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johnnymk

11-06-2005, 05:08 AM

OK, T.O. is a big mouth and a spoiled brat, but the struggling Eagles need all the help they can muster this season.

McNabb is sloppy again this season and the defense is just not up to par, so I believe they should swallow their pride and let him start playing in a few weeks:

Eagles have heard enough: Owens suspended indefinitely
Philadelphia, PA (Sports Network) - Philadelphia Eagles controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens has reportedly been suspended indefinitely due to conduct deemed detrimental to the team.

Owens has also been battling a severely sprained ankle, which put his availability for this week's game in jeopardy. However, after missing Wednesday's practice, Owens was upgraded from doubtful to questionable and it appeared he would be ready to go.

According to 610 WIP in Philadelphia, though, head coach Andy Reid decided to suspend the enigmatic wideout for numerous comments he has made about the organization this week.

The radio station, however, did not report how many games Owens would miss, but it is certain that he will not play in Sunday night's key divisional contest against Washington.

Earlier in the week, Owens made comments about how the organization "lacked class" after not recognizing the fact that he caught his 100th career touchdown pass in an October 23 game against San Diego. Owens also claimed that the team's comment of allegedly forgetting about the milestone touchdown was a "blatant lie" and it insulted the receiver.

Philadelphia does not typically honor individual achievements on the scoreboard or stop the game to celebrate an accomplishment.

Then, in the same interview, Owens addressed the team's quarterback situation and stated that the Eagles would have a better record and even perhaps be undefeated if All Pro Brett Favre was under center opposed to Donovan McNabb.

However, on Friday, Owens delivered a written apology for his remarks.

"I've had the opportunity to talk with the Eagles organization, and I have learned the team does not recognize individual achievements," Owens uttered. "It has been brought to my attention that I have offended the organization and my teammates. Therefore, I would like to apologize for any derogatory comments toward them."

Owens also took back the comments about McNabb, saying that if the All Pro was not injured the team would have a better record. As of Friday afternoon, though, Owens still had not spoken with McNabb about the comment.

ialsohaveadream

11-06-2005, 05:22 AM

Bires

11-06-2005, 06:32 AM

Prophetic g|a link from last year:
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77860

MikeD

11-06-2005, 07:03 AM

Yeah, yeah, it's from The Trenton Times. But it's worth noting.

The guy is a first rate @sshole. Good riddance, and may we all :ptlaugh: at whichever teams signs him (after he's released) next offseason.

http://www.nj.com/sports/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1131270006260941.xml&coll=5

Suspended Eagle Owens got in a fight with Douglas

Sunday, November 06, 2005
By MARK ECKEL
Staff Writer

PHILADELPHIA - When Terrell Owens acted up in training camp, called out offensive coordinator Brad Childress and criticized quarterback Donovan McNabb, he was sent home for a week, but not suspended.

When Owens wore a Michael Irvin Dallas Cowboys throwback jersey after the Eagles lost to the Cowboys, 33-10, at Texas Stadium disrespecting anyone who ever played for or cheered for the Eagles, not only was he not reprimanded, head coach Andy Reid condoned his actions.

Owens went beyond all of that, when according to very reliable sources, he got into a fistfight with former Eagles defensive end and current team ambassador Hugh Douglas this past week in front of several teammates. On top of that he said the team "lacked class" in an interview with ESPN. The Eagles announced yesterday in a statement that Owens was suspended indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the team.

According to one of the sources the Owens-Douglas fight "was like WWE Smackdown."

Another source said both men threw at least two punches during the altercation and when it was over Owens challenged quarterback Donovan McNabb first and then everyone else in the room saying, "You want some. Anyone else want some."

Owens and Douglas, who coincidentally share the same agent, Drew Rosenhaus, have been at odds since training camp and almost got into an altercation in an elevator at Lehigh University.

When Owens demanded a new contract and threatened to hold out of camp, Douglas was one of the few players to step forward and say he should honor his current contract.

The Eagles refused to comment about the situation, other than the statement that revealed the suspension.

Owens was not at yesterday morning's walk-through and did not accompany the team on its trip to Washington for tonight's game, which will be nationally-televised on Owens' favorite station, ESPN.

Bires

11-06-2005, 07:24 AM

...may we all :ptlaugh: at whichever teams signs him (after he's released) next offseason.

It'll prolly be Oakland. :disa:

MikeD

11-06-2005, 08:00 AM

It'll prolly be Oakland. :disa:

I'm betting Washington, Oakland, or Tampa, or (maybe) Denver...

Sirrich3

11-06-2005, 09:05 AM

He spoke what he wanted to, suspended as he should

AlpineJay

11-06-2005, 09:56 AM

I think the Eagles took a stance by suspending him indefinitely - they're saying they won't take any more of this crap and that teamwork is more valued than an individual's abilities. I say my hats off to them. I'm not an Eagles fan but I think they made the right call and hope to never see him with the Eagles organization.

TO is a crybaby and has quickly made himself a pariah with his new team - my money's on that wherever he goes, he will do exactly that, time after time. His excuses for his demeanor, which are his tough upbringings, are just pitiful. Tons of NFL players and other pro athletes of similar backgrounds seem to have no issues performning and behaving like a team player.

zenbooty

11-06-2005, 10:20 AM

The team simply can't continue to allow T.O. to throw McNabb under the bus and not back up their QB and franchise guy (as well as team leader). McNabb's too important to the team long term to undercut him by letting T.O. get away wih his comments. There was no way they'd be keeping T.O. beyond this season after this, so you may as well bite the bullet for the good of the team's chemistry and overall psyche.

nickel

11-06-2005, 10:46 AM

ialsohaveadream

11-06-2005, 03:16 PM

I'm betting Washington, Oakland, or Tampa, or (maybe) Denver...
Hey, don't throw my team in there! We were the ones who wouldn't take much more tame sh*t from Keyshawn...there's no way we'd go after Owens.

