What's the oldest hardware you have in service?

[OC]

My oldest box is still my PPro180 file server. Red Hat 7.1, custom BIOS so it can recognize large hard drives, 80Gb drive, 256mbRAM. I also have a P200 box running FreeSCO 0.2.7, but it's presently in storage. P200/16mb RAM/4mb CF card being used as a fixed disk drive through a CF/IDE adapter. I do plan on using it again though.

[Aristo]

Celeron 300 OC to 600 with 256MB of RAM, 32 or 64MB of GeForce2, Creative Live Value, 10GB of WD hdd. Just a normal web surfer for my mom.

[OC]

Celeron 300 OC to 600 with 256MB of RAM, 32 or 64MB of GeForce2, Creative Live Value, 10GB of WD hdd. Just a normal web surfer for my mom.
600? Damn. I had a 300a I oc'd to 450. I got it up to 475ish before it became unstable. 600 is impressive.

[Aristo]

yeah, it was my old rig when I was crazy about "OC". ;) good old 300a made in Malay.

[Hoser]

I've been getting all my older computers up and running in the past couple days. The oldest one so far is a Pentium 100. I have an original IBM XT (4.7 MHZ) computer in the closet that I'll play with in the next few weeks. The last time I tried it everything worked. I'm sure it still works, they were built like tanks.

[zippyjuan]

I have a saw that my grandfather used to use, but I guess that isn't the kind of hardware you are talking about. This is my first computer and it will be three years old in January. Built it myself too.

[OC]

I've been getting all my older computers up and running in the past couple days. The oldest one so far is a Pentium 100. I have an original IBM XT (4.7 MHZ) computer in the closet that I'll play with in the next few weeks. The last time I tried it everything worked. I'm sure it still works, they were built like tanks.I had an ancient XT once. It had a 386 Turbo card in it. Dang thing took like eight minutes to boot to a C: prompt.

[hapoo]

oldest piece i'm currently using is an old 8gig hard drive i bought in 97. Its the boot drive of my 3ghz server with 1tb+ storage :D

[InfiniteNothing]

Once doesn't count. I bet I have an Apple IIe lying around here somewhere.

[DarkFury]

The Oldest hardware I still have in service is my ViewSonic P815 21" monitor... which I bought in 1995 for about $1,300.

And it still works great... :D Back then... having a 21" monitor was considered "big time".... :heh:

BTW.... I also have a 14" Viewsonic 4 SVGA monitor that I use from time to time that is even older (about 1985 when I bought it with my old 386 DX computer)... however I don't have it in constant service like the P815.

[DaFunkyUnit]

i dump my gear like bad habits.

oldest comp is at my parents house. a P3 450 with a TNT2 vid card, from back in '99.


on second thought, the oldest piece of hardware, which is also at the parents place, is the HP 560C color deskjet printer, bought back in .... 1995, i think (it was purchased along with a 486/66 comp, a year before the Pentium was released) but that just got retired last month.

[hapoo]

the pentium was released in 93

[Devhux]

the pentium was released in 93

(edited) OK, looks like you were right. Here I didn't think the Pentium was that old. :) I originally thought it came out in 95 as well.

[kgsilvas]

We have an old 486 on the home LAN for long-term junk storage, just moved the print server off of it. An HP LJ3 is the oldest laser printer and the DJ 550C is the oldest inkjet. They aren't networked so they just hang off of the old PC.

[zero2dash]

The old Mac here at my job is still hooked up but I never ever ever use it (I don't even turn it on). It's a beige G3 (not a blueberry one), I dunno the proc speed but I do know it's slow as hell. I think it's only got 64 megs of RAM (with virtual memory adding another 128 I think) and like a 4 gig hard drive. Running OS8.

Slower...than...dirt. :laugh:
I really like the G5 I use at work but I look forward to using my P4 at home because my P4 is faster than the G5 I use at work, no matter what I'm doing on it. That's not to say the G5 is a bad computer...it just happens to be the weakest G5 that was made (they don't make anymore)...the 1.8gigger. Meanwhile my P4 is a 3gig. :hihi:

[MikeD]

I just gave my mother a Celeron 600/256 from my stash. She had been using a P120/64. I had to...whenever I would visit and get online, I wanted to :bawl: .

