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attgig
12-17-2005, 11:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/funonwheels/12/12/chevy_cool/index.html


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - There was a time when a big Chevrolet was considered cool. With fins, chrome and lots of style and flash, 1950s models like the Bel Air were made to be noticed.

"Chevrolet used to be the exciting affordable car," said Jim Hall with the automotive marketing consultancy AutoPacific.

Chevrolet is still affordable. But exciting? Not quite.

Today's Chevrolets, even executives at General Motors will admit, do not inspire pounding hearts and raw desire. The brand's most successful products, its SUVs and trucks, dazzle only through sheer size. Even otherwise good cars, like the Impala sedan, have the visual excitement of a decent sport coat.

Now GM is looking back to the 1950s for inspiration as it tries to recover from declining market share and a seemingly unbreakable reliance on cash incentives to sell cars.

Not that future Chevrolets will necessarily sprout tail fins or dozens of pounds of glittering chrome, but they won't look like every other car on the road.

"For a while there I think there was a feeling that people who bought Chevrolets cared about a lot of things but they didn't care a lot about design," said Tom Wilkinson, communications director for GM design.

Eye-catching design has certainly worked for the Chrysler Group of DaimlerChrysler. Cars like the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum sell well without heavy incentives. Both cars are proportioned to look as if they could have driven straight out of a comic book.

But, those cars are not intended for mass appeal. They are designed for strong appeal among a relative few. The same can be said for GM's Hummer and Cadillac divisions, which have also used a more radical design approach to appeal to those who really want to stand out in a crowd.

But what about a car like the Chevrolet Impala, one of GM's most popular cars? Hundreds of thousands of Impalas are sold every year to consumers and fleet buyers like police departments. Are those buyers likely to want flash and style in their big family car?

"Something that's well designed doesn't have to be radically designed," said Wilkinson.

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I hope they don't end up going the way of ford, and just ripping off old designs on their new cars. I want some innovation on design. something new and interesting that does what the cars of the past did without having to rip off their predecessors.

I've respected chrysler for their ability to design beautiful cars over the past 10-15 years.

johnnymk
12-18-2005, 05:04 AM
I don't know what they are saying about the Impala. but talk about bland..Yecchh!!

When i saw the new Corvette in pictures, I said..WOW..but it's just marginally better than the previous design and still homely. The SSR pickup is a joke. And so is the small Cadillac roadster...and so many others.

It's a shame that GM tries to play it safe in many of their designs. And then when they try to be radical, they fail miserably. That guy who left Chrysler to work for GM was supposed to transform the company but he hasn't done anything exceptional. If I were GM's CEO, I would get rid of him and the entire styling studio. There's nothing to lose.

As for Chrysler, in the mid nineties, they had some nice designs. And then they butchered practically every one of the succeeding ones.

The 300 is a neat car, but the Magnum and the Charger are major major disappointments. I can't wait to see what they are going to do with the PT Cruiser, but if it comes out decent, I will be surprised.

And Ford...Found on Road Dead. :bash:

Itsme
12-18-2005, 06:21 AM
I read an interesting article awhile back related to this.

Surveys and focus groups show that there are a good number of people, maybe like the ones here on this thread, who like to have a unique looking car...one that enables the driver to show his individuality. The car companies do develop these types of cars off an on, but they only can sell maybe 30,000 of these...so the price for each ends up being very high.

On the other end of the price spectrum, the car companies are on the lookout for a design they can sell 1 million of, so it can have a relatively low price. Unfortunately, most of these million sellers usually tend to not have much flair, they are often bland...to have mass appeal.

BigJon
12-18-2005, 07:39 AM
I know there are tons of young college kids dying to get into that industry of car design. Fire the old ones and start fresh like johnnymk says. Let's see what designs they can come up with then!

Itsme
12-18-2005, 08:22 AM
I know there are tons of young college kids dying to get into that industry of car design. Fire the old ones and start fresh like johnnymk says. Let's see what designs they can come up with then!

Sounds like the start of a new reality TV show. :)

I've read that the success of the CSI TV shows has created a huge influx of college students wanting to study forensics so they can get a CSI type job.

DarkFury
12-18-2005, 05:59 PM
I don't know what they are saying about the Impala. but talk about bland..Yecchh!!

I know folks who would KILL for a 1994 - 1996 Impala SS... Those were DA BOMB and still command quite a high resale value. True that the current one is "uninspired"... but that just goes to show that GM really didn't pay attention to a "good thing" (which can be said of several car manufactuers).



As for Chrysler, in the mid nineties, they had some nice designs. And then they butchered practically every one of the succeeding ones.

The 300 is a neat car, but the Magnum and the Charger are major major disappointments. I can't wait to see what they are going to do with the PT Cruiser, but if it comes out decent, I will be surprised.
Umm... which 90's Chryslers are you talkin' about? Early or Late? Hopefully you aren't referring to the "K cars" which were built up through 1995. :puke:

The Magnum and the Charger have their niches... and honestly I've sat in the Charger and it was pretty nice (but I still like the 300C better) Yeah, the Charger didn't meet the expectation of the earlier prototype, but overall considering that it shares a common platform with the 300C, I'd still say that it is still a pretty nice car. I'd sure as hell drive the hell outta one if it was offered to me for the right price. :D



And Ford...Found on Road Dead. :bash:
Well at least I can :agree: with you there. :D