AlpineJay

11-06-2005, 04:05 PM

More news on this, turns out there's more to it than what was initially reported:

It might not have been just Terrell Owens' fighting words that led to his suspension from the Eagles.

It seems a fistfight also contributed to his being banished indefinitely.

Owens got into a fight on Wednesday with former Eagles defensive end and current team ambassador Hugh Douglas, the Trenton Times reported and ESPN's Chris Mortensen confirmed Sunday.

A team source told Mortensen that Douglas, whose post with the Eagles he re-titled "bad-ass-ador," entered the team's training room Wednesday and announced "I know there are people in here faking injuries." The comment apparently led to the scrum between Owens and Douglas.

One source told the Times the fight "was like WWE Smackdown." Another source told the paper both Douglas and Owens threw at least two punches before Owens challenged quarterback Donovan McNabb and then everyone else in the room, saying "You want some? Anyone else want some?"

The scrap is just another incident in a week of unrest that led to Owens being suspended indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the team on Saturday.

Early in the week, Owens apprised Philadelphia officials that he had sprained his ankle in last Sunday's loss to the Denver Broncos, and might require some time off. One day later, he was back at practice and seemingly prepared to play against the Redskins.

On Thursday, Owens blasted McNabb and the organization in an ESPN.com interview which spurred a Friday meeting with Eagles coach Andy Reid.

On Friday, Mortensen reports, Reid gave Owens three stipulations: Apologize to the organization, the team and to McNabb.

McNabb told ESPN's Suzy Kolber he called a team meeting Friday, which Owens attended, to discuss the team's unrest and pronounced to all, looking at T.O. directly, "You're either with me or against me."

Owens' apologies in private to the club and in public on Friday apparently did not meet Reid's standards and T.O. was suspended on Saturday.

According to the paper, Owens and Douglas have been at odds since training camp where they almost got into an altercation in an elevator at Lehigh University. Douglas was among the few players to publicly say Owens should honor his current contract when T.O. demanded a new one this past offseason.

When asked about the fight, the Eagles declined to comment.

In seven games this season, Owens has 47 catches for 763 yards and six touchdowns.

This is the second time Owens has been suspended during his controversial 10-year career. While a 49er in 2000, he was suspended one game by San Francisco coach Steve Mariucci following his touchdown celebrations on the Cowboys' star logo at the center of Texas Stadium.

I think validates what everyone's been saying about him all the more.

johnnymk

11-06-2005, 06:35 PM

More news on this, turns out there's more to it than what was initially reported:

I think validates what everyone's been saying about him all the more.

That was something I wasn't aware of. Yes, after reading that, it does appear that the suspension was justified. Boy, what an idiot!

guiseppewv

11-06-2005, 08:21 PM

I am glad TO was suspended. Glad to see he is starting to get something he deserves.

bachviet

11-06-2005, 08:56 PM

He deserves every bit of it. Suspension without pay serves him right.

mcs328

11-07-2005, 06:36 AM

The Redskins had an easier time without him last night :). Mmmm...more free pizza toppings.

LegendKiller

11-07-2005, 08:05 AM

They just need to put a lock on his mouth and throw away the key. It has been shown time and again that players like him (ie moss, keyshawn, sapp) are more trouble than they are worth.

guiseppewv

11-07-2005, 03:00 PM

He deserves every bit of it. Suspension without pay serves him right.

I agree but I think they can only suspend him for 4 games w/o pay. I heard that last night during the Philly/'Skins game.

zenbooty

11-07-2005, 03:09 PM

I agree but I think they can only suspend him for 4 games w/o pay. I heard that last night during the Philly/'Skins game.
Yes, but after that they can release him outright.

guiseppewv

11-07-2005, 03:14 PM

Yes, but after that they can release him outright.

According to ESPN:

Owens is scheduled to earn $3.25 million this season, meaning the four-game suspension would cost him almost $800,000.

The Eagles will have to pay Owens nearly $1 million to stay home the final five games.

Owens will either be traded or released after the season. He is due to receive a $5 million roster bonus in March 2006, so the Eagles will decide his fate before then.

ialsohaveadream

11-07-2005, 04:12 PM

Ok, so let's start the predictions: Where does Owens end up next year? I can only pray it's not on my team. :)

MikeD

11-07-2005, 04:20 PM

Ok, so let's start the predictions: Where does Owens end up next year? I can only pray it's not on my team. :)

Falcons
'Skins
Raiders (not sure how salary cap wise, just makes sense)
Broncos (?)

ialsohaveadream

11-07-2005, 04:59 PM

Snyder's crazy enough to sign Owens, but I think if Joe Gibbs is still coaching, he'd flip sh*t if that happened.

What about the Saints or Bills?

MikeD

11-07-2005, 05:05 PM

Snyder's crazy enough to sign Owens, but I think if Joe Gibbs is still coaching, he'd flip sh*t if that happened.

What about the Saints or Bills?

I heard that argument today here in DC, but I don't know if it's a guarentee that Gibbs is back next year.

Saints? Bills? I'd be surprised. I think Owens would only go to a place where he saw a potential Super Bowl team (paging Deion Sanders, circa 1994), and neither one of those teams are it.

