much more than a hunch
That this troll was doing Tubby's bidding
That's the way we all became the DC Bunch

The DC Bunch
The DC Bunch
That's the way we became the DC Bunch

[califbrat]

Here's a story
Of a funny showgram
That a long time ago was a decent show
It had 2 hosts, and a bunch of others
The youngest one, he lived at home

It's a story
Of the same dumb spewgram
That is no longer funny any more
There are 4 men and a former junkie
Who now lives all alone

Til the one day when the Moochie met the Forum
And we all had much more than a hunch
That this troll was doing Tubby's bidding
That's the way we all became the DC Bunch

The DC Bunch
The DC Bunch
That's the way we became the DC Bunch


SDgirl..

I think my husband was going to ask me what I was singing to in the kitchen.. ( laptop is on the counter-top side with the chairs ) so hip.. and true to life! and how many sangria's have you had?? And a huge YES.. I want to here all and any dirt / PM from our favorite spewgrams peeps! Keep it comming!

[LisaP]

SDGirl87 you ROCK!

pax ~ I agree with you on the work required to keep a dog [or a cat or any animal] healthy and happy. We have waited six months since we lost our last dog to get this one. We have a FIV+/diabetic cat in the house plus SIL's cat. I would have TONS of animals, if I had the time and the money. For us, we keep it to what we can give the time and care to and can afford.

OneKidOneDogMom ~ I have gotten quite a few of those 'puppy kisses'. This little black puppy definately KNOWS who to kiss up to in this household.

[Alpinemaps]

We are just minutes from joining the "we have a new puppy" group. We are leaving shortly to get our Xmas Black Lab. Something that my husband has wanted for months. Wish me luck.

Good luck! I'm a huge Black Lab fan, and I'm very jealous.

The first weekend in May, we attempted to adopt a black lab puppy from the San Diego ASPCA. It didn't work out. (They wouldn't adopt to us because Mrs. Alpinemaps doesn't stay home during the day - I kid you not).

Mrs. Alpinemaps and I had a realization this weekend. She's 36 weeks pregnant as of tomorrow. We realized that she was about 3 days pregnant when we went to adopt the dog. It all worked out for the best, because I can't imagine having to deal with a young dog *and* a newborn at the same time!

[GirlfromOR]

Conceptis PMed me last time she pulled one of thse stunts and I called her out on the stupidity of it. She said that she was trying to "get to them" with her posts. Basically implied that they had not threatened her at all. That she knew being Michelle's neighbor, they were bothered by her posting. None of it made sense then. it doesn't make sense now.
I would love for one of them to try to make me stop posting here. Maybe Mooch can get a court order?

Yeah, this is the gist of what I've been told by her too. Apparently now though it has changed and she's really pissed them off. Layla, your last line in this posting isn't too far off! Anyone is welcome to PM me for the "rest of the story." It's really juicy but I don't know if it is true or not yet, so I don't want to post it on here just in case it is true..

[shello]

Ah, ladies...we are SOL. Jimmy Fallon has gotten married. And to an older woman! He is 33 and she is 40. Then again, my hubby is 4 yrs younger than I. Just thought I would share as he seems like a pretty good guy.

[SDGirl87]

Ah, ladies...we are SOL. Jimmy Fallon has gotten married. And to an older woman! He is 33 and she is 40. Then again, my hubby is 4 yrs younger than I. Just thought I would share as he seems like a pretty good guy.


Did they hire the DC Band for the reception?

[Wabbitsd]

I tell you what, a 10 month old Basset is a ball of energy. She's my first young dog...I usually adopt older dogs...Have had a bad time with Humane Society, but the folks at the El Cajon Animal Shelter and the South Bay one rock. That whole showcase Humane Society mixed with the Animal Control on Sherman Street is too laa tee dah for me.

[SDNative]

Since Dave, Shelly and Chainsaw are on vacation, I tried to listen to the J&J noise... but it is too painful. I used to enjoy them before I realized the truth... what a shame.

Happy New Year to you all.:shake:

[shello]

The DC Band is playing New Year's eve and have gotten quite good. They will play for cheeseburgers....cash is not needed.

On another note, LBM's old friend, Chris (I am so full of myself) Cantore has left 91X. WOnder if he will be hanging out at Laura's new Kensington pad in the days to come?

Can someone really invade one's privacy if that someone is a local radio personality with BDC aka Big Deal Complex. And when that Big Deal voluntarily shares info to the public that would/could allow the public to know pertinent info about them - is that invading privacy? What about seeking out and dating public figures like Junior Seau, Michael Tuck and TOmmy Sablan?

[pax]

Good points, Shello. People make the decision to give up a lot of their privacy when they become or are associated with "Big Deals."

[Wabbitsd]

shello...depends on what is privacy, I would think. I think we all are aware anyone can sue for anything....whether or not they will win is a whole 'nother deal.

Now, my PERSONAL opinion of any kind of an attorney who would take such a case is that he is obviously NOT A BIG deal, has a whole lot of time on his hands, and hoping to gain publicity...ANY publicity....and he is likely a STAR struck kind of guy, if you know what I mean.

[pax]

Touche, Wabbitsd!

[listener13]

I do think it's curious that we haven't heard a peep from the "wee one" in a while - None of his usual drivel - how GREAT his life is, how well his MOM is doing, how much his KIDS love him, how important MOOCHIE is to him - yada yada yada.

Maybe he's taken the hint that if he has nothing new to post, then don't post. Or, I wonder if there's trouble in paradise and he's scrambling to spin it into something that he can use to garner the "big deal" attention that he thinks he so rightly deserves.

Nah - big deals only listen to their own big deal bull****.

[GirlfromOR]

Many people suggested (after reading this via forwarded PM) that I post this on the board for everybody to see. So here it is!



I am an attorney in El Cajon and I represent Tommy Sablan and Michelle Neuenswander. I have been reading what you posted on the Gotapex forums, including personal information about Ms. Neuenswander and her children. I am prepared to file an invasion of privacy lawsuit against you on behalf of Ms. Neuenswander, but you can avoid litigation if the following conditions are met:

(1) My clients want to know your identity without having to subpoena the information from Gotapex; (2) My clients want a public apology posted on this website; (3) My clients want removal of all of your postings with their personal that I will outline below and removal of Michelle's street name for your profile; and (4) My clients want no further postings online by you about Michelle or any of the her children.

If you comply with the conditions above, Michelle is prepared to give you a full release of any monetary claims she and her children might have against you. We are not asking for money, just for you to respect their privacy by not posting their personal information. You can reach me at (619) 448-2129 to discuss this matter further.

Here are the links to the postings that we want you to remove:

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-453.html#post1224776

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-263.html#post1209125

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-245.html#post1207454

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-241.html#post1206843

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-247.html#post1207668

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-247.html#post1207674

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-251.html#post1208063

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-252.html#post1208099

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-252.html#post1208108

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-251.html#post1208064

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-252.html#post1208066
http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-253.html#post1208244

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-254.html#post1208284

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-254.html#post1208289

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-205.html#post1202447

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-206.html#post1202527

http://www.gotapex.com/region-specific-deals/90425-san-diego-94-1-fm-j-and-j-morning-show-drama-club-thread-207.html#post1202653

This was sent by Conceptis. How many of you think this is true? I certainly don't! Nobody has broken any laws in posting here. The information posted here is all pretty much public knowledge or handed to us by FH himself.

[GirlfromOR]

My issues w/ this "Attorney's" letter:
1) What kind of Attorney PM's a demand letter on behalf of his client. Especially when his client knows who Conceptis is (as evidenced by FH's blog) and where she lives (she said she gave her street address in her profile). This is not professional. I would think that it would come by certified mail, return recipt requested, whatever.

2) Why doesn't the attorney give his name and the law firm that he works for? The phone number is for a law firm, but that doesn't mean anything. They could have pulled it from the white pages.

3) What laws has Conceptis broken?

I think Michelle wrote this. Or Conceptis wrote this. Maybe they are the same person. My theory is that FH hopes that a rumor about a lawyer will make us shut up and stop posting the truth about him. I wonder if this has anything to do w/ him no longer blogging.

[GirlfromOR]

Listner13, maybe he'll use this board as the reason his relationship breaks up! Moochie couldn't take the mean people from the drama board posting meaningless tidbits about her life, so FH set her free.

[listener13]

Listner13, maybe he'll use this board as the reason his relationship breaks up! Moochie couldn't take the mean people from the drama board posting meaningless tidbits about her life, so FH set her free.

You're right - it couldn't possibly be about his controlling, manipulative, megalomanic behavior - it would have to be our fault that Moochie moved on.

Or, maybe another local quasi-celebrity just hit the market again, and she moved up on the food chain......Rod Luck or Ted Leitner perhaps?

[listener13]

My issues w/ this "Attorney's" letter:
1) What kind of Attorney PM's a demand letter on behalf of his client. Especially when his client knows who Conceptis is (as evidenced by FH's blog) and where she lives (she said she gave her street address in her profile). This is not professional. I would think that it would come by certified mail, return recipt requested, whatever.

2) Why doesn't the attorney give his name and the law firm that he works for? The phone number is for a law firm, but that doesn't mean anything. They could have pulled it from the white pages.

3) What laws has Conceptis broken?

I think Michelle wrote this. Or Conceptis wrote this. Maybe they are the same person. My theory is that FH hopes that a rumor about a lawyer will make us shut up and stop posting the truth about him. I wonder if this has anything to do w/ him no longer blogging.

He lists this website in his profile:
http://www.chs-law.com/

[listener13]

2) Why doesn't the attorney give his name and the law firm that he works for? The phone number is for a law firm, but that doesn't mean anything. They could have pulled it from the white pages.


He lists this website in his profile:
http://www.chs-law.com/

[FitnessGirl]

What kind of attorney accepts PayPal? Seriously. Conceptis, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[GirlfromOR]

HAHAHA I didn't even notice the paypal thing! LOL. Wouldn't it be funny if he posted this lawyer's phone number and website and isn't a client? I'm sure whoever wrote this letter could get into trouble for that. Does anyone here happen to know the lawyer? If this is a friend of FH&M, he's stupid for getting involved in these games.

My favorite part of the website lists his areas of expertise:

My practice in business, construction, civil
litigation and bankruptcy law in San Diego
is focused on solving problems for my
clients. I provide competent and
compassionate help in the following areas:

Bankruptcy
Business Formation (Corporations
& LLCs)
Business Law & Litigation
Construction Law
Debt Collection
Subrogation Claims

[RedWillow]

Many people suggested (after reading this via forwarded PM) that I post this on the board for everybody to see. So here it is!



This was sent by Conceptis. How many of you think this is true? I certainly don't! Nobody has broken any laws in posting here. The information posted here is all pretty much public knowledge or handed to us by FH himself.

Well, it looks like Conceptis took it serious and deleted the posts listed.

Looks like Michelle got a lawyer friend to legally bully her neighbor.

I wonder if her boss, the Judge, knows that she is using her position to unduly influence and harass someone? Not to mention allowing an unauthorized person access into a restricted building after-hours?

Maybe we have it all wrong? Maybe Michelle and Flubby were made for each other? They seem to be cut from the same rotted cloth.

[Wabbitsd]

Hey, just google this clown of a lawyer's name....you can see pix of HIS family and he and his wife and daughter (does he not know it's not a good idea to post young kids' pictures on the internet where ANYONE can see them?) and they went to Jingle Ball, and woweee got their pix taken there. I bet Tommy got them extra prints in exchange for his letter.

He is also a failed politician...ran for office in what, 2004?

Conceptis, if you are around...if these people KNEW who you were, why would they use a message board to send you the message? they would have sent it via mail, unless, of course, the lawyer and client were arguing over who would pay the delivery service...no, wait...who would pay for the postage stamp.

So I wonder, what would happen if this lawyer's office started getting a boatload of phonecalls (please do this from phones which cannot be traced back to you) asking what kind of scare tactics these were? And maybe USD ought to hear about the kind of sleazoids they are graduating...assuming he really DID graduate from USD, and didn't, as so many folks in DC tried at one time...but then when they got called on the carpet, it was more like "maybe I took a weekend clinic there..." or "My secretary made a mistake in typing my vitae...I really only drove BY that campus, I didnt' actually attend that school...."

Methinks Moochie is friends with this guy's wife. Take a look at the pix they have posted of themselves...she looks like Moochie's type... AND their daughter's name is Michelle...again, right there, for all the world to see. no SECRETS in that family, eh?\

p.s. I was going to continue to be obtuse about this, but since someone else posted the whole PM, it's out in the open now!

We can only expect to hear Tommy shilling this guy's "services" right there with King Stahlman, soon!!!

[SDGirl87]

Further (that's my attempt at sounding lawyerly), any reputable attorney would refer to his clients as Mr. Sablan and Ms. Whatever her name is...not as Tommy and Michelle. I also have never seen a letter written by an attorney worded "my clients" so many times. Most of the time, they say "we".

Also, posting links to individual entries isn't kosher. A "real" case would require printouts, hard copies, of the offending entries for proof. Now that they've been deleted, there is absolutely NO proof of anything whatsoever, so if in the future, "Conceptis" bugs the snot out of them again, they have no recourse.

It's a scam. I agree with whomever said that Moochie wrote this. She thinks that we're all idiots. We learned from Sunnie. Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice? Won't happen.

I'm off to church. (For real).

[Carol]

*sigh* This is all so silly! It should all fall under the same grouping of hoaxes as Mooche and Surfin_Texan.


Raise your hand if you think all of this is 100% Bull$hit that has been cooked up by the character know to us as conceptis? :rolleyes:







:wavey2:

[Trixie]

I say bring it on! I'll call Turko on their radio shin-nano-guns. :johnwoo2:

Or maybe a favor from Kerry Steigerwald would be in order.

Eww, the drama. The Freedom of Speech issues. This is going to be a great 2008.

p.s. May I suggest that the Evacuation Zone be closed to any new members (unless they get clearance from the moderator). You may want to have a cut off date back in mid December.

We can always move away from Apex and carry on with Yahoo. (Plan B)

[Texasgirl]

Very interesting reading! I can just visualize FH, Mooch, the lawyer, paralegals, and the rest spending days reading the hundred+ pages of the DC blog. I would bet that no matter what they all believed about FH, LBM, etc.. when they began, their opinion must have changed for the worst. There is just too much evidence provided in other public forums (the Spewgram, Star website, FH blogs)that we discuss here for anyone to continue believing the drivel they hand us every day. So Tommy, you started this. We are just watching the meltdown.

DC#44

[pax]

Ooh, I'm loving this! It's such a scam... I, too, am shocked that Conceptis really got scared of these pathetic people.

[Carol]

I don't think conceptis got scared at all....

I think that Moochie=conceptis

[pax]

I don't think conceptis got scared at all....

I think that Moochie=conceptis

Hmm....now I am trying to remember the stuff Conceptis wrote about...coming up blank.

[Trixie]

I don't think conceptis got scared at all....

I think that Moochie=conceptis

Moocheptis

[pax]

Concoochie

[Wabbitsd]

didn't she offer a first hand report of the lovely skateboard ramp in front of the house?

[pax]

I vaguely recall that she reported whether FH's truck was parked at Moochie's house or not.

[iamsheens]

hmmm interesting developements through the night...that website for the supposed attorney is a bankruptcy attorney...how would a bankruptcy attorney be able to help moochie and tommy with filing suits against conceptis? it doesnt add up...My favorite excluding the paypal is that he has yahoo messenger...seems kinda odd to me...

ah how i love this drama...much better than real life drama...

P.S. I have a unopened copy of THE SECRET if anyone would like it...I'll gladly send it to you. I refuse to watch it.

[iamsheens]

didn't she offer a first hand report of the lovely skateboard ramp in front of the house?

even if she did it doesnt matter because others who didnt live in the area went by and confirmed the stupid skate ramp in the front yard...its not like tommy keeps anything personal...

[iamsheens]

you know I just finished taking a media law class and they really don't have a case against conceptis. the only way they would have a case is if the information she posted was false and she shared the information knowing it was false. If the information such as Moochie's address was in fact true then thats not a case. If somebody really wanted to know Moochie's address all they have to do is look in the phone book and really now-a-days if they are a private number and address you can pay $19.95 online to get that information....I really dont think this is an invasion of privacy case like they are trying to claim...and Im pretty sure you can only subpeona a person if you have a case going through trial and they do not...I think whoever emailed conceptis tried to scare her with a few legal terms. I would almost go on a limb and say this is illegal. Im not sure...I know we have someone on our board who can answer this....QA what do you know?

[Layla]

I think it's Surfin_MoochCeptis, personally

[listener13]

Hey, just google this clown of a lawyer's name....you can see pix of HIS family and he and his wife and daughter (does he not know it's not a good idea to post young kids' pictures on the internet where ANYONE can see them?)

How dumb is that? He's got pictures of his daughter in her pjs opening her Christmas gifts. Why do people post photos like this on the internet? Haven't we learned enough about pedophiles to know better than to do stuff like that?

Whatever - apparently FH's friends are no smarter than he is. I'm sure this lawyer is going to be thrilled to have been sucked into the FH and Moochie dysfunctionpalooza.

[iamsheens]

I am an attorney in El Cajon and I represent Tommy Sablan and Michelle Neuenswander. I have been reading what you posted on the Gotapex forums, including personal information about Ms. Neuenswander and her children. I am prepared to file an invasion of privacy lawsuit against you on behalf of Ms. Neuenswander, but you can avoid litigation if the following conditions are met:

(1) My clients want to know your identity without having to subpoena the information from Gotapex; (2) My clients want a public apology posted on this website; (3) My clients want removal of all of your postings with their personal that I will outline below and removal of Michelle's street name for your profile; and (4) My clients want no further postings online by you about Michelle or any of the her children.

If you comply with the conditions above, Michelle is prepared to give you a full release of any monetary claims she and her children might have against you. We are not asking for money, just for you to respect their privacy by not posting their personal information. You can reach me at (619) 448-2129 to discuss this matter further.


Ok Im dissecting this some more...it beats packing...so I looked up invasion of privacy and according to the constitution law center website its defined as this

Invasion of Privacy.--Governmental power to protect the privacy interests of its citizens by penalizing publication or authorizing causes of action for publication implicates directly First Amendment rights. Privacy is a concept composed of several aspects.160 As a tort concept, it embraces at least four branches of protected interests: protection from unreasonable intrusion upon one's seclusion, from appropriation of one's name or likeness, from unreasonable publicity given to one's private life, and from publicity which unreasonably places one in a false light before the public.161

Which if I remember correctly you can only sue publications who invade your privacy...and even if Moochie could press charges she again has to provve that conceptis was knowingly giving out information that was false...you have to prove that and its almost impossible to prove...and really in this situation the information is correct so that is not even a case of invasion of privacy. And was Conceptis ever talking about Tommy or Moochie in a negative aspect? Even if she was she is protected under the first amendment and the information she would have to be sharing would have to again be completely wrong...Im sorry but due to her relationship she is a public figure, as much as it probably sucks you have to expect criticism good or bad and information to be given out that doesnt reflect you in a good manner...its life...I look at it this way...

they cant sue conceptis for posting Moochie's address that isnt invasion of privacy, if it was don't you think every single celebrity would sue because their addresses are posted in those hollywood maps? Invasion of privacy is more like hiding in bushes to take pictures of someone...if Moochie wanted to even try and procceed with this case I think can sue more for false light but still its really not a case.

You also cannot demand somebody from not posting on a forum...at least I dont think...Im so annoyed by this letter and I still dont get why a bankruptcy attorney would handle this situation.

Granted without the media law class I took if I had recieved an email I probably would have freaked out too but if you know the laws or know someone who knows the laws then it'd be apparent this is Tommy and Moochie attempting to scare you...what possibly could happen...Tommy is going to find out who you are and come over and sit on you for punishment?

Plus given tommy's history it would almost be safe to say that he would start harassing conceptis...assuming she is a real person.

I just cant believe there are so many loosers who get online to mess with people, talk about needing a life.

[listener13]

I think Conceptis is someone from the showgram, and they're playing this little staged charade to try and get us all afraid of the big, bad, fat Guamanian wolf. The one thing they would love is for us to just go away. So, why not scare someone (or let US think they scared someone).

We're still not buying any of it, FH. Like Judge Judy says, even on your smartest day, you'll never be as smart as us.

Oh, and Judge Judy is drafting up a complaint from this forum to you, Moochie, to keep YOU from harassing US.

[Mom2ThreeBoys]

removal of Michelle's street name for your profile
Technically, conceptis was posting her own address. No one on that street gets exclusive use of the name.


If you comply with the conditions above, Michelle is prepared to give you a full release of any monetary claims she and her children might have against you.
This is quite possibily extortion.

Of course, the whole thing is a farce so the point is moot.

[shello]

We're still not buying any of it, FH. Like Judge Judy says, even on your smartest day, you'll never be as smart as us.Oh, and Judge Judy is drafting up a complaint from this forum to you, Moochie, to keep YOU from harassing US.

I love Judge Judy *watch her every night) and I am fond of ya too, listener13, but you missed JJs most famous comment that seemed to be made for Moochelle..."Beauty fades, but dumb lasts forevah." (That's JJ NYC accent)

Oh, and Rod Luck has a beautiful and very smart wife, Sally. When I worked at KUSI a zillion years ago and met her several times I would kid Rod (a sweetheart when you get down to it) and say,"How in the world did you get a gal like her?"

Now Leitner may be between wives at this time.....I dunno.

And true, a lawyer would not send a PM message through a site if he were real. It would come in the mail.

[Carol]

I think it's Surfin_MoochCeptis, personally


I agree 100%

[Texasgirl]

I am a Judge Judy fan, also. I love the title of one of her books: "Don't Pee on my Leg, and Tell Me It's Raining."

[insightbyjake]

I love Judge Judy *watch her every night) and I am fond of ya too, listener13, but you missed JJs most famous comment that seemed to be made for Moochelle..."Beauty fades, but dumb lasts forevah." (That's JJ NYC accent)

Oh, and Rod Luck has a beautiful and very smart wife, Sally. When I worked at KUSI a zillion years ago and met her several times I would kid Rod (a sweetheart when you get down to it) and say,"How in the world did you get a gal like her?"

Now Leitner may be between wives at this time.....I dunno.

And true, a lawyer would not send a PM message through a site if he were real. It would come in the mail.

Perhaps a better quote comes (roughly translated) from Aristophanes:

"Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but STUPID lasts forever."

I like the fact there are five statements....and five original Showgram cast members...hmmm.

"Youth ages [Jer], immaturity is outgrown [Randy], ignorance can be educated [Jeff], and drunkenness sobered [LBM], but STUPID lasts forever." [Let's hear it for FH!!!"] :cheers:

[zodiac]

"Youth ages [Jer], immaturity is outgrown [Randy], ignorance can be educated [Jeff], and drunkenness sobered [LBM], but STUPID lasts forever." [Let's hear it for FH!!!"] :cheers:


Jake you rock!!!

[cattychathy]

you know I just finished taking a media law class and they really don't have a case against conceptis. the only way they would have a case is if the information she posted was false and she shared the information knowing it was false. If the information such as Moochie's address was in fact true then thats not a case. If somebody really wanted to know Moochie's address all they have to do is look in the phone book and really now-a-days if they are a private number and address you can pay $19.95 online to get that information....I really dont think this is an invasion of privacy case like they are trying to claim...and Im pretty sure you can only subpeona a person if you have a case going through trial and they do not...I think whoever emailed conceptis tried to scare her with a few legal terms. I would almost go on a limb and say this is illegal. Im not sure...I know we have someone on our board who can answer this....QA what do you know?

I am an attorney. For various reasons I'm not going to provide legal advice or specific analysis on these issues, but would like to clarify some misinformation. Here are some general statements of the relevant areas of law as I understand them.

The right of privacy is a broad concept, which encompasses both federal and state law. What was quoted on the constitutional law center website is likely a broad generalization of the status of federal law, not necessarily California law. The issue of posting on message boards is fairly recent and I do not believe the law in this area has been fully developed.

The issue of defamation (libel or slander) is well established in California. Courts have ruled in the past that truth is an absolute defense to a defamation action.

Additionally, the professional rules of conduct for attorneys generally prohibit a lawyer from threatening criminal action in order to gain leverage in a civil matter.

Subpoenas can be issued by an attorney, as they are officers of the court. A trial is not necessary in order to issue a subpoena. Subpoenas can be issued for a number of things, including production of documents. Subpoenas are not limited to compelling courtroom testimony.

The California State Bar performs a background check for each applicant prior to admission to the bar. This includes verifying where an applicant went to school.

I hope this clarifies the issue a little. I am not trying to be cryptic in my response, but, as an attorney, I am bound by certain rules which regulate providing legal advice. Please don't be offended if I cannot offer anything further on these issues. What I have posted here is not offered as specific legal advice, I just want you all to be careful when reading "legal" information provided by websites. The law is often more complex than these websites suggest.

[Layla]

So hypothtically, would a lawyer, A) Send something like this through a PM and B) would it be something to take seriously if in fact a lawyer had communicated in this matter?
I am an attorney. For various reasons I'm not going to provide legal advice or specific analysis on these issues, but would like to clarify some misinformation. Here are some general statements of the relevant areas of law as I understand them.

The right of privacy is a broad concept, which encompasses both federal and state law. What was quoted on the constitutional law center website is likely a broad generalization of the status of federal law, not necessarily California law. The issue of posting on message boards is fairly recent and I do not believe the law in this area has been fully developed.

The issue of defamation (libel or slander) is well established in California. Courts have ruled in the past that truth is an absolute defense to a defamation action.

Additionally, the professional rules of conduct for attorneys generally prohibit a lawyer from threatening criminal action in order to gain leverage in a civil matter.

Subpoenas can be issued by an attorney, as they are officers of the court. A trial is not necessary in order to issue a subpoena. Subpoenas can be issued for a number of things, including production of documents. Subpoenas are not limited to compelling courtroom testimony.

The California State Bar performs a background check for each applicant prior to admission to the bar. This includes verifying where an applicant went to school.

I hope this clarifies the issue a little. I am not trying to be cryptic in my response, but, as an attorney, I am bound by certain rules which regulate providing legal advice. Please don't be offended if I cannot offer anything further on these issues. What I have posted here is not offered as specific legal advice, I just want you all to be careful when reading "legal" information provided by websites. The law is often more complex than these websites suggest.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

.....afraid of the big, bad, fat Guamanian wolf.....

I love this descriptive phrase :)

[Halinn]

One of the reasons Tubby bothered me so much was that he that he talked excessively about his life in a way that made it obvious that he had some serious issues. He seemed to be using his children in an inappropriate way, for his own ego. He posted where he lived, what they did for afterschool activities, where they would be every weekend. Moochie was put in he this position by his actions not ours! Everyone on this board has always had the childrens best interest. If Moochie did not want her children to be talked about then she should have taken her SECRET blog off line. And this GEEK (have you seen his yahoo blog....he takes pictures of the pine needles that fell off his tree????) of an attorney is just blowing hot air. I would recommend he remove the pictures of his young daughter off the internet....what an idiot.

But, finally we do have something to post about.....lol

[RowdyOne]

"And true, a lawyer would not send a PM message through a site if he were real. It would come in the mail."

Just wonderin' ... can anyone send a PM through this site, or does one have to be registered? If registered, then, wouldn't GirlFromOr (or whoever received the original PM from the "lawyer") see who sent it? As I recall, when I've received PMs, I get an email saying "You have a new Private Message from ____"

[iamsheens]

I am an attorney. For various reasons I'm not going to provide legal advice or specific analysis on these issues, but would like to clarify some misinformation. Here are some general statements of the relevant areas of law as I understand them.

The right of privacy is a broad concept, which encompasses both federal and state law. What was quoted on the constitutional law center website is likely a broad generalization of the status of federal law, not necessarily California law. The issue of posting on message boards is fairly recent and I do not believe the law in this area has been fully developed.

The issue of defamation (libel or slander) is well established in California. Courts have ruled in the past that truth is an absolute defense to a defamation action.

Additionally, the professional rules of conduct for attorneys generally prohibit a lawyer from threatening criminal action in order to gain leverage in a civil matter.

Subpoenas can be issued by an attorney, as they are officers of the court. A trial is not necessary in order to issue a subpoena. Subpoenas can be issued for a number of things, including production of documents. Subpoenas are not limited to compelling courtroom testimony.

The California State Bar performs a background check for each applicant prior to admission to the bar. This includes verifying where an applicant went to school.

I hope this clarifies the issue a little. I am not trying to be cryptic in my response, but, as an attorney, I am bound by certain rules which regulate providing legal advice. Please don't be offended if I cannot offer anything further on these issues. What I have posted here is not offered as specific legal advice, I just want you all to be careful when reading "legal" information provided by websites. The law is often more complex than these websites suggest.


thanks for clarifying I hardly know anything about the laws I just was required to take a media law class to graduate but im glad I did because I kinda at least understand the laws a little bit better than before...plus I dont know California's specific law...

I dont know if you can answer this or not but as an attorney how professional is it to handle a situation over a pm or email? Wouldnt it be more like a last resort if you can reach someone at home, by mail, phone, fax...then you would go to email or pm's? Or is this a common practice today?

[Truth_Patrol]

The guy's an obvious Jeff n Jer groupie. More importantly, a FH groupie. In his blog he talked about FH's diet and wanting to exercise like him. He also did the verbatim FH song and dance on Becky's house. My opinion ... he wants to be part of FH's inner circle. He is hoping to impress FH by doing this.

[RowdyOne]

^ You speak the truth, Truth Patrol! I agree with you completely.

[shello]

I was on the craiglist Rants and Raves section (somewhat vile, I know) and noticed several people ranting about the walkers on Cowles Mtn. (tho some spell it Cowels). Anyway, wonder if FH and his followers are guilty of some of the bad behavior folks are complaining of.

That has gotten me to thinking...p'haps FH is feeling like some sort of spiritual leader as he has, in the last few months, spoken of god and praying for mean people. Do you think he sees himself in that role seeing as he frequently leads all his walker friends up the hill? Ya know, maybe he wants to be thought of as a Father Joe.

[shello]

The guy's an obvious Jeff n Jer groupie. More importantly, a FH groupie. In his blog he talked about FH's diet and wanting to exercise like him. He also did the verbatim FH song and dance on Becky's house. My opinion ... he wants to be part of FH's inner circle. He is hoping to impress FH by doing this.

Can you fill me in on this blog? Where did ya find it? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Wabbitsd]

The bar may verify where he went to school, but let's say he graduated from Cal Western, but happens to put "USD" on his website. If he "attended classes" at USD, he indeed WENT to USD.

Bankruptcy atty's in my mind are generally half the reason people don't care for lawyers. Them and defense atty's. with no conscience.

[listener13]

But, finally we do have something to post about.....lol

We've been at a loss for some showgram goings on - here's a little trip down memory lane. Don't forget to read the comments - one of our own is on there.

http://www.dontdatehimgirl.com/search/cheater.asp?ddh_id=53535&return_url=index%2Easp%3F

[Carol]

I was bored while waiting to switch laundry over and did a quick google, and found a hilarious article about how insensitive and selfish the showgram really is.

I am amazed at the little bubble they live in.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/indigenous_peoples_literature/message/15

[GirlfromOR]

Its been interesting to hear everyone's opinions about this "lawyer's" PM to Conceptis. I agree with whomever it was that said Conceptis never posted Michelle's address, she posted her own. It's just coincidental that they live on the same street. :)

Question for CattyChathy: is it defamation if a person posts or says true things about another person? What about if what is said is true and not in a negative light? I thought slander and libel had to do with making up false information... is that true?

[GirlfromOR]

That article about the Indian name game is truly disgusting. I can't believe the part about "Little" Tommy's comments. Or maybe I can. Those people only care about ratings, and are always willing to offend entire cultures, in order to get a few laughs. Sad. What is the difference between their "name game" and someone like that Seinfield actor going off on a racist tangent?

[Carol]

haha,well I think "Kramers" racist tangent is a smidge different than the J&J Spewgram being ignorant and insensitive.

[Trixie]

(edit original to shorten)

Of course, the whole thing is a farce so the point is moot.



I found some appropriate definitions, and created a new name!


Moot - Of no legal significance.


Shell - A company or corporation with few or no assets or independent operations that is acquired by another company in order to allow the acquiring company to conduct business under the acquired company's legitimate legal standing.



MootShell should be her name, playing the radio fame name game.

[PRINTER]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Good one, Trixie!
I've been December-crazy but just wanted to catch up...
Here's the deal: Jerry's contract is up September of 2009. The remaining members of this trainwreck are tap dancing to keep people listening and to prove that they're still viable (thus, a bunch of crap on thier website so that they can show management the number of hits). The problem is, they quit entertaining us about the time that Jerry lost interest and Rick Moorton left to go to afternoons and took his ideas with him. Now, everyone knows that Tummy is a lying, cheating, narcissistic a$$. Laura is a whiny, "victim" (why, oh why would davecain leave wonderful me when all I did was do our life savings in drugs, endanger my children, jeopordize my career(?) and never want to grow up??) Jeff is tired...where he used to be quick and witty. Nothing left...
I have a story about Tummy that I can't tell because then he would DEFINITELY know who I am and I don't want his "thought police" threatening me or my family. But, as God is my witness, Tummy is a self-serving, lying jerk. Once the Jeff and Jer spewgram becomes "The Jeff and Jokers Showgram" it will quickly fall off the airwaves...then you can watch "MootShell" (I LOVE THAT!!) find her next high profile meal ticket...she won't stay with a "has-been".

[Wabbitsd]

catty, with all due respect, there's something really wrong with going into a profession that makes you feel like you have to add fifteen sentences of qualification to what you say.

A lot of us can just say "This is my personal opinion, not my professional opinion..." and go on from there. Even a doctor, asked for casual advice at a dinner party doesn't have to add the introductory chapter of qualifiers. As an individual, you also have personal opinions, not based on offering legal advice.

On the other hand, I like a combo name for Michelle..."Moochie MootShell has a nice ring to it."

Printer, dear. if you would like to PM one of us, maybe we can com up with a way to scramble the story enough to make it both entertaining and enlightening in a--oh, shall we say, allegorical manner?

[claystone]

I believe conceptis was truly bullied/scared off this site by FH and his attorney "friend." The attorney's blog address is

360.yahoo.com/profile-5nImV4YydKr0D6PKTyB7JRcgtvKD

He references jingle ball a couple of times in his blogs.

[iamsheens]

I believe conceptis was truly bullied/scared off this site by FH and his attorney "friend." The attorney's blog address is

360.yahoo.com/profile-5nImV4YydKr0D6PKTyB7JRcgtvKD

He references jingle ball a couple of times in his blogs.


Someone who posts as much blogs as Tommy....they must be friends...i even think they kind of look a like...

[Carol]

That guys pictures were really eye opening

They make me want to have more than one child. All the pictures made having one child look so lonely.

[cattychathy]

So hypothtically, would a lawyer, A) Send something like this through a PM and B) would it be something to take seriously if in fact a lawyer had communicated in this matter?

I would not communicate with anyone through a PM for professional matter, nor do I know any attorneys who have done so. Attorneys do communicate by email (just like the rest of the world), but, generally, something as formal as a demand letter is not done through such informal means.

To whoever asked the question about defamation, truth is an absolute defense. For example, if a tabloid published information about a celebrity which was false, the celebrity could bring a defamation suit. However, if the information published was proven to be true, the celebrity would have no remedy.

[RanchoPen]

Just wanted to share my Moochie sighting earlier today (4:15pm). She was in the "15 items or less" checkout at Von's in PQ. I was also leaving and simply watched her for a few minutes. She loaded her car (just one bag from Von's), may have gone to the Hallmark store before Von's (she was parked in front of Hallmark and it looked like she was shuffling a Hallmark bag around in her trunk with the Von's bag). As I went to put my cart back, I could see that she was inside her car, fixing her makeup and then her hair with hairspray flying around the inside of the car. She was wearing a warm-up suit. It was definitely Moochie because the license plate on her Ford (which I wrote down, but am too nervous to divulge here) was personalized with something to do with court reporting.

So, obviously I'm assuming she was on her way to see XXX (no, I didn't follow her...) Whatever is going on with them is anybody's guess! No blaaaagggbbb from FH for so long...

[califbrat]

catty, with all due respect, there's something really wrong with going into a profession that makes you feel like you have to add fifteen sentences of qualification to what you say.

A lot of us can just say "This is my personal opinion, not my professional opinion..." and go on from there. Even a doctor, asked for casual advice at a dinner party doesn't have to add the introductory chapter of qualifiers. As an individual, you also have personal opinions, not based on offering legal advice.

On the other hand, I like a combo name for Michelle..."Moochie MootShell has a nice ring to it."

Printer, dear. if you would like to PM one of us, maybe we can com up with a way to scramble the story enough to make it both entertaining and enlightening in a--oh, shall we say, allegorical manner?

Oh I can't stand it! such drama.. I am so excited!
Printer.. if you feel more comfortable you could PM almost of all us or whoever wants the "goods" on our favorite man of the year and let us in on the "it"

me first.. me first!!

[Wabbitsd]

CArol...hey, I have one kid, and the photos we have of her sure don't look like that. Did you go through them all? This guy sure looks like he is needily needing to convince someone (himself?) that he has the good life going on, there!

By the way, anyone graduate from Madison High School in '86? That's evidently his reunion year...

man, what you can see when folks just can't help putting all their own info out there, eh?

anyone know Brian Rollinson and Kate Dias? The wedding he went to? again, you can find so much out, and I'm certainly not an expert.

Someone who was a little sharper than me could easily figure out where they live, down to the specific house they live in, from his photos...if I were to guess, he lives in some of those mcmansions over near Dictionary Hill (ok, back side of Jamacha Rd.., but wanted to get his goat). His wife looks like she runs in the same packs as Moochie, too.

[SDGirl87]

I'm an 87 grad of Serra, which is probably Madison's closest rival. If he was in the band or choir, I may know him. I'll have to look more closely.

[SDGirl87]

This just further cements my position that this is all a farce. NO attorney is going to send out a "demand" letter with this many and these sorts of errors.


(1) My clients want to know your identity without having to subpoena the information from Gotapex; Tommy already told us that they know who she is, AND Mootshell confirmed that when she visited here. (2) My clients want a public apology posted on this website apology for WHAT exactly? It's never defined. An apology for living on the same street? An apology for liking the color red? An apology for bumping into them accidently at the grocery store? ; (3) My clients want removal of all of your postings with their personal information? hair color? shoe size? Oh, did you mean to say INFORMATION? that I will outline below Comma and removal of Michelle's street name for errrrr...from??? your profile; and (4) My clients want no further postings online by you about Michelle or any of the the? herher? children.Just a thought, but if he represents both Tommy and Mootshell (love it!), why aren't they demanding the same recourse for HIS children? .

[Wabbitsd]

anyone work at Jack in the Box? Lisa works in HR there...sheesh. what people post about themselves in the wide wide internet world. :rolleyes:

He may not have been in choir in school, but he thinks he has a good singing voice.

[Halinn]

I was checking out the attorneys blog and I see he is an ordained minister with the Universal Life Church. It is a website were anyone can be ordained for FREE. They will also forgive your sins over the internet. He should marry Tubby and Mooch......these geeks really amuse me :cheers:

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Did anyone else notice that there is a huge time gap in his Yahoo profile? Graduated from law school in 1993 but lists his first job (his law firm) as starting in 2004.

Must not be too proud of what he did in that 11 year gap....

[RecoveringLstnr]

If I say I THINK that Michelle's children attend The Little School In The Valley I must be endangering them. I'll be waiting patiently for my PM from their Attorney now.

Thank you for all who offered advice about the new pups. They're sleeping at night now, and only waking up 2 times at most to go out!!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

anyone work at Jack in the Box? Lisa works in HR there...sheesh. what people post about themselves in the wide wide internet world. :rolleyes:

He may not have been in choir in school, but he thinks he has a good singing voice.

Looks like she works as his paralegal now - and they seem to want to see their little girl as a singer/model...

I cannot believe the amount of pictures of their family (Moms, Dads, Sister, KIDS!!!) that they have out there on their Flickr account. Doesn't seem to be too smart for someone with an advanced college degree.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Gah - I must be bored....

This attorney shares office space with his Dad's contruction company. He's also listed as their "General Counsel". Oh my.

Keepin' it all in the family :)

[Wabbitsd]

Recovering Listnr...I feel badly. Now that you mention it, I recognize I reported that he ()allegedly) thinks he is a good singer. I may be endangering him. I will just write my own legal letter to myself, and charge myself seventeen billable hours.

[Wabbitsd]

OKOD...isn't Moochie's family ALSO in construction? my gosh. there I go, endangering him again. 14 hours. mea culpa.

[LisaP]

This attorney shares office space with his Dad's contruction company.

CRAP! I knew his office location was "odd" for an attorney. I am pretty sure I know the construction company. Now I know why the name sounded so familiar.

[LisaP]

BINGO! Doggone my friend for being out of town skiing right now. I knew I knew the name from way back when. The CSLB shows one of the old connections being with Centex-Golden. I am sure we have crossed paths. And again, the location of the office is NOT the place you would find an attys office.

http://www2.cslb.ca.gov/General-Information/interactive-tools/check-a-license/Personnel+License+List.asp?SeqNumber=0019670&PersName=STARRETT%2C+CARL+HORACE

http://www2.cslb.ca.gov/General-Information/interactive-tools/check-a-license/License+Detail.asp?LicNum=00734671

[Trixie]

I just reviewed my copy of Madison High School 1984 yearbook. I looked at the sophmores (class of '86) and didn't see any Starett listings. I also checked Jr and Sr names. Came up blank. Maybe Carl didn't attend Madison all three years?

[GirlfromOR]

I believe conceptis was truly bullied/scared off this site by FH and his attorney "friend." The attorney's blog address is

360.yahoo.com/profile-5nImV4YydKr0D6PKTyB7JRcgtvKD

He references jingle ball a couple of times in his blogs.


Conceptis is still here. I don't think that there have been any posts under the new screen name, but here's a hint as to what it is: You'll know her PEN when you see it.

[califbrat]

You are so cagey Girly! You get double points for that one..

[Wabbitsd]

I'd say, let the reincarnated poster(s) be. the others will show their hands soon enough.

did this "Centex group" used to have offices on University Ave, near Spring Street?

Trixie...Starret is quite an active little blogger on his (Madison) Classmates site...he goes into great detail about himself and his wife there.

[califbrat]

Wabbitsd.. I am hooked up on classmates too! will doing some browsing right now!..see what goodies I can find

[ElizabethAZ]

OKOD...isn't Moochie's family ALSO in construction?

I believe we have a DCer whose family (well, in-laws) are in construction too....hmmmm.....

[SDReadhead]

Thanks for all the laughs today my DC pals. Here's my 2 cents worth -- I think Conceptis is really a neighbor of MootShell (love that name) and that she felt nervous and intimidated by that post by the unprofessional, unethical lawyer pal of M/FH. In hindsight it's probably easy for Conceptis to see what a farce that stupid letter was, but it probably would be a bit unnerving to feel "stalked" by spewgram henchmen and bullies.

Hi Mooch and Fat Arse, listen up -- we are not afraid of you. We number more than you. My sister and brother-in-law are lawyers, and if you don't stop bugging us on this board, I'm going to get them BOTH to send you empty threats via instant message. They don't practice law in this country, but they have the same legal clout as your goofy blog-a-holic idiot lawyer pal.

[GirlfromOR]

You may be right SDReadHead... but why would she put her address in a (public) profile on a message board? It doesn't make sense. If I'm actively posting on a message board dedicated to hating my neighbor's boyfriend, I definitely won't make myself known! I might say that I live in the same neighborhood but I wouldn't put my address down. Of course, I wouldn't do that anyways because who knows what kind of creepy people are out there.

[GirlfromOR]

Conceptis is still here. I don't think that there have been any posts under the new screen name, but here's a hint as to what it is: You'll know her PEN when you see it.

I should specify that it is not RanchoPen. Some have asked via pm if that is the new screen name. I should have said "type of Pen."

[Newer Reader]

I should specify that it is not RanchoPen. Some have asked via pm if that is the new screen name. I should have said "type of Pen."

Ah, thanks for clarifying. We've been gone for a couple of days and I'm enjoying getting caught up...awhile back, Carol asked for a show of hands of who thought Conceptis = Moochelle. Sorry I'm late, but here's mine:

:wavey2:

Thanks to GirlfromOR, my guess is now expanded to: Conceptis = Moochelle = [some kind of pen, but not RanchoPen].

NR #26 Happy New Year and Happy Birthday to me! :cheers:

[DeltaPop]

Just checking in (as RowdyOne suggested a few pages back that all us lurkers do). It's after midnight 12/31/07. Time to say " We'll tak' a cup o' kindness yet, For auld lang syne", and wish each other a Happy New Year. All lurkers come out today for one final 2007 post!

[shello]

Conceptis is still here. I don't think that there have been any posts under the new screen name, but here's a hint as to what it is: You'll know her PEN when you see it.

Call me stupid, seriously, but how do you know the new screen name if it has not been used yet? Am I missing something? I used to think I was pretty sharp but you guys are quite the sleuths.

[mamasterls]

Here I am! Still enjoying the drama and entertainment from the masters that you are!

Happy New Year! :cheers:

[GirlfromOR]

Shello, you are far from stupid. That would be me :) Well, I'm not stupid either, just tired. Before she PM'ed me the lawyer letter, she PMed me from the new account saying who she was and that her Conceptis account needed to be fixed. A little bit later the lawyer letter came popping through from her original account. I'll forward her "it's me conceptis PM to you."

[Gidget12345]

Hi...i've only posted a few times but can I have a number too?

my 2 cents...
seems quite strange that a genuine lawyer would conduct any business through a private message, at least an email would be more believable. Also as someone mentioned earlier, the amount of typos is ridiculous for a lawyer, which leads me to believe it wasn't written by the actual lawyer himself and instead someone else who was just using (with permission) this lawyer's name so as to appear official. Either way, there is an actual lawyer involved and it is regarding Mootshell and her offspring and things that were said about them.

[BigAl]

Awesome. Ringing in 2008 with the Drama that this board offers.
Cagey fun and seething recourse. Keep it rolling.
As I return to Coto from a trip in the lovely bay area. Saw Chargers win in raiderette nation too.
See y'all in 2008. :)

[SDGirl87]

Hello my beautiful DC IF's!!

Our last word for the day for 2007 will be.....

DRAMA

[pax]

I love the DRAMA here!

[GGmami]

Happy New Year DC. I just returned from a drama-free family vacation and was happy to see some drama on the board. I hope you all stay safe tonight and have a wonderful start to the new year. I'm sure the spewgram will give us lots to discuss in 2008.

[zodiac]

DRAMA DRAMA, I LOVE DRAMA!
I sure love hanging out with all my DRAMA buddies, you entertain me so much!
Anyone know if the DRAMAtic J&J are returning next Monday? I'll be out of town so I'll have to come here to find out the DRAMA that I'm missing.
I emailed FH several days ago to ask why he hasn't graced us with a blob lately, he didn't respond. :bawl:

Happy New Year to all you DRAMA lovin' peeps!
Don't drink and drive. :)

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I emailed FH several days ago to ask why he hasn't graced us with a blob lately, he didn't respond. :bawl:

There has to be some DRAMA there because XXXL *loves* to blahg about every single, little, redundant thing that goes on in his life.....

Also, to copy a thought from a G|A friend (Chrissy) ~ if you're looking for a last minute tax deduction, please check out the link in my signature :wavey2:

Thanks for making my 2007 so wonderful ~ and I'm wishing you all a great 2008!

[Carol]

Not to stir up any DRAMA but I think I know why the blob has not left any blogs as of late. There is only one explination, and it is a familiar situation...

HE IS IN REHAB!!! :hehehmm:

Just kidding. He doesn't have a problem:mad: he can stop whenever he wants!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Gah - I'm listening to the "best of" this morning and they just ran the same clip TWICE....brilliant (not).

Why do I subject myself to this crap?

[listener13]

Maybe FH went to a fat farm "rehab" or joined "The Biggest Loser" - either way, it would be good for his waistline. Or, he's camped out at Souplantation. I'm sure he'll have quite a tale to tell when he returns from his foodapalooza holiday. Remember, he starts his diet Jan 2 (and Jan 3, Jan 4, Jan 5......) DRAMA!

Looks like our buddy the big-time PMing attorney checked in on us yesterday - I'm sure he's scrubbing his Flickr account right now - probably a good idea for the safety of his daughter - there are so many pedophiles out there just waiting to prey on kids. Honestly, I don't know what people are thinking when they make all of their private information (and boring information, FH) available to people they don't know. I don't have children, but if I did, only my friends and family would see my pictures.

[Layla]

I would just like to report that Googling Michelle's full name now brings up THIS THREAD as the NUMBER TWO link! WooHoo! If any of her old hoodrat friends or ex-bigdeal-boyfriends happen to try to look her up, they'll find her here :D

[Mom2ThreeBoys]

which leads me to believe it wasn't written by the actual lawyer himself and instead someone else who was just using (with permission) this lawyer's name so as to appear official. Either way, there is an actual lawyer involved and it is regarding Mootshell and her offspring and things that were said about them.
Emphasis is mine. Do you know this for certain or is this just your theory?

[SDchick]

Hi Everybody!!! I'm happy to say that I've been DRAMA free for almost two weeks now! I KNOW I'd be listening on my way to work if I wasn't on leave (all's well in babyland, by the way - they're still baking inside of me!)

But for some reason, our house get NO radio reception, which used to bug me, but now I just count it as a blessing. :) I'll be reading back what I've missed, but I just wanted to say Happy New Year to you all, and to check in with everyone.

Love you guys!!!!

[Layla]

Now, this is just MY theory, but I think was Gidge is saying is that, the lawyer at least KNOWS what is going on and allowed whoever wrote that pm up, to use his info, perhaps to make it seems a little "scarier".
Emphasis is mine. Do you know this for certain or is this just your theory?

[LUV2BE]

Hi DC family
long time lurker, I don't post much, but wanted to thank you all for my Drama fix this year. I appreciate each and every one of you. I just want to know where I can go on line and buy a lawyer diploma....then I can pm people as well, isn't that how it works?

On a more real drama note, please say a small prayer for my family, my beloved niece passed last night, on her 22nd birthday, of liver disease. She had been waiting for a dual liver(her 3rd)-intestine transplant at UCLA Med center... we are hurting at our loss this morning.
God Bless you all
Keep up the good work!
DC member #150:cheers:

[listener13]

LUV2BE: My heart goes out to you and your family. My Mom passed on New Years Day, and it's always a bittersweet holiday for me. My brother died at age 21 of leukemia, and it's always especially heartwrenching when we lose someone at such a young age. I was 7 when he died, and I still miss him every day (my Mom too). But, they're always with you, in your heart.

Apparently, you don't need to have your own law degree, you can borrow one from a friend or a church-member. I'd like to be the chief of thoracic medicine at UCSD - guess I need to go to some more cocktail parties.

Hey, on our little DRAMA club here - we're almost at 1.3M visits - do we think FH's blog has that many visits - I think NOT - try that on for size, Clear Channel. If LBM and FH weren't off eating and drinking and would have been blobbing, we'd have surpassed the 1.3M by now. They gave our fingers a much-needed holiday, I guess.

[listener13]

Gah - I'm listening to the "best of" this morning and they just ran the same clip TWICE....brilliant (not).

Why do I subject myself to this crap?

Don't know how they can call that crap the "best of". Guess it's best of the worst.:rolleyes:

I'm sure the morning "crew" is working on some great new bits for the New Year on their time off.....they're probably on the phone with their DJ friends around the country trying to steal some of their bits.

Crank-pot will tell us all about his travels in Europe - like the Europeans need any more arrogance on their continent. Jeff will try to convert us with some new bible-crap he's read about. FH and LBM - they'll have their usual train-wreck crap to tell us about. Randy: Well, he'll just giggle endlessly in the background - that's his contribution to the showgram. Our only hope is on Delana.

[Truth_Patrol]

Hi...i've only posted a few times but can I have a number too?

my 2 cents...
seems quite strange that a genuine lawyer would conduct any business through a private message, at least an email would be more believable. Also as someone mentioned earlier, the amount of typos is ridiculous for a lawyer, which leads me to believe it wasn't written by the actual lawyer himself and instead someone else who was just using (with permission) this lawyer's name so as to appear official. Either way, there is an actual lawyer involved and it is regarding Mootshell and her offspring and things that were said about them.


If you look at his blog, he is the king of typos.

[SDchick]

And I feel so evil, but I've been wondering what sad story Laura will have for us with her Christmas loneliness this year. I've already been speculating... no booze, no Chars and Chips and Little Lady,did she seek solace with her boozing mom at Christmas? And what at New year's??? You KNOW she's never spent a sober new year just hanging out with her family, right?

Hey Laura! If you want some good old fashioned family fun, swing by Santee to my house! It'll be my husband, daughter, and myself, having a fire ring in the driveway and perhaps hubby will light a few sparklers for us!

But don't tell that lawyer, he might sue us for using sparklers!!!

[OhPulleez!]

I haven't posted in quite some time, but I'm always here, joining in the party! Most of the time someone else has already posted something that reflects my outrage, my sympathies, or my belly laughs so I haven't wanted to just post repeats. So as requested, I'm checking in. Please don't even think of purging me from the list or there will be all new kinds of DRAMA! *tee hee*
SDGirl, thanks for posting the lawyer blob with the remarks about the truly professional level of writing. My thoughts exactly!
Happy New Year to everyone here! You all certainly helped to make my 2007 much more interesting!

[oops]

Maybe LBM is spending her alone time taking DRAMA classes to further her BIG DEAL acting career.

We can only dream that FH and Moochie have sailed off for a DRAMATIC wedding. Then the real DRAMA will start in 2008.

Happy New Year all. May it be filled with love, health, happiness and prosperity for you all. (with just a bit of DC DRAMA for giggles along the way).

[SDGirl87]

Hey Laura! If you want some good old fashioned family fun, swing by Santee to my house! It'll be my husband, daughter, and myself, having a fire ring in the driveway and perhaps hubby will light a few sparklers for us!

But don't tell that lawyer, he might sue us for using sparklers!!!

Hey! Where's MY invite after all the invites to you to my house?? Remember me? Ms. Single, available and lonely???? *sniff* ;-)

Geeze I sound desperate...lol.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Hey Laura! If you want some good old fashioned family fun, swing by Santee to my house! It'll be my husband, daughter, and myself, having a fire ring in the driveway and perhaps hubby will light a few sparklers for us!

Wait a minute! I want some sparklers, too...PM me and let me know where you picked them up :)

I love me some sparklers!!!

[SDReadhead]

Hey! Where's MY invite after all the invites to you to my house?? Remember me? Ms. Single, available and lonely???? *sniff* ;-)

Geeze I sound desperate...lol.
You don't need an invite, SDGirl! Just hire MootShell's lawyer to track down SDChick's house. Remember, FH can find anyone on this board anytime he wants to!

On the note of *sniff* -- this is the first year since we've had kids that both of our kiddos have other plans for NYEve. Our son is with cousins and our daughter has a sleepover invite. Oh for the good old days when we'd set the clocks 3 hours ahead and put Times Square on the telly and pretend it was midnight. The past few years they've had parties at our house. At least they aren't at the scary driving age where I have to worry about them getting hit by some drunk driver as they come home from a party. Geez, could I get more maudlin on New Year's Eve? I'm turning into a DRAMA queen.

[SDGirl87]

You don't need an invite, SDGirl! Just hire MootShell's lawyer to track down SDChick's house. Remember, FH can find anyone on this board anytime he wants to!

DUH! Silly me. With all of this DRAMA, I totally forgot.

(putting on best blond bombshell voice-tough for a brunette average Jill!) Excuse me, Mr. Attorney? Will you use your big, strong, super smart brain to help me find SDChick's address so I can attend the NYE party she so graciously invited Ms. Cain to? I KNOW you can do it...and I would be oh so appreciative. I'm sorry you are so misunderstood. Thank you (exhale)

[Gidget12345]

Now, this is just MY theory, but I think was Gidge is saying is that, the lawyer at least KNOWS what is going on and allowed whoever wrote that pm up, to use his info, perhaps to make it seems a little "scarier".


yes and it was just a thought...