Hooked with a 19" LCD too. That's all she cared about. :)

[Airencracken]

P3 500mhz, 20 gig quantum bigfoot

[Dave_7]

The Oldest hardware I still have in service is my ViewSonic P815 21" monitor... which I bought in 1995 for about $1,300...

Did they charge you a dollar per lb? :P

That thing must be huge.




Dave.

[Grimm]

I think the Athlon 2000+ is my oldest rig at the moment. I usualy drop off the lowest one whenever I build a new rig. I have been cleaning out my old rigs in the past few weeks.
My oldest rig was a Compaq luggable. Z80 CPU, CP/M OS. I don't remember how many K of ram. Here's a link. http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/compaq/

[gear02]

That's not to say the G5 is a bad computer...it just happens to be the weakest G5 that was made (they don't make anymore)...the 1.8gigger. Meanwhile my P4 is a 3gig. :hihi:

Please tell me you don't compare the clock speeds of a G5 to those of a P4.

If you didn't know, you really can't compare clock speeds anymore to anything. Intel's old strategy was to pump clock speed more than anything. AMD gave up on the clock speed game, but was forced to somehow rate their processors according to clock speed, hence AMD 2100+ was like a 1.6ghz speed CPU but acted like a pentium 2.1Ghz.

Now even Intel doesn't want you to rate on clock speed since they've given up on the clock speed game. I think they have a new way of marking their CPUs on speed.

The Apple's PowerPC runs at a much lower clock speed but they are just as fast as Intel's and AMD, although they're updated much less frequently than Intel or AMD chips. Hence Apple's move to Intel chips.

Bottom Line: DON'T COMPARE CLOCK SPEEDS!

[DarkFury]

Did they charge you a dollar per lb? :P

That thing must be huge.




Dave.
Bwaaa haa haa.... :bigmouth:


Nah.. it's not THAT heavy, but it does weigh in at around 80 - 90 lbs... it's a big mofo, but honestly, back in the day the Viewsonics was the shiznit as far as picture was concerned.... until that Sony Trinitron hit the scene.

But hey.... back then I figured $1300 for a 21" was a bargain, considering that a Pentium 166 MMX without monitor was selling for about $1,800 back then... I had just bought my 166 MMX from Quantex (now defunct of course) computers and I bought that 21" monitor to go with it. :D

[brainsmile]

Apple LC. Anyone remember this spell? Tiltowait

[thekidrocks]

I really like the G5 I use at work but I look forward to using my P4 at home because my P4 is faster than the G5 I use at work, no matter what I'm doing on it. That's not to say the G5 is a bad computer...it just happens to be the weakest G5 that was made (they don't make anymore)...the 1.8gigger. Meanwhile my P4 is a 3gig. :hihi:

A 1.8GHz G5 should smoke a 3Ghz P4 away like you've never seen before. That Mac is a true 64 bit machine for one, has a hot FSB as well. Also the OS is totally different in processing architecture.

If an 1.8Ghz G5 Mac is slower than a P4, it lacks RAM - which is something Apple does seem to short a lot of their computers on out of the box. I had one that only had 256MB of PC3200 out of the box. Pulled it and upgraded to a 1GIG strip. Holy Cow!

[shocky123]

I like my oldschool Gateway2000 CrystalScan 17" monitor.
it's still chuggin away, goin on 10 years probably

~Kyle

[zero2dash]

Please tell me you don't compare the clock speeds of a G5 to those of a P4.

If you didn't know, you really can't compare clock speeds anymore to anything. Intel's old strategy was to pump clock speed more than anything. AMD gave up on the clock speed game, but was forced to somehow rate their processors according to clock speed, hence AMD 2100+ was like a 1.6ghz speed CPU but acted like a pentium 2.1Ghz.

Now even Intel doesn't want you to rate on clock speed since they've given up on the clock speed game. I think they have a new way of marking their CPUs on speed.

The Apple's PowerPC runs at a much lower clock speed but they are just as fast as Intel's and AMD, although they're updated much less frequently than Intel or AMD chips. Hence Apple's move to Intel chips.

Bottom Line: DON'T COMPARE CLOCK SPEEDS!

Not comparing clock speed - I'm comparing performance.
(I know clock speed = crap especially with the advent of all these "Athlon ####+" ratings which are nowhere near the true speed.)


A 1.8GHz G5 should smoke a 3Ghz P4 away like you've never seen before. That Mac is a true 64 bit machine for one, has a hot FSB as well. Also the OS is totally different in processing architecture.