Falcons are. 'Skins probably will be. Broncos too...

ialsohaveadream

11-07-2005, 05:19 PM

Talent-wise, Owens would put the Falcons at least in the NFC Championship game if Atlanta were willing to give up their ridiculous offense that plays to NONE of Mike Vick's strengths.

guiseppewv

11-08-2005, 08:58 AM

He is not going to the Raiders for 2 reasons:
1) They already have Moss and those 2 egos could not fit on the same roster.
2) They already have a lot of dough spent on their WRs (Moss and Porter)

I do think that the "bad boy" Raiders would normally be the best place for his ego.

guiseppewv

11-08-2005, 09:02 AM

I heard that argument today here in DC, but I don't know if it's a guarentee that Gibbs is back next year.

Saints? Bills? I'd be surprised. I think Owens would only go to a place where he saw a potential Super Bowl team (paging Deion Sanders, circa 1994), and neither one of those teams are it.

Falcons are. 'Skins probably will be. Broncos too...

As long as he doesn't go to the Steelers then whereever he goes I could care less. :)

'Skins aren't near being superbowl ready. Their O needs a lot of work.

The Falcons would never make use of TO until they get a real passing QB.......and NO having the first 200+ (note: this is not 300+ or 400+) passing game of your NFL career against a 2-4 team (now 2-5) does not make you a QB who is a proficient passer....sorry Ron Mexico.

I could see him ending up in Denver on a 1 yr contract.

MikeD

11-08-2005, 11:00 AM

:hehehmm:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/toidiot.gif

Merlin

11-08-2005, 11:40 AM

DarkFury

11-08-2005, 12:23 PM

A malcontent like this was just made for the Silver & Black (sorry Kevster)

And really, someone needs to sit this guy down and explain the concept of killing the goose that lays the golden egg. Thanks to this incident there is not team that would take a flier on him unless he came really cheap. So that raise he was holding out for at the beginning of the season is just a dream now. He'll be lucky to get paid half of what the Eagles would have paid him.
Honestly, we'll have to see about this...

Pretty much T.O. has skills to back up his mouth and I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE out there is willing to take a risk on him to reap the possible rewards.

We've seen this plenty of times before... and usually the player of this level still gets paid. Now if he were a lesser player, then I'd agree that he is cutting his own throat...

But we shall see...

nickel

11-08-2005, 12:28 PM

he just now had a news conference and ate some crow. he apologized every which way to everyone he has offended.

that's the first step T.O.

VTGreg

11-08-2005, 12:31 PM

As long as he doesn't go to the Steelers then whereever he goes I could care less. :)

'Skins aren't near being superbowl ready. Their O needs a lot of work.

The Falcons would never make use of TO until they get a real passing QB.......and NO having the first 200+ (note: this is not 300+ or 400+) passing game of your NFL career against a 2-4 team (now 2-5) does not make you a QB who is a proficient passer....sorry Ron Mexico.

I could see him ending up in Denver on a 1 yr contract.

This week was Vick's first 200+ yard passing game of this year. He has had plenty of 200 yard passing days and even a few 300 yard passing days previously.

VTGreg

11-08-2005, 12:32 PM

Honestly, we'll have to see about this...

Pretty much T.O. has skills to back up his mouth and I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE out there is willing to take a risk on him to reap the possible rewards.

We've seen this plenty of times before... and usually the player of this level still gets paid. Now if he were a lesser player, then I'd agree that he is cutting his own throat...

But we shall see...

I would be surprised if he got a big contract after he gets released by the Eagles. He will be the first player to ever have conduct incentives built into his contract.

Grimm

11-08-2005, 12:35 PM

Good for the Eagles. No matter how good they play, if someone can't be a decent human being they shouldn't be playing in any professional sports.

MikeD

11-08-2005, 12:57 PM

I would be surprised if he got a big contract after he gets released by the Eagles. He will be the first player to ever have conduct incentives built into his contract.

Don't the Bengals load some of that stuff into their contracts? They began incorporating it after their issues with Corey Dillon...

DarkFury

11-08-2005, 02:28 PM

MikeD

11-08-2005, 02:31 PM

Hmmm... I'm just wondering...

Maybe the Eagles should have just let him go at the BEGINNING of the season when this all started instead of draggin' it out to this...

Pretty much they knew he didn't wanna play there for them anymore... yet they sorta forced him to do so (i.e. so he could "get his check to feed his family" and all :hihi: )

And it STILL comes back to this. So was it worth it? :shrug: Looks like a bunch of stress for no reason to me... :shrug:

I think they're trying to stick it to T.O. for all they can. He wants to be released, so that's why they're holding on to him.

BTW, the extension for Westbrook this past weekend? Have you ever seen a bigger F-U in your life? They gave him what's he been asking for all along, which is the exact opposite of how they've handled T.O.'s situation.

They'll release him this off-season, but the damage has been done. I don't think he'll see the type of money he would have seen had he been released this past off-season, and his contract will probably be loaded with conduct incentives. Basically T.O. has screwed himself...but he'll probably never figure that out.

:ptlaugh:

guiseppewv

11-08-2005, 02:43 PM

This week was Vick's first 200+ yard passing game of this year. He has had plenty of 200 yard passing days and even a few 300 yard passing days previously.

My mistake, he had 3-200+ passing games last season (NO, SD, & DEN), none in 2003, 6 in 2002 (1-300+ which is his only one in his career), and 1 in 2001. Not much to write home about. His ratings by season are: 2001-62.7 2002-81.6, 2003-69.0, 2004-78.1, and 2005-70.8. Not much to write home about. His only 300+ yd game came against the juggernaut of defense - Detroit.

I still find it funny that he thinks that he silenced his critics with a 200+ yd game.....against Miami. :rolleyes:

guiseppewv

11-08-2005, 02:45 PM

I think they're trying to stick it to T.O. for all they can. He wants to be released, so that's why they're holding on to him.