[11ListenerNot]

Well, it's been an interesting year, and I have only been in the club for a few months! I have enjoyed each and every one of you, well almost. We did have a few rats on this board, no names mentioned of course hee! After the joy of the holidays we have to start a new year with a new showgram (what am I thinking!) It will be interesting to see how those morons spent the holidays. We do have some witty, great posters and really good detectives here on this site! I wish all of you the best of the new year. And finally, let's speed up the DRAMA!!

As long as this site continues, I am and always will be proud to be DC Club #104 :cheers:

[Newer Reader]

Maybe LBM is spending her alone time taking DRAMA classes to further her BIG DEAL acting career.

We can only dream that FH and Moochie have sailed off for a DRAMATIC wedding. Then the real DRAMA will start in 2008.]

Oh, Oops, now, wouldn't that be fun? I'll bet you're right...a New Year's Eve wedding would be just the ticket.

On a serious note, for those of you have lost loved ones this year, I'll say a prayer and will be thinking of you tonight.

May our 2008 be otherwise DRAMA-free; save, of course, for our DRAMA club and our J&J cast of characters, whose antics often cause me to do this (compliments of Red Willow):

http://members.cox.net/willowdared/gladysreaction.gif

Best,

NR #26 :cheers:

[Transplant]

We can only dream that FH and Moochie have sailed off for a DRAMATIC wedding. Then the real DRAMA will start in 2008.

Now wouldn't that be a slam to Amused if they ran off to Vegas and got married!!!! He's done so much stuff that ties into Amused's b-day, their old anniversary date, what her drink preference is, etc....(Not like Amused would loose any sleep over it except for worrying about her children!)

[GirlfromOR]

Luv2be, I'm so so sorry for the loss of your neice. I cannot imagine what you are dealing with. I hope that you and your family are able to find peace and comfort during this difficult time.

[SDchick]

Hey! Where's MY invite after all the invites to you to my house?? Remember me? Ms. Single, available and lonely???? *sniff* ;-)

Geeze I sound desperate...lol.
Back from my 2 hour nap and picking up the living room... sorry SDGirl! And how bad do I feel now??? Of COURSE you can come on over! You don't mind if I kick everyone out at around 9ish, do you? That's when I turn my fat belly back into a pumpkin! :cheers:

[iamsheens]

I love J & J Drama but do not repeat DO NOT like Work DRAMA...haha it just wont go away...Im going to loose my mind....

[Wabbitsd]

Luv2Be, nice to have you back, so sorry for the loss of your niece.


as far as lawyering, I got a brilliant idea on the way home from work this afternoon....why, I saw a beat up old toyota corolla driving next to me...with a couple of those magnetic signs --PREPAID LEGAL SERVICES!

That answered the whole question. Moochie and/or FH had gone ahead and subscribed to those prepaid legal services, and had to use the services or lose them for the year. They pooled their respective credits and got our good friend SoCalAtty. And the rest, they say, is herstory.

(sorry to degrade any REAL, ethical attorneys with reference to our new buddy, CARL who has been checking in, and is too shy to really join in.)

COME ON IN, CARL! we feel like we know so much about you already! How's the diet going? Getting in a few walks with FH? Getting to know his "Boy, I'm a great guy, just ask me if you need more info" pay no attention to the people I have run over and left by the wayside!!!! line of chatter?

[YoungAmerican]

I have been away from all the DRAMA lately, been so very busy with work and life etc... Has there been anything BIG that I should know about going on here? I haven't had the time or desire to think about much else after work but family and am extremely happy to be able to be spending the night at home, safe with my DH and 2 teenaged kids (19 & 16). They actually want to stay home with dear old mom and dad and play board games, listen to our funky 70's & 80's music and drink Shirley Temples. Enjoy everyone and be safe where ever you are tonight!!!

[iamsheens]

Luv2Be, nice to have you back, so sorry for the loss of your niece.


as far as lawyering, I got a brilliant idea on the way home from work this afternoon....why, I saw a beat up old toyota corolla driving next to me...with a couple of those magnetic signs --PREPAID LEGAL SERVICES!

That answered the whole question. Moochie and/or FH had gone ahead and subscribed to those prepaid legal services, and had to use the services or lose them for the year. They pooled their respective credits and got our good friend SoCalAtty. And the rest, they say, is herstory.

(sorry to degrade any REAL, ethical attorneys with reference to our new buddy, CARL who has been checking in, and is too shy to really join in.)

COME ON IN, CARL! we feel like we know so much about you already! How's the diet going? Getting in a few walks with FH? Getting to know his "Boy, I'm a great guy, just ask me if you need more info" pay no attention to the people I have run over and left by the wayside!!!! line of chatter?

LOL the last paragraph is my favorite. its creepy that we know so much about these people who we dont even know...maybe Carl is really tommy...I think since he hasnt been blogging all this time he created an alter ego who is lawyer carl...ok maybe thats a little far fetched but oh well....

i wish it were time to leave work...

[LisaP]

I had to work today, but thankfully I was in out of the office and didn't have to put up with the DRAMA queen [can you say nepotism].

Happy New Year's to all. My husband says we will be up at midnite [new puppy and all, it will give us something to do] :rolleyes: right, I am sure I will wake up at 11:57PM like every other year, kiss him and wish him a Happy New Years and roll back over.

Oh and BTW, I am late on this, but to answer the question "What kind of laywer accepts PayPal for payments?", Answer - One that sends demand letters via PM on internet boards!

And in the longshot that JNJ end next year, I am completely confident that this thread and this wonderful DC group will continue for many years.

[listener13]

COME ON IN, CARL! we feel like we know so much about you already! How's the diet going? Getting in a few walks with FH? Getting to know his "Boy, I'm a great guy, just ask me if you need more info" pay no attention to the people I have run over and left by the wayside!!!! line of chatter?

I don't think we'll hear from Carl until Wednesday - his website said that he'll be at Disneyland.

The only thing his blog doesn't tell us is how regular he is and how much fiber it takes to keep him that way. Otherwise, I feel like I know him better than some family members.

[iamsheens]

I don't think we'll hear from Carl until Wednesday - his website said that he'll be at Disneyland.

The only thing his blog doesn't tell us is how regular he is and how much fiber it takes to keep him that way. Otherwise, I feel like I know him better than some family members.


yeah thats just wayyyy to much info....we should not know that Carl is going to be at disneyland until Wednesday or whatever day...thats just odd...Im convinced if these Tommy's and Carls of the world continue exposing so much information something is going to happen to a family member....you dont do that, not on the internet, especially if your a Lawyer...obviously Law School does not teach you common sense...then again neither does Media School...

[11th Reader]

Goodness! I finally made my way back home and I come back to this crazy DRAMA!

As the "other" legal person around here, I hearby second all that CattyChatty says about defamation and all that. I do find it very unprofessional that he PMed Conceptis...but from looking at the website, I'm not surprised either. If everything Conceptis said was true, Conceptis has nothing to worry about in terms of legal action....

My 2 cents on it though...while it's easy for US to say that we're not scared of FH and Moochie, if FH truly knows who Conceptis is...that is scary. We know what he's done to Amused...Conceptis is probably freaked out now, and probably rightly so, because of FH's past. I wouldn't be surprised if he went knocking at the house repeatedly and threatened Conceptis and called and all that aggressively abusive stuff he's already pulled in the past. So while legally Conceptis will be fine, FH may try to find other recourses to "get even."

P.S. I'm sad I didn't get to see my invisible friends when I was in SD! :(

[OneKidOneDogMom]

P.S. I'm sad I didn't get to see my invisible friends when I was in SD! :(

Thanks for chiming in on the legal stuff - yeah, if I was Conceptis I would be more worried about the stalker side of XXXL than any lawyer/paralegal "Super Duo" he could sic on him/her.

And as one of the Invisible Crew, I am sad that we didn't get to meet up, too! The holidays are so full of activities and STUFF that time just slipped away. I sure hope you enjoyed your time here in San Diego and loved being with your "real" friends and family.

:drums: My son sends you the drummer boy!

[SDReadhead]

Twilight Zone Marathon on SciFi!!!!

On another note, I can't think of what to make for dinner tomorrow night. Anyone know what Carl is having?

[insightbyjake]

My 2 cents on it though...while it's easy for US to say that we're not scared of FH and Moochie, if FH truly knows who Conceptis is...that is scary. We know what he's done to Amused...Conceptis is probably freaked out now, and probably rightly so, because of FH's past. I wouldn't be surprised if he went knocking at the house repeatedly and threatened Conceptis and called and all that aggressively abusive stuff he's already pulled in the past. So while legally Conceptis will be fine, FH may try to find other recourses to "get even."


I’ve enjoyed the last few pages. I find it unbelievable that anyone would be frightened by a letter from a “lawyer” about the thread. (That said, I find it unbelievable anyone would be frightened by a real lawyer)

Just months ago, some piece of crap mom and her smaller piece of crap daughter, pretend to be an 18-year-old boy named “Josh” who strikes up a friendship with a 13-year-old girl named Megan.

They eventually turn on her with cruel ridicule, tell her the world would be better off with out her – and she, having already been treated for depression, proceeds to kill herself.

This occurred in St. Charles County Missouri, and prosecutor Jack Banas said that while he understands the public outrage over Megan Meier's death, he could not find statutes allowing him to charge anyone in the case. No one can be charged?!?!?

And we’re supposed to believe some toad and his money-chasing, bleached-blonde, self-absorbed toadette have a case against a poster on a Drama thread? And they put forth this case though a PM on the thread?

I’d fear FH as far as I could throw him.

The charater "Conceptis" is a fraud or a fool -- or both.

[GirlfromOR]

[QUOTE=OneKidOneDogMom]Thanks for chiming in on the legal stuff - yeah, if I was Conceptis I would be more worried about the stalker side of XXXL than any lawyer/paralegal "Super Duo" he could sic on him/her. QUOTE]

Again... Conceptis knows about FH's history just like the rest of us but willingly put her ADDRESS in her blog on purpose to start some kind of game w/ FH&M. I don't understand why a person would willingly lure a bear into their camp. I'm not saying she deserves to be stalked or whatever, but she sort of invited him into her life.

[SDReadhead]

I’d fear FH as far as I could throw him.

Yikes, I could only manage to lift and throw that fat arse about 2 feet. I'm taller than he (who isn't???), but he outweighs me by probably 100 lbs. (That's if you subtract his magic math from the equation and base your numbers on his fat frame and pudge-filled face).

[Layla]

Conceptis is not afraid of any of these people because she IS one of these people. Go back to her first posts here. She was immediately tagged as one of them. She then tried hard to convince us she wasn't. She got some attention for a while with people calling her out, and I believe she bickered with Jake a little, and lost. Her next ploy for attention was being mentioned in Tommy's blog. That died down and then Michelle shows up and calls her out again. I don't buy for one second that she's not a part of that group if not ACTUALLY Tommy or Michelle. They are trying to create drama where there is none. All in all, she's just looking for attention because she stopped getting it from us for a while.
[QUOTE=OneKidOneDogMom]Thanks for chiming in on the legal stuff - yeah, if I was Conceptis I would be more worried about the stalker side of XXXL than any lawyer/paralegal "Super Duo" he could sic on him/her. QUOTE]

Again... Conceptis knows about FH's history just like the rest of us but willingly put her ADDRESS in her blog on purpose to start some kind of game w/ FH&M. I don't understand why a person would willingly lure a bear into their camp. I'm not saying she deserves to be stalked or whatever, but she sort of invited him into her life.

