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Burzhui
10-07-2005, 10:08 PM
So i think in new york if you shoot someone while they are in your house and you feel threatened is considered self defense.
What about stabbing someone... repeatedly?
Lets say someone sneaks into your house and you sneak up on them and cut their throat.. or you know like stab them through the heart.. that's more aggrivated, anyone knows how that works? Gug maybe you got an answer
ialsohaveadream
10-07-2005, 10:12 PM
So i think in new york if you shoot someone while they are in your house and you feel threatened is considered self defense.
What about stabbing someone... repeatedly?
Lets say someone sneaks into your house and you sneak up on them and cut their throat.. or you know like stab them through the heart.. that's more aggrivated, anyone knows how that works? Gug maybe you got an answer
I don't know how NY laws work. I'd imagine that you'd have to prove you still felt your life was in danger after you'd already stabbed the guy seven times.
oblongmelon
10-07-2005, 10:25 PM
So i think in new york if you shoot someone while they are in your house and you feel threatened is considered self defense.
What about stabbing someone... repeatedly?
Lets say someone sneaks into your house and you sneak up on them and cut their throat.. or you know like stab them through the heart.. that's more aggrivated, anyone knows how that works? Gug maybe you got an answer
In New York-you can defend your home, family and self anyway you can-as long as the intruder is completely INSIDE your home..(and if he's not-drag him in before you slit his throat)..it's self defense..you can bash in someone's head with a golf club as long as they are in your home without your consent and it's perfectly legal. .
Why are you asking???
zippyjuan
10-07-2005, 10:55 PM
Did you do something last night? Or just have a neighbor you can't stand?
BigJon
10-08-2005, 07:30 AM
I think stabbing someone repeatedly can show that you were trying to kill them...not really self defense. I mean, it all kind of depends on how the prosecuting lawyer wants to use it.
They can kind of use it to show that the person had no self control and continued to stab and kill the victim (robber), instead of just stabbing him once to "scare him off" or immobilize him.
What the hell did you do?
Butch
10-08-2005, 08:37 AM
What the hell did you do?
:stupid: . . . why do I get the feeling Burz should be calling a lawyer instead of chatting on these boards . . . Burz, remember, anything you tell your lawyer is privileged . . . but anything you say on here is in the public domain and could be used against you . . . :P
DarkFury
10-08-2005, 09:14 AM
So i think in new york if you shoot someone while they are in your house and you feel threatened is considered self defense.
What about stabbing someone... repeatedly?
Lets say someone sneaks into your house and you sneak up on them and cut their throat.. or you know like stab them through the heart.. that's more aggrivated, anyone knows how that works? Gug maybe you got an answer
The first 2 or 3 cuts... and you may go free... in self defense
Stab the guy like 31 times... and you'll be up on manslaughter charges.
Merlin
10-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Lets say someone sneaks into your house and you sneak up on them and cut their throat..
You try that and you'll be in big trouble. You can't just kill someone unless they are threatening you. They have to come at you or reach for something. If you sneak up from behind and do him it is murder. It is not self defense unless they are actually threatening you.
ShawnLee
10-08-2005, 11:48 AM
Check with a lawyer, not us. The issue is that different states have different standards and conditions. Florida did everyone there a favor by removing a condition of self-defense whereby it was illegal to kill someone attacking you if you retreat. So consider situations like that.
cruelpupet
10-08-2005, 02:19 PM
I think stabbing someone repeatedly can show that you were trying to kill them...not really self defense. I mean, it all kind of depends on how the prosecuting lawyer wants to use it.
They can kind of use it to show that the person had no self control and continued to stab and kill the victim (robber), instead of just stabbing him once to "scare him off" or immobilize him.
What the hell did you do?
I think you could get out of this with the "movie defense". In every movie, just when you think the "killer" is dead, he gets up and attacks you again. You were just making sure that he didnt do that with 31 stabs.
GilbertsGrape
10-11-2005, 07:05 AM
i asked a KSP person about this a while back and he said you can use as much force as is used againts you. if they have a wepon and they are trying to use it then you can use a wepon againts them.
jstreet
10-11-2005, 07:17 AM
The firrrrrst cut is the deeeeepest...
It's on Napster, sorry lol :P
Cubsfan
10-11-2005, 07:26 AM
Wiggum: Once a man is in your home, anything you do to him is nice and legal.
Homer: Is that so? Oh, Flanders! Won't you join me in my kitchen? (chuckles evilly)
Wiggum: Er... it doesn't work if you invite him.
Flanders: Hey-dilly hey!
Homer: (sourly) Go home!
Flanders: (unfazed) Too-dilly doo!
DarkFury
10-11-2005, 07:31 AM
i asked a KSP person about this a while back and he said you can use as much force as is used againts you. if they have a wepon and they are trying to use it then you can use a wepon againts them.
wepon?
againts?
Hmmm... hangover typing? :shrug: :D
Lolita
10-11-2005, 08:42 AM
What about stabbing someone... repeatedly?
Lets say someone sneaks into your house and you sneak up on them and cut their throat.. or you know like stab them through the heart..
:gle: Ok, I think I have to keep in mind that when we move in together I can never go to the bathroom in the middle of the night.
WhiskeyPapa
10-11-2005, 09:49 AM
i asked a KSP person about this a while back and he said you can use as much force as is used againts you. if they have a wepon and they are trying to use it then you can use a wepon againts them.Well, laws vary by state and locale, but that's a stupid interpretation and/or law. When some drug-addled ne'er-do-well breaks into my house, I'm not going to take the time to interview him and take an inventory of his possessions.
I may do him the favor of aiming my shotgun at his kneecap instead of his chest, but I won't offer much more consideration than that.
DarkFury
10-11-2005, 09:55 AM
I may do him the favor of aiming my shotgun at his kneecap instead of his chest, but I won't offer much more consideration than that.
Then he'll come back and sue you for "permanently crippling him"... :2far:
molecularfire
10-11-2005, 01:01 PM
Yeah, it's better to kill someone than to injur them. The dead can't sue and the dead can't lie. That said, do it quick and in as few movements as possible because even I won't buy that any stab beyond 20 is in self-defense. IMO if someone breaks into my house, they are automatically a threat to my family and I hope I will do everything I can to eradicate that threat. If I go to jail, so be it.
tupacboy
10-11-2005, 02:29 PM
depends how big ur knife is... :)... multiple wounds from a 1" knife doesn't sound as bad as multiple wounds from a 12" blade....
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