BTW, the extension for Westbrook this past weekend? Have you ever seen a bigger F-U in your life? They gave him what's he been asking for all along, which is the exact opposite of how they've handled T.O.'s situation.

They'll release him this off-season, but the damage has been done. I don't think he'll see the type of money he would have seen had he been released this past off-season, and his contract will probably be loaded with conduct incentives. Basically T.O. has screwed himself...but he'll probably never figure that out.

:ptlaugh:

Part of Westbrook's contract was due to the fact that they had room under this year's cap and if they signed him to a new contract last week they could still count some of his $$$$$$$ to this year's cap. But, I am sure it pi$$ed off TO which is a great thing. What an idiot.

guiseppewv

11-08-2005, 02:48 PM

Good for the Eagles. No matter how good they play, if someone can't be a decent human being they shouldn't be playing in any professional sports.

:stupid:

Hmmm... I'm just wondering...

Maybe the Eagles should have just let him go at the BEGINNING of the season when this all started instead of draggin' it out to this...

Pretty much they knew he didn't wanna play there for them anymore... yet they sorta forced him to do so (i.e. so he could "get his check to feed his family" and all :hihi: )

And it STILL comes back to this. So was it worth it? :shrug: Looks like a bunch of stress for no reason to me... :shrug:

Yes it was worth it.

If they would have let him go at the beginning he could have signed with someone else. I think also, until the past couple of weeks, TO had a few supporters in the locker room and they would have been pi$$ed if TO was cut but now that TO has proven to 99% of the people in the NFL that he is an a-hole he gave management the ammo that they needed. Good Riddance!!!!

MikeD

11-08-2005, 03:26 PM

I still find it funny that he thinks that he silenced his critics with a 200+ yd game.....against Miami. :rolleyes:

Ehhh, that's just your Mountaineer stripes shining through! :hihi:

Paging Rasheed Marshell...paging Major Harris (j/k).

guiseppewv

11-08-2005, 03:39 PM

Ehhh, that's just your Mountaineer stripes shining through! :hihi:

Paging Rasheed Marshell...paging Major Harris (j/k).

Paging Marc Bulger.....paging Marc Bulger. :P :)

MikeD

11-08-2005, 05:08 PM

Paging Marc Bulger.....paging Marc Bulger. :P :)

I knew I was missing one! How could I forget him? :eek3:

DarkFury

11-08-2005, 10:42 PM

:stupid:

Yes it was worth it.

If they would have let him go at the beginning he could have signed with someone else. I think also, until the past couple of weeks, TO had a few supporters in the locker room and they would have been pi$$ed if TO was cut but now that TO has proven to 99% of the people in the NFL that he is an a-hole he gave management the ammo that they needed. Good Riddance!!!!
Still sounds like a pretty "unfair" situation... especially since those NFL contracts are loaded in the favor of management.

Oh well... as I said before... I guess we'll just see what eventually happens with this. :shrug:

johnnymk

11-09-2005, 04:26 AM

Does that guy who represents T.O. remind anyone of Kurt Russell?

I was watching TV last night and commented to a friend of mine about the similarity. He said "Nah, that's an insult to Kurt".

speedracer120

11-09-2005, 09:47 AM

Yeah, his agent needs to be flogged just as much as TO does. If I were TO I would've fired his ass a long time ago. I think TO has the agent to blame for a bad contract not the Eagles.

Merlin

11-09-2005, 10:44 AM

T.O.'s current contract was signed with his previous agent. During the offseason he fired his old agent and hired Rosenhaus. So that begs the question...Did he fire his old agent because he wanted no part of this drama? Or did this drama come about because he hired Rosenhaus?

MikeD

11-09-2005, 11:10 AM

Or did this drama come about because he hired Rosenhaus?

:stupid:

You got it. He asked for a contract re-negotiation after he hired Rosenhaus...

zero2dash

11-10-2005, 10:08 AM

He fired his prior agent because he wanted more money (basically).
I'm not sure Rosenhaus has a spine...obviously he gets paid a lot of money (for representing a high price player like Owens) but he also looks like a complete jack@$$ at these press conferences. He's basically standing up for a player that badmouthed not only his team, but the entire organization that he works for...but Rosenhaus comes up with "he's misunderstood" or whatever the hell. What a worm. He must've been a defense attorney in a former life...

Anyhow -
Owens deserves what he gets. He's badmouthed the team and his teammates several times now...fool me once, shame on me; fool me twice, shame on you (or something like that). McNabb is the center of the Eagles franchise (like Favre in GB, Brady in NE, etc). TO badmouthed the leader, and you don't do that.

As for other teams going after him...good luck to them.
Dallas was lucky with Keyshawn. Keyshawn did similar crap in TB, calling out Gruden and generally complaining. Dallas took a chance on him - although I think it's partially because Keyshawn has worked well under Parcells before...now Keyshawn's the #1 receiver in Dallas and there's been little to no buzz about him being a "distraction" (maybe he's changed his ways; either that or they're keeping him happy so he shuts up).

I don't think Owens is going to have similar luxury. Owens was booted from SF for badmouthing the organization, then he was traded to Baltimore, where he held out/never showed up and said he'd never play for them (burning another bridge). He goes to Philly (his wish), plays one year, does well, and then decides "I want more money even though I just signed a 5 or 6 yr deal" so we end up here and now where he's badmouthed the team several times...needless to say...three strikes and you're out.

He won't end up in Oakland...they've already got Moss and they don't need him (in addition to what guiseppe said...Moss + TO = ego explosion of biblical proportions). I don't even think a team like GB who could use a receiver would take him (even with all the injury issues they've had this year). I don't know who's going to take a chance on him (if anyone does) but I guarantee that any contract of his will include a whole lot of stipulations in regards to his conduct/badmouthing, showboating, etc.

