Shoe's New Cobra

shoeish · 11-14-2001, 08:34 AM

http://www.geocities.com/shoeish/

470hp @ rear wheels, drives like its stock around town.

11-14-2001, 08:54 AM

nice

[shudder]american rear wheel drive[/shudder] be careful

i know im probably gonna get flamed, but thats how i feel about it and more than half the people i know who have (or have had) rear wheel american cars feel

shoeish · 11-14-2001, 09:06 AM

Don't think I still wouldn't mind a new M3 or 996 turbo.

Pulled up next to this at a gas station on my way home to Laramie, WY from Dallas, TX with the car.

http://www.geocities.com/shoeish/porsche.jpg
yes, it is a turbo.

Apex · 11-14-2001, 11:05 AM

Nice! That's the thing about american cars. Plenty of displacement and plenty of available mods. Must be a monster!

ribitch · 11-14-2001, 11:05 AM

I am a diehard ford fan. Great car. Check out the 10 liter they have at the ford svt website. Killer car.

My dad has a 70 Mach 1. Its a 428 with the shaker hood. Good do i miss the "real" ramair cars. We need more people like you on this board. There is too many BMW and VW lovers.

Theres nothing wrong with german cars, but the american muscle is still king.

spigidygak · 11-14-2001, 12:58 PM

w00t, God Bless America for making big american block engines

Balance? What? Bah, who cares when you got that much testosterone pumping through.

shoeish · 11-14-2001, 02:21 PM

It only oversteers a bit...

The quickness of the turn in beats the snot out of my Countour SE. With road race tires I'm sure it will be a pleasure to drive at an autocross.

If only the bloody nvidia WDM drivers would work with Windows XP... I would digitize some autocross video I have of me in the contour.

BrewMaster · 11-14-2001, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ribitch

Theres nothing wrong with german cars, but the american muscle is still king.

Yeah, I love driving American muscle, but I can't afford to own any.

spigidygak · 11-14-2001, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shoeish
It only oversteers a bit...

Your last words you will be known for when we hear that you punched the gas a lil' too soon out of a corner. . .

11-14-2001, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spigidygak
Your last words you will be known for when we hear that you punched the gas a lil' too soon out of a corner. . .

that wont be too much fun. you could probably fix it with some new tires and some better shocks. maybe some crossbars might help with stability

shoeish · 11-15-2001, 04:59 PM

I meant power on oversteer, not just around town.

It has kenny brown strut tower braces front and rear, fully adjustable koni road race struts all around, and ford motorsport progressive rate springs.

It handles great, it just gets a little wild with some throttle. In fact, I can't wait until next summer for autocross.

johnnymk · 11-15-2001, 08:22 PM

Mustangs that I love:

65-66 Fastback, especially Shelbys
69-70 Mach 1
79 Pace Car
I can't get too excited about any of the other ones. I especially disliked the Mustang II, the current version and the previous version, which looked like a Mustang II on steroids. And all of the other Shelbys were too large . If they don't get serious about style, they are going to go the same route as the Firebird and Camaro.

OC · 11-16-2001, 08:38 PM

All this talk makes me think of the 1987-ish Firebird I want to build. I'm shifting gears with the plan for the engine. So far it's looking like roughly 550 hp....

-OC

spigidygak · 11-16-2001, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by overclocked
All this talk makes me think of the 1987-ish Firebird I want to build. I'm shifting gears with the plan for the engine. So far it's looking like roughly 550 hp....

-OC

550hp

How much torque?

OC · 11-16-2001, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spigidygak

550hp How much torque?

620-ish

-OC

shoeish · 11-16-2001, 11:08 PM

435 peak torque @ the rear wheels.
470 peak HP @ the rear wheels.

BrewMaster · 11-22-2001, 12:34 PM

[homer] mmmmm...power...[/homer]

OC · 11-22-2001, 11:18 PM

Ok - revised plan. Understand that my premise here is "too much is just enough".

A 415 small block Chevy with a Bill Bitchell block, Scat crank, Edelbrock E-Tec heads, MiniRam III from TPIS using SDS EFI, and 4L80E tranny. Numbers show 391hp and 451tq. This is Stage One.

Stage Two calls for a single intercooled turbo with 10-ish lbs of boost. That should take it to about 657hp and 757tq. That's why the 4L80E and not the 4L60 - the 4L60 would be torn to pieces.

