[Log In ] [New Posts] []
Go Back   GotApex? Forums Forums > General Topics > Automotive & Transportation
User Name
Password

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-11-2005, 07:42 PM   #1
Itsme
Vice Admiral
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 4,813
Camaro reborn: 700-horsepower, $427,000

Camaro reborn: 700-horsepower, $427,000

LAS VEGAS (CNN/Money) - If you missed your opportunity to buy a brand-new Chevrolet Camaro before General Motors stopped making them in 2002, here's your chance.

You'd better have some serious cash, though.

The reincarnation of a muscle-car era team that specialized in making high-performance Chevrolets has brought the reincarnation of the Camaro itself. This time, they're making their own Camaros from scratch with bodies designed with the help of a 22-year-old California car artist.

The look of the new Baldwin-Motion 540 Camaro SuperCoupe calls to mind the the 1969 Camaro, but this is a bigger, broader two-seat monster. The SuperCoupe is powered by a 700-horsepower V-8 engine.

In a nod to the good old days, the company lists the engine's displacement as 540 cubic inches. That's about 8.9 liters for those of you too young to remember when engine displacement was measured in cubic inches.

Even the car's price is a nod to those old English-unit days: $427,000.

Camaros with General Motors' 427-cubic-inch engine were the basis for some of the most famous cars created by the original Baldwin-Motion Performance Group.

That company was formed when Motion Performance, a Brooklyn, NY, speed shop, moved their operations to the suburban town of Baldwin, NY. There, in 1966, they partnered with a local Chevy dealership to sell custom performance upgrades.

Their cars, mostly high-horsepower Corvettes, Camaros and Chevelles, became some of the most prized muscle cars of the era.

Joel Rosen and Martyn Schorr were largely responsible for creating the original Baldwin-Motion. Rosen was the mechanic, Schorr was responsible for public relations, advertising and marketing.

The pair started their new company, now based in Florida, last summer along with several business partners.

This time, the cars are being created without factory-built Camaros to base them on. The new cars' all-steel bodies will be built by Time Machines, a Florida company specializing in body work for classic muscle cars.

The success legendary performance tuner Carroll Shelby has had with a line of faithfully recreated Shelby muscle cars -- not to mention an upcoming Shelby version of the new Ford Mustang -- had something to do with inspiring this venture, said Lawrence Jaworske, Motion's chief executive officer.

"Why should Carroll get to have all the fun?" he said.

Designer Kris Horton worked with Rosen to pen the prototype car. Horton came to the attention of the Baldwin-Motion team because of a sketch he did for Popular Hot-Rodding magazine in the summer of 2003. That computer sketch, which was distributed widely on the Internet, illustrated what a Chevrolet Camaro might look like if General Motors were to produce the car again.

The Baldwin-Motion SuperCoupe's body, while resembling a 1969 Camaro in the front grill, rear and overall shape, actually shares no sheet-metal or dimensions with that car.

Each of the 12 SuperCoupes the company plans to sell will be hand-made according to the customer's desires, said Lawrence Jaworske, Motion's chief executive officer. That 700-horsepower engine isn't supercharged, for example. If you really want, it could be.

The company is proud of the fact that its supercars will be totally "streetable," said Joworske. In other words, the cars are designed to be safely and legally driven on public roads by non-professional drivers. Motion will not want to do anything to jeopardize the car's road-ready nature, said Jaworske.

"We want to be responsible about what we're doing," he said.

The company will tell buyers to allow a year for their cars to be completed.

The new Motion Camaro will also bring back "the guarantee" that went with the original cars.

Those cars were guaranteed to be able to run a quarter mile from a dead stop in 11.5 seconds at a top speed of 120 miles per hour.

The new guarantee has been tightened to 10 seconds, said Jaworske.

For those with a little less to spend, the company is also making 25 Motion Phase III Camaros which it will sell for about $189,000 each, said Jaworske. Those cars, Jaworske said, will more closely resemble original 1969 Camaros and will use some original body parts.

While he's not exactly sure who the "typical buyer" for a $400,000 to $500,000 700-horsepower Camaro might be, Schorr pointed to the current market in highly collectible muscle cars, including classic Baldwin Motion Camaros from the 1960s and '70s. While not common, extremely rare muscle cars in pristine condition can sell for prices well into six figures.

The prototype Motion Super-Coupe will be sold at the Barrett-Jackson collectible car auction in Scottsdale, Ariz. in January. That event, which is broadcast live on cable television, generally brings some of the highest prices paid for collectible muscle cars.

"If it doesn't bring big bucks at that auction it never will," said Schorr.
Itsme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2005, 09:37 PM   #2
Grimm
100% Pure Evil
 
Grimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 7,861
I believe the "Market" is Jay Leno... and that's about it.
Grimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2005, 10:18 PM   #3
mechmike0034
aka the keg killer
 
mechmike0034's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ala-effin'-bama!
Posts: 2,738
http://www.officialbaldwinmotion.com/home.htm
__________________
"The price of progress is trouble." (C. F. "Boss" Kettering)
"50% of the American public has below-average intelligence. 70% of the American public now has regular access to the Internet. Do the math." (unknown)
mechmike0034 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2005, 12:56 AM   #4
PrObLy
Commander
 
PrObLy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Orland Park
Posts: 1,083
Send a message via AIM to PrObLy
I still think I like the 67's distinct triangular front ventilation windows that flip open but this would be something pretty badass to own.
__________________
Facebook me if you so desire.
Guns don't kill people.
Chad Greenway kills people.
PrObLy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2005, 06:57 AM   #5
Itsme
Vice Admiral
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 4,813
This seems to be part of the trend of the last few years where some manufacturer will make a limited edition of some car. I've seen cases where GM or some manufacturer will announce they will only make say 1000 of a certain car and sell it for $50,000...and they are all gobbled up in 60 seconds.

$427,000 is a bit much, but there are a lot of people making good money on these "limited edition" cars.
Itsme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2005, 08:00 AM   #6
ooBaKeep
Lieutenant Commander
 
ooBaKeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East of I-5
Posts: 767
I'll take a "his and hers" set please. Yeah right!
__________________
Peek-a-Boo!

I don't think a little kid should be punished for somethin' he learned from a parrot! ~ Dennis the Menace
ooBaKeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2005, 08:37 AM   #7
bachviet
What's Da Pho*?
 
bachviet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SoCal (714)
Posts: 13,296
Send a message via ICQ to bachviet Send a message via AIM to bachviet
I would rather buy a house.
__________________
Dell Dimension 9200 | Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz) | 4x1GB DDR2 | 256MB nVidia GeForce 8800GT

Dell Studio 17 | Intel Core i7-720QM (1.6GHz) | 2x2GB DDR3 1066MHz | 1GHz ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650

Intel P4-C 3.0GHz | ECS 865PE-A | 3x512MB PC3200 | 128MB PNY GeForce 6600GT

bachviet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2005, 09:03 AM   #8
Itsme
Vice Admiral
 
Itsme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 4,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by bachviet
I would rather buy a house.

I agree, here in Southern California it certainly would appreciate faster.
Itsme is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:12 PM.