Vick faces more problems due to traffic violation

[guiseppewv]

Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick is in trouble for a traffic violation again.

Vick has a hearing in Hampton General District Court on Jan. 17 on charges of speeding and driving with a revoked or suspended license. The offenses occured on Dec. 17, the day Tech players began pre-Gator Bowl preparations.

In July 2004, Vick was arrested for reckless driving and possession of marijuana. That arrest followed an arrest earlier in the year on charges of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Those legal troubles led to his suspension from school for the fall, 2004 semester. He was reinstated with the stipulation that further trouble would lead to his dismissal.


Corporal James West, spokesman for the Hampton Police Department, confirmed that Vick was stopped between 2-3 a.m. the morning of Dec. 17. He was going 38 in a 25 mph zone.

"He was speeding and he had a suspended driver's license," said West, who was unsure why or when the license was suspended.

Vick, the junior who made all-ACC in 2005, has come under scrutiny this week because of his actions in Monday's Gator Bowl victory over Louisville. Late in the second quarter, he stomped on the leg of Louisville's Elvis Dumervil after the play. Sources said he will be suspended for at least one game for that act, if he returns to school. Tech coach Frank Beamer was to meet with Vick and his mother today.

The school has called a press conference tomorrow to discuss how it plans to handle the Vick Gator Bowl situation.



http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FMGArticle%2FRTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128769148650&path=%21sports%21colleges&s=1045855934926

[DarkFury]

Man... when it rains, it really pours on this guy. :heh:

[guiseppewv]

Marcus Vick Arrested, Future as Hokie Unsure

Quarterback Marcus Vick, whose future at Virginia Tech seems in jeopardy for his on-field actions during the Jan. 2 Gator Bowl, also is facing new off-field problems.

Vick, the younger brother of former Tech All-American and current Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, was arrested Dec. 17 in Hampton, Va., and charged with misdemeanor driving on a suspended or revoked driver's license, according to the Virginia Judicial Systems Web site.

The charge was not reported on the state's Web site until yesterday.

Vick, who led the Hokies to a 11-2 record in his first season as a starter, already is under intense criticism for stomping on the leg of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil during Virginia Tech's 35-24 victory on Monday.

Hokies Coach Frank Beamer was scheduled to meet today with Vick and his mother in Suffolk, Va., to discuss his future with the Hokies. According to Virginia Tech sources, Vick would be suspended for at least the Hokies' 2006 opener if he returns to the team.

Vick, 21, missed all of the 2004 season while serving a school-imposed suspension following two separate incidents in which he was charged with crimes while enrolled at Virginia Tech.

In September 2004, Vick pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor for giving alcohol to underage girls. In July 2005, Vick was arrested for speeding, and police found marijuana in his car. He pleaded guilty to reckless driving and no contest to possession of marijuana.

Cpl. James West, public information officer for the Hampton Police Department, said Vick was cited Dec. 17 for two violations -- speeding and driving on a suspended driver's license. West said Vick wasn't taken into custody and was issued two summons to appear in Hampton General District Court on Jan. 17.

When the school announced Vick's semester-long suspension last year, Virginia Tech President Charles M. Steger said if Vick faced additional off-field troubles, "his Virginia Tech career is effectively ended."

Virginia Tech has called an 11 a.m. news conference Saturday to address the incident at the Gator Bowl involving Vick. The school said University President Charles Steger, Director of Athletics Jim Weaver and Beamer will take part in the news conference.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010601017.html?sub=new

[guiseppewv]

University President Charles Steger Statement on Marcus Vick Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick has been permanently dismissed from the Hokie football program due to a cumulative effect of legal infractions and unsportsmanlike play.


Virginia Tech had suspended Vick in 2004. The university provided one last opportunity for Vick to become a citizen of the university and re-admitted him in January 2005, with the proviso that any future problems would result in automatic dismissal from the team.


Head Football Coach Frank Beamer met with Vick and his mother this afternoon and informed the quarterback and his family of the University's decision. His recent actions are unfortunate and we wish him well in his future endeavors.


