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nickel
11-15-2005, 05:43 AM
Tuesday, November 15, 2005
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GOLDEN, Colo. — A woman who authorities said had sex with high school boys during alcohol- and drug-fueled parties has been sentenced to 30 years in prison, officials said.

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Nov. 14: Silvia Johnson, 41, left, is seen during her sentencing
in Jefferson County Court in Golden, Colo.

Silvia Johnson, 41, of Arvada, described herself to investigators as a "cool mom" who "was never popular with classmates in high school" and who was beginning to feel like one of the group.

She pleaded guilty in July to two misdemeanor counts of sexual assault and nine felony counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

She also was sentenced for additional charges of third-degree assault, violation of a restraining order and harassment for unrelated cases involving her husband and children, prosecution spokesman Carl Blesch said.

Authorities said Johnson held parties for the boys almost weekly between October 2003 and October 2004. They said Johnson provided drugs and alcohol to eight boys and had sex with five of them.

Johnson was to be sentenced on Sept. 26, but the hearing was postponed after she was injured the day before while riding in an SUV that veered off an interstate.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175581,00.html

i feel bad for her family. :(

DarkFury
11-15-2005, 06:39 AM
Dayuuum... she'll be on Social Security before she gets out. :eek:

angl2b
11-15-2005, 06:43 AM
I feel sorry for her - that she had such low self esteem to resort to all of that to fit in with children/teens. As an adult she should know better. I feel bad for her family - but I think they are better off without her - this must be such a burden on them and the shame they must feel. I feel more sorry for the parents of the children/teens she did this to - the children/teens might not be affected as much but the parents I am sure are.

kgsilvas
11-15-2005, 08:20 AM
When I first heard about the arrest and followed it on Smoking Gun, I thought she was an idiot. Now I feel sorry for her, she got 30 years in prison! Jeepers, there are folks that KILL people that get far less than that. What she did was wrong, no doubt. Seems like her bad judgement and low self esteem might get her a short term in prison and a whole bunch of mental help.

esme
11-15-2005, 09:04 AM
i don't feel sorry for her. for her family, yes, but not for her. she knew what she was doing was wrong ....when you know you're doing something wrong you know that you'll have to pay for it sooner or later. that's like raping 5 kids ....even if those boys were "ok" w/it .....if you go up to a boy and tell him that you want to sleep with 'em they won't say no ....SHE KNEW BETTER!

i do agree that there are people out there far worse and get less time, which sucks!

cheapie
11-15-2005, 09:19 AM
30 years??? :2far:

nickel
11-15-2005, 09:20 AM
30 years??? :2far:
not enough money for a good lawyer it would appear.

mcs328
11-15-2005, 09:26 AM
Hmm....30 years seems awfully long but she did rape 5 kids and provided them with alcohol and drugs. I would send a drug dealer that long if he/she provided drugs to 5 kids in a span of a year that was done in a hotel or on the street. She also had additional violations don't forget. Just because she hosted a party doesn't make the offense any less serious right?

cheapie
11-15-2005, 09:30 AM
i guess i feel kinda sorry for her. but i don't think i would feel the same if it was a dude having sex w/girls.

why is that?

johnnymk
11-15-2005, 11:38 AM
Wow, she looks a lot older than 41. I can't imagine a young kid wanting to have sex with her. She is so "Not Hot"

ialsohaveadream
11-15-2005, 11:53 AM
i guess i feel kinda sorry for her. but i don't think i would feel the same if it was a dude having sex w/girls.

why is that?
Not sure, but I'm with you. 30 years seems harsh, but I'm thinking that if it was a 40 year old guy nailing a bunch of 15 or 16 year old girls, I'd be more inclined to say a lengthy jail sentence was appropriate. Although in either case, I'm thinking 30 years seems a bit extreme.

ialsohaveadream
11-15-2005, 11:54 AM
Wow, she looks a lot older than 41. I can't imagine a young kid wanting to have sex with her. She is so "Not Hot"
"When you've never eaten, everything looks delicious."

