View Full Version : What should the Texans do?
gear02
01-12-2006, 07:54 PM
Let's see what the G|A consensus is. This is especially important to me since I'm one of the few Texans fans outside of Houston.
ialsohaveadream
01-12-2006, 08:19 PM
I just get a feeling watching Reggie Bush play that he's something special, and will be at the next level, too.
Bires
01-12-2006, 09:30 PM
Trade for more picks and buy an offensive line.
bachviet
01-12-2006, 10:29 PM
Trade for more draft picks and hopefully they could get Lendale White.
attgig
01-13-2006, 12:02 AM
i'm really torn.
i ended up voting for bush, but i wouldn't mind seeing them trading the #1 pick for more...and i mean MORE.
if they could trade this pick for the other team's next years' 1st round pick, AND someone like Jonathan Ogden (though he's getting old, but someone of his caliber from a bad team that could get them a lottery pick next year), i'd do it.
VTGreg
01-13-2006, 04:50 AM
I think they should trade the pick for more picks. Trade down to the 4th or 5th spot (NYJ or GB) and take DeBrickishaw (sp?) Ferguson. Then fill other holes with the additional draft picks. I say this for three reasons:
1) I don't believe that Bush will be an incredible difference maker at the next level. He isn't an every down back and will not be able to bounce everything to the outside in the NFL. I think injuries and overall longevity should be a big concern with him. I think he may end up being similar to Dante Hall.
2) They already have a very good back with Domanick Davis and a solid backup to him in Jonathon Wells.
3) The Texans have a bunch of holes and if they can get a pick between 5-10 and a few other draft picks for the #1 pick they should be able to plug a number of those holes.
Reggie Bush isn't going to turn this team into a winner. The RB hasn't been the problem with the Texans. It's been their offensive line and inconsistency on defense.
MikeD
01-13-2006, 06:43 AM
I think they should trade the pick for more picks. Trade down to the 4th or 5th spot (NYJ or GB) and take DeBrickishaw (sp?) Ferguson. Then fill other holes with the additional draft picks. I say this for three reasons:
1) I don't believe that Bush will be an incredible difference maker at the next level. He isn't an every down back and will not be able to bounce everything to the outside in the NFL. I think injuries and overall longevity should be a big concern with him. I think he may end up being similar to Dante Hall.
2) They already have a very good back with Domanick Davis and a solid backup to him in Jonathon Wells.
3) The Texans have a bunch of holes and if they can get a pick between 5-10 and a few other draft picks for the #1 pick they should be able to plug a number of those holes.
Reggie Bush isn't going to turn this team into a winner. The RB hasn't been the problem with the Texans. It's been their offensive line and inconsistency on defense.
I agree with most of this (with the exception of the Dante Hall comment), but they run they risk of making the Portland / Sam Bowie pick if they pass him up.
A few things:
They do have Carr, and with the investment they've made in him they should probably keep him. I think that rules out Leinart, and no way they should take Young #1.
Davis is a good back, so Bush isn't a need pick. Could they possibly find a market for Davis if they feel like Bush is the real deal? Sure, but they should probably ask for at least a #2 for him.
Trading down makes sense from a financial perspective as well. #1 picks chew up big time cap room; trading down gives them some more flexibility.
If they could get three picks for the #1 (say, a #5 and an additional first round and third rounder), then they should do it.
Sirrich3
01-13-2006, 06:58 AM
I think they should trade the first pick for a 3-5 pick.
dbax791
01-13-2006, 08:45 AM
Isn't David Carr due an $8M bonus or something like that?
That throws a wrench it it because the Texans first have to decide what to do about the QB position.
I agree with trading down. I believe the best way to build a football team is from the inside-out. Get strong lines and backers and then go for skill positions.
Heck, look at the Broncos. It seems like year after year any running back they put back there looks like an all-pro.
gear02
01-13-2006, 08:48 AM
Here's the problem though. In houston, the idiot fans have pretty much jumped on the Vince Young bandwagon and has unfairly thrown Carr under the bus. Can Carr even return next year? How much should the Texans listen to fans?
attgig
01-13-2006, 10:00 AM
I agree with most of this (with the exception of the Dante Hall comment), but they run they risk of making the Portland / Sam Bowie pick if they pass him up.
A few things:
They do have Carr, and with the investment they've made in him they should probably keep him. I think that rules out Leinart, and no way they should take Young #1.