[GirlfromOR]

Good point Layla.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Okay, I'll take 20 lashes with a wet noodle for buying into the "Conceptis is a real person" scheme. You make a good argument, Layla :)

[Layla]

And on another note, I think she uses this "I'm scared, poor me" tactic because she knows how compassionate this group can be. Only this time, I'm not biting!
Okay, I'll take 20 lashes with a wet noodle for buying into the "Conceptis is a real person" scheme. You make a good argument, Layla :)

[insightbyjake]

2008 Predictions for J & J:

1. Jeff and his wife donate their foster baby to a needy couple and then proceed to adopt all the children of Darfur. In a deeply repetitive explanation, that takes almost 6 minutes more than necessary, Jeff explains to the listeners, that he is moved to doing this because the words of the woman from “Save-All-The-Children-From-Darfur” echoed in his head. Plus, God told him this would serve mankind. (And Bob Bolinger told him the 35+ white, female demographic that makes up 90% of their listening audience, loves men who help kids.)

2. Jerry donates $10 million dollars to the “Create-a-Humane-Habitat-for-Chickens-Who-Will-Be-Barbequed-by-the-Fourth-of-July” Foundation. (He also donates money to the “Treating-Animals-As-Voyeuristic-Objects-Rather-Than-Living-Creatures” Foundation, also known as, the San Francisco Zoo.)

3. Laura decides her life is all about her “babies.” She also decides to change her attitude toward her unforgiving-“you-said-for-better-or-worse”-I-hate-you-but-I-am-in-a-better-place-if-I-don’t-write-the-truth-in-my-diaries-so-people-will-think-I-am-growing-in-my-recovery, soon to be ex-husband.

4. Randy will eat at Jimmy’s and go to Disneyland. [Jake, if living Randy’s life, would prefer to shove a six-inch replica of the Empire State building into his own eye socket.]

5. Delana will cash her paychecks, shake her head, make polite comments about the freaks she works with, and hurry off to 95.7 each day.

6. Finally, Tommy will remind us Jeff and Jer have been on the air in San Diego for 20 years, 12,346 times. He will wax nostalgic until we puke. He will continue to be disingenuous about every aspect of life. And, best of all he will alternate blogs every other month and flip-flop between:


A. It is good to exercise and eat fresh fruits and vegetables because it makes him proud and feel in control. And,


B. Who cares about weight when family and friends are what really counts. So, he’s gained a few pounds (okay, 62) ….what matters is the happy feeling he gets when he consumes “Outback Steakhouse Aussie Cheese Fries with Ranch Dressing” ( with only 2,900 calories and 182 g fat)


Finally, drama thread pals will continue to enjoy sharing laughs and moving in and out of both serious, and humorous conversations.

Oh, at a level of wit quite above the aforementioned, "we-should-have-moved-on-a-decade-ago-but-we're-so-blatantly-over-paid-how-can-we-give-up-all-this-jack-simply-because-our-original-ideas-ended-in-1998?" duo.

Happy New Year my friends and allow me to leave you with this New Year's quote from Lord Tennyson:

Ring out the old, ring in the new,
Ring, happy bells, across the snow:
The year is going, let him go;
Ring out the false, ring in the true.

[Layla]

Jake...for a bit I was looking forward to 2008...now, I just don't know.

On another note...anyone wanna play scrabulous? :)

[garybear]

2008 Predictions for J & J:

Happy New Year my friends and allow me to leave you with this New Year's quote from Lord Tennyson:

Ring out the old, ring in the new,
Ring, happy bells, across the snow:
The year is going, let him go;
Ring out the false, ring in the true.

I am willing to ring in the new. I wrote last Sat. night about a dog that my husband and I returned to his home late at night after we found him in our front yard.

Little did I know then that in 2 short days our own dog would be in the doggie ICU with life threatening anemia. Her diagnosis, after ultrasounds, xrays, bone marrow biopsy, a blood transfusion and lots of drugs is either auto-immune disorder or bone marrow cancer. We will find out on Wed. We have our girl home with us tonight and she is being treated like a princess.

So with all of the DC's that received puppies for Christmas, continue to do "good deeds" and hug your pups tight. You never know when they may need it more than ever.

Thanks for the post Jake- we are ready to ring in the new...hopefully new health!!

[LisaP]

garybear ~ My thoughts are with you and your girl. We have been there/done that more than one should be, and know how you feel. Sending happy, healthy vibes your way.

[listener13]

Jake - once again, you nailed it.:bow:

[MomCat]

Garybear, I'm so sorry to hear about your pup...they do become members of our families. When we had to take our kitties in to get "fixed", I was a wreck. I missed them just the one night they were gone.

Jake, as usual, you'e right on...

And to the rest of you, be safe tonight, we want to continue on with the DRAMA in 2008 with every single one of us! :cheers: xo MC

[GirlfromOR]

Garybear, I'm sorry that your dog is sick. I have been there and it's not easy. <HUGS>

I wonder if FH is getting gastric bypass surgery or something. Him not blogging is so suspicious. I guess we'll see when he "starts his diet" and rapidly starts losing weight.

[PRINTER]

So, we end 2007...This group had been fun, informative and verrrry interesting...
Can't wait to see what unfolds with the "Witless Wonders" of the morning airwaves...I bought a new supply of DRAMAmine in case I listen by accident and become nauseous!:sick:
Don't know why I care but I am curious to know what Laura is doing tonight. I remember my first sober New Years (19 1/2 years ago!). I paced the floors, bored and anxious, and finally went to bed a bit depressed and grumpy because I felt like I was "missing all the fun". That first one is the most difficult... I hope for her sake that she planned ahead.
BTW...the next morning after that first sober New Year's Eve I got up at 6:00 a.m. feeling GREAT and walked 5 miles at the bay. It was the ultimate high!
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!
(Special hugs to Garybear!)

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Garybear, my thoughts and prayers go out to you and your little one...like others here, I've "been there, done that" too many times to count. Give your girl lots of hugs and kisses tonight and hold out hope that 2008 will bring her good health. {{{hugs}}}

GirlfromOR, gastric bypass is definitely something I could see XXXL doing....I would rather that be the reason he hasn't blagh-ed in two weeks than other possibilities (troubles with Rosa, etc.)

Transplant, do you have any "insider" info that might shed some light on what is up with the Sablan brood?

Three more hours - my 9 year old is determined to stay up until midnight and is driving me crazy in the process.....

Happy New Year!

[insightbyjake]

I like you people...you "get it"....you know how to have fun....

You each remind me of the end of a movie..when it all makes "sense"....and one feels comfortable with having spent time watching the show.

P.S. Printer....who quits drinking in July of 1997? Or, was it 1998??? I'm not sure....I HATE dating our flaws!!!

(God Bless you...and all the others.....I Kid...)

[GirlfromOR]

I think if it was Rosa he'd be searching for sympathy from the masses. He'd definitely be blogging endlessly about that. I bet that FH went to one of those "spas" that does surgery at the same time. Gastric or lipo is what he'd do :)

[listener13]

He's too much of a wimp to get bypass surgery. Besides, he wouldn't be able to eat his beloved crap food after GBS. He's such a big deal, I'm sure he paid someone to have it for him.

It's probably a good thing Laura moved out if he did get it - she'd be ALL OVER his liquid vicodin.....goes down smooth - great with a vodka chaser.

Happy New Years, DC members! We're gonna rock in 2008!

[PRINTER]

uh....talk about "dating our flaws"...it was 1988!!!!
Partied down with Doobie Bros., Marshall Tucker, Allman Bros., Jimmy Buffet... woke up one evening with my young child staring at me wondering why I asleep on the couch (can you say PASSED OUT!!???!!) and realized I had to freaking grow up! Didn't want to...wasn't easy. But I did. I guess that's why LBM REALLY bugs me...I learned very early in my sobriety that blaming anyone else was not going to solve MY problem...and that, sad as it made me, I had to change my life. No more tailgate parties, no more beer barbecues, no more tequila shooters at Foggy's Notion (Yep, I'm THAT old!...but ever so cute!)
But, on the happy side, I own my own business, I exercise like crazy and my 26+ year marriage is AWESOME!
It doesn't appear that LBM has changed much. Yes, she goes to meetings and repeats what she's "supposed" to say...but she still craves attention and still wants to be young forever and wants to be her kids' friend. I hate hearing stories about how Charlie acts like the grown up...a very typical by-product of having an alcoholic parent. Causes lots of problems when that parent NEVER grows up.
Anyway, to those of you who CAN party...I raise my glass of diet coke and toast to all of us! Don't drink and drive. Be safe.

[PQ Gal]

Garybear so sorry to hear about your precious dog, our thoughts are with you during this hard time for you and your family.

Happy New Year to all of the DC members, as Jake said "you get it...you know how to have fun". Thanks for all the great times on this site in 2007, a great group of people!:woohoo:

Thanks Amused for all your insight this year and we all hope for a better year in 08 for you and your kids, goodness know you deserve it.:wavey2:

Moochelle and Tummy and JJ showgram...lighten up in '08 and bring back the show it used to be...remember you all choose to be in the limelight and are rewarded handsomely for your 4 hours on the air each day (well maybe not 4 hours since a lot of it is repeated so maybe 3 hours..).:bash:

God Bless us everyone.

[RedWillow]

Well, this is off topic....but today was a very sad day.

Today, a bad guy grabbed a police K9 and jumped off the Coronado Bridge. Bad guy's in the hospital, the K9 did not survive.

Kinda puts things in perspective.

Best wishes to you all in 2008....hold your loved ones close.
:cheers:

[califbrat]

Twilight Zone Marathon on SciFi!!!!

On another note, I can't think of what to make for dinner tomorrow night. Anyone know what Carl is having?

Mickey Mouse Pancakes!!

[Sapphie]

HAPPY NEW YEAR DRAMA CLUB PEEPS!!!! May you all live as long as you want to and want to as long as you live. I hope everyone had something to feel blessed about...even those of us who are feeling the loss of loved ones, and worried about the health of those close to us...there is always a silver lining and a rainbow to be found....thanks for the laughs, the tears, the wit and the humanity of everyone who posts here.....LUV ya!!!!! ...Sapphie xxxxxxx

[iamsheens]

happy new year everyone...i am up way too early...

[Trixie]

Hi...i've only posted a few times but can I have a number too?

my 2 cents...
seems quite strange that a genuine lawyer would conduct any business through a private message, at least an email would be more believable. Also as someone mentioned earlier, the amount of typos is ridiculous for a lawyer, which leads me to believe it wasn't written by the actual lawyer himself and instead someone else who was just using (with permission) this lawyer's name so as to appear official. Either way, there is an actual lawyer involved and it is regarding Mootshell and her offspring and things that were said about them.

Welcome Gidget1234 you are now listed as #180 on the official Drama Club Member List. Happy Reading, Happy Posting, and Happy New Year.

[BebeSD]

Back from holidays and vacation and reporting in for 2008 - Happy New Year fellow members - thanks for the entertainment and invisible kinship in 2007. Here's to more drama and laughs this year!

[Wabbitsd]

Red, that's awful. Amazing he survived. Man. I can't say any more about it.

[mnguy]

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[Wabbitsd]

Palaver...Palaver...wasn't he that hired gun cowboy guy that used a chess piece on his calling card...wait. Did cowboys have calling cards? Welcome mn guy. I take it you aren't going to go ask Carl to handle any tricky bankrupcties you encounter, either...I swore off him. I liked the case he cites where the opposition just didn't show up. What a class act!