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Said Coach Frank Beamer, "I'm very disappointed that this didn't have a better ending. We wanted what's best for this football team and Marcus. I certainly wish him the best."


http://www.hokiesports.com/football/recaps/2006016aaa.html

Well, that's all folks. It took a traffic violation to get him booted.

[kgsilvas]

http://www.hokiesports.com/football/recaps/2006016aaa.html Well, that's all folks. It took a traffic violation to get him booted.

It was more than just a traffic violation that got him the boot. It was his previous bad acts, his incredibly bad conduct during the last game, AND the latest legal problem that led to his permanent dismissal.

... re-admitted him in January 2005, with the proviso that any future problems would result in automatic dismissal from the team.

[ray]

Dumbass

[RIVERWIDOW]

And I would be willing to bet that he will go pro. Some team will draft him, pay him big bucks and iin 2-3 years be whining about his behavior. Does the name Ryan Leaf ring any bells???:disa: :puke:

[oguevarra]

Hello NFL...I hope he tries to do some of that punk stuff in the pros.

[Kevster]

Anyone who watches 'My Name is Earl' would know that karma catches up with you. I guess Marcus Vick will learn that sometime?

[guiseppewv]

It was more than just a traffic violation that got him the boot. It was his previous bad acts, his incredibly bad conduct during the last game, AND the latest legal problem that led to his permanent dismissal.

... re-admitted him in January 2005, with the proviso that any future problems would result in automatic dismissal from the team.

The proviso was only for off the field indiscretions.

[baggio248]

And the hits keep on coming....



Vick arrested, accused of brandishing firearm

SUFFOLK, Va. (AP) - Former Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick, tossed from the team for his on- and off-the-field actions, was charged Monday with three counts of brandishing a firearm, police said.

Vick, 21, surrendered at the Suffolk magistrate's office Monday and was later released on $10,000 bond, The Virginian-Pilot reported in its online edition.
The parents of a 17-year-old boy said Vick pointed a weapon at their son and two others during an altercation on Sunday, police spokeswoman Lt. D.J. George said.

Vick's lawyer, Larry Woodward, confirmed the arrest, but declined further comment.

Virginia Tech on Friday kicked Vick off the football team, citing the cumulative effects of numerous legal transgressions and his unsportsmanlike conduct in the Jan. 2 Gator Bowl, where he was caught on tape stomping on the left calf of an opponent.

Vick is the younger brother of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick.

[DarkFury]

Maybe Marcus Vick is trying to wrest the "SPORTS IDIOT" title of the year away from Maurice Clarett? :shrug:

From this latest action... it appears he has succeeded. :2far: :shrug:

[VTGreg]

I seriously hope he gets his act together because he is very talented. It's a shame to see him go downhill like this.

If there was ever a doubt that VT made the right move in dismissing him from the team, there isn't any longer.

[RIVERWIDOW]

My husband says the Raiders will take him. He will fit right in with the rest of the inmates.:winkie:

[eSDee]

I wonder what is so wrong with this kids life that he feels he has to destroy it :shrug: I seriously hope that someone in his family can shake him and up and make him open his eyes, so that he knows that all the bad around him is of his own doing. With every event he keeps pushing himself further and further away from great opportunity. Hopefully he can pull out of this nosedive.

[DarkFury]

I wonder what is so wrong with this kids life that he feels he has to destroy it :shrug: I seriously hope that someone in his family can shake him and up and make him open his eyes, so that he knows that all the bad around him is of his own doing. With every event he keeps pushing himself further and further away from great opportunity. Hopefully he can pull out of this nosedive.
Must be the pressure or living up to his older brother? :shrug:

But he is definitely making the "wrong" name for himself.

[civicdidex]

my psychic prediction: he will annouce which team he does NOT want to play for...and change his last name to manning.