Davis is a good back, so Bush isn't a need pick. Could they possibly find a market for Davis if they feel like Bush is the real deal? Sure, but they should probably ask for at least a #2 for him.
Trading down makes sense from a financial perspective as well. #1 picks chew up big time cap room; trading down gives them some more flexibility.
If they could get three picks for the #1 (say, a #5 and an additional first round and third rounder), then they should do it.
the thing is, in the NFL, it's ALWAYS good to have more backs than you need. KC with Priest & Larry. Miami with Ricky & rookie. few more. many of these guys do get hurt (like dominic). How awesome is it to have someone like Larry coming in.
Also, the first year, rookies usually can't take the longer schedule and more bruising D. if they use bush as the featured back, i can see him missing ~4 games simply cuz his body can't take it.
Here's the problem though. In houston, the idiot fans have pretty much jumped on the Vince Young bandwagon and has unfairly thrown Carr under the bus. Can Carr even return next year? How much should the Texans listen to fans?
As much as philly should've listened to their fans about ricky williams. NOT AT ALL
VTGreg
01-13-2006, 11:13 AM
I agree with the comment about depth at running back but Houston has Jonathon Wells as their backup. He obviously isn't a back that is the caliber of Bush, but he is a very solid backup.
The Texans have already said they are sticking with Carr. They'll pay him his bonus and draft a position other than QB with their first rounder.
It is still early but I don't think there is anyone that has multiple first round picks right now. As a result, the Texans may be looking at a 1st, 2nd and 4th or 5th rounder for the draft pick. It will be very interesting to see if they hold onto the pick.
zenbooty
01-13-2006, 11:37 AM
It is still early but I don't think there is anyone that has multiple first round picks right now. As a result, the Texans may be looking at a 1st, 2nd and 4th or 5th rounder for the draft pick. It will be very interesting to see if they hold onto the pick.
They can get players as well as picks for their pick.
Take Bush, trade Domanick Davis for some O-Line.
TofuNinja
01-13-2006, 04:01 PM
THey need to do the same thing that I would have said the Niners needed to do had SF gotten this first pick....
Take Bush. Then use the rest of your picks on an O Line.
Carr is a good QB, give him Bush and an O line he will be a great QB.
Carr is also battle tested. Young and Lienart are not. Carr has experience in the league and that is more valuable. I do not see Vince Young taking a team to the Super Bowl his rookie year. Not happening.
Bush would not carry the team but he could add some razzle dazzle to the Texans offence and atleast give Carr more options. The more weapons you have (once you had a good o line) the better an offense can be.
I think that Bush has the potential to be something special.... Young may be special too.... but I think it takes longer for QBs to blossom in the league than other positions. Elli is taking time, Palmer, Big Ben. But over time they will get better hopefully.
ialsohaveadream
01-13-2006, 04:45 PM
As much as philly should've listened to their fans about ricky williams. NOT AT ALL
Exactly. Philly fans also booed like crazy when they took McNabb. Perhaps they wanted Cade McNown? :rolleyes:
VTGreg
01-14-2006, 04:36 PM
Exactly. Philly fans also booed like crazy when they took McNabb. Perhaps they wanted Cade McNown? :rolleyes:
Haha. Philly fans.
molecularfire
01-14-2006, 05:24 PM
The Texans should accept the fact that they are the Texans, so it doesn't matter what they do, they are still going to suck.
gear02
01-14-2006, 05:42 PM
Heh...that's what people said of the Bengals in the mid 90s...now look at them.
Oh wait, they're out of the playoffs? Crap!
RIVERWIDOW
01-14-2006, 06:51 PM
The Texans should accept the fact that they are the Texans, so it doesn't matter what they do, they are still going to suck.
:laugh: :agree: :laugh:
attgig
01-14-2006, 07:20 PM
THey need to do the same thing that I would have said the Niners needed to do had SF gotten this first pick....
Take Bush. Then use the rest of your picks on an O Line.
how does that make sense? a 5th round pick on O-line is supposed to be better than someone already on Houston's roster? i know they're bad, but not that bad....cmon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/060113
page 2 article about why it should be young.
TofuNinja
01-14-2006, 09:46 PM
Have you watched the Texans? If their o-line is so good how come they can not protect Carr? If you get bigger stronger guys on that o line or add some bigger stronger guys Carr would be a whole different QB.
Grubbie
01-15-2006, 10:24 PM
News reports saying it is Bush and he has been guaranteed by the Texans that if he went pro, he was #1. Story on ESPN now.
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