I really wish he would come and visit. I have some questions about how his diet is coming along...if he is using FH's mathematical formula, things should be going great.

And now that we all know he is at Disneyland for an extended period of time, who's taking care of the yappy pooch? We really need some answers.

I conjecture that FH is getting a lap band put in place. He'll be eating almonds and sushi again, and we may be getting more info than we really want about how this all digests.

I'm starting to feel Carl doesn't like us.

[Jammie J.]

Happy New Year to all.

And, hey, why is it that so many new posters get into it with InsightByJake?:gle:

[listener13]

I conjecture that FH is getting a lap band put in place. He'll be eating almonds and sushi again, and we may be getting more info than we really want about how this all digests.

I'm starting to feel Carl doesn't like us.

You may have something on the lapband - that's an easier surgery than GBS, but you can gain it back because you can cheat with it, if you're crafty enough. But, we all know that FH isn't that crafty.

I'm so sad about that poor K9 police dog that died because of some idiot who, once again, decided they wanted to die, and took someone (or something) with them. People - if you want to die - GO FOR IT - we're not going to stop you - the world could do with less psychos. But quit taking people, children and dogs with you. Just go, peacefully, and leave everyone else the HElL out of it.

[insightbyjake]

Happy New Year to all.

And, hey, why is it that so many new posters get into it with InsightByJake?:gle:

I'm like a bouncer at a fine club.

You can't just let anyone in -- they've gotta have game.

:boxing:

[insightbyjake]

....leave everyone else the HElL out of it.

Was he German? :)

[Halinn]

Happy 2008 to all DC members. I have enjoyed the drama and silliness of 2007.

Here's to the Best Year Yet :cheers:

Halinn
DC member 19

P.S. Jake you crack me up.....keep it going this year :wavey2:

[Wabbitsd]

L13, Wish it were that easy.

[pax]

Happy New Year, Ya'll!

Or, as we are saying in my house, Happy Puke Year! Both kids vomited all night. But I figure that 2008 can only get better from here. :)

[DeltaPop]

Happy New Year to all.

And, hey, why is it that so many new posters get into it with InsightByJake?:gle:


Ah, Grasshopper, it takes true DRAMA queens to understand the ways of the Zen Master. One must be patient and learn.

[insightbyjake]

Ah, Grasshopper, it takes true DRAMA queens to understand the ways of the Zen Master. One must be patient and learn.

Yes. It is true.

"We cannot enter into alliances until we are acquainted with the designs of our neighbors.....Hence the saying: If you know the enemy and know yourself, your victory will not stand in doubt."

"The enemy's spies who have come to spy on us must be sought out, tempted with bribes, led away and comfortably housed. Thus they will become converted spies and available for our service."

Sun Tzu

[Wabbitsd]

ok, Jake, who told you I was up to no good?

Pax, yikes! They're tag-teamin ya guys? jeesh!

"The enemy's spies who have come to spy on us must be sought out, tempted with bribes, led away and comfortably housed. Thus they will become converted spies and available for our service."

[zodiac]

Happy New Year, Ya'll!

Or, as we are saying in my house, Happy Puke Year! Both kids vomited all night. But I figure that 2008 can only get better from here. :)

Pax, I had a puking kiddo last night too! What's up with that?? Thankfully it was only once and then he was fine. I'm hoping it was bad Chinese and not the fluuuuuuuuuuuuu!

Happy New Year everyone!

[pax]

Zodiac, my 4 year old puked 3 times and is all better (tho prob still contagious). My baby has stopped vomiting and now is sleeping, waking only to get a diarrhea diaper change or sips of water. Fun times!

[SDGirl87]

Happy New Year my DC Buddies!

Here's to 2008. May the only "Sunnie" days we know be those filled with warmth, honesty and genuineness.

Peace on earth, and goodwill to all people.

[insightbyjake]

Zodiac, my 4 year old puked 3 times and is all better (tho prob still contagious). My baby has stopped vomiting and now is sleeping, waking only to get a diarrhea diaper change or sips of water. Fun times!


:puke: :censored: :nono:

Can't even finish my guacamole. Too many puke posts...:dead:

[Trixie]

Welcome mnguy, feel free to create your personal signature using the numbers 181. They are the same backwards, forwards, and upside down.

On another note. I went mtn biking with the family this morning in PQ canyon. I really thought I saw someone that resembled his fatness (XXXL) riding toward me from the opposite direction. Of course he wasn't wearing a helmet (if it even was him), probably because his head was so Fat! It looked like him, but I couldn't do the double glance, to be sure.

So, if FH wants to blog about riding in Penasquitos Canyon on NYD, you read about it here, first. No helmet, dumb, dumb, dumb. Sort of like having sex w/o a condom. "I'll be careful." But, having the fat head, perhaps helmets are hard to find in XXXL. I think it all must have been a mirage, the absence of blogs and radio have made me see his image.

And, no, I didn't have a hangover and was seeing double or anything like that. I was asleep before 10 last night. Went for a nice long hike on New Year's Eve day. Exercise is first on my list of fun things to do with the family.

Have a great 2008 my invisipeeps! I'll keep giving out numbers upon request. And I don't plan to remove anyone from the list, that would probably require a court order or something legal. I just like to mathematically increase our group size.

Oh, one thing more, in my long post, was Carl Jr (listed as II in his name, I say we call him Carl Jr) in the TummyTube Christmas Carol/Surprise Party/Bench Gift? I don't want to investigate that, but if anyone remembers or cares to review, provide any results, please.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I just went and watched (what I could stand to watch) of the TubbyTube Cowles Mountain Bench episode. Oy.

I couldn't pick out Carl Jr. or his wife, but with the video quality as poor as it still is...well, pretty impossible to identify someone unless they were front and center.

I wish someone would give the person filming TubbyTube a tripod - it sure would make watching the trainwreck a whole lot easier.

[Wabbitsd]

Ok, I have been dying to say this: what? you couldn't pick out Carl's wife in the tube pix? How many OTHER women have faces that can't move, and only can barely smile?

meow meow meow meow

[OneKidOneDogMom]

what? you couldn't pick out Carl's wife in the tube pix? How many OTHER women have faces that can't move, and only can barely smile?

Well, all the women I noticed had long hair and she has short hair and a rather large forehead....

But then, I got caught up in all the bad videography and maybe didn't look close enough. Please don't make me watch it again....please!

[J&JSuck]

Happy New Year DC friends! A year ago I had no idea this place even existed, much less to find it was chock full of people as tired of the J&J spewgram as I was. Love you all!! Except the posers...(that's what we used to call them in high school...)
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Dawnski]

Happy New Year - looking forward to more entertainment from you guys in the coming year. I just hope that I can help provide it!

[SDGirl87]

On behalf of all of the DC Charter members, welcome to all of the newbies!

We use a lot of code words and initials here, and in order for you to keep up, I thought I'd provide a list translating it! Feel free to add to the list. We've done this before, but it's been a while, and we have a lot of new folks!

DC= Drama Club (that's us)
IF= Invisible Friends (that's also us)
LBM= Laura Bugs Me
FH= Fat Head (Tommy, Tubsy, Sir Tubsalot, Tubby...)*
JERK= Jer
Sunnie= A former DC member who pulled a nasty hoax (her screen name here was SurfinTexan)
Moochelle, Moochie, MootShell = Michelle, Tubsy's "fiance"

* Out of respect to LaDanian Tomlinson, Tommy is NEVER referred to as "LT". San Diego has one LT already, and we're all very proud of him!!

[mnguy]

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[RowdyOne]

On behalf of all of the DC Charter members, welcome to all of the newbies!

We use a lot of code words and initials here, and in order for you to keep up, I thought I'd provide a list translating it! Feel free to add to the list. We've done this before, but it's been a while, and we have a lot of new folks!

DC= Drama Club (that's us)
IF= Invisible Friends (that's also us)
LBM= Laura Bugs Me
FH= Fat Head (Tommy, Tubsy, Sir Tubsalot, Tubby...)*
JERK= Jer
Sunnie= A former DC member who pulled a nasty hoax (her screen name here was SurfinTexan)
Moochelle, Moochie, MootShell = Michelle, Tubsy's "fiance"

* Out of respect to LaDanian Tomlinson, Tommy is NEVER referred to as "LT". San Diego has one LT already, and we're all very proud of him!!

Actually, this thread goes back to when J&J were on 100.7, and it's good to see some of the original DC members are still posting (and many more lurking, I'm sure).

Add: To "Pull a Dilbert (or DB)" means to post a stupid or redundant statement/inquiry. But it's ok if you say that you're aware you might be doing it.

Happy New Year, everyone! ;)

[BigAl]

We will take the DC to a higher level in 08.

[RowdyOne]

We will take the DC to a higher level in 08. I hope so, BigAl

[BigAl]

Please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura, please don't hire Laura!


A quote from the early days of the "drama" DC club.

[garybear]

[QUOTE=PRINTER]uh....talk about "dating our flaws"...it was 1988!!!!

It doesn't appear that LBM has changed much. Yes, she goes to meetings and repeats what she's "supposed" to say...but she still craves attention and still wants to be young forever and wants to be her kids' friend. I hate hearing stories about how Charlie acts like the grown up...a very typical by-product of having an alcoholic parent. Causes lots of problems when that parent NEVER grows up.

Thanks for all of the invisible hugs for our dog- we all need them!

PRINTER- you are so right about LBM. Anyone can talk the talk but walking the walk is very different. Craving attention and not getting attention= trying to mask the pain= rehab and a loss of stability in life. I truly wish her the best in her "program" but would also like to see her walk the 12-step walk.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Do any of you live close enough to PQ to take a peek at the Casa del Sablan to see what vehicles are around? Wonder if LBM is still in residence or if they're all on vacation...???

I find it definitely WEIRD that XXXL (another name for the Tubby One) has not blahgged in two weeks.

And are they supposed to be back at work tomorrow or not until next Monday? Anyone know?

[insightbyjake]

[I][QUOTE=PRINTER].....I truly wish her the best in her "program" but would also like to see her walk the 12-step walk.

I've often wondered about the 12-step walk. It's like a secret club that only a few can join.

I'm not complaining -- in fact, I support the 12-step program by focusing on the first step: Drinking alot.

I also support Un-wed mothers.

I try to help them get started.

(When I was in college I attending Pro-choice rallies cause I figured...those chicks put out...)

HA! HA! HA! You FOOLS!!!!

For one year I've been posting as "Jake" but now reveal...I am Little Tommy Sablan!!!!

Facial!!!


I've nailed your pathetic thread!!!

And you thought I was "hiding" because I wasn't posting my blogs....LOSERS!!!

[insightbyjake]

Hey,

the weirdest thing happened.....someone seems to have planted a virus on my computer and gained control of my gotapex account.

I can't log on to see the posts. Anyone have any idea what's going on?

[Layla]

Stop. I laughed out loud, then the horror dawned. Just stop. Not a funy joke :p


I've often wondered about the 12-step walk. It's like a secret club that only a few can join.

I'm not complaining -- in fact, I support the 12-step program by focusing on the first step: Drinking alot.

I also support Un-wed mothers.

I try to help them get started.

(When I was in college I attending Pro-choice rallies cause I figured...those chicks put out...)

HA! HA! HA! You FOOLS!!!!

For one year I've been posting as "Jake" but now reveal...I am Little Tommy Sablan!!!!

Facial!!!


I've nailed your pathetic thread!!!

And you thought I was "hiding" because I wasn't posting my blogs....LOSERS!!!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Oh, Jake, you're scaring me......