They played TO's press conference on Howard Stern yesterday and it was the most fake apologizing I've ever heard. He doesn't care and he didn't mean any of the crap he said; "I'm sorry", yeah we heard that already quite a few times from you, Owens. We don't believe you anymore.

As for Philly -
they're better off without him.
I read an interview recap with McNabb yesterday where he said something along the lines of "We're 4-4, not 1-7; things aren't as bad as people think. We're not dead and we're not out of contention." Greg Lewis and the rookie Brown will fill in nicely and give McNabb a good receiver core to throw to.

VTGreg

11-10-2005, 10:36 AM

My mistake, he had 3-200+ passing games last season (NO, SD, & DEN), none in 2003, 6 in 2002 (1-300+ which is his only one in his career), and 1 in 2001. Not much to write home about. His ratings by season are: 2001-62.7 2002-81.6, 2003-69.0, 2004-78.1, and 2005-70.8. Not much to write home about. His only 300+ yd game came against the juggernaut of defense - Detroit.

I still find it funny that he thinks that he silenced his critics with a 200+ yd game.....against Miami. :rolleyes:

I agree that he is not a prolific passer, but he just wins games. His numbers were skewed in 2003 because he was injured most of the season and I think that season set him back some in the passing game as well. After that Reeves was out and Mora and a whole knew offense were in.

He won't silence critics until he becomes a prototype passing QB, which will never happen. Bottom line, he moves the chains and wins games. Look at Atlanta in 2003 when Vick was out all season with an injury versus the two seasons that he played, 2002 and 2004.

LegendKiller

11-10-2005, 11:09 AM

guiseppewv

11-10-2005, 01:50 PM

The situation is both TO and the Eagle's fault. The Eagles gave him the bone on his old contract. TO performed well last year and should have been rewarded. However, the Eagles were greedy and didn't want to give him anything else. Their behavior guarenteed TO's behavior.

Why should they have given him more? He was already well paid *AND* he agreed to the contract. I personally would have told him to stuff it in his :censored: if TO would have asked me for more money after just 1 year under contract.

LegendKiller

11-10-2005, 02:46 PM

Why should they have given him more? He was already well paid *AND* he agreed to the contract. I personally would have told him to stuff it in his :censored: if TO would have asked me for more money after just 1 year under contract.

How was he getting "well paid". For his performance last year and his Super Bowl recovery efforts, his pay did *not* match his performance. Consider another player they signed before (last name begins with K, forgot who). I believe it was a 17mm contract for 3 with about 13mm of that being front-end loaded. Owens gets a 12 for 2 years with only 4-5 of that being front-end and the other dude was only a lineman or something. Not nearly the position or performance equality yet the exact opposite in pay.

They gave him the big bone because they were afraid of him doing what he did, but in doing so cause him to do what he did.

Sure, I can understand that TO self destructed, but the Eagles with the ignition to the fuse. 80/20 fault TO/Eagles.

ialsohaveadream

11-10-2005, 06:59 PM

Link (http://thebrushback.com/eagles_full.htm)

PHILADELPHIA--The Philadelphia Eagles threw a citywide ticker-tape parade on Monday to honor receiver Reggie Brown’s first touchdown catch, which he made during Sunday night’s game against the Redskins. Team owner Jeffrey Lurie, GM Joe Banner, and head coach Andy Reid presented Brown with a special plaque commemorating the event, and named Monday “Reggie Brown Day.”

“Reggie, this is a special day for you, a special day for the Eagles, and a special day for the city of Philadelphia,” Banner said before a crowd of approximately 1.2 million. “Your first touchdown catch was a moment that will live forever in the hearts of Eagles fans. It was a proud day for the whole organization. We love you, Reggie--unlike some other receivers on this team, who shall go nameless.”

Andy Reid was the next one up to the podium. He praised Brown for his work ethic and athleticism

“Reggie, every day you come to practice and work hard,” he began. “Your skill and talent never cease to amaze me. When I saw you make your first touchdown catch, all I could do was take off my headset and jump for joy. Only an athlete of your caliber could have accomplished something so special. That’s why I am presenting you with this plaque, on behalf of the entire organization, to commemorate your special day. I only wish a certain someone was here to witness this, just to see the look on his stupid face.”

The parade came as a surprise to many, as the Eagles have a policy against recognizing individual accomplishments. Nobody was more surprised than Brown, who said he couldn’t have done it without his teammates and coaches.

“I’d like to thank my teammates and coaches for supporting me throughout the year,” Brown told the crowd. “When I caught that pass on Sunday I was pretty excited, but I didn’t expect something like this. I guess it just goes to show how much class and integrity this organization has. And the fans are amazing, too. I can’t believe how many of you showed up here. Philadelphia, this parade if for you! Just kidding. It’s for me. You’re all just props.”

Afterward, an emotional Brown thanked the Eagles front office for “one of the proudest days of my life.”

“It’s just real special when your team shows you that kind of respect,” he told reporters. “You catch a touchdown pass—even your first one—and you don’t expect a ticker tape parade, especially since the team has an official policy against recognizing individual accomplishment. I’ll say one thing, though: If they celebrate like this for my first touchdown, I can’t even imagine what’s it’s gonna be like when I score my 100th touchdown.”

The front office was quick to point out that Monday’s parade was the exception and not the norm. They also denied changing their policy.

“We still have the same policy,” said Joe Banner. “It’s just that once in a while something happens that you have to stop and pay tribute to. Reggie’s catch was a wonderful moment for the city of Philadelphia, and it’s always nice when one of our own gets into the record books. And you know what? What the hell, since it was such a great catch, I’m going to guarantee the rest of his contract. That’s right, he’s going to get every penny of it, no matter what happens. I’m just in a good mood today.”