CarTest shows 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and the 1/4 mile in 11.5 @ 130.4.

Golly.

-OC

spigidygak · 11-23-2001, 06:51 PM

Oh god. . . 3.2 seconds yet it can't do the quarter under 10?

johnnymk · 11-24-2001, 07:59 AM

What rear axle ratio? 1/4 Mile times are heavily dependent on Size of tires and rear axle ratio.
Also, most horsepower and torque ratings are at the flywheel; they are rarely at the tires/wheels. You would be surprised at the MAJOR reduction at the rear tires when put on a dynamometer.!

OC · 11-24-2001, 11:27 AM

Those acceleration numbers assume a 7000 rpm redline and a 2.8:1 rear end - with these I can actually hit 60mph in 1st gear. Also, this is running a turbo, so there's no boost umntil about 15mph or so from a full stop. This significantly helps the 0-60 time. When the shift into 2nd occurs, the engine rpms drop back down into a range where more torque is being made, and the tires go up in smoke - hence the extra time for the 1/4 mile.

This is a street vehicle, not a race car, so no slicks for me. Slicks would of course help harness much more power on the 1-2 shift, which would help the 1/4 mile time.

Since this thread is now way off topic, i'm going to add my posts to my own Project Firebird thread.

-OC

Burzhui · 11-24-2001, 04:44 PM

Dude congrats, that's a hot ride

Burzhui · 11-27-2001, 02:50 PM

Shoe, if not a secret, how much did you shell out for this baby

shoeish · 11-27-2001, 05:36 PM

$15,000

natem02 · 11-28-2001, 08:28 PM

Nice sleeper, it'll fool a couple SS Camaro and WS6 Trans Am drivers who are used to smoking Cobras, I also can't think of any European imports that would give it any trouble in a stoplight to stoplight drag, short of a 550 Marenello(sp).

11-14-2001, 08:34 AM	#1
shoeish Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WYOMING Posts: 532	Shoe's New Cobra http://www.geocities.com/shoeish/ 470hp @ rear wheels, drives like its stock around town. __________________ Shoe 2003 BMW M3 2008 BMW 335i hardtop convertible w/ Dinan Stage 2 2008 Toyota Tundra Extended Cab 4x4 5.7 Horsepower is fun.

11-14-2001, 09:06 AM	#3
shoeish Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WYOMING Posts: 532	Don't think I still wouldn't mind a new M3 or 996 turbo. Pulled up next to this at a gas station on my way home to Laramie, WY from Dallas, TX with the car. http://www.geocities.com/shoeish/porsche.jpg yes, it is a turbo. Last edited by shoeish : 11-14-2001 at 12:04 PM.

11-14-2001, 11:05 AM	#5
ribitch Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,672	American Muscle Rules I am a diehard ford fan. Great car. Check out the 10 liter they have at the ford svt website. Killer car. My dad has a 70 Mach 1. Its a 428 with the shaker hood. Good do i miss the "real" ramair cars. We need more people like you on this board. There is too many BMW and VW lovers. Theres nothing wrong with german cars, but the american muscle is still king. __________________ http://ribitch.com/ipod.html

11-14-2001, 12:58 PM	#6
spigidygak Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: Redlands & San Diego, CA. Posts: 5,882	w00t, God Bless America for making big american block engines Balance? What? Bah, who cares when you got that much testosterone pumping through. __________________

11-16-2001, 08:38 PM	#13
OC the admiral formerly known as overclocked Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Outside the mainstream Posts: 5,922	All this talk makes me think of the 1987-ish Firebird I want to build. I'm shifting gears with the plan for the engine. So far it's looking like roughly 550 hp.... -OC __________________ But what is adulthood except a delayed end-run around our parents' better judgment? -- Peter Egan cough

11-14-2001, 08:54 AM	#2
TommyBoomfiger Posts: n/a	nice [shudder]american rear wheel drive[/shudder] be careful i know im probably gonna get flamed, but thats how i feel about it and more than half the people i know who have (or have had) rear wheel american cars feel

11-14-2001, 11:05 AM	#4
Apex Can you hear me now? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Here Posts: 5,506	Nice! That's the thing about american cars. Plenty of displacement and plenty of available mods. Must be a monster!

