It was just a matter of time before Jesse Jackson resurfaces again..

[sizemic1]

This time over....none other than, Terrell Owens. :disa: :rolleyes:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/11/13/owens.jackson.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

[Dave_7]

Yep... incredibly, though, not once did he mention race. Weird. T.O. will continue to behave this way until someone actually backhand-slaps his a$$ (like the Eagles did) and really sticks to their guns about it.

Direct quote from the Eagles to T.O., "F us? F YOU."



Dave.

[cheapie]

if this isn't proof he's an attn whore then i don't know what is. hey lookee....a spotlight over there. pardon me, can i get in also?

[nickel]

Yep... incredibly, though, not once did he mention race. Weird. T.O. will continue to behave this way until someone actually backhand-slaps his a$$ (like the Eagles did) and really sticks to their guns about it.

Direct quote from the Eagles to T.O., "F us? F YOU."



Dave.
he doesn't have to mention it. he just has to show up.

[Dave_7]

he doesn't have to mention it. he just has to show up.
Ha!


Dave.

[Itsme]

Next step for Jesse...he will blackmail the Eagles...requiring them to pay money to one of his "charities".

[cheapie]

to his credit, he hasn't busted out the race card....yet.

i'm not sure if i agree that they should release him or not. i think they have every right to punish him for the four games. however, jesse is saying that he's missing some of his prime earning years. well...he's still earning. a lot.

but he is missing the opportunity to showcase his skills to get the max when he goes to another team. however, there might be cap implications if the eagles wave him right now. i don't know if this is the case or not though.

[DarkFury]

if this isn't proof he's an attn whore then i don't know what is. hey lookee....a spotlight over there. pardon me, can i get in also?
He didn't say anything different than what I said in the T.O. thread of this topic...

However they media follows him when he says the same things that the common man says... Why not blame the media this time?

Isn't it just ironic who the media always runs to to get its opinions from? I don't think its a coincidence. :shrug:

Now.. how long before the "Sharpton" thread on T.O. gets posted. :heh: Tjime to place your bets... :kaching:

[DarkFury]

he doesn't have to mention it. he just has to show up.
I guess I know how he feels...

BTW... that's called "bias" based on who you are and not what you say.. and yeah alot of folks are guilty of it. :D

[cheapie]

He didn't say anything different than what I said in the T.O. thread of this topic...

However they media follows him when he says the same things that the common man says... Why not blame the media this time?

Isn't it just ironic who the media always runs to to get its opinions from? I don't think its a coincidence. :shrug:

Now.. how long before the "Sharpton" thread on T.O. gets posted. :heh: Tjime to place your bets... :kaching:


wtf are you talking about? same thing the common man says? yeah. TO really has the backing of the common man. we're all worried about his ability to feed his family. stick it to the man baby.

media follows him? jackson called TO, talked to him about the situation, and released a statement thereby INSERTING himself in the spotlight. you don't have to try very hard to get opinions from someone when they issue a ****ing press release.

the sharpton thread will be posted when he does the same jackson does.

i don't think it's a coincidence either.....that in your haste to support your boy jackson, you do so by slinging accusations w/o a whit of merit.

until you can see past color, i'm afraid....


http://www.littleboyinc.com/uploader2/files/hrm/gauge1.jpg

[cheapie]

He didn't say anything different than what I said in the T.O. thread of this topic...

However they media follows him when he says the same things that the common man says.


the common man? ha!

http://www.littleboyinc.com/uploader2/files/hrm/survey.jpg

[MikeD]

BTW... that's called "bias" based on who you are and not what you say.. and yeah alot of folks are guilty of it. :D

To quote Grimm...