Grimm
11-15-2005, 12:08 PM
If it was a man who did this to girls people would be screaming "Only 30 years!?!? Cut his unit off and lock him up forever!!!".

Airencracken
11-15-2005, 12:19 PM
:stupid:

Yet another representation of the sexism that is rampant in our society.

cheapie
11-15-2005, 12:21 PM
or the fact that we're more protective of our girls than our boys.

Airencracken
11-15-2005, 12:23 PM
which would be sexism, being more protective of girls suggests that they cannot protect themselves. Thus they are inferior.

sexism

({sm}s{ope}ks{shti}z({schwa})m) [f. SEX n. + -ISM, after RACISM

The assumption that one sex is superior to the other and the resultant discrimination practised against members of the supposed inferior sex, esp. by men against women; also conformity with the traditional stereotyping of social roles on the basis of sex.
1968 C. BIRD in Vital Speeches (U.S.) 15 Nov. 90 Sexism is judging people by their sex where sex doesn't matter. 1968 S. VANAUKEN Freedom for Movement Girls{em}Now 7 The parallels between sexism and racism are sharp and clear. Each embodies false assumption in a myth. 1971 Guardian 15 Jan. 11/4 The concept of a ‘woman's page’..perpetuates sexism by stressing the ‘special’ domestic interests supposedly adhering to women. 1971 Publishers' Weekly 22 Mar. 14 The Women's National Book Association panel during NBA Week on ‘sexism’ in children's books. 1973 Ms. Nov. 39/2 An insidious form of sexism pervades most biographies of famous women, a tendency to treat women's work as peripheral to their lives. 1981 Amer. Speech LVI. 84 Although they recognize the inherent sexism of the generic masculine, the Fowlers see no real alternative.

http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50221244?query_type=word&queryword=sexism&first=1&max_to_show=10&sort_type=alpha&search_id=vCfz-orv8VT-5747&result_place=1
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cheapie
11-15-2005, 12:37 PM
which would be sexism, being more protective of girls suggests that they cannot protect themselves. Thus they are inferior.

sexism

({sm}s{ope}ks{shti}z({schwa})m) [f. SEX n. + -ISM, after RACISM

The assumption that one sex is superior to the other and the resultant discrimination practised against members of the supposed inferior sex, esp. by men against women; also conformity with the traditional stereotyping of social roles on the basis of sex.
1968 C. BIRD in Vital Speeches (U.S.) 15 Nov. 90 Sexism is judging people by their sex where sex doesn't matter. 1968 S. VANAUKEN Freedom for Movement Girls{em}Now 7 The parallels between sexism and racism are sharp and clear. Each embodies false assumption in a myth. 1971 Guardian 15 Jan. 11/4 The concept of a ‘woman's page’..perpetuates sexism by stressing the ‘special’ domestic interests supposedly adhering to women. 1971 Publishers' Weekly 22 Mar. 14 The Women's National Book Association panel during NBA Week on ‘sexism’ in children's books. 1973 Ms. Nov. 39/2 An insidious form of sexism pervades most biographies of famous women, a tendency to treat women's work as peripheral to their lives. 1981 Amer. Speech LVI. 84 Although they recognize the inherent sexism of the generic masculine, the Fowlers see no real alternative.

http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/50221244?query_type=word&queryword=sexism&first=1&max_to_show=10&sort_type=alpha&search_id=vCfz-orv8VT-5747&result_place=1
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yes....thanks for the dissertation on sexism. :eek3:


there might be other reasons as well. one might be that girls are more likely to be victims of sexual abuse than boys. another might be that when girls are raped it's usually non-consentual while the opposite might be true with boys.

or the fact that there are in fact physical differences that would would make the girl more likely to be a victim of rape.

let me ask you this...which is more likely? a 20yo woman forcing a 16yo male to have sex with him or a 20yo male forcing a female to have sex with her?

plus, those of with gf's and wives have likely thought about how pissed they would be if their S/O got raped. how many times do you think she has worried about you getting raped?

before you post a knee-jerk reaction...see if it makes any sense.

