p3rsian

OK I JUST WATCHED IT AND CAN SOME ONE EXPLAIN TO ME
1- what was the oracles choice ?
2- how did neo do what he did ?
3- why did the girl at the end say i did this for neo? the sky thing

SnowSurfer

yea i think there is going to be another one,

spolier alert...





1. to help neo.
2. i dunno hes magical like puff the magic dragon.
3. oh cause she was a program in the matrix and i guess that was her purpose...to make the sun rise..

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Grubbie

Ya i just got back, sitll confused on it

ArkiStan

Revolutions?? Hell, I'm still trying to figure out what the heck the Architect was babbling about at the end of Reloaded.

cheapie

i can't tell if i liked it or not. and they totally left it open for a 4th movie.

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attgig

ok..
1)
she was the one that orchestrated EVERYTHING.
SHE gave birth to Smith... the antithesis of neo.
she did this to create peace in the real world. her choice.
think back with neo and architect and how other "the one's" always chose to give up and go back to "normal life"
neo chose to go on, and bring about the end of the war. the end of the war wasn't going to come by the humans defeating the machines or vice versa... it came through a "peace treaty" between the mcahines and humans...


2)
do what? kill smith? he's the one.
the matrix was a program... Smith was a program. Neo simply "chose" to keep on fighting.. finally was able to hack Smith... keep hacking at it long enough, you can break the program.

3)
sky thing? you mean the big sunshine?
cuz neo was so pale and needed a tan

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raimin

1) agree with attgig

2) I think p3rsian is asking how neo can do his stuff in machine world.(i dunno.. still confused)

3) since neo is dead(i'm assuming) she made it to remember him

SnowSurfer

neo wasnt dead though, he was alive at the end...

raimin

really i thought he was laying there, and the machine dragged him away...i was so utterly disappointed with the ending, and how they ruined this triliogy, i missed something(i think the writers missed alot

Sir_Froggy

i heard this movie wasn't all that good

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attgig

2) you mean in the real world? that's what the oracle was telling him - how this power is with the one. the one's power extends farther than just the matrix...he is born/created special. he just didn't realize that he could do that....

is that a cop out answer? might've been better if it made logical sense...but that's what the oracle said.


i heard it sucks more if you read spoilers about it

but yeah, it's better than the second one imo.

ray

The movie was neither spectacular nor terribly disappointing.

It was entertaining and worth my money to see it on the IMAX. The dialogue and script were pretty much the same as the 2nd one, just not as in depth and it didn't leave people clueless.

Yes, they did leave the movie open-ended and it COULD bring a sequel, but it's not going to happen. My take is they left it open ended like that so the viewers could try and think of what the next step is. How long will the peace last? Is Neo dead or alive? Is he in the matrix, out of the matrix, in between? Why didn't Monica Bellucci show more skin? What happens between Morpheus and Niobe? Does the sun shine everywhere, including inside the Matrix? How do we really know that no other "The One" has ever chosen this path before if the Oracle and the Architect were the know-it-alls? After all, the Oracle didn't tell Neo many things about the Matrix and the future of Zion etc etc etc.

There are a thousand more questions you could ask. There are dozens of scenarios that would make a good premise for the 4th installment, but I don't think it's going to happen.

Like all else in the world and in the matrix...


Everything that has a beginning, has an end

attgig

that question was killing me the whole ride back from the theater.

TofuNinja

I was confused when I left the movie, I too thought that Neo died and that the machines were dragging him away on that platform. He was in a Christ like pose too...

But I think that the movie was left open ended because as shown in number 2 there were many "the Ones" and that this end can also be a begaining. So you could loop all three movies together. In a way the first matrix would be the sequal to Revolutions.....

Nah I'm most likely wrong but that is how confused I was with this movie.

I liked the action in the movie. It wasn't a bad movie. But I think when the first Matrix changed the way we look at movies these two were going to have a hard time beating it. IMO

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cheapchinese

is it only me.. the actions near the end of the movie.. when they were up in the sky... the word that came to mind.. "dragonball"

i thought neo.. just became the matrix ~~ everything just restarted it again

and the people of zion was set free like promised by the architect, remember the conversion at the end with oracle....

anyways...i might just get all 3 of the movie.. and try to figure out the logic.. cause when i watch number 3.. i just felt that there was alot missing... some of the plots are not fitting right, things like that

ArkiStