Jeffbx

Aaaaand the 2008 North American International Auto Show Car of the Year (NAIAS - COTY) is:

2008 Chevy Malibu (shocked silence)

Yes, GM beat out a long list of nominees:

Audi TT
Audi A5/S5
Cadillac CTS
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Grand Caravan
Honda Accord
Infiniti G37
Infiniti EX35
Mercedes-Benz C-Class
Nissan Altima Coupe
Scion xB
Smart ForTwo
Subaru Impreza/WRX
Volvo C30

Finalists were the Cadillac CTS, Honda Accord & Malibu.

Oddly, this is the same chassis that won last year - the 2007 car of the year was the Saturn Aura, which is almost identical to this year's Malibu.

It's surprising to me that they put this car into the Malibu nameplate (since past Malibus are absolute crap), but not at all surprising that it won. The list of standard features is simply incredible for the price - comparing features, it actually competes more against the luxury Japanese brands than the Camry/Accord.

If you're in the market, I'd recommend you drive one. They're shockingly impressive for a Chevy.

Prngr44

Interesting... with a kid on the way and me driving a Ford Ranger I'll be in the market for a sedan of some sort in the next few months. I was leaning towards something smaller and 4 door like the 3, but I guess I ought to check out the Malibu since it's really not that much more.

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MrGreg

No manual tranny option means I wouldn't give it a second look.

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Jeffbx

It has a 6-speed automatic with manual paddle shifters on the steering wheel. Well, the 252HP LTZ does - rumor is that they may include this on the 4cyl as well.

MrGreg

My left foot would just feel too unappreciated.

Jeffbx

I hear ya - I wish more manufacturers would still offer manual transmissions on 'regular' cars, but it looks like they're reserved now for sports cars, trucks & very entry level vehicles.

DarkFury

Pretty much, "stick shifts" are really only valued by sports enthusiasts and budget minded folks these days.

Also... having a stick in a car even reduces the resale value, which further prevents most manufactuers from producing alot of of them (due to decreased demand).


Honestly, I agree that it suck. People should learn to be able to drive both... just in case you are in an emergency and have to drive a stick. My first and second cars were both sticks... and not sports cars, but alas, they are a dying breed.

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johnnymk

My sister tried to unload a two year old Camry a couple of years ago which had a manual tranny. She practically gave it away to a local dealer. I think that only 5% of cars sold in America are equipped with manual transmissions.

I love driving them, but can't stand them in traffic. Plus I am hard on clutches, which mean the pressure plate, clutch and throwout bearing must be replaced often.

renovation

after you have them for 4-5 years and driving all the time in city driving you tend to get tired of the manual. my wife loves her Saturn Vue but the next one she wants a automatic.and she has had 80% of her cars from the mid 1970s all sticks from VW's to full size vans most have been sticks . and we have bought most of these brand new. the only automatic we have bought new with automatic trans have been .from 1986 Buick Summerset,1993 e-150 ford conversion van .and most of my work trucks. the work trucks due to employees driving them .
but for us i think its time to go 100 automatic now .were tired of all the shifting and with them making 6 speed trans thats a lot of extra shifting to. but i still agree if its a true sports car i'll only buy a stick

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ArkiStan

I can never get tired of stick shift. After years and years it has never felt like a chore. It is the only way I feel like I'm truly "driving" the car. I wish more cars offered it as an option. I agree though. It's not for everybody.

SteveB

Get tired of a stick shift? Mot me. I've never owned a car with an automatic. Well, OK, I did have a '51 Desoto that had what I think they called Fluid Drive. You could use it as an auto or manual. I guess it was advanced for the day.

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Kevster

I'll never be tired of a stick shift, especially since I have to drive my wife's Honda Accord which has auto and it's extremely annoying. I know when I want power and need to shift, and the auto transmission just doesn't do it for me.

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guiseppewv

I agree with those of you who said the manual transmission is the way to go. I love mine but sometimes in bumper to bumper DC traffic it is a little annoying. Added bonus: Only a small percentage of women can drive a manual transimission vehicle, so I never have to let them drive my vehicles.

Kevster

I think the biggest thing for me about manual transmission is that where I live and where I drive often there are a LOT of hills, meaning I upshift a LOT. Auto transmissions just don't cut it for me, especially in those situations.

cheapie

a new malibu drove by the other day and it certainly caught my eye. i couldn't believe it was a chevy malibu.

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ray

I would still never buy an American car. Winning a couple awards doesn't change the quality, reputation, and service failures they have had in the past. If they sustain this trend for another few years then I may change my mind on the issue.

guiseppewv

I know the Malibu has great reviews but it would have to have a great track record for reliability before I would start to consider an American vehicle again.


Do you mean downshift?

DarkFury

There still a few American cars that can be trusted.

I own one...

Jeffbx

Why look at the past? In the past, Japanese cars were the crappiest little boxes ever created. Then they got better.

Of course I'm biased because of where I live, but believe me - domestic nameplates are way, WAY better than they were back in the 80s & 90s. Go test drive one; you don't have to buy it.

cheapie

i've been very happy with my charger. i've really only had two things go wrong with it in 50k miles. the little plastic covers that go over the child seat latches came off.

and, ummmm, the timing belt came loose. thank God it's a company car because it was out of warranty. i guess that's not the best testimonial, is it?

guiseppewv

I agree they are way, WAY better than they were then but they are still way behind the curve. Now they are mid pack instead of bottom feeders in the reliability field.

Jeffbx

I humbly disagree..

5 of the top 10 (including 3 of the top 4) are domestic nameplates:

1. Buick
2. Lexus
3. Cadillac
4. Mercury
5. Honda
6. Toyota
7. BMW
8. Lincoln
9. Subaru
10. Oldsmobile

This is from the J.D. Power 2007 Vehicle Dependability Report, which tracks long term vehicle dependability.

cheapie

very interesting. wouldn't have guessed it.

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guiseppewv

Ok, if a Buick Regal or Park Avenue are what you want, go for it!

I disagree with some of those ratings because they do not associate a year with the models. Reliability changes year to year. The Furd Ranger is a turd from the late 90s and early 00s but it is rated as the best in it's category. The Lexus IS300 has not been in production in over 2 years.

guiseppewv

Jeffbx

Well, yeah but that's because they're comparing average long term dependability. Heck, Oldsmobile doesn't even exist anymore & they made the list.

My point is that domestic nameplates are every bit as reliable as Japanese & European brands over the long haul, despite the poor image that seems to be lingering with them.

I'm just asking that you not dismiss them based on their reliability 20 years ago. If anyone is in the market, take one for a spin & you might be surprised.

renovation

wait a min. gm stop making Oldsmobile a couple years back . this list can't be right or a miss print .

DarkFury

It's a "long term" test... not a test of new models.

They must've started this test over 4 years ago.

Prngr44

The only thing that went bad on my "Furd" Ranger was a horn that decided one tone was better than a blend of 3, and a poorly installed passenger window (F you to the bum who smashed it) led to a power window motor going bad.

I'm still waiting for my cruise control to explode because I haven't taken the time to get that recall fixed.