Firefox Myths

[mechmike0034]

While Firefox is a decent Web Browser, there are numerous Myths floating around the Internet regarding it. Hopefully this site will debunk some of these.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/SupportCD/FirefoxMyths.html

[InfiniteNothing]

They are going to become a "for profit" :(

[mechmike0034]

I understand from doing a little searching that the author of the FF Myths site is a bit "controversial", to say the least. I'm not anti-anything - I just thought the site interesting.

[Cubsfan]

I understand from doing a little searching that the author of the FF Myths site is a bit "controversial", to say the least. I'm not anti-anything - I just thought the site interesting.
By "controversial" do you mean "hates firefox"? That's kinda the vibe I got reading through that.

[InfiniteNothing]

I think he's more tired of firefox fanboys.

[Airencracken]

I use opera and firefox, I like both for different reasons.

[mechmike0034]

I think he's more tired of firefox fanboys.

This is my take on it.

I will say that have issues with folks whose answer to any internet browsing-related problem is "install Firefox". Fix the problem, remove the spyware, or whatever, then use whatever browser you want.

[Thesifer]

He is correct in that he is speaking basically the "truth" but with the amount of browsers that are out now, he needs to mention how each of them perform individually for each area or just take two of them and compare. You can't just go pick and choose which browser you are going to use to refute a myth and then change it on the next one.

[cheapie]

meh. i still like it. however, i don't like cleaning up my bookmarks because it doesn't let you delete one without closing the b-mark dropdown and making you open it up again. :shrug:

[mcs328]

Weren't some browsers heavily ad supported. I remember seeing Opera and Avant using ads in their toolbars.

[Airencracken]

Opera was ad supported, but before firefox that what I used because IE was t3h sux.

Now it is completely free. I like opera, I recommend it.

[Dem0072]

I like firefox for the tabs feature - yes IE does support tabs, but the catch is you need the whole MSN bar, and I don't feel like having one of those browsers with all the dead weight, I still have nightmares from AOL.

As far as security, security is security, always evolving & being patched, the main sense of security compairison according to firefox "fanboys" is the active-x exploitation, where as I see a equal threat from flash & java, which in internet explorer 6 (correct me if im incorrect), I dont recall very customizable settings for this, however I believe it was covered lightly under advanced tab.

Essentially more than anything I think the simplicity and useful interface, allong with the good start in ad blocking firefox had, and the tabs feature, is its essential "modern day legacy", not the first, not the last, but a definate advantage to its name.

Reading that page makes me want to review opera again, I tried it a long time ago & didn't like it but ill give it another go sometime.

[zero2dash]

Fx still has the memory leak...that's the only problem they should worry about fixing, not some "myths". :shrug: :heh:


Memory Leak

Myth - "Firefox's Memory Leak is a Bug" - Example

Reality - The Firefox Memory Leak is not a bug. It's a Feature! The "Feature" is how the pages are cached in a tabbed environment.

"To improve performance when navigating (studies show that 39% of all page navigations are renavigations to pages visited less than 10 pages ago, usually using the back button), Firefox 1.5 implements a Back-Forward cache that retains the rendered document for the last five session history entries for each tab. This is a lot of data. If you have a lot of tabs, Firefox's memory usage can climb dramatically. It's a trade-off. What you get out of it is faster performance as you navigate the web." - Source

Notes - Opera is able to do the same thing without consuming anywhere near as much memory.


I still don't get why slower performance equals feature in the minds of the developers. It's a BUG. If it wasn't a BUG, then your product wouldn't take a performance hit doing the same thing that another browser does WITHOUT a performance hit. What is with mozilla.org & these developers now...? It's almost like every since they became an organization (got the .org) and started getting revenue, they've become lazy and complacent and aren't fixing underlying issues anymore. :disa:

Opera is excellent; no problems there. Since they got rid of the ad support - I highly recommend it as a primary browser. :thumb:

[ray]

I still use Internet Explorer and really don't have any problems with it. Everybody says there are security holes, spyware issues, blah blah blah. If you keep your computer clean, you shouldn't have any problems with IE.

[Markel]

I still use Internet Explorer and really don't have any problems with it. Everybody says there are security holes, spyware issues, blah blah blah. If you keep your computer clean, you shouldn't have any problems with IE.
Just don't search for "Free Screensavers" (http://forums.gotapex.com/showthread.php?t=99644). ;)

[zero2dash]

I still use Internet Explorer and really don't have any problems with it. Everybody says there are security holes, spyware issues, blah blah blah. If you keep your computer clean, you shouldn't have any problems with IE.

I agree with you, to a certain extent. :)
I have switched back to primarily using IE6sp2 as a primary browser, because as you said - on a well-maintened and preventative computer, IE won't give you any problems (for the most part).

I like using Opera a lot (especially on a Mac, where I've had Safari issues), but usually on a Windows PC, I may have it installed, but I don't use it. Some days I think to myself, "man, I miss mouse gestures and tabbed browsing", and I open Opera and use it for awhile. And then I realize "nah, I didn't miss them all that much, and my mouse has navigation buttons, and I rarely view more than one page at a time, so, IE is good enough for me". :heh:

[Grubbie]

IE7 on vista will be much more secure then IE6 on XPSP2.

[ramazank2]

IE works fine for me. Firefox had too many little annoyances...

[zero2dash]

IE7 on vista will be much more secure then IE6 on XPSP2.

:agree:
IE7 + Vista both are frickin' sweet (from what I've seen of them after installing the CTP build a month or so ago).

OT - it is interesting how that site claims that the Mozilla Suite runs faster than Firefox also; I can only take their word for it (if that), but...ouch. :eek:

[Thesifer]

I prefer firefox right now, and they have extension or plugins for most things to work inside it. I may try IE7 and Vista when everything is settled down and ermm "copies" start appearing around the internet..


My question is.. Why isn't this thread locked yet? It's almost a worthwhile thing to talk about.. should be locked in my opinion

[Grubbie]

:agree:
IE7 + Vista both are frickin' sweet (from what I've seen of them after installing the CTP build a month or so ago).

OT - it is interesting how that site claims that the Mozilla Suite runs faster than Firefox also; I can only take their word for it (if that), but...ouch. :eek:


If you are a beta user I would upgrade to the the latest build they just released. I'm guessing you are using the 5308 or the 5342 builds.

If people understand UAC and don't turn it off spyware and adware will be MUCH less of a problem. The problem with UAC now is that all programs built for XPSP2 require admin privs which they don't need. Once devs start correctly making their producs, UAC will be much better.