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[DarkFury]

wtf are you talking about? same thing the common man says? yeah. TO really has the backing of the common man. we're all worried about his ability to feed his family. stick it to the man baby.

media follows him? jackson called TO, talked to him about the situation, and released a statement thereby INSERTING himself in the spotlight. you don't have to try very hard to get opinions from someone when they issue a ****ing press release.

the sharpton thread will be posted when he does the same jackson does.

i don't think it's a coincidence either.....that in your haste to support your boy jackson, you do so by slinging accusations w/o a whit of merit.

until you can see past color, i'm afraid....


http://www.littleboyinc.com/uploader2/files/hrm/gauge1.jpg

Oh I forgot... only people who agree with Cheapie are "common men".

Go back and read the T.O. thread I was talkin about... I personally said almost the same thing that Jessie said without looking for "attention". Yeah... the general public (such as yourself) really has their panties in a wad over this... and nobody who says "Well.. maybe it is kinda unfair" is being listened to over all of your ranting and screaming..

Oh well... whatever... It really ain't that important to me... I was just pointing out that Jessie this time didn't say anything that someone else hasn't already said... only that the MEDIA chose to print his words....


And WHY are you bringing color into this... NOBODY has said a word about color... not even Jessie this time.... yet it is naturally assumed on your part. Talk about laying some bait out there to argue a "non point".

Just because Jackson essentially said the SAME thing I said a couple of days ago... there you go saying "I support Jackson and such" (it may be a coincidence, or maybe... just MAYBE we are seeing it from a similar perspective. And I know how that gets you and people who shares your views all "hot under the collar" and such.)... honestly Cheapie, you need to stop going there cause every time you point the finger at me, four point back at you.

[DarkFury]

To quote Grimm...

Pot. Kettle. Black.
You also are guilty of this... thanks for speaking up though. :D

[MikeD]

You also are guilty of this... thanks for speaking up though. :D

Hey, no problem. Thanks for agreeing. :hihi:

[cheapie]

Oh I forgot... only people who agree with Cheapie are "common men".

Go back and read the T.O. thread I was talkin about... I personally said almost the same thing that Jessie said without looking for "attention". Yeah... the general public (such as yourself) really has their panties in a wad over this... and nobody who says "Well.. maybe it is kinda unfair" is being listened to over all of your ranting and screaming..

Oh well... whatever... It really ain't that important to me... I was just pointing out that Jessie this time didn't say anything that someone else hasn't already said... only that the MEDIA chose to print his words....

what? i DID NOT say anyone that says TO's punishment was too harsh is looking for attention. what's your point? the difference between your statements and jackson's is that you didn't issue a press release in an attempt to bring attention to yourself.

and my ire is directed at you for once again jumping to jackson's defense by being dishonest and stating that he just stated his opinion to people that came asking for it. that's complete and utter nonsense and you'd realize it if you had'nt annointed yourself jackson's public defender.

and the common man comment makes no sense. in fact, the survey from cnn shows that it's YOU that has defined the definition of the common man as being in agreement with your sentiments.

[DarkFury]

Hey, no problem. Thanks for agreeing. :hihi:
Sure thing... kettle boy. :D

[DarkFury]

Accidental double post...

Please delete this one GAM. Thanks.

[DarkFury]

what? i DID NOT say anyone that says TO's punishment was too harsh is looking for attention. what's your point? the difference between your statements and jackson's is that you didn't issue a press release in an attempt to bring attention to yourself.

and my ire is directed at you for once again jumping to jackson's defense by being dishonest and stating that he just stated his opinion to people that came asking for it. that's complete and utter nonsense and you'd realize it if you had'nt annointed yourself jackson's public defender.

and the common man comment makes no sense. in fact, the survey from cnn shows that it's YOU that has defined the definition of the common man as being in agreement with your sentiments.
My point was... the MEDIA eats up Jackson's words... end of statement.

If the media didn't listen to him, I'd seriously doubt it would have made the news.

That in it itself is an "end of statement".... Nobody has to defend what Jessie says.... those are his statements and some of them reflect what others have already said. :shrug:

My IRE at you is that you can't tell the difference between defending Jackson's right to speak and actually having said the same thing in a lesser public venue. Stop trying to make me Jessie's "knight in shining armor"... unless you just LIKE being "the dragon". :heh:

Probably because you don't wanna hear it has something to do as to why you don't understand...

Where was your GRIPING when Ralph Nader said essentially the same thing? Or is it... only Jessie can't say anything? :hmm:

[MikeD]

Sure thing... kettle boy. :D

Ahhh, name calling now? I should have expected it...especially when it comes to a topic of race. If it's black, you sure come runnin' fast bro...

I guess it's best to resort to stuff like that when you just had your...aww, forget it. :hihi:

[DarkFury]

Ahhh, name calling now? I should have expected it...especially when it comes to a topic of race. If it's black, you sure come runnin' fast bro...

I guess it's best to resort to stuff like that when you just had your...aww, forget it. :hihi:
I only respond if the topics interest me... and most of the other ones don't.

I'm sure you'll find alot of "non black" threads that do though... BTW.. we not talkin' race here... we talkin' T.O. and NFL contracts. Please discern the difference. Nobody yet has played a "race card" although your words above are do seem like you toe the line.

BTW... once again, you are a victim of your own statements, cause as soon as I say anything, you also seem to sure come a'runnin' to hand us your 2 cents in opposition. Hence the kettle and the pot.

Like the fire? It's warm ain't it? :D

[MikeD]

If the media didn't listen to him, I'd seriously doubt it would have made the news.

So the media should stop listening to Jesse? He's only one of the (arguably) biggest leaders of the black populice. I'd say there would be a whole bunch of folks (you probably included) who "have their panties in a wad" if the media didn't listen to him.

So which is it? Listen to him or not?

BTW, the CNN poll is an argument killer. The general population is not behind T.O. or Jesse on this one, and it's not even close.

[cheapie]

holy crap. i give up. it's no fun debating with someone that refuses to defend his statements, never acknowledge flaws in his argument, and changes what he "meant" when exposed.

grimm was right.

[DarkFury]

So the media should stop listening to Jesse? He's only one of the (arguably) biggest leaders of the black populice. I'd say there would be a whole bunch of folks (you probably included) who "have their panties in a wad" if the media didn't listen to him.

So which is it? Listen to him or not?

BTW, the CNN poll is an argument killer. The general population is not behind T.O. or Jesse on this one, and it's not even close.
Of course they won't stop listening to Jessie... he sells and as far as the Media is concerned they eat it up (to you and Cheapie's dismay).

Jessie is not MY leader... I don't bow down to him nor do I pay him a special fee to represent me. I don't necessarily agree with EVERYTHING he says but I do agree with some things and in the current issue, he spoke along the lines of how I was thinking (without me using his words as motivation for what I was saying.)

My panties ain't in any wads here over this issue... cause honesty I resolved long ago that it really doesn't matter what many of us say anyways... most of us don't control the system and all we can do is agree or disagree as far as changing it. Therefore, Mr. Jackson has a higher platform that obviously SOMEONE is hearing/listening to and that platform gets much attention... still it doesn't mean that he's always right but that also doesn't mean that he's always wrong. What it means is that he is opinionated and has the opportunity to voice that opinion to a much wider audience.

Honestly, I can speak for myself... I don't need Jessie to "lead" me. But thanks for offering that as your opinion. :D And from my perspective, my boxer briefs are sitting quite alright on the issue...

[DarkFury]

holy crap. i give up. it's no fun debating with someone that refuses to defend his statements, never acknowledge flaws in his argument, and changes what he "meant" when exposed.

grimm was right.
Pffffft..... :pfft:

Whatever mang.... buh bye. :wavey:

I am not a defendant in your "court of public opinion".

[MikeD]

I only respond if the topics interest me... and most of the other ones don't.
I'm sure you'll find alot of "non black" threads that do though...

Never said you didn't. Hell, with 25,000+ posts you must talk about other things.


BTW.. we not talkin' race here... we talkin' T.O. and NFL contracts. Please discern the difference. Nobody yet has played a "race card" although your words above are do seem like you toe the line.

Ahh, good ol' DF spin. If there is a thread with Jesse or Al, you're sure to be there baby. That's not me bringing it up, that's knowing that you'll be running to defend. Got any race cards left, or are they all played yet? (Nice try though).


BTW... once again, you are a victim of your own statements, cause as soon as I say anything, you also seem to sure come a'runnin' to hand us your 2 cents in opposition. Hence the kettle and the pot.

Yup, I respond to all of your posts. How could I forget? :)


Like the fire? It's warm ain't it? :D

:lmfao:

Truly hilarious. You just don't see the light. Guess I thought you were a bit smarter than you are...:hihi:

[DarkFury]

Never said you didn't. Hell, with 25,000+ posts you must talk about other things.
yup... wow we agreed again.




Ahh, good ol' DF spin. If there is a thread with Jesse or Al, you're sure to be there baby. That's not me bringing it up, that's knowing that you'll be running to defend. Got any race cards left, or are they all played yet? (Nice try though).
And yet I expect to see You and Cheapie there as well... call it a party huh? :heh:

I don't need any race cards... you've already stacked your deck with them.




Yup, I respond to all of your posts. How could I forget? :)
Of course you do... it's like having my own personal political/race issue shadow.



:lmfao:

Truly hilarious. You just don't see the light. Guess I thought you were a bit smarter than you are...:hihi:
Oh I see the light... and I know how hot the fire gets anytime I post in a thread... yet, I can always count on you to "share the warmth"... and Oh.. you are SOOOO GOOOD at doing that. :D

Honestly Mike... according to yourself, nobody can be "smarter than you". :D

[MikeD]

yup... wow we agreed again.

:faint:


And yet I expect to see You and Cheapie there as well... call it a party huh? :heh:

Nah bro, don't party with folks like you. But I'll send my wishes...:)


I don't need any race cards... you've already stacked your deck with them.

I don't need to stack the deck. I don't need crutches to lean on, either...


Of course you do... it's like having my own personal political/race issue shadow.

I could hide in your shadow. :hehehmm:


Oh I see the light... and I know how hot the fire gets anytime I post in a thread... yet, I can always count on you to "share the warmth"... and Oh.. you are SOOOO GOOOD at doing that.

You got a pretty inflated opinion of yourself there...hey, just like T.O.! I guess the similarities aren't limited to just a few things. :D


Honestly Mike... according to yourself, nobody can be "smarter than you".

Glad you feel that way. :king: Now don't forget it...

[DarkFury]

Oh well... next issue please... :D

[cheapie]

here's a word of advice df. if you want to be understood, respected, etc...try and limit the use of hyperbole and self-pity.

i.e.: you're wrong because of X. your statement is incorrect because of X. your claim is wrong for X reasons.

but you never do. you make a statement, like your claim that jackson was simply asked his opinion and the forthcoming answer got our collective panties in a wad in spite of it being in line with the common man.

when show that not only was your version of events innacurate, but that the common man's view does not support TO you refused to acknowledge or refute my rebuttal. you instead went to whining mode and set off the smoke screen.

answer me this: did the media seek out jackson to get his opinion or did jackson initiate the process by contacting owens and issuing a press release intended to publicize his views?

does the common man really believe that owens has been mistreated?

if you can't defend your first statements, then why haven't you retracted them or written a rebuttal to my challenge?

and yeah...i'm still discussing this w/you in spite of my earlier comments. :heh:

[cheapie]

Oh well... next issue please... :D



Whatever mang.... buh bye. :wavey:


:lmfao:

[DarkFury]

Cheapie... does Jessie have to ask you first before he makes a press release?

Weren't you the one speaking "Free speech this.. and free speech that..." a few topics ago..