DarkFury

11-10-2005, 07:25 PM

Man... talk about OVERKILL... They sure are laying it on thick...

And that's what eventually is gonna bite all of them in the butt one day...

MikeD

11-11-2005, 05:33 AM

Man... talk about OVERKILL... They sure are laying it on thick...

And that's what eventually is gonna bite all of them in the butt one day...

Uhhh, I think they were being facetious...

Would have been pretty cool though. :hihi:

cheapie

11-11-2005, 06:23 AM

Honestly, we'll have to see about this...

Pretty much T.O. has skills to back up his mouth and I'm willing to bet that SOMEONE out there is willing to take a risk on him to reap the possible rewards.

We've seen this plenty of times before... and usually the player of this level still gets paid. Now if he were a lesser player, then I'd agree that he is cutting his own throat...

But we shall see...

i have no problem with a guy trash-talking. jordan did that and he could back it up. chad johnson talks like crazy...and backs it up. gary payton, same thing.

but TO's comments are not related to his ability to dominate the competition. they are aimed at his team and fellow players, not the competition. and HUGE difference IMHO.

johnnymk

11-11-2005, 06:27 AM

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johnnymk

11-11-2005, 06:44 AM

i have no problem with a guy trash-talking. jordan did that and he could back it up. chad johnson talks like crazy...and backs it up. gary payton, same thing.

but TO's comments are not related to his ability to dominate the competition. they are aimed at his team and fellow players, not the competition. and HUGE difference IMHO.

In an ideal "sports" world, I would agree. But today's teams are a bunch of individual players with specific contracts. Football is a business. The term "sports" no longer applies to this business, or else, players would be more sportsmanlike.

The worst trash talking about the Eagles comes from the Eagles fans, the newspapers and other media. Witness the booing when a player does something wrong on the field in Philadelphia.

I have never understood Reid's undying allegiance to McNabb, even when the guy is injured and performs as poorly as he frequently does. So when T.O. talks negatively about McNabb or the team, maybe he's speaking some truth that some people don't want to hear. The fans I personally know echo the same sentiments.

cheapie

11-11-2005, 06:48 AM

mcnabb is overrated because he's black

ialsohaveadream

11-11-2005, 07:21 AM

Uhhh, I think they were being facetious...

Would have been pretty cool though. :hihi:
:) They've had some other good ones before, but this one was great. It's like The Onion, but for sports...although now The Onion does sports too.

ialsohaveadream

11-11-2005, 07:24 AM

mcnabb is overrated because he's black
Actually, Rush said that the media wanted McNabb to succeed because he's black. Because we really need McNabb to prove that black quarterbacks can be successful....Doug Williams, Randall Cunningham, Daunte, Vick, Leftwich, these guys mean nothing. The media REALLY needs McNabb to be a winner.

cheapie

11-11-2005, 07:26 AM

i know. i was kidding.

ialsohaveadream

11-11-2005, 07:48 AM

i know. i was kidding.
I know you were. I just can't resist the chance to rip on Rush. :)

cheapie

11-11-2005, 07:58 AM

ialsohaveadream

11-11-2005, 08:14 AM

but to be fair...williams and cunningham weren't playing anymore and vick and leftwich were new and not proven yet. I think his statement about him being overrated was true. (when he said it mcnabb was sucking a bit. Taking oodles and oodles of sacks.) Not sure about the black part tho'.
Not sure about the black part? I'm pretty certain McNabb is black. ;)

Anyway, ESPN got what they wanted (controversy), Rush got what he wanted (a chance to play the victim), and FOX got what it wanted (better ratings). Everyone won!

MikeD

11-11-2005, 11:33 AM

Not sure about the black part? I'm pretty certain McNabb is black. ;)

Anyway, ESPN got what they wanted (controversy), Rush got what he wanted (a chance to play the victim), and FOX got what it wanted (better ratings). Everyone won!

Hmmm...

ESPN wins: :)
Rush wins: :)
FOX wins: :)

Yay all around!

cheapie

11-11-2005, 11:42 AM

how does fox win?

ialsohaveadream

11-11-2005, 11:42 AM

how does fox win?
FOX still ended up higher in the ratings (which is why ESPN hired Rush in the first place).

cheapie

11-11-2005, 11:44 AM

hmmm....guess i don't really see the connection.

guiseppewv

11-11-2005, 01:11 PM

Me neither. :shrug:

johnnymk

11-15-2005, 09:32 AM

Are Eagles' fans and the media ready to forget about Terrell Owens and concentrate on his former playmate, Donovan McNabb?

So far on Tuesday, the press hasn't been kind to McNabb after his unexplainable interception cost the Eagles a chance to get back in the NFC title picture.

McNabb missed his intended target, Reggie Brown, by 10 yards, helping Dallas erase a 13-point deficit in a matter of seconds. The play likely took the Eagles out of the 2005 playoff picture.

Here are the reviews on Tuesday morning:

"The Birds needed McNabb to be spectacular Monday. And the departure of Owens might have provided him with the personal and professional incentive to comply. Instead, he was off --- and the Eagles were not better. And more than ever, they are all alone and trying to figure out why." - Jack McCaffery, Delco Times

"Donovan McNabb went to his knees and buried his face in the grass. The pain from his groin injury and his game-turning interception were far worse than anything Terrell Owens could've done." - Rob Maadi, AP

"This was worse than any Terrell Owens controversy. This was the Eagles' Doomsday, and it had more to do with one of the worst passes of Donovan McNabb's career than it did with the Dallas Cowboys' defense."- Bob Brrokover, Philly.com

"McNabb threw an interception that just can't be thrown. With the game on the line and no receiver anywhere close, McNabb threw the football right to Williams." - Reuben Frank, PhillyBurbs.com

Reaction from NBC 10 viewers:

"McNabb STILL has not emerged as a true leader of this team. A changing of the guard is in order."

