cool little video - HHO Gas!

[DaFunkyUnit]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=660759158947266385&q=HHO

hooray for alternative energy.

[sizemic1]

I'd be all for it if it ran on salt water.
Everyone is so caught up on fossil fuel supplies right now...but I can tell ya, the next major world crisis is going be the lack of fresh water. Desalinization plants are for the most, still too cost prohibitive.

[hapoo]

right :rolleyes:

[redcolours]

is this trying to put me on? :hmm:

[Houdini]

Err...my streaming video stopped right before the last minute of the video.

I have to call BS on a lot of this. First, the graphic they used to show a water molecule had 2 OXYGEN and 1 HYDROGEN atom. WTF? Completely backwards. Wrong.

Second, it is not an "energy source." Yes, burning hydrogen, which is what they're effectively doing, makes a nice hot flame. But they really skipped over the part about how they MAKE the new "gas." It still takes energy to crack water. The $7/day quote given is very arbitrary, as it really depends on your local energy prices for plugging something like this "generator" into a city's power supply (wall socket.) Or, you could burn a fossil fuel to run the generator. Either way, you lose.

The water itself doesn't make more energy than was put into cracking it into hydrogen and oxygen. It's not a new energy source. If it were, an internet video would be the last place we'd find out about it. The guy who built the "HHO 2000" would be in Stockholm getting a nice medal.

Safer to users than oxyacetelyne? Maybe. But it's not as hot.

Hydrogen doesn't like to be on its own. It readily and rapidly forms H2. And with oxygen around, it becomes water pretty damn fast, usually with a nice hot reaction.

The part about the non-rusty piece of metal that was burned by the HHO gas? If the components of the gas are hydrogen and oxygen, there would be absolutely NO oxidation protection from just blasting it with that flame. Strap it to a piece of zinc or something, sure, but chemistry is chemistry. You can't break or make up new laws of physics.

I could go on and on, but this video made me laugh several times...

[OC]

I don't buy it. Way too many holes in the explanation.

[Cheesypuff]

houdini! you are uber chem guru!

hydrogen = big boom!

[Kevster]

Hydrogen doesn't like to be on its own. It readily and rapidly forms H2. And with oxygen around, it becomes water pretty damn fast, usually with a nice hot reaction.

The part about the non-rusty piece of metal that was burned by the HHO gas? If the components of the gas are hydrogen and oxygen, there would be absolutely NO oxidation protection from just blasting it with that flame. Strap it to a piece of zinc or something, sure, but chemistry is chemistry. You can't break or make up new laws of physics.

I could go on and on, but this video made me laugh several times...

:heh: I like the H2 comment as well.

This video is yet another fine example of the state of our nation's problems with math and science education. :2far:

[DaFunkyUnit]

but everyone in Kentucky agrees its very good.

[hapoo]

but everyone in Kentucky agrees its very good.

If everyone in Kentucky decided to jump off a bridge... :hmm: not a bad idea come to think of it. :P

[Houdini]

Heh...and the video kept talking about how the relatively cool flame of HHO could make things instantly many times hotter than the flame itself. If it, say, ignites an exothermic reaction like thermite or something, sure. But a hydrogen torch isn't magic.

And still, it's not a source. You have to use a source to crack the water to begin. Then all you're doing is burning it. I'll admit I'm not sure how one would keep those 3 separate atoms in the same tank. The whole idea is just kind of stupid.

The first minute of the video, with the 2 atoms of oxygen and 1 of hydrogen depicted as making up a water molecule discredited the entire video for me. Still, I wish I had a magic torch like that. ONE THAT PREVENTS RUST! WOW!


houdini! you are uber chem guru!

hydrogen = big boom!

Heh...not so sure I'll take that credit. I do have a chemistry degree lying around somewhere, but my fiancee has a Ph.D in chem. Then again, I haven't spoken to her in a couple of weeks, and I didn't consult her on this post. But it's water dammit!!! :)