From what I saw... IN THE CAPTION it said that he had talked to T.O. Nowhere else did I see where this was some kind of "media/press attention setup" on Jackson's part. You are basing your entire arguement with me on that one sentence... versus the issue at hand...

You automatically say that Jackson is just seeking attention for himself no matter what he is saying. This time, he speaks out on his thoughts of T.O. and what he thinks is right and wrong about it. He concurs that T.O. said things that could be more "professionally handled" yet he states that the team should not be holding his right to make a living out of spite...

How is this a big problem? Is it a problem just because his voice is heard by the media? Why must you call on me to defend that? He by the same rights of free speech that you touted in previous threads has the right to do so he... and yet you condemn him for it. Did you condemn Ralph Nader as well? /me looks... umm nope. So you are being a hypocrite if you condemn Jackson for it.

All I'm am STILL saying is... if the media wasn't all up Jackson's butt waiting for a sound bite to make a story then this probably wouldn't have even gotten a minor mention... notice they didn't really harp on Nader either (as he only gets a sidebar mention).

So what gives... why are the rules of speech diffferent when Jackson is involved?

BTW.... please stop trying to pick apart my "common man" analogy. I'll explain to you what I meant by it instead of you trying to figure out (wrongly) what I was trying to say. I, as a "common person" (and not representing anyone but myself) made a similar statement than Jackson made... therefore his words are nothing special here. He may have chosen to speak to the media of his opinion, yet, the media was definitely there to listen to him. I bet I could call the media and "release a statement" and they would look at me like "WTF"?

Either way... what is your issue here? You make it seem that Jackson is doing something wrong here or something... and you definitely are looking for a reason to condemn him this time as well as every other time his name comes up.... yet you won't ever see the "counter view" to this. I'm not even asking you to agree with what he says... but you would rather he not be allowed to speak I suppose. And that is hypocritical...

You always want to see a Black and White issue... and this is neither. T.O did wrong... the team did wrong. They don't want him to work for them but yet they dont' want him to work for anyone else either. To me... THAT IS WRONG!!!! You may disagree and that is your right, but hey.. those are our opinions of the issue.

Now why do you have a problem with me or Jessie saying that? Or are you so blind in your Jackson/Sharpton hate that you can't even see what I'm trying to tell you? I feel no need to defend what I see is a unfounded accusation...

[ialsohaveadream]

i.e.: you're wrong because of X. your statement is incorrect because of X. your claim is wrong for X reasons.
Yes, but don't do that in the political forum, or the conservatives will claim that you're baselessly attacking them. ;)

[LegendKiller]

For Press Release on Monday at 8:13AM.



LegendKiller believes that Terrel Owens was too harshely punished.

It is now a well known fact that Garcia is in fact Mr. Happy Meal (ie gay), that Donovan McNabb does in fact suck, that the Eagles do in fact fail at everything they do, and that TO's big fat moronic mouth cannont control itself, but he is the savior of all teams (except his own), for reasons we will state soon enough.

It is also a well known fact that Jesse Jackson just had to help out TO, because you know, he is the guiding light of a moral, just, and harmonious life with everybody around him. He in fact shares many attributes with TO, including attention whoring, dillusions of grandeur, and the feeling that they are the mouthpiece of all of the poor souls who are barely able to keep food on the table, including Latrell Sprewell.

Finally, LegendKiller believes that TO deserved a pay raise. He is, indeed, the best team ruining WR in the NFL. For that fact, he deserves to get paid more by every other team in the NFL because they owe him for making the 49'ers and Eagles disintegrate into lockeroom brawling and embarassing QB smashing tirades.


Thank you, you may go back to your cheerios.

[cheapie]

Cheapie... does Jessie have to ask you first before he makes a press release?

Weren't you the one speaking "Free speech this.. and free speech that..." a few topics ago..


of course not. but he can't act like a moth every time there's a spotlight and avoid having people call him out on it.

and what does free speech have to do with the issue? nobody is suggesting he shouldn't be allowed to speak. but good luck with the strawman.



