Thoughts on the New Z

Maarchk · 08-21-2003, 02:18 PM

I am looking at a new car... Trying not to spend to much.. but i might go crazy and get the new z... it would be the basic model... i am thinking black and manual and no spoiler, cause it looks pretty bad i would say.
any thoughts for cars that cost and less?
other thoughts were the eclipse, but i heard it handles poorly.. or maybe an acura.

Just curious what people are happy with and not happy with.

Merlin · 08-21-2003, 03:31 PM

What are we talking about here? A BMW Z3? A BMW Z4? A BMW Z8?

ray · 08-21-2003, 03:34 PM

are we talking about the nissan 350z?

InfiniteNothing · 08-21-2003, 04:04 PM

Z is a registered trademark of nissan

Jeffbx · 08-21-2003, 04:20 PM

Oh yeah... that's a good choice.

bachviet · 08-21-2003, 04:51 PM

I like the G35C better than the 350Z.

kimchicowboy · 08-21-2003, 05:17 PM

doens't the 350z have a little more power though? the Z is meant to be a sports car anyhow.

look_ma · 08-21-2003, 06:17 PM

240z = best Z ever made.

the 350z is some what over-rated. If you are looking for performance, get something else. If you can wait, there are rumors that they are going to release a turbo 350z. Don't forget that you can pick-up a 1991 or later 300zx twin-turbo for under $10,000.

Kebbies · 08-21-2003, 06:26 PM

350Z and G35 coupe have the same engine & power output, just that the G coupe is heavier due to luxury additions (and the little bench for a backseat), which kinda slows it down a lil.

for other choices besides the Z, why not check out what we chose in the "what would u buy" thread, maarchk? :-)

~~Cantacuzene~~ · 08-21-2003, 06:29 PM

I like the G35, but 350z track edition is quite nice.

bachviet · 08-21-2003, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
I like the G35, but 350z track edition is quite nice.

$34K is quite a bit of money for the track edition.

The G35C only has 280 hp comparing to 285 hp as in the 350Z. The G35C is heavier but it's more luxurious and the Infinity service is excellent while Nissan service ranks last in the industries.

Apex · 08-21-2003, 10:18 PM

The G35c also comes with better tires, so it tends to have better lateral grip (that's why the difference in the road tests).

Black Z in manual. Very classy.

Ladogaboy · 08-22-2003, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bachviet

$34K is quite a bit of money for the track edition.

Cut off about $4K and get the performance version. You'll only be missing an ugly-ass spoiler and breaks.

guiseppewv · 08-22-2003, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kebbies
350Z and G35 coupe have the same engine & power output, just that the G coupe is heavier due to luxury additions (and the little bench for a backseat), which kinda slows it down a lil.

for other choices besides the Z, why not check out what we chose in the "what would u buy" thread, maarchk? :-)

They do have the same engine but the engine in the Z is in a different state of tune. Here are the specs:

G35 Coupe:
Horsepower 280 @ 6,200 RPM
Torque 270 lb-ft @ 4,800 RPM

Curb weight:
Base model 3,416 lbs
Leather model 3,422 lbs
Leather 6MT model 3,435 lbs

Z:
Horsepower: 287 hp @ 6,200 rpm
Power: 274 lb-ft @ 4,800 rpm

Curb Weight:
Varies from 3,188 to 3,479 depending on if you get an auto tranny, the touring pkg, the performance pkg, etc....

Jeffbx · 08-22-2003, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bachviet

...while Nissan service ranks last in the industries.

Is that true? Even worse than domestic mfrs?

palayah8ta · 08-22-2003, 12:33 PM

I dont know about u guyz, but i hate the way the 350Z inside looks and feels cheap. The door handles, door panels are all cheap looking plastic. Im thinking its probably for weight reduction, but i wouldnt dump out $30k for a plastic lined car.
My brother almost bought a 350z, but he picked up a Manual 2001 BMW 330ci, for $25k, the car had 14k miles on it.

Or Mazda Rx8!!!!
2004 Mazda Rx8

Ive sat in this beauty, and i really really want one. Too bad im a broke college student. When they say room for 4adults, they dont lie. Sporty and practical.

rasetsu · 08-22-2003, 01:02 PM

I think the largest issue of concern would be the cost of insurance for the Z. A G35 will cost a lot more than a base Z. The Z still turns heads even here in So Cal. I haven't heard anything about a boosted Z, but GReddy already has a twin turbo kit for it that should be CARB certified soon. I wouldn't worry too much about Nissan's poor service reputation as that car shouldn't be in the shop much anyways.

rasetsu · 08-22-2003, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by palayah8ta
I dont know about u guyz, but i hate the way the 350Z inside looks and feels cheap. The door handles, door panels are all cheap looking plastic. Im thinking its probably for weight reduction, but i wouldnt dump out $30k for a plastic lined car.
My brother almost bought a 350z, but he picked up a Manual 2001 BMW 330ci, for $25k, the car had 14k miles on it.

Nissan had to keep the price down somewhere when they're offering a 287hp motor and sleek styling for under $30K.

I would take a new Z over a 2001 3 series any day. How many horses does the 330 put out anyways?

palayah8ta · 08-23-2003, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rasetsu

Nissan had to keep the price down somewhere when they're offering a 287hp motor and sleek styling for under $30K.

I would take a new Z over a 2001 3 series any day. How many horses does the 330 put out anyways?

THe 330ci, is 225-245 hp. Im Not %100 sure which one. But ive been in both of these cars, and i can say that the 330ci pulls a lot harder. And u really cant compare to the ultimate driving machine. O and u cant put anyone in the back of ur Z.

~~Cantacuzene~~ · 08-23-2003, 12:26 AM

It does seem that BMW horsepower is better than others. It just seems more efficent.

Apex · 08-23-2003, 01:15 AM

The 330ci puts out 225hp at 5900rpm, and 214lb/ft torque at 3500rpm.

palayah8ta · 08-23-2003, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Apex
The 330ci puts out 225hp at 5900rpm, and 214lb/ft torque at 3500rpm.

Yea but for the money your getting a BMW, sounds a lot better than a fast nissan.

kimchicowboy · 08-23-2003, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by palayah8ta

Yea but for the money your getting a BMW, sounds a lot better than a fast nissan.

i guess it depends on what you want. my roommate was looking solely at a BMW 325i and Audi A4 CVT. he decided one day to try out the G35c just for kicks and now he's driving it. i came down with him from SF (which was the only place in CA that had the exact model he wanted) and that car is SWEET. i could have gotten a BMW, but the bang for buck G35c was what he wanted. 280 HP! and it drives so sweet.

Apex · 08-23-2003, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by palayah8ta

Yea but for the money your getting a BMW, sounds a lot better than a fast nissan.

It really does depend. As you mentioned, some people are more concerned about the blingbling than performance. Each buyer has his or her own set of values.

palayah8ta · 08-24-2003, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Apex

It really does depend. As you mentioned, some people are more concerned about the blingbling than performance. Each buyer has his or her own set of values.

Ur right, but i dont think over all the Z is that much faster than a 330ci. Anyone know the 1/4 Mile Time of the 350z?

Apex · 08-24-2003, 03:32 AM

R&T:

Z:
5.6 seconds 0-60
14.3 seconds at 99.4mph in the quarter

330ci:
6.2 seconds 0-60
14.8 seconds at 95.4mph in the quarter

C&D:
Z:
5.4 seconds 0-60
14.1 seconds at 101mph in the quarter

330ci:
6.4 seconds 0-60
? seconds at ?mph in the quarter

Automobile:
Z:
5.5 seconds 0-60
14.1 seconds at 101mph in the quarter

330ci:
7.0 seconds 0-60
15.3 seconds at ?mph in the quarter

None of those tests were head to head though, so they're kind of a poor comparison. Track conditions, temperature, pressure, humidity, drivers, launch policies, and loads of other variables can change those times.

I've driven a few 330's though, very disappointing; even slower than my MR2.

palayah8ta · 08-24-2003, 02:11 PM

Wow ur informative. Im guessing the 1 second time diff is due to heavyness of the 330's luxury.

Ladogaboy · 08-24-2003, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by palayah8ta

Yea but for the money your getting a BMW, sounds a lot better than a fast nissan.

I would take a Z or G35 over a 330 any day of the week.

Jihforce · 08-25-2003, 10:02 AM

Nothing drives like a BMW...but then again, nothing drives like G35 coupe with 280hp underneath that hood

As much as I like BMWs, I'd take the G35 coupe because is thousands cheaper. I do like the BMWs interior better. Definitively more plush, BUT I'd be willing to sacrifice that for some solid performance.
I'm wouldn't mind the Z, but its just not very practical.

rasetsu · 08-25-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by palayah8ta

Yea but for the money your getting a BMW, sounds a lot better than a fast nissan.

Personally, I couldn't care less which name sounds better. To me, the exhaust note of the Z sounds better. I have a WRX STi as my wallpaper on my laptop and people at school always asks me what kind of car it is. I tell them it's a Subaru and they give me a funny look. Do I care and change my wallpaper to a BMW or a MB? No, because I know what that bad boy is capable of.

08-21-2003, 02:18 PM	#1
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Merlin Admiral Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Square On My Arse Posts: 7,410	What are we talking about here? A BMW Z3? A BMW Z4? A BMW Z8? __________________

08-21-2003, 06:26 PM	#9
Kebbies Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: wooky-nor-cali Posts: 208	350Z and G35 coupe have the same engine & power output, just that the G coupe is heavier due to luxury additions (and the little bench for a backseat), which kinda slows it down a lil. for other choices besides the Z, why not check out what we chose in the "what would u buy" thread, maarchk? :-) __________________ "jimmy's mandating that i go on a diet! gil, i've been thrice divorced; i've already shed enough ugly fat in this lifetime." ~warren the ape

08-22-2003, 12:33 PM	#16
palayah8ta Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So Pasadena Posts: 423	I dont know about u guyz, but i hate the way the 350Z inside looks and feels cheap. The door handles, door panels are all cheap looking plastic. Im thinking its probably for weight reduction, but i wouldnt dump out $30k for a plastic lined car. My brother almost bought a 350z, but he picked up a Manual 2001 BMW 330ci, for $25k, the car had 14k miles on it. Or Mazda Rx8!!!! 2004 Mazda Rx8 Ive sat in this beauty, and i really really want one. Too bad im a broke college student. When they say room for 4adults, they dont lie. Sporty and practical. __________________ George Dubya Quotes: "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." -Reuters, May 5, 2000 "They misunderestimated me." -Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

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08-21-2003, 03:34 PM	#3
ray captain awesome Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,054	are we talking about the nissan 350z?

08-21-2003, 04:04 PM	#4
InfiniteNothing Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 10,086	Z is a registered trademark of nissan

08-21-2003, 04:20 PM	#5
Jeffbx Fleet Admiral Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,390	Oh yeah... that's a good choice.

08-21-2003, 04:51 PM	#6
bachviet What's Da Pho*? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SoCal (714) Posts: 13,296	I like the G35C better than the 350Z.

08-21-2003, 05:17 PM	#7
kimchicowboy Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: in the middle of the pacific ocean Posts: 5,344	doens't the 350z have a little more power though? the Z is meant to be a sports car anyhow.

08-21-2003, 06:17 PM	#8
look_ma Captain Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Austin Posts: 1,660	240z = best Z ever made. the 350z is some what over-rated. If you are looking for performance, get something else. If you can wait, there are rumors that they are going to release a turbo 350z. Don't forget that you can pick-up a 1991 or later 300zx twin-turbo for under $10,000.

08-21-2003, 06:29 PM	#10
~~Cantacuzene~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 8,700	I like the G35, but 350z track edition is quite nice.

08-21-2003, 10:18 PM	#12
Apex Can you hear me now? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Here Posts: 5,506	The G35c also comes with better tires, so it tends to have better lateral grip (that's why the difference in the road tests). Black Z in manual. Very classy.

08-22-2003, 01:02 PM	#17
rasetsu Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 529	I think the largest issue of concern would be the cost of insurance for the Z. A G35 will cost a lot more than a base Z. The Z still turns heads even here in So Cal. I haven't heard anything about a boosted Z, but GReddy already has a twin turbo kit for it that should be CARB certified soon. I wouldn't worry too much about Nissan's poor service reputation as that car shouldn't be in the shop much anyways.

08-23-2003, 12:26 AM	#20
~~Cantacuzene~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 8,700	It does seem that BMW horsepower is better than others. It just seems more efficent.

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08-23-2003, 01:15 AM	#21
Apex Can you hear me now? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Here Posts: 5,506	The 330ci puts out 225hp at 5900rpm, and 214lb/ft torque at 3500rpm.

08-24-2003, 03:32 AM	#26
Apex Can you hear me now? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Here Posts: 5,506	R&T: Z: 5.6 seconds 0-60 14.3 seconds at 99.4mph in the quarter 330ci: 6.2 seconds 0-60 14.8 seconds at 95.4mph in the quarter C&D: Z: 5.4 seconds 0-60 14.1 seconds at 101mph in the quarter 330ci: 6.4 seconds 0-60 ? seconds at ?mph in the quarter Automobile: Z: 5.5 seconds 0-60 14.1 seconds at 101mph in the quarter 330ci: 7.0 seconds 0-60 15.3 seconds at ?mph in the quarter None of those tests were head to head though, so they're kind of a poor comparison. Track conditions, temperature, pressure, humidity, drivers, launch policies, and loads of other variables can change those times. I've driven a few 330's though, very disappointing; even slower than my MR2.

08-24-2003, 02:11 PM	#27
palayah8ta Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So Pasadena Posts: 423	Wow ur informative. Im guessing the 1 second time diff is due to heavyness of the 330's luxury.

08-25-2003, 10:02 AM	#29
Jihforce Vice Admiral Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 4,352	Nothing drives like a BMW...but then again, nothing drives like G35 coupe with 280hp underneath that hood As much as I like BMWs, I'd take the G35 coupe because is thousands cheaper. I do like the BMWs interior better. Definitively more plush, BUT I'd be willing to sacrifice that for some solid performance. I'm wouldn't mind the Z, but its just not very practical.