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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060527/...NlYwN5bmNhdA--

Man fails to pay for gas; Owner shoots

Fri May 26, 9:28 PM ET

LIVINGSTON, La. - Deputies arrested a store owner accused of shooting out two tires on a customer's vehicle after the customer said he had no money to pay for gasoline, spokesman Jason Ard of the Livingston Parish Sheriffs Office said Thursday.

The motorist had pumped $36.50 worth of gasoline, then discovered he didn't have the money to pay for it, Ard said. An argument with the store owner followed.

When the motorist tried to leave, the grocery store owner fired a shot that hit one of the customer's tires, then fired a second shot into another tire after the driver pulled back into the parking lot, deputies said.

Deputies booked Nardeep S. Bhullar, 25, the owner of Singhs Grocery, with aggravated assault, criminal damage to property and illegal discharge of a firearm.

Deputies also booked Chaz R. Watkins, 18, of Holden with theft of gasoline, Ard said.
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I always thought you had to pay first before you can even pump gas. Oh well...I would have gotten the license plate and have the cops get him later.

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blueindian

lookey here folks, i reckon we got us a city slicker.

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yeah, pretty much we missed the boat on that one. but it's still here. get you some.

VTGreg

It amazes me how stupid people are today. As was said before, all he had to do was right down the license plate number and call the police. On top of that, he probably had video tape with the car as well. Instead, he got arrested and hopefully will end up in jail. He's very lucky no one got injured by the gunfire.

Our court systems need to stop letting people get off easy for this type of crap.

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Houdini

Not sure why they accused the guy of theft of gasoline. I could see myself doing something stupid like that. Filling up and forgetting my wallet, especially at a station that doesn't take cards before pumping. It sounds like it really was unintentional. The argument shouldn't have happened, but people get riled up sometimes. A quick phone call to a friend or something to spot him the money would have been a better route.

Not that this justifies discharging a firearm at ALL. This was stupid, dangerous, and yeah, the gas guy should be booked for everything and forced to pay for the tires/wheels/whatever else he hit. I mean really, the police were going to get involved anyway, right? So to detain the guy, "well, officer, I didn't want him to get away so I illegally brandished a firearm and shot out his tires. i saw that on tv once..." is just stupid.

SnowSurfer

just as a side comment...he must have been a damn good shot to hit both tires at a distance...maybe it was a good thing he got arrested

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AlwayzMarel

It sounds to me he did it intentionally. Gas prices are so high, he tried to get a free ride.

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KIISQueen

All I know is that was bad Karma!!!!!

Jane83

NO free gas in Louisiana!

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Houdini

Heh...it's the BAD shots you want arrested. The GOOD shots tend to hit what they're shooting. The BAD shots tend to hit someone/something else.

For instance, if you're in a gunfight with Deuce McAllister, you're probably pretty safe. If you're NEAR a gunfight with Deuce, you're likely to get killed. I've seen the guy shoot. He has trouble hitting a piece of paper 15 feet from him.

Still, I wonder what the distance was? And how many shots he fired to accomplish the deed. I'd bet many more than 2.

clutchy

sounds like only 2 shots were fired. I'm impressed. I've been trying to a new double shot at the range lately. bam-bam type thing. The shots where i could actually tell where i hit were 8 of 10 on target... pretty bad considering the first is obviously going where it's aimed. So that means 3 of 5 of my second shot completely missed the target...

I also learned that i've been holding the gun wrong... go figure.

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Houdini

Actually, when doing double-tap drills, I've noticed that if I miss one, it's usually the first. I think I'm concentrating too much on the first shot and probably anticipating and compensating too much, knowing that I have to time the recoil. The second shot is pretty automatic as soon as the front site comes back into view.

And, yeah, holding the gun wrong will always screw your shots up.

clutchy

interesting, i'll try with a completely clean target and bring a sighter next time.

i was really surprised, that's how i'd been trained to hold the gun like 15 years ago. Now i have to get used to a new position... on the upside i bought a pack of federal hydro-shok hollow points for home defense... nasty/expensive little bullets. I want to go out and practice with them because they have a higher grain count than the my usual remington 115 grain. I think the federal's are 135 or so, but at $1 a shot it's a little hard to rationalize shooting them for practice. maybe i'll put through a clip or two just to feel the difference...

Houdini

More important, to see if they feed correctly in your weapon EVERY TIME. Otherwise, there's no use for personal defense ammo. There's nothing more useless than an unloaded (or non-functional) gun.

clutchy

an excellent point sir, thanks.

