P. T. Barnum LIVES!

mechmike0034 · 04-30-2007, 10:18 AM

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FMS Tire Valve Caps look like a common valve stem cap but contain embedded mineral ions that have a positive effect on tire/brake performance and extended life. FMS also improves overall ride performance and gas or diesel efficiency.

FMS Ion Technology modifies molecular vibration for a positive effect in heat energy & dissipation. Increased gas & diesel economy, improved performance and handling, and extended tire/brake life are among the benefits of using FMS.

It frightens me that there are people stupid enough to buy these...

Napoleon54 · 04-30-2007, 04:12 PM

Is that a joke!?

I posted a question, wondering if seller will respond...

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If I had extra valve stems installed on my rims and thus had, like, 5 of these caps on each tire, would the effect be multiplied? Or if I just glued like a gazillion of them in place all over the car, how many would I need before the car wouldn't need any gas at all?

renovation · 04-30-2007, 09:42 PM

i like to get a set . and see if my neice's barbie hot wheel jeep battery last longer .with a set installed on it .

renovation · 04-30-2007, 11:21 PM

i bet JUDGE JUDY court room will hear the first case of ---
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Daedalus · 05-01-2007, 12:42 AM

F'in
Major
Scam

$70???!!! You have got to be freaking kidding. For that kind of margins you'd think they could throw in free shipping. No shame whatsoever. Wonder if the seller's in Nigeria.

Jeffbx · 05-01-2007, 06:29 AM

Dude, I'm totally getting a set of these for my bicycle. If they can do all of that for a car, just think of the biking benefits! Faster speeds, longer life... why, the possibilities are endless!

mechmike0034 · 05-01-2007, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffbx

Dude, I'm totally getting a set of these for my bicycle. If they can do all of that for a car, just think of the biking benefits! Faster speeds, longer life... why, the possibilities are endless!

Shall we split a set? Two for your bicycle, and two for my motorcycle...

Houdini · 05-01-2007, 08:31 AM

Sounds like the seller (or anyone who buys this crap) needs to have his/her headlight fluid changed.

johnnymk · 05-01-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Houdini

Sounds like the seller (or anyone who buys this crap) needs to have his/her headlight fluid changed.

and his muffler bearings changed.

I remember after the first gasoline shortage in the seventies the number of phony gas saving products they were peddling. And some are still alive and well today.

There was one that actually seemed to work. It was a water injection device which sprayed a small amount of water into the carburetor. I was going to build something myself but never got around to it.

Cheesypuff · 05-01-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Houdini

Sounds like the seller (or anyone who buys this crap) needs to have his/her headlight fluid changed.

we can take out one of the transmissions, you don't need to go in reverse do you?

mechmike0034 · 05-01-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnymk

There was one that actually seemed to work. It was a water injection device which sprayed a small amount of water into the carburetor. I was going to build something myself but never got around to it.

http://stason.org/TULARC/vehicles/ga...n-achieve.html

Water or water-methanol can be effective, but...

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Note that for water injection to provide useful power gains, the engine management and fuel systems must be able to monitor the knock and adjust both stoichiometry and ignition to obtain significant benefits.

The injection by and of itself doesn't increase performance nor fuel mileage. Water injection does permit further tuning which in turn will increase performance and fuel mileage.

WWII-era fighter aircraft used water/methanol injection, as did Oldsmobile in the early 1960s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmob...#Turbo_Jetfire

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In 1962 and 1963 Oldsmobile built a turbocharged version of the 215. The small-diameter turbocharger was manufactured by Garrett AiResearch and produced a maximum of 5 lb (0.34 bar) boost at 2200 rpm. The engine had 10.25:1 compression and a single-barrel carburetor. It was rated at 215 hp (160 kW) @ 4600 rpm and 300 ft·lbf (406 N·m) @ 3200 rpm. The high compression ratio created a serious problem with spark knock on hard throttle applications, which led Olds to use a novel water-injection system that sprayed small amounts of distilled water and methyl alcohol (dubbed "Turbo-Rocket Fluid") into the combustion chambers to cool the intake charge. If the fluid reservoir was empty, the engine's timing would be retarded to avoid engine damage. Unfortunately, many customers did not keep the reservoir filled, or had mechanical problems with the turbocharger plumbing.

Markel · 05-01-2007, 11:20 AM

I remember my Saab mechanic (back in the 80s) mentioning that they were tinkering with a vapor injection system. They would just use windshield washer fluid.

tupacboy · 05-01-2007, 11:39 AM

this is as good as those "chips" they sell on ebay that increases your hp by 8 or something... or the tornado? now it has some other name... basically funnels your air intake which supposedly give you 20 hp and better mileage per gallon... i love these...

04-30-2007, 09:42 PM	#3
renovation Admiral Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: You could pick up Lindsay Lohan for less than a intel 990x, and still have money left over to bail her outta jail Posts: 5,029	i like to get a set . and see if my neice's barbie hot wheel jeep battery last longer .with a set installed on it . __________________ You could pick up Lindsay Lohan for less than a intel 990x, and still have money left over to bail her outta jail

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Markel Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 11,733	I remember my Saab mechanic (back in the 80s) mentioning that they were tinkering with a vapor injection system. They would just use windshield washer fluid. __________________ stay low... keep moving...

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renovation Admiral Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: You could pick up Lindsay Lohan for less than a intel 990x, and still have money left over to bail her outta jail Posts: 5,029	i bet JUDGE JUDY court room will hear the first case of --- Annual $$ Savings Current Fuel Expense $ Savings with Gas Mileage Booster Per Month 15% 20% 25%

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Daedalus Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 824	F'in Major Scam $70???!!! You have got to be freaking kidding. For that kind of margins you'd think they could throw in free shipping. No shame whatsoever. Wonder if the seller's in Nigeria.

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Jeffbx Fleet Admiral Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,390	Dude, I'm totally getting a set of these for my bicycle. If they can do all of that for a car, just think of the biking benefits! Faster speeds, longer life... why, the possibilities are endless!

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Houdini Admiral Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: New Orleans Posts: 5,054	Sounds like the seller (or anyone who buys this crap) needs to have his/her headlight fluid changed.

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tupacboy Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: May 2000 Location: border of oc and la Posts: 2,382	this is as good as those "chips" they sell on ebay that increases your hp by 8 or something... or the tornado? now it has some other name... basically funnels your air intake which supposedly give you 20 hp and better mileage per gallon... i love these...

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