[ray]

a few days later and Marcus Vick is still a dumbass. {see post #6}

[VTGreg]

I wonder what is so wrong with this kids life that he feels he has to destroy it :shrug: I seriously hope that someone in his family can shake him and up and make him open his eyes, so that he knows that all the bad around him is of his own doing. With every event he keeps pushing himself further and further away from great opportunity. Hopefully he can pull out of this nosedive.

I think it was a matter of too much too fast. His brother was a highly touted recruit but by no means the name he became in college. Within a few years his brother is a multi-millionaire and his family is set for life. He's driving around an Escalade as a highly touted college freshman and has everything he could ever want. I guess he figured he could do whatever he wanted because of his name.

[VTGreg]

From an espn article http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2287414:

Vick was suspended for the 2004 season (for possession of marijuana and a conviction for contributing to the delinquency of a minor by allowing underaged girls to have alcohol; he was found innocent of having sex with a 15 year old). And this season at West Virginia, he was disciplined for a middle-finger salute at Mountaineers fans. Never mind that some of the fans called him a rapist, a pedophile, a child molester. Or that the Hokies' team bus drove by a building that featured a sign hanging from one of the windows: "Hide Your Children. Marcus Is In Town."

And for what it's worth, Vick and Tech coach Frank Beamer did wait outside the Louisville locker room in hopes of apologizing personally to Dumervil and Cardinals coach Bobby Petrino. They were told by a U of L official that Dumervil and Petrino weren't interested in discussing the incident.

[LegendKiller]

There is one bigger screwup in history, Demitrius Underwood.

However, Marcus is catching up. Classic example of head = bigger than the brain in it.

[MikeD]

And this season at West Virginia, he was disciplined for a middle-finger salute at Mountaineers fans. Never mind that some of the fans called him a rapist, a pedophile, a child molester. Or that the Hokies' team bus drove by a building that featured a sign hanging from one of the windows: "Hide Your Children. Marcus Is In Town."

No offense to GWV, but WVU fans take the cake. I've never encountered more hostile fans, and that includes going into FedEx Field and The Vet wearing Cowboys gear.

[guiseppewv]

From an espn article http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2287414:

Vick was suspended for the 2004 season (for possession of marijuana and a conviction for contributing to the delinquency of a minor by allowing underaged girls to have alcohol; he was found innocent of having sex with a 15 year old). And this season at West Virginia, he was disciplined for a middle-finger salute at Mountaineers fans. Never mind that some of the fans called him a rapist, a pedophile, a child molester. Or that the Hokies' team bus drove by a building that featured a sign hanging from one of the windows: "Hide Your Children. Marcus Is In Town."

And for what it's worth, Vick and Tech coach Frank Beamer did wait outside the Louisville locker room in hopes of apologizing personally to Dumervil and Cardinals coach Bobby Petrino. They were told by a U of L official that Dumervil and Petrino weren't interested in discussing the incident.


1st of all so what that they waited outside the locker room?!?!? Vick said he apoligized to Dumervil which he did not. I also found an article on another site (I'll have to find it and post it here) that stated that Beamer knew about the traffic violation back in December but no action was taken against Vick eventhough he was on the "one more screw-up and you are outta here" plan. 3rd - So what if WVU fans put up signs caling Vick a pedophile (he is), a rapist (legally speaking he is), or a child molester (again, legally speaking he is)????


No offense to GWV, but WVU fans take the cake. I've never encountered more hostile fans, and that includes going into FedEx Field and The Vet wearing Cowboys gear.

I am glad that you encountered a hostile environment b/c that is part of the game of football. :P When we play at our stadium we try and make the visiting team and their fans feel unwelcome. I don't mean by beating them up or something like that but just in general not making them feel welcome. I, personally, have brought opposing team's fans, including VT fans, with me to Morgantown for games and they never had any problems. :shrug: Sure they got harrassed (verbally), booed, heckled, and what not but you can ask any of them if they would return for another game and I am sure they all would b/c the game was awesome and the tailgating is second to none. :)

[guiseppewv]

Note: Actually after reading the ESPN linked to in VTGreg's post it was clear that the coaches knew of his driving without a license in Dec


<snip> he was ticketed for driving with a suspended license last month (he failed to tell his coaches that he was also ticketed for speeding) <snip>

[ialsohaveadream]

3rd - So what if WVU fans put up signs caling Vick a pedophile (he is), a rapist (legally speaking he is), or a child molester (again, legally speaking he is)????
First of all, a 19 year old trying to have sex with a 14 or 15 year old is NOT a pedophile. A dirtbag, yes, but not a pedophile. And legally speaking, he's not a rapist, as he wasn't convicted of having sex with the girl against her will, only giving her drinks.