Houdini

No prob. We gun enthusiasts (or at least not-anti-gun people) need to help each other out! Both for safety and for improving skills!

guiseppewv

I got to shoot a couple of fun guns this past wknd: 1) AR-15 and 2) Mossburg Tactical Shotgun.





The 2 weapons I got to use were "scarier" than the ones above thanks to the AWB's expiration.

Houdini

Yup. I hate thumbhole stocks, etc. Stupid AWB. All cosmetic.

clutchy

i think he meant the opposite...

Houdini

Yeah, the AR he pictured had a collapsible stock, etc. Should have noticed that. At any rate, the AWB is gone, so now we can happily load 10+ rounds without spending $75 for a pre-ban mag, and can configure most stocks and other cosmetic/useful features that were banned unnecessarily for 10 years because they looked scary.

guiseppewv

Exactly. 30+ round clips on the guns I was using, even the 9mm. Laser target indicator on the shotgun, scope on the AR-15, flashlight, flash surpressor, etc.... They were really scary looking and they really scared me.

Houdini

It's all about the bayonette lug, man.

I was really worried a year or two ago when the DC area "sniper" was shooting people from the trunk of his car with an AR-15, which the media spun as a civilian version of the M16 (true) but didn't mention that they are SEMI-automatic. They also called the AR-15 a "sniper rifle" and were aghast on on report, when some non-shooter anchor/initerviewer asked a "gun expert" how hard it would be to hit something with an AR from 100 yards. He said that would be pretty easy. That horrified millions. The weapon in question was a Bushmaster without a match heavy barrel or anything. But flashing it on TV scared a lot of people unnecessarily. Strangely, the same people wouldn't see the gun as a big threat if it were a nicely constructed, polished wood stock "pretty" gun that also shot .223 semi-automatically.

In rifle terms, almost ANY rille can allow the user to hit things at 100 yards easily. It's just not that hard, even for newbies because the site radius is so long. If we were talking 1000 yards or 1200 yards, then we're talking sniper terms and real training and skill.

guiseppewv

People are so mislead by the media. They should stop trying to sell the news and sensationalize the news and get back to reporting the news. That goes for EVERY major news station.

100 yds esp if you have a scope is an easy shot. People have no clue and the media doesn't try to help them get one.

As far as the "pretty" gun that fires a .223 - I am sure that it could be fully automatic but people will still think that it is less dangerous than a semi-auto bushmaster.

Houdini

Heh...even without a scope, you should be able to hit an 8" plate or so from 100 yards without any problems. Likely on your 8th or 9th shot, if you've never shot a gun before and have a good instructor. It's just not that far of a distance. Heck, I've shot a Glock 26 (subcompact 9mm) at 8" gongs at 100 yards offhand and can hit - with factory sights - the gong 7/10 times. It just takes the bullet a lot longer to get down there. Then again, that was a year or so ago, and I'm out of practice.

And yep. A Mini-14 shoots .223 and looks much more like everyone's grandfather's rifle, so people wouldn't be as intimidated they would be by the bushie. I've seen several "very pretty" rifles that are chambered in .223 and are much more accurate than your average off the rack bushie. Not that Bushmaster is a bad company, but the rifle can be enhanced with a match barrel, etc., which the "sniper" wasn't using. It's far from being a "sniper rifle" as described in the media, and I bet 60-70% of the people who saw images of it on TV at the time assumed it was a full auto b/c that's what full auto M16s look like in movies. And (carefully not to be too political) what moveon.org's commercial actually TOLD people about the semi-auto AK47 variants in a last minute bid to get people to vote against the sunsetting of the AWB.

For a country that has a long history of weapons, having used them in a revolution to beat the British, etc., the vast majority of Americans (and politicians) are ignorant with respect to anything from gun terminology to gun laws to gun safety. So people use that to their advantage to push stupid agendas that only make it easier to be a victim.

But back on topic, I won't be stealing any gas soon. After Katrina, all along the Gulf Coast there were HUGE lines at gas stations as people filled tanks to run generators and cars and whatever. There were a few shootings and a few altercations even in small cities when one car cut in front of another or similar. For a while, in my hometown in MS, there were 2 Nat'l Guardsmen at each gas station with M16s in slings.

H <---- happy that he can now buy cheap factory full capacity magazines. Less reloading time at the range. That's about the only way the AWB affected us was that we had to stop to reload more often. Criminals can change mags too.