ok- smarty apexr's need to explain this one to me...

thresher · 10-31-2005, 03:50 PM

I took these shots of a bike that really caught my eye, but jeepers don't expect me to explain or understand what I am looking at! It's like that old line: What is porn? I can't tell ya, but I know when I'm looking at it.

This is motorcycle porn.... I don't know what it is, but it's amazing that it's not all over the Internet.... Thanks in advance to DF who'se gonna know all about this bike!

Uh, where are the friggin hubs? How does the rear wheel drive? Daytona Beach may not be paradise, but the bikes...

tupacboy · 10-31-2005, 03:52 PM

ok... is it just me or is that rear wheel bolted into the frame?

guiseppewv · 10-31-2005, 04:02 PM

It is just you.

Aristo · 10-31-2005, 04:30 PM

IS this for real? Look like photochop. Where did you find it?

mechmike0034 · 10-31-2005, 04:33 PM

Here it is finished:

http://www.amenmotorcycles.com/refor...hievements.htm (scroll down to the Hubless Monster heading...)

http://www.osmos-wheel.com/pages/concept.asp?lang=en

http://www.choppersinc.com/include/g..._6_11_2004.jpg

rollhard · 10-31-2005, 05:28 PM

the bike is for show, does it roll, yes,..well? no. it looks like its some kind of bearing design or whatever. you ride that thing for a while and those wheels would probably get so messed up.

ArkiStan · 10-31-2005, 08:30 PM

Looks like the inner hub is bolted to the body, but the wheels could turn if they had their own rim and rolled on bearings against that inner hub.

And these look cooler and like they might actually work(albeit uncomfortable):
http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1115555558.jpg

http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1115555405.jpg

http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1085115878.jpg

http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1121268453.jpg

DarkFury · 11-01-2005, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thresher

Thanks in advance to DF who'se gonna know all about this bike!

Unfortunately, motorcycles is one area where I don't have any expertise... but thanks for the "props" anyways.

kgsilvas · 11-01-2005, 09:53 AM

JAN 2004, The Hubless Monster Mike began the year pulling out all the stops with his creation of The Hubless Monster Motorcycle. Many Secret conversations resulted in the creation of the largest Motorcycle Tire in the World, The 360x18 by Vee Rubber. Not stopping there, a 23” Diameter Tire was also developed. The mold production began and Mike started with the construction using plywood and steel “Models” of what the tire would look like. This new 360 Tire was so wide and with limited time for production (2 Months) that he decided on using friction drive technology from the Carnival Ferris Wheel, plus the drive system would have to be hidden. The bike would incorporate the most amount of sheet metal ever used on an Amen Bike. Mike decided to pull out the drawings for The Hubless Wheels that were 8 years old, and build A REAL Hubless Bike. The “Sheet Metal” resulted in being fabricated as boxed structural steel panels used to mount the wheels and drive system. This Bike is so Revolutionary and Historic that the following list is a breakdown of its accomplishments.

They are as follows:

1.) The First Fully Functional Double Hubless Bike in the World.

2.) The First Bike Fully Engineered and built without the Tires being in Existence

3.) The First Custom Bike in the world to unveil a new tire on a completed Bike

4.) The First Custom Bike in the world to have the Largest Motorcycle Tire in the world, 360mm.

5.) The First Custom Bike in the world to have the new Industry Breaking 23” tire size.

6.) The First Custom Bike to incorporate Friction Drive Technology with Hubless Wheel Design for a Total Clean Look.

The Hubless Monster has been featured and shown most everywhere including the Discover Channel Great Biker Build Off.

mechmike0034 · 11-01-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkiStan

Looks like the inner hub is bolted to the body, but the wheels could turn if they had their own rim and rolled on bearings against that inner hub.

That's how they work. Great observation!

tupacboy · 11-01-2005, 10:03 AM

hmm... i get how the bearing work... can someone please explain how they turn that back wheel... seems like you wouldn't get that much torque...

thresher · 11-01-2005, 10:12 AM

When you see it in person it's even more mind boggling. Btw- Bike Week and Biketoberfest are just that: the craziest bikes you've ever seen. I saw JJ's bikes and Samsone Bikes and Arlon Ness bikes being completely ignored out there. FORGET about Orange County and bolt on stuff like that. These guys are so out there it's not even funny. It takes days to see it all. I am glad I live out here so I can work during the day and cruise the hot spots afterwards.

sizemic1 · 11-01-2005, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tupacboy

hmm... i get how the bearing work... can someone please explain how they turn that back wheel... seems like you wouldn't get that much torque...

My guess is that some sort of device is pressed up against the tire and spun causing the tire to rotate.

mcs328 · 11-03-2005, 08:19 AM

I thought Nano was a our biker expert. No?

Grimm · 11-03-2005, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tupacboy

hmm... i get how the bearing work... can someone please explain how they turn that back wheel... seems like you wouldn't get that much torque...

It's explained in the article kgsilvas posted right above you.

The motor drives a wheel that is held up to the tire, it turns the wheel much like a couple of gears. It can't be as efficient as a chain, but the point is to look good, not perform well.