From what I saw... IN THE CAPTION it said that he had talked to T.O. Nowhere else did I see where this was some kind of "media/press attention setup" on Jackson's part. You are basing your entire arguement with me on that one sentence... versus the issue at hand...


well maybe you should do a little reading on the subject before you start posting. nearly every article on the subject mentions the release jackson put out after calling owens.



You automatically say that Jackson is just seeking attention for himself no matter what he is saying. This time, he speaks out on his thoughts of T.O. and what he thinks is right and wrong about it. He concurs that T.O. said things that could be more "professionally handled" yet he states that the team should not be holding his right to make a living out of spite...


he's a preacher. a political activist. someone who claims to be fighting for racial equality. wtf is he doing getting involved in a contract dispute between a football player and a team? owens has an agent and a union rep fighting on his behalf.


How is this a big problem? Is it a problem just because his voice is heard by the media? Why must you call on me to defend that? He by the same rights of free speech that you touted in previous threads has the right to do so he... and yet you condemn him for it. Did you condemn Ralph Nader as well? /me looks... umm nope. So you are being a hypocrite if you condemn Jackson for it.


lol. call on you to defend it? you've pinned the tin star on yourself buddy. i'm not being a hypocrite because i do think nader was speaking out for attention. of course, nader is the founder of League of Fans. so he's already involved in the industry and has additional motives in addition to wanting to get his name in the paper.




All I'm am STILL saying is... if the media wasn't all up Jackson's butt waiting for a sound bite to make a story then this probably wouldn't have even gotten a minor mention... notice they didn't really harp on Nader either (as he only gets a sidebar mention).


who the heck cares if it got attention. the fact is that once again jackson saw a spotlight and fired up the attn-whore-mobile and inserted himself in it.



So what gives... why are the rules of speech diffferent when Jackson is involved?

again....they aren't. but being guaranteed free speech doesn't mean i don't get to call you retarded when you act like it.

don't wave the free speech banner here. this guy isn't tackling racism, poverty, voter fraud, etc. he's inserted himself into a situation that has no social relevance whatsoever to you or i and wants us to take him seriously, like he's fighting some sort of grave injustice for the good of society.



BTW.... please stop trying to pick apart my "common man" analogy. I'll explain to you what I meant by it instead of you trying to figure out (wrongly) what I was trying to say. I, as a "common person" (and not representing anyone but myself) made a similar statement than Jackson made... therefore his words are nothing special here. He may have chosen to speak to the media of his opinion, yet, the media was definitely there to listen to him. I bet I could call the media and "release a statement" and they would look at me like "WTF"?

how does media's lack of interest in your opinion make his actions any less attn-whorey? connect the dots for me please.



Either way... what is your issue here? You make it seem that Jackson is doing something wrong here or something... and you definitely are looking for a reason to condemn him this time as well as every other time his name comes up.... yet you won't ever see the "counter view" to this. I'm not even asking you to agree with what he says... but you would rather he not be allowed to speak I suppose. And that is hypocritical...


i happen to agree with him to a certain extent. but i'm not concerned with the content of his message. he just has no legitimate interest in this situation other than seeing his name on the marquee....again.



You always want to see a Black and White issue... and this is neither. T.O did wrong... the team did wrong. They don't want him to work for them but yet they dont' want him to work for anyone else either. To me... THAT IS WRONG!!!! You may disagree and that is your right, but hey.. those are our opinions of the issue.

Now why do you have a problem with me or Jessie saying that? Or are you so blind in your Jackson/Sharpton hate that you can't even see what I'm trying to tell you? I feel no need to defend what I see is a unfounded accusation...


ha! point to one black celebrity that has been ragged on here that you haven't busted out the :2far: on the posters ragging on him.

i think stupid people are stupid regardless of their color. you have a tendancy to give them a pass if they are black. cept omarosa. you thought she was as much of a loser as i did. :heh:

[LPMiller]

man you guys spend a lot of time arguing about nothing.

