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Itsme
11-01-2005, 05:30 AM
Will Wal-Mart sell $398 notebooks, desktops?
By Michael Kanellos
Staff Writer, CNET News.com

Published: October 31, 2005, 3:43 PM PST

Wal-Mart and Hewlett-Packard will likely celebrate this Thanksgiving season by attempting to crush their competitors with low-price desktops and notebooks, according to a Web site that tracks bargains.

Black Friday 2005, which posts information about retail deals, posted scans of what appear to be future Wal-Mart newspaper inserts featuring a $398 laptop and a $398 desktop with an LCD monitor from HP. The notebook deal, if consummated, would represent a new low in price for mainstream Windows laptops.

The laptop in the ad comes with a 2800+ Sempron processor from Advanced Micro Devices, 256MB of memory, a 40GB hard drive, a CD-RW/DVD drive and a 15-inch screen.

The desktop, meanwhile, comes with a 3000+ Sempron, 512MB of memory, a 40GB drive and a 15-inch LCD.

The upcoming computers will likely be among several bargains touted on so-called Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving that remains the biggest U.S. shopping day of the year.

The expected Wal-Mart deals are "pretty aggressive," said Steve Baker, an analyst at The NPD Group. "But it sure as hell won't be the last $399 notebook or the only one on Black Friday."

Black Friday 2005 does not reveal its sources, and stated that retail deals can change before they come out. Nonetheless, the site noted that it has a good probability of success. Baker and others have also said that PC makers would be extremely aggressive in pricing by the end of the year. During the summer, Baker said that $499 laptops would become somewhat common by the holidays.

"We think it is probably legitimate," said John Spindler, who covers retail bargains at consulting firm Current Analysis.

HP declined to comment on future PC models and the pricing strategy of retailers and Wal-Mart could not be reached for comment.

HP has been somewhat aggressive this year in cutting prices in the retail market. Right before the back-to-school season, the company released a Windows laptop that sold for $499 after rebates. Before that, some companies, including Wal-Mart, sold $499 laptops, but they typically came with processors from Via, as well as Linux operating systems.

Acer, Toshiba and other manufacturers soon followed with similar deals that lasted brief periods.

HP also touted $199 desktops at some retailers, but for very short periods of time and with restrictions.

Partly as a result, HP also stopped losing ground to rival Dell in the third quarter. The two companies saw shipments grow at about the same rate, a phenomenon that hadn't occured for several quarters.

Wal-Mart needs to be aggressive this holiday season, said Baker. For the last two years, the company has come out with somewhat pedestrian offers for the holiday season, and not experienced a huge bump in sales.

What makes the possible offer particularly interesting is that Wal-Mart often will stock 50 to 100 of its "special deal" PCs in each store. By contrast, some retailers will sometimes stock only a token number of advertised specials in each store.

"There could be a couple of hundred thousand of these on shelves," Baker said. "They (Wal-Mart) certainly learned their lesson from last year."

Although often thought of as a purveyor of fishing waders and household appliances, Wal-Mart is also one of the largest PC retailers in the nation, often ranking as No. 2.

shocky123
11-01-2005, 06:15 AM
Hell, I'll take one.. can always use a super cheap laptop to take to class.

~Kyle

Sirrich3
11-01-2005, 06:27 AM
Hmmm, an after Thanksgiving item...

TruckStuff
11-01-2005, 07:00 AM
HP computers == big steaming pile of ****. They used to be OK, but their quality was drug down by all that useless Compaq junk they incorporated. IMHO, $398 is asking too much for these things.

DarkFury
11-01-2005, 07:23 AM
HP computers == big steaming pile of ****. They used to be OK, but their quality was drug down by all that useless Compaq junk they incorporated. IMHO, $398 is asking too much for these things.
:stupid: Yeah, I can't get overly excited about this as well for the same reason. Compaq + HP = "ultimate PC suck" since E-Machines. :dead:

MikeD
11-01-2005, 07:26 AM
For those interested...

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/ma/maxima1/BF2005WalMart7_1.jpg

bachviet
11-01-2005, 07:53 AM
The $398 laptop sounds pretty good.

kgsilvas
11-01-2005, 08:21 AM
The refurbished Dell laptops (with a good warranty!) are a better deal at about $500 than $400 for a problem-ridden Compaq/HP.

Grimm
11-01-2005, 10:39 AM
HP computers == big steaming pile of ****. They used to be OK, but their quality was drug down by all that useless Compaq junk they incorporated. IMHO, $398 is asking too much for these things.
Not really. HP started sucking before the merger and can suck very much all on it's own. Thank Carly for that. She killed the engineering culture there and eliminated an chance for quality products for a long time.

Bires
11-01-2005, 03:28 PM
I'de rather have the $399AR Inspiron. Plus, you would have to wait outside a Wal-Zoo for three hours with usual suspects :nuts: to get the deal. Pass.

kgsilvas
11-01-2005, 03:41 PM
It seems that the $398 notebook will be an HP ze2308wm

Microprocessor: 1.6 Ghz Mobile AMD Sempron™ processor 2800+ with AMD PowerNow!™ Technology
Microprocessor Cache: 256KB L2 Cache
Memory: 256MB 333MHz DDR System Memory (1 Dimm)
Memory Max: 1024MB
Video Graphics: ATI RADEON® XPRESS 200M IGP
Video Memory: 32MB DDR (shared), user configurable up to 128MB
Hard Drive: 40GB (4200RPM) Hard Drive
Diskette Drive: NONE. External USB Floppy Drive available for customers via hpshopping.com or local retailers
Multimedia Drive: 24X DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive
Display: 15.0" XGA TFT Display (1024 x 768)
Fax/Modem: High speed 56k modem
Network Card: Integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector)
Wireless Connectivity: 54g™ 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM/SpeedBooster support
Sound: Altec Lansing
Keyboard: 101-key compatible
Pointing Device: Touch Pad with dedicated vertical Scroll Up/Down pad
PC Card Slots: 1 Type I/II 32-bit card bus (also support 16-bit)
External Ports: 2 Universal Serial Bus (USB) 2.0, 1 headphone-out, 1 microphone-in, 1 VGA (15-pin), 1 TV-Out (S-video), 1 RJ-11 (modem), 1 RJ -45 (LAN)
Dimensions: 13.15"(W) x 10.80"(L) x 1.29"(min)/1.63"(max)(H)
Weight: 6.51lbs
Security: Kensington® MicroSaver lock slot, Power-on password, Accepts 3rd party security lock devices
Power: 65W AC adapter, 6-Cell Lithium-Ion (43Whr)