If an 1.8Ghz G5 Mac is slower than a P4, it lacks RAM - which is something Apple does seem to short a lot of their computers on out of the box. I had one that only had 256MB of PC3200 out of the box. Pulled it and upgraded to a 1GIG strip. Holy Cow!

*buzz* wrong.
Yes, sure...G5 + OSX = 64 bit. P4 + XP = 32bit. OS different - sure. XP isn't optimized for processor meanwhile OSX is optimized for a 64bit G5.

The Mac is slower man. MUCH slower. Again I'm talking about processing power; ie how long it takes to rasterize an image or apply a filter in Photoshop CS. I thought that the Mac was bogged down by being up/not clean installed for so long (since its purchase Dec 04). Nope...recently had to wipe the system after Acrobat Distiller/font problems; even after the clean install of OSX Panther it still is slower.

BTW - ram on both - fyi the Mac has MORE. I had my bosses order ram (which happens to be the same ram that I use at home) for the G5 at my job. 1 gig of PC3200/DDR400 Corsair ram. The Mac had 256 built in prior to the upgrade; post upgrade it is 1256mb. My P4 at home only has the 1 gig.

It's not the ram, man...it's the cpu. Sure, Photoshop needs ram to dump temp data into, but the processor is still the heart that is doing all the work. I'm sure if it was a higher clock G5 (or even a dual G5), my experience might be leaning more towards the Mac side...this in itself is why I'm not writing off the Mac platform as a whole because my only G5 experience is with a low clock speed cpu vs a PC with a clock speed of almost twice as fast. Hyperthreading may help some on the PC end (I know it does with Photoshop), but I'm sure by the same token that OSX/the G5 has optimizations as well in Photoshop.

***Please note that I'm not biased and/or trying to say "Macs are slow" because I don't like Macs; I'm merely stating that IME the Mac I use is slower than the PC I own. I'd like to experience a similar platform speed (to the PC I own) with a Mac (like a 2.7g G5 or dual 2.7g G5 running Photoshop CS2) but I doubt any Apple store or CompUSA is going to have CS2 Suite installed on a floor model G5 system.***

[dsuds]

486 Processor
33MHz clock
8MB RAM
310MB HD

Running RedHat Linux 6.1 as a Firewall/NAT box.
Uptime measured in MONTHS!

It's so old that I can't replace ANY of the parts.... spares for these parts don't exist anymore.

[shocky123]

No Intel chips are 64-bit (save maybe the Itanium2, still not sure on that), you cannot compare an Intel chip to a quality chip like the PowerPC chip. Granted the Mac versions are based on the G4/5, which is far inferior to the PowerPC chips.

Anybody who claims Intel has a 64 bit cpu is a fool.

~Kyle

[zero2dash]

No Intel chips are 64-bit (save maybe the Itanium2, still not sure on that), you cannot compare an Intel chip to a quality chip like the PowerPC chip. Granted the Mac versions are based on the G4/5, which is far inferior to the PowerPC chips.

Anybody who claims Intel has a 64 bit cpu is a fool.

~Kyle

Intel does have 64 bit chips. (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1767082,00.asp)

Where was Intel having/not having 64 bit cpu's brought up? :confused:
As for comparing Intel -> PPC, that's a matter of opinion. (And brings up another point that I'm wondering where it was initially brought up...?)

[Hoser]

On one of my too rare cleanups of older computer gear I did get rid of two 486 DX2/66 computers. One was a Packard Bell that had the CD-ROM running of the sound card. I couldn't find any drivers to get it working.

[DeepFreeze]

up until 3 years ago, I had an AMD K100

32 MB ram. sB MCD with CDRom 4x

2MB pCI graphics card.

500mb hard disk

[shocky123]

Intel does have 64 bit chips. (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1767082,00.asp)

Where was Intel having/not having 64 bit cpu's brought up? :confused:
As for comparing Intel -> PPC, that's a matter of opinion. (And brings up another point that I'm wondering where it was initially brought up...?)


Read through some EM64T and you'll quickly find that the EM64T ~~ EMulated 64bit Technology.
two 32 bit registers side by side are FAR from 1 64bit register. This goes just the same for two 32bit P4 cores side by side not making dual-core 64bit chip.

(someone brought this up a post or two above my first one.. the PPC reference was in response to the G4/G5 stuff that someone mentioned)

adios,

~Kyle