Airencracken
11-15-2005, 12:41 PM
Oh I'll totally agree that it's WAY more likely that a girl will be raped than a man, but that still doesn't make the imbalance of reaction okay. As far as consentual/non-consentual, the definition of rape is non-consentual sex, statutory rape is considered non-consentual because the individual is too young to consent, so that point is moot.

Just because males being raped is less common, doesn't make it less bad.

cheapie
11-15-2005, 12:49 PM
:stupid:

LPMiller
11-15-2005, 03:25 PM
Yeah, I have to wonder IF a man would have in fact gotten 30 years.

Grimm
11-15-2005, 03:28 PM
There should be a Hot School Teacher exemption in the law though. :P

esme
11-15-2005, 03:36 PM
There should be a Hot School Teacher exemption in the law though. :P


:hmm: even if there was this lady wouldn't be close to fitting that "profile"

she's not even an old good looking lady .....but like someone else said earlier ....if that was their first experience ...well .....regardless it's just plain gross!!!

eSDee
11-15-2005, 05:30 PM
30 years is way too long.

InfiniteNothing
11-15-2005, 07:21 PM
There should be a Hot School Teacher exemption in the law though. :P

:stupid:

nickel
11-15-2005, 07:41 PM
"When you've never eaten, everything looks delicious."
and never underestimate the power of beer goggles

nickel
11-15-2005, 07:42 PM
Yeah, I have to wonder IF a man would have in fact gotten 30 years.
you mean a man would've gotten less or more?

ialsohaveadream
11-15-2005, 07:42 PM
and never underestimate the power of beer goggles
Good point! Especially to a teenager who doesn't have as much experience wearing them.

Burzhui
11-15-2005, 07:45 PM
i don't know i mean the boys were not against it, there is one thing if she forced herself on them, but i'm sure they wanted equally, so it really is not the same thing is raping them.. i just don't think that's a correct term

Mommypooh
11-15-2005, 08:10 PM
well on the 30 years put yourself in the parents shoes think of your little boy and see if that changes your out look on it. It does for me. At first I thought that is really excessive, and then I looked at it and thought what if it was my little boy Cammie, or what if it was my brother. Well I think she deserves what she got. I don't care if the boys wanted it or not she is an adult and should know better.

molecularfire
11-15-2005, 08:13 PM
i don't know i mean the boys were not against it, there is one thing if she forced herself on them, but i'm sure they wanted equally, so it really is not the same thing is raping them.. i just don't think that's a correct term
Same token, I could trick a young girl who knows nothing about sex into having sex with me and would that be rape? It's just the way our society sees it... if you trick a person under 18 years old into having sex with you, it's called rape. if you trick a person over 18 years old into having sex with you, it's called a relationship.


If it was a man who did this to girls people would be screaming "Only 30 years!?!? Cut his unit off and lock him up forever!!!".
As far as I know, you've never done this and I'm perfect willing to scream that about you right now.

bachviet
11-15-2005, 10:31 PM
I think 30-years sentence is harsh.

esme
11-16-2005, 08:49 AM
what bout the fact that she was supplying them with drugs?

i think the punishment was right .....

cheapie
11-16-2005, 08:55 AM
if she killed them she would likely be in prison for less time.

zero2dash
11-16-2005, 10:08 AM
I heard about this when she was initially arrested, and I'm surprised on the outcome of this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...didn't Mary Kay Latorneau (sp?) get a really weak sentence compared to this lady? Granted, MKL didn't give the kids booze or drugs (AFAIK), but she still had sex with them and she's walking free nowadays.

This lady obviously did the wrong thing...as it's already been said, she's the adult & should know better. She can have all the excuses she wants (ie "she did it to be popular") but it still doesn't make it acceptable. 30 years...the number sounds harsh but taking into consideration the drug/alcohol distribution, I suppose it's about right.