"McNabb selfishly lead the Eagles down this losing path by playing injured for weeks now. Why hasn't he been deactivated? Can the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl? Next question!!!!"

"Let's face it...TO was right about McNabb. I don't know what #5 is trying to prove, but he really needs to sit out the rest of the season and get well physically and mentally."

"Two weeks in a row (McNabb) he has passed the ball directly to the opposing team causing us to lose the games. Does he also have a vision problem in addition to the sports hernia thing."

speedracer120

11-15-2005, 09:36 AM

Yeah, McNabb while trying to diplomatic with everyone still has an innate selfishness that messes with his play.
I feel bad for the Eagles' fans. Going to school in Philly is oddly fun after the Eagles lose a game. I swear at least 75% of my classmates and my professor in the morning class look like they lost a dear and near family member. It took all I had not to bust out laughing.

ialsohaveadream

11-15-2005, 10:03 AM

SpikeDig

11-15-2005, 10:25 AM

what?

aren't they trampling on his first amendment rights?

FREE SPEECH! FREE SPEECH I SAY!

heh, just teasing

When T.O. mouths off on his own personal time & behind closed doors is just fine. But, when the media is ready to pounce on every little thing he says or does or doesn't do AND his teammates are adversely affected by it...then he must deal with the end result. Yeah, they're all grown men & professional football players. It still doesn't give him license to be stupid & mouth off.

Yes, he is awesome at what he does. But the NFL is still a team sport. Sit his ass out for the rest of the season. Suspend him w/out pay. Let him ride the pine on the sidelines. :woohoo:

Look at it this way. If T.O. were a high school football player acting as such, what would you do as coach, teammate, parent, etc? :thumbdown :shrug:

SpikeDig

11-15-2005, 10:32 AM

I do agree that the Eagles would be better off with McNabb on the bench. You can tell he's not his normal self. And he's not like Steve McNair, who understood his limits when he played with pain. McNabb is still trying to do things he can't physically do. I don't necessarily think Koy Detmer makes them a winner, but it's probably better to play him.

I don't think he is fessing up to how really injured he is. :dead:

Yeah, every professional athlete needs to go out there and PLAY, injured or not. It is the great ones that overcome that adversity & play as champions. Remember Mr. Concussion, Steve Young? Maybe not, he still went out there & put his life on the line with the risk of knocking out that skull once more irrevocably. Did you hear him complain, I don't think so.

However, I do like to hear players b**ch & whine from time to time. They add to the entertainment factor. Like Michael Irvin or Neon Deon Sanders. :naughty:

baggio248

11-23-2005, 12:41 PM

Good he got what he deserved. I hope he only gets to play in theArena League, CFL or NFL Europe. I hope no one ever signs him. Won't happen, but I can hope.

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Terrell Owens' season is effectively over after an arbitrator ruled Wednesday that the Philadelphia Eagles were justified in suspending him for four games.

Arbitrator Richard Bloch wrote that the Eagles clearly proved that the suspension was justified, and were within their right to pay their All-Pro receiver but not allow him to return "due to the nature of his conduct and its destructive and continuing threat to the team."
The Eagles released a one-paragraph statement thanking Bloch and saying Philadelphia is looking forward to "moving on with our preparations for Sunday's game vs. Green Bay and the rest of the 2005 season and will have no further comment on this issue."

Bloch heard more than 13 hours of testimony last week. Owens' side argued the penalty is excessive and the Eagles' decision to deactivate him is too severe. Owens wanted to be reinstated to the Eagles or released so he can sign with another team.

"We are pleased that the arbitrator has upheld the right of a club to suspend a player for conduct detrimental to the club," said Harold Henderson, the NFL's head of labor relations.

The players union said in a statement that it was disappointed with the decision, which it believes ignores the contract's limits on team discipline. "We are confident that we put in a winning case at the hearing last Friday," the statement said, "and we still believe Terrell Owens had a right to a legitimate reinstatement."

Owens was suspended Nov. 5 after he again criticized quarterback Donovan McNabb, called the organization "classless" and fought with former teammate Hugh Douglas, who serves as team "ambassador."

Two days later, the Eagles extended the suspension to four games and told Owens not to return. The reigning conference champions are 0-3 without Owens and 4-6 overall, last in the NFC East.

Owens has five years remaining on a seven-year, $48.97 million contract that he signed when he came to Philadelphia in March 2004. His problems started when he demanded a new contract after an outstanding season in which he caught 77 passes for 1,200 yards and 14 touchdowns, helping the Eagles reach the Super Bowl.

With Owens, the Eagles are 17-5 over two seasons. Without him, they're 2-5, including two meaningless losses and two playoff wins.

DarkFury

11-23-2005, 01:17 PM

Oh well... now T.O. can sit back relax, enjoy his FREE paycheck coming in for the rest of the season and watch the games on Sunday.

Sucks to be him... I suppose. :heh:

MikeD

11-23-2005, 01:26 PM

Good he got what he deserved. I hope he only gets to play in theArena League, CFL or NFL Europe. I hope no one ever signs him. Won't happen, but I can hope.

:agree:

Yeah, we all know he's a moron. Guess the arbitrator thought so too...

He'll get paid, but he just cost himself big time $$$ by acting the way he has. He'll never seen the contract he already had, much less get a better one.

Must feel good to throw away millions of dollars, but hey...that's T.O.! :D

bachviet

11-23-2005, 05:51 PM

T.O. deserves whatever the Eagles dished out.