[nickel]

man you guys spend a lot of time arguing about nothing.
because it's not nothing to them. :shrug:

[nickel]

I guess I know how he feels...

BTW... that's called "bias" based on who you are and not what you say.. and yeah alot of folks are guilty of it. :D
honestly, i don't think Jesse would be coming out to defend a white player like this, would he?

like i implied, he doesn't have to even say it, it's already there.

[cheapie]

man you guys spend a lot of time arguing about nothing.



Whatever mang.... buh bye. :wavey:



:hihi:

[DarkFury]

man you guys spend a lot of time arguing about nothing.
Honestly, I really wasn't even trying this time... but hell, getting tag teamed into it.. whatchu gonna do when folk are in constant "attack mode" on these issues? :shrug:

[DarkFury]

honestly, i don't think Jesse would be coming out to defend a white player like this, would he?

like i implied, he doesn't have to even say it, it's already there.
he came out to defend that one "white lady" who was on the feeding tube didn't he? :heh:

[DarkFury]

of course not. but he can't act like a moth every time there's a spotlight and avoid having people call him out on it.

and what does free speech have to do with the issue? nobody is suggesting he shouldn't be allowed to speak. but good luck with the strawman.



well maybe you should do a little reading on the subject before you start posting. nearly every article on the subject mentions the release jackson put out after calling owens.



he's a preacher. a political activist. someone who claims to be fighting for racial equality. wtf is he doing getting involved in a contract dispute between a football player and a team? owens has an agent and a union rep fighting on his behalf.



lol. call on you to defend it? you've pinned the tin star on yourself buddy. i'm not being a hypocrite because i do think nader was speaking out for attention. of course, nader is the founder of League of Fans. so he's already involved in the industry and has additional motives in addition to wanting to get his name in the paper.




who the heck cares if it got attention. the fact is that once again jackson saw a spotlight and fired up the attn-whore-mobile and inserted himself in it.



again....they aren't. but being guaranteed free speech doesn't mean i don't get to call you retarded when you act like it.

don't wave the free speech banner here. this guy isn't tackling racism, poverty, voter fraud, etc. he's inserted himself into a situation that has no social relevance whatsoever to you or i and wants us to take him seriously, like he's fighting some sort of grave injustice for the good of society.



how does media's lack of interest in your opinion make his actions any less attn-whorey? connect the dots for me please.



i happen to agree with him to a certain extent. but i'm not concerned with the content of his message. he just has no legitimate interest in this situation other than seeing his name on the marquee....again.




ha! point to one black celebrity that has been ragged on here that you haven't busted out the :2far: on the posters ragging on him.

i think stupid people are stupid regardless of their color. you have a tendancy to give them a pass if they are black. cept omarosa. you thought she was as much of a loser as i did. :heh:

Man I just don't have the energy to respond to all of that... i have thoughts on each point.. but honestly, you make me too tired to even respond.

Whatever mang... go with whatever you think and I'll do the same... sheesh. :2far:

[eSDee]

Gahdamnit how predictable is this thread :2far: The same old crap every time. You guys aren't even arguing the point anymore, just old stuff. I don't understand why you guys make such a big deal about Jessie Jackson showing up in cases like this. Guess what everyone? That's what Jackson does. As a powerful and respected person in the Black community, he is expected to come to the aid other folks in the Black community. No matter what Terrel Owens nor his dirtbag agent have to say is going to fall upon any sympathetic ears. And Jessie Jackson's are probably going to have a hard time finding some also, howerver he is stating a point of view that a lot of people share, and putting some power to it. Why? Because as a leader that is what he is supposed to do.

Accept that point, and then simple questions like "why is he there?" will stop getting in the way of the point you are trying to argue. If you can look that far that is :2far:

I doubt that anything can keep this thread from continuing down the tubes. My recommendation would be for the GAM to lock it.