Now that that's cleared up, let the Vick-bashing continue. Go Canes! :P

[VTGreg]

I also found an article on another site (I'll have to find it and post it here) that stated that Beamer knew about the traffic violation back in December but no action was taken against Vick eventhough he was on the "one more screw-up and you are outta here" plan. 3rd - So what if WVU fans put up signs caling Vick a pedophile (he is), a rapist (legally speaking he is), or a child molester (again, legally speaking he is)????


He is not a pedophile, a rapist or a child molestor, legally speaking. He was not convicted for any crime that fits into any of those categories. He gave alcohol and had sex with someone he met at a college party.

As far as the fact that Beamer and staff knew about the traffic violation, I'm not really sure how big of a deal this is. Vick did not submit the paperwork to get his license reinstated and that was the source of the charge. That charge has since been dropped because he filled out the paperwork. Should a traffic violation be enough to kick him off the team, even if he is on a zero tolerance policy?

I'm not trying to be a Vick apologist. Just thought I would show the excerpts to that article that showed the context under which some of the events took place. I'm still very glad that he is no longer part of the VT football team.

[guiseppewv]

Should a traffic violation be enough to kick him off the team, even if he is on a zero tolerance policy?


If it is zero tolerance? Yes. Besides I think the driving without a license is more serious than speeding. You don't get arrested for speeding (read: not wreckless driving which is twice the speed limit or 20+ mph over the speed limit) but you usually do for driving w/o a license.

[VTGreg]

If it is zero tolerance? Yes. Besides I think the driving without a license is more serious than speeding. You don't get arrested for speeding (read: not wreckless driving which is twice the speed limit or 20+ mph over the speed limit) but you usually do for driving w/o a license.

So getting pulled over for a speeding ticket is reason to dismiss someone if they are on a zero tolerance policy? Yes, his license was suspended, but only because the paperwork had not been submitted to get it reinstated. It's not the same scenario if he is driving 3 months into a 6 month suspended license. He has filled out the paperwork and the charge was dropped.

If you think getting a speeding ticket is reason to dismiss someone if they are on a zero tolerance policy that's fine. I just want to make clear that the driving with a suspended license charge really isn't as big of a deal as originally thought. An oversight on Vick's part (just continues to show he doesn't have his act together) but not a criminal act.

[MikeD]

Ehhh, this isn't about driving, suspended licenses, etc. It's about WVU - VT. For that reason, we'll never agree. ;)

[molecularfire]

So getting pulled over for a speeding ticket is reason to dismiss someone if they are on a zero tolerance policy? Yes, his license was suspended, but only because the paperwork had not been submitted to get it reinstated. It's not the same scenario if he is driving 3 months into a 6 month suspended license. He has filled out the paperwork and the charge was dropped.

If you think getting a speeding ticket is reason to dismiss someone if they are on a zero tolerance policy that's fine. I just want to make clear that the driving with a suspended license charge really isn't as big of a deal as originally thought. An oversight on Vick's part (just continues to show he doesn't have his act together) but not a criminal act.
He was not dismissed because of a speeding ticket or driving with a suspended license. He was dismissed because he was caught in posession of marijuana, giving alcohol to underaged girls (gee... I wonder why a teenage guy would give alcholo to underaged girls... maybe he just wanted to spin them around a couple of times and see what geometrical designs the vomit makes when it splatters on the walls), and when given a second chance for blatantly breaking the laws again. Not only did he speed (which in itself would be forgivable) he did so on a suspended license. Forget the speeding, he shouldn't have been driving at all. I can see the argument that he didn't notice that he was speeding, that it was an accident but how do you accidentally get into a car, put the keys in the ignition, put the car in drive and hit the gas pedal at least long enough to be caught speeding. He knowingly broke the law while he was on probation for knowingly breaking the law... he's not going to be getting any pity from me.

[guiseppewv]

So getting pulled over for a speeding ticket is reason to dismiss someone if they are on a zero tolerance policy? Yes, his license was suspended, but only because the paperwork had not been submitted to get it reinstated. It's not the same scenario if he is driving 3 months into a 6 month suspended license. He has filled out the paperwork and the charge was dropped.

If you think getting a speeding ticket is reason to dismiss someone if they are on a zero tolerance policy that's fine. I just want to make clear that the driving with a suspended license charge really isn't as big of a deal as originally thought. An oversight on Vick's part (just continues to show he doesn't have his act together) but not a criminal act.


I disagree. Driving on a suspended license is a BIG deal. Speeding is not a big deal. If your license is suspended (wether you deserved it or not) then your license is *suspended* and you should not be operating a motor vehicle. :shrug: And if your license is still suspended b/c you are an idiot or lazy or whatever, and you didn't fill the paperwork out to reinstate your license then you should *still* not be operating a motor vehicle. It is still a criminal act. License suspended + operating a motor vehicle = criminal act. It doesn't matter what the reason is. If you drive on an expired license b/c you didn't realize it was expired it is a criminal act.


Ehhh, this isn't about driving, suspended licenses, etc. It's about WVU - VT. For that reason, we'll never agree. ;)

Actually it isn't - I would say the samething if he was a WVU player. I might not be as loud about it but I would still feel the same way. If you drive on a suspended license then you are an idiot and you deserve some punishment. It might be different if his license was suspended and he was never told or was not aware of it. :)


He was not dismissed because of a speeding ticket or driving with a suspended license. He was dismissed because he was caught in posession of marijuana, giving alcohol to underaged girls (gee... I wonder why a teenage guy would give alcholo to underaged girls... maybe he just wanted to spin them around a couple of times and see what geometrical designs the vomit makes when it splatters on the walls), and when given a second chance for blatantly breaking the laws again. Not only did he speed (which in itself would be forgivable) he did so on a suspended license. Forget the speeding, he shouldn't have been driving at all. I can see the argument that he didn't notice that he was speeding, that it was an accident but how do you accidentally get into a car, put the keys in the ignition, put the car in drive and hit the gas pedal at least long enough to be caught speeding. He knowingly broke the law while he was on probation for knowingly breaking the law... he's not going to be getting any pity from me.

:stupid:

[VTGreg]

I disagree. Driving on a suspended license is a BIG deal. Speeding is not a big deal. If your license is suspended (wether you deserved it or not) then your license is *suspended* and you should not be operating a motor vehicle. :shrug: And if your license is still suspended b/c you are an idiot or lazy or whatever, and you didn't fill the paperwork out to reinstate your license then you should *still* not be operating a motor vehicle. It is still a criminal act. License suspended + operating a motor vehicle = criminal act. It doesn't matter what the reason is. If you drive on an expired license b/c you didn't realize it was expired it is a criminal act.

If it were a criminal act then it wouldn't have been dismissed so quickly.

[guiseppewv]

If it were a criminal act then it wouldn't have been dismissed so quickly.

It was a criminal act. It was probably dismissed b/c someone pulled some strings for him. Besides that criminal charges are dropped all the time even though the charges were valid. For example a friend of mine jumped on the field after the Sugar Bowl. He was arrested b/c he commited a crime (trespessing) but when he was arraigned in the morning the charges were dropped. The charges being dropped does not mean he did not commit a crime.

[VTGreg]

It was a criminal act. It was probably dismissed b/c someone pulled some strings for him.

It was dismissed because the suspension period was up and it was simply a matter of filling out the paperwork.