11-14-2001, 02:21 PM	#7
shoeish Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WYOMING Posts: 532	It only oversteers a bit... The quickness of the turn in beats the snot out of my Countour SE. With road race tires I'm sure it will be a pleasure to drive at an autocross. If only the bloody nvidia WDM drivers would work with Windows XP... I would digitize some autocross video I have of me in the contour.

11-15-2001, 04:59 PM	#11
shoeish Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WYOMING Posts: 532	I meant power on oversteer, not just around town. It has kenny brown strut tower braces front and rear, fully adjustable koni road race struts all around, and ford motorsport progressive rate springs. It handles great, it just gets a little wild with some throttle. In fact, I can't wait until next summer for autocross.

11-15-2001, 08:22 PM	#12
johnnymk Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: May 2000 Location: LEVITTOWN< PA> USA Posts: 13,621	Mustangs that I love: 65-66 Fastback, especially Shelbys 69-70 Mach 1 79 Pace Car I can't get too excited about any of the other ones. I especially disliked the Mustang II, the current version and the previous version, which looked like a Mustang II on steroids. And all of the other Shelbys were too large . If they don't get serious about style, they are going to go the same route as the Firebird and Camaro.

11-16-2001, 11:08 PM	#16
shoeish Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WYOMING Posts: 532	435 peak torque @ the rear wheels. 470 peak HP @ the rear wheels.

11-22-2001, 12:34 PM	#17
BrewMaster Ruler-Of-All-Things-Beer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 10,249	[homer] mmmmm...power...[/homer]

11-22-2001, 11:18 PM	#18
OC the admiral formerly known as overclocked Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Outside the mainstream Posts: 5,922	Ok - revised plan. Understand that my premise here is "too much is just enough". A 415 small block Chevy with a Bill Bitchell block, Scat crank, Edelbrock E-Tec heads, MiniRam III from TPIS using SDS EFI, and 4L80E tranny. Numbers show 391hp and 451tq. This is Stage One. Stage Two calls for a single intercooled turbo with 10-ish lbs of boost. That should take it to about 657hp and 757tq. That's why the 4L80E and not the 4L60 - the 4L60 would be torn to pieces. CarTest shows 0-60 in 3.2 seconds, and the 1/4 mile in 11.5 @ 130.4. Golly. -OC

11-23-2001, 06:51 PM	#19
spigidygak Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: Redlands & San Diego, CA. Posts: 5,882	Oh god. . . 3.2 seconds yet it can't do the quarter under 10?

11-24-2001, 07:59 AM	#20
johnnymk Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: May 2000 Location: LEVITTOWN< PA> USA Posts: 13,621	What rear axle ratio? 1/4 Mile times are heavily dependent on Size of tires and rear axle ratio. Also, most horsepower and torque ratings are at the flywheel; they are rarely at the tires/wheels. You would be surprised at the MAJOR reduction at the rear tires when put on a dynamometer.!

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11-24-2001, 11:27 AM	#21
OC the admiral formerly known as overclocked Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Outside the mainstream Posts: 5,922	Those acceleration numbers assume a 7000 rpm redline and a 2.8:1 rear end - with these I can actually hit 60mph in 1st gear. Also, this is running a turbo, so there's no boost umntil about 15mph or so from a full stop. This significantly helps the 0-60 time. When the shift into 2nd occurs, the engine rpms drop back down into a range where more torque is being made, and the tires go up in smoke - hence the extra time for the 1/4 mile. This is a street vehicle, not a race car, so no slicks for me. Slicks would of course help harness much more power on the 1-2 shift, which would help the 1/4 mile time. Since this thread is now way off topic, i'm going to add my posts to my own Project Firebird thread. -OC

11-24-2001, 04:44 PM	#22
Burzhui hot in velour pants Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: New York City Posts: 9,198	Dude congrats, that's a hot ride __________________ ____________________ IF A FAT GIRL FALLS IN THE WOODS DO THE TREES LAUGH?

11-27-2001, 02:50 PM	#23
Burzhui hot in velour pants Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: New York City Posts: 9,198	Shoe, if not a secret, how much did you shell out for this baby

11-27-2001, 05:36 PM	#24
shoeish Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: WYOMING Posts: 532	$15,000

11-28-2001, 08:28 PM	#25
natem02 Ensign Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10	Nice sleeper, it'll fool a couple SS Camaro and WS6 Trans Am drivers who are used to smoking Cobras, I also can't think of any European imports that would give it any trouble in a stoplight to stoplight drag, short of a 550 Marenello(sp).

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