10-31-2005, 03:50 PM	#1
thresher Commander Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St.Augustine FL. Plymouth Rock is a newbie! Posts: 1,223	ok- smarty apexr's need to explain this one to me... I took these shots of a bike that really caught my eye, but jeepers don't expect me to explain or understand what I am looking at! It's like that old line: What is porn? I can't tell ya, but I know when I'm looking at it. This is motorcycle porn.... I don't know what it is, but it's amazing that it's not all over the Internet.... Thanks in advance to DF who'se gonna know all about this bike! Uh, where are the friggin hubs? How does the rear wheel drive? Daytona Beach may not be paradise, but the bikes... __________________ Wait a second... you're telling me Sixpac Shakur is a CHICK?

10-31-2005, 04:33 PM	#5
mechmike0034 aka the keg killer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ala-effin'-bama! Posts: 2,738	Here it is finished: http://www.amenmotorcycles.com/refor...hievements.htm (scroll down to the Hubless Monster heading...) http://www.osmos-wheel.com/pages/concept.asp?lang=en http://www.choppersinc.com/include/g..._6_11_2004.jpg __________________ "The price of progress is trouble." (C. F. "Boss" Kettering) "50% of the American public has below-average intelligence. 70% of the American public now has regular access to the Internet. Do the math." (unknown) Last edited by mechmike0034 : 10-31-2005 at 04:35 PM.

10-31-2005, 05:28 PM	#6
rollhard Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: So Cal Posts: 370	the bike is for show, does it roll, yes,..well? no. it looks like its some kind of bearing design or whatever. you ride that thing for a while and those wheels would probably get so messed up. __________________ Eloy '07 RPI 2.4GTS Race Precision Inc. Performance without Compromise

10-31-2005, 08:30 PM	#7
ArkiStan Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: Recession Central Posts: 5,898	Looks like the inner hub is bolted to the body, but the wheels could turn if they had their own rim and rolled on bearings against that inner hub. And these look cooler and like they might actually work(albeit uncomfortable): http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1115555558.jpg http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1115555405.jpg http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1085115878.jpg http://www.matte-black.com/eng_low/b...1121268453.jpg Last edited by ArkiStan : 10-31-2005 at 08:36 PM.

11-01-2005, 09:53 AM	#9
kgsilvas Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,245	It's the Hubless Monster JAN 2004, The Hubless Monster Mike began the year pulling out all the stops with his creation of The Hubless Monster Motorcycle. Many Secret conversations resulted in the creation of the largest Motorcycle Tire in the World, The 360x18 by Vee Rubber. Not stopping there, a 23” Diameter Tire was also developed. The mold production began and Mike started with the construction using plywood and steel “Models” of what the tire would look like. This new 360 Tire was so wide and with limited time for production (2 Months) that he decided on using friction drive technology from the Carnival Ferris Wheel, plus the drive system would have to be hidden. The bike would incorporate the most amount of sheet metal ever used on an Amen Bike. Mike decided to pull out the drawings for The Hubless Wheels that were 8 years old, and build A REAL Hubless Bike. The “Sheet Metal” resulted in being fabricated as boxed structural steel panels used to mount the wheels and drive system. This Bike is so Revolutionary and Historic that the following list is a breakdown of its accomplishments. They are as follows: 1.) The First Fully Functional Double Hubless Bike in the World. 2.) The First Bike Fully Engineered and built without the Tires being in Existence 3.) The First Custom Bike in the world to unveil a new tire on a completed Bike 4.) The First Custom Bike in the world to have the Largest Motorcycle Tire in the world, 360mm. 5.) The First Custom Bike in the world to have the new Industry Breaking 23” tire size. 6.) The First Custom Bike to incorporate Friction Drive Technology with Hubless Wheel Design for a Total Clean Look. The Hubless Monster has been featured and shown most everywhere including the Discover Channel Great Biker Build Off.

10-31-2005, 03:52 PM	#2
tupacboy Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: May 2000 Location: border of oc and la Posts: 2,382	ok... is it just me or is that rear wheel bolted into the frame?

10-31-2005, 04:02 PM	#3
guiseppewv Admiral Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: East coast Posts: 7,116	It is just you.

10-31-2005, 04:30 PM	#4
Aristo Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,581	IS this for real? Look like photochop. Where did you find it?

11-01-2005, 10:03 AM	#11
tupacboy Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: May 2000 Location: border of oc and la Posts: 2,382	hmm... i get how the bearing work... can someone please explain how they turn that back wheel... seems like you wouldn't get that much torque...

11-01-2005, 10:12 AM	#12
thresher Commander Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: St.Augustine FL. Plymouth Rock is a newbie! Posts: 1,223	When you see it in person it's even more mind boggling. Btw- Bike Week and Biketoberfest are just that: the craziest bikes you've ever seen. I saw JJ's bikes and Samsone Bikes and Arlon Ness bikes being completely ignored out there. FORGET about Orange County and bolt on stuff like that. These guys are so out there it's not even funny. It takes days to see it all. I am glad I live out here so I can work during the day and cruise the hot spots afterwards.

11-03-2005, 08:19 AM	#14
mcs328 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,578	I thought Nano was a our biker expert. No? __________________

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