VTGreg

11-24-2005, 05:16 AM

Oh well... now T.O. can sit back relax, enjoy his FREE paycheck coming in for the rest of the season and watch the games on Sunday.

Sucks to be him... I suppose. :heh:

He'll a few free paychecks for the rest of the season, but he will lose a lot of money in the long run because of this. I'm sure someone will take a chance on him next season. However, he will not get a contract anywhere near the contract he is currently under.

The Eagles stand to lose a little because TO is virtually untradeable now since no one will be willing to pay him according to his current contract. I'm just glad that the arbitrator didn't handcuff the right of an NFL organization.

Immediately after the decision came out, the head of the NFLPA said that the arbitrator would no longer be used in arbitration decisions for the NFL.

johnnymk

11-24-2005, 05:35 AM

The Eagles won the battle but lost the war.

Oh well, Philadelphia's favorite motto: "There's always next season."

DarkFury

11-24-2005, 10:00 AM

He'll a few free paychecks for the rest of the season, but he will lose a lot of money in the long run because of this. I'm sure someone will take a chance on him next season. However, he will not get a contract anywhere near the contract he is currently under.

The Eagles stand to lose a little because TO is virtually untradeable now since no one will be willing to pay him according to his current contract. I'm just glad that the arbitrator didn't handcuff the right of an NFL organization.

Immediately after the decision came out, the head of the NFLPA said that the arbitrator would no longer be used in arbitration decisions for the NFL.
Either way... he'll still end up making his money somewhere.. Don't think that he's just gonna go away that easy.

Just the other day, I saw that he is now gonna be doing some "color commentary" for a NFL sports show.... and yeah that doesn't make up for the salary loss from the Eagles, but it will keep him somewhat in the public eye.

Still, I don't think his "goods" are damaged to the point where another team wont take a shot on him. Hell, lesser players have mouthed off like him and still were kept around for a few years ... however as long as he can prove that he can deliver the goods on the field, then there will be someone who will take the chance. That's the greed that is professional sports.

Now if he loses all of his field ability in his time off (highly doubtable) then that will damage everything and nulls and voids what I am saying above.

MikeD

11-24-2005, 10:34 AM

Immediately after the decision came out, the head of the NFLPA said that the arbitrator would no longer be used in arbitration decisions for the NFL.

And don't think he didn't know that was coming. Shows some real integrity on his part, because he made the right decision knowing that it more than likely meant losing a pretty cushy job.

Also shows a corresponding lack of integrity and class on the side of the PA. Lose a case that they justifiably should not have won, and they choose to fire the guy. :disa:

A bit of reading for your pleasure. :ptlaugh: Looks like T.O. is out a cool $10,000,000. Link below...

Owens hired Rosenhaus for one reason. To get the receiver more money than the money to which Owens already was entitled.

In case you're keeping track, it hasn't happened. And it likely never will.

When the suspension was first imposed, we calculated the potential financial fallout. With the four-game unpaid sit upheld, Owens now faces a monetary deficit of nearly eight figures.

First, the suspension costs $764,705.

Second, if/when the team demands repayment of bonus money, Owens will cough up another $1.725 million in earned income.

Third, there's no way that Owens will ever see bonus money of $7.5 million in March 2006.

So the total cost is $9,989,705.

This means that Owens will need to get at least $9.989 million in hand to break even.

It surely won't happen in 2006. Owens will need a year of purgatory before he'll even have a chance at that kind of money. Thanks to guys like Daryl Gardener, who put in a solid season with the 'Skins under similar circumstances before turning turd again after getting paid by the Broncos, teams will still be leery of Owens -- even if he's the league MVP next season.

So Rosenhaus has failed on this one. Miserably. In fact, the best thing he could do for Owens at this point is to step forward and accept blame for the entire affair, saying that it was his idea and that Owens merely went along for the ride. Rosenhaus also should recommend that Owens publicly apologize to everyone for his conduct, and that Owens should admit that he acted the way he did simply because he wanted to get more money from the team.

Rosenhaus also should, in our view, step aside from the representation and hand Owens over to another agent (assuming that another agent will take him on).

If they both apologize and if Rosenhaus stands down, it might prompt teams to conclude that Owens and Rosenhaus are displaying the level of contrition necessary to repair both of their images in the eyes of the folks who give out the money.

Then again, the same mental defect that prompted Owens to testify at the arbitration hearing that he wasn't referring to Donovan McNabb when he said "I wasn't the one who got tired at the Super Bowl" will also prevent T.O. from recognizing the connection between a very public display of remorse and his ability to begin to climb out from the bottom of that $10 million hole in which he now resides.

Our guess is that, barring a complete personality overhaul, Owens will instead find a way to keep digging deeper.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Merlin

11-24-2005, 03:09 PM

Either way... he'll still end up making his money somewhere.. Don't think that he's just gonna go away that easy.

Just the other day, I saw that he is now gonna be doing some "color commentary" for a NFL sports show.... and yeah that doesn't make up for the salary loss from the Eagles, but it will keep him somewhat in the public eye.

Still, I don't think his "goods" are damaged to the point where another team wont take a shot on him. Hell, lesser players have mouthed off like him and still were kept around for a few years ... however as long as he can prove that he can deliver the goods on the field, then there will be someone who will take the chance. That's the greed that is professional sports.

Now if he loses all of his field ability in his time off (highly doubtable) then that will damage everything and nulls and voids what I am saying above.
I agree that other teamsout there would be willing to take a chance on him but I really doubt folks will be willing togive him anywhere near what he is getting now. He now falls into the category of a guy you take a chance on if you can get a discount.

The only way I see him getting paid anywhere near where he wants is to take a heavily performance based contract.