I feel bad for her kid/kids especially if they're young...now they have 1 less parent to help raise them - and truthfully *her* kids are the ones who are innocent & suffer the most because of this.

ialsohaveadream
11-16-2005, 10:49 AM
what bout the fact that she was supplying them with drugs?

i think the punishment was right .....
Yes, but even given the fact that she provided drugs, I still find it harsh. 10 years I could see, but 30 seems much.

esme
11-16-2005, 10:55 AM
Yes, but even given the fact that she provided drugs, I still find it harsh. 10 years I could see, but 30 seems much.

i think it was right :thumbup:


so if a man gives 15-16 yr old girls alcohol, drugs and then has sex w/5 of them while they're drunk and druged .....30 yrs would be too much??

boys/girls ....shouldn't make a difference :nono:

mcs328
11-16-2005, 11:42 AM
I think you're assuming they had sex while the kids were drunk or drugged which I don't remember reading. Although the gender shouldn't make a difference, only the crime, that's not how it plays out at all in the real world.

Maybe /. or the smoking gun has a breakdown on what term each conviction carried.

ialsohaveadream
11-16-2005, 05:11 PM
so if a man gives 15-16 yr old girls alcohol, drugs and then has sex w/5 of them while they're drunk and druged .....30 yrs would be too much??

boys/girls ....shouldn't make a difference :nono:
Yeah, but as we've been discussing....it shouldn't make a difference (you're definitely right), but it does to me. I think part of the problem I have with it is that, like cheapie said, she could be convicted of second-degree murder and get a sentence lighter than 30 years.

InfiniteNothing
11-16-2005, 05:19 PM
boys/girls ....shouldn't make a difference :nono:

With that said, you think we're more likely to be emotionally over protective of girls and in denial of their sexuality or under protective with boys.

will_dou
11-16-2005, 09:13 PM
LOL. Those are funny comment with the "everything's delicious when you've never eaten" and the "cut his unit off". I feel sorry for her for being so deperate to fit in (whether that's bs or not). She's so put down in her high school that it'll affect her 'round almost two three decades later and make her do things against her better judgement.

I feel sorry for her family too, how her husband would be heartbroken to hear how her wife acted out of his sight (granted that he still cares), and how her children would be treated by other people, saying they are the children of that "rapist". And I feel sorry for those teenagers too. I WON'T try it EVEN IF it's my first time. They're so blind, and they should have known better too.

Thirty years....you guys think she'll get porale (sp?) earlier than that? I can't believe that she'll be stepping out of the prison when she's 70. She might get 30, but she might walk out earlier anyways.

mcs328
11-17-2005, 07:44 AM
I think they said she can have a hearing after 10 years.

will_dou
11-17-2005, 10:57 AM
well, that would be much less than 30 years...

DaFunkyUnit
11-18-2005, 12:08 AM
sexy party?!?

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nickel
11-18-2005, 05:53 AM
sexy party?!?

http://www.thedrunkenclam.com/vidclipthumbs/sexyparty.jpg
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doolittle
11-18-2005, 10:29 AM
I am sure she would have recieved a much lighter sentence if she charged for the sex.

riskykougra
11-19-2005, 09:15 AM
i think it was right :thumbup:


so if a man gives 15-16 yr old girls alcohol, drugs and then has sex w/5 of them while they're drunk and druged .....30 yrs would be too much??

boys/girls ....shouldn't make a difference :nono:

Well Micheal Jackson got away with it ...:hihi: ...but just think of the sex parties she can be a part of in jail now...she will fit right in. And I dont feel sorry for her because I am the mother of 3 boys and if an adult were to give my boys alcohol or drugs and then have sex with them they probably wouldnt even have made it to court...:woo:

renovation
11-19-2005, 09:51 PM
those must of been some hard up boys to drop it for that ugly mommy !

nickel
11-19-2005, 11:14 PM
those must of been some hard up boys to drop it for that ugly mommy !
eh, i think at that age they'd go for a knot in a tree if it were a bit inviting.

ApltnHkyMutt
11-19-2005, 11:35 PM
Boys at that age are easy to influence. she deserves what she got.