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Why I will stop flying
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...bodyscan_N.htm
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It's not that I'm shy. It's that security beliefs in this country will stop at no bounds with respect to privacy. There are always going to be ways to get around these scanners and they don't effectively do anything for security. Screw you, TSA. The airlines are having a hard enough time getting revenue and now you pull this.
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Not to justify the other side but seriously, it's just an xray basically and an ugly one at that. It'll help defeat the most basic of smuggling (drugs included) and the fact it's even there is a barricade for bad guys. Sorry, vocabulary is struggling this morning.
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I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this, I mean I guess it "invades" privacy, but it's not as if the image is being displayed for all to see. Just a TSA Agent with his Blue Rubber gloves..
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I think the invasion of privacy speaks for itself. You really want your family members ogled? I don't really want an X-ray either. As if I don't get enough radiation. I'm sure the next invasion of privacy will only be a bit worse than this.
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My understanding is that the scanners can be defeated by rubber and skin like material, so you'll be able to hide a gun in a fake muscle. |
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because keeping my ugly testicles to myself, now that would be letting the terrorists win.
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Eh - scan me. And if I get any funny looks? "It's cold! Shrinkage!"
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You also cool with your future wife and kids getting scanned? |
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if it help protect me while flying im all for it.
and if someone wants to a picture of my body they can have it. and in short amount of time this be just the normal to all of us.right now its new so your thinking about.after the first time or two you wont think twice about it. i fly all the time and only maybe 2 or 3 times had to given extra screening and thats no big thing .i have nothing to hide and it just that i was the lucky one to be picked. and my bags 3/4 times when i get them back they have a note in them saying they were checked ( inspected ). get a life 9/11 changed it for all of us.
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That's the worrying part. It will be the norm and then they'll come out with something else and that will be the norm. 9/11 isn't a free pass for invasion of privacy. We all have to die someday. If you die due to terrorism, at least you died free.
Lastly, for reasons I already mentioned, it is unlikely to make you safer. Last edited by InfiniteNothing : 06-08-2008 at 01:00 AM. |
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funny - i would pick other reasons to stop flying...like:
1) airlines not understanding what customer service is 2) treating us like cattle 3) charging us for everything above and beyond our tickets - luggage, food, entertainment, booking fees, change fees, slightly better tickets. Soon they'll be charging us for oxygen or something 4) incredibly high ticket prices to begin with 5) flight delays - it's almost seems like an on-time flight is a novelty. |
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![]() This mentality, when allowed to run rampant, will never stop. 20 years down the road when some $10 an hour lackey is putting his finger up your butt looking for explosives, I want to hear you all say "...well, if it keeps me safe..." You invent a security measure, the ones that want to take advantage of it will just find a new hole to exploit. That's the nature of the beast and stupid crap like this is addressing symptoms instead of the underlying problem. ![]() |
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i'm all for it...i wanna be the one looking at the screen! BOOBIES!!!
no...but seriously...I just don't know how comfortable i would be to have a person in another room look at me (or wife/girlfriend) yummy parts. ehh...embolden the terrorist!
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if i wore aluminum, would i throw sparks?
even better, i'll ask for copies of the xrays and send them to my physician. i'll save a bundle. Last edited by mojo : 06-09-2008 at 11:34 AM. |
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QFT! flew today from dtw to pdx. moo. moo.
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Found my new favorite term: Security theater - the facade that we jump through to make us feel "safe"
Example: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/06/10/0057202.shtml Quote:
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Meh, the person looking at the X-Rays never see the actual person going through it at any stage of the process. They don't know what I look like, and I don't know what the man behind the closed door looks like.
Yeah, it sucks that our privacy is not a concern anymore, but unfortunately I will still need to fly a few times a year. |
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I'm willing to bet that no matter what gwilks says, or anyone else, that it doesn't really make anyone STOP FLYING. If you have a choice.. "Drive to Florida from California, Ride a Bus, or Fly" unless there is some reason you need to drive, IE Moving. You will most likely want to fly.
And will, because its easier. |
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You're forgetting an option: don't travel. You can always vacation locally. Probably better for the environment too.
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Rear Admiral Upper Half
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Yeah, and that really does stay true to the meaning of vacations. ![]() |
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Most people take vacations to get away. Depending on where you live you may have more options locally but you can only take so many local vacations before you exhaust the options. The majority of people will continue to fly because it is easier. Some will choose not to but that will be a small minority. If you're willing to change where you take vacations or drive long distances instead of getting an x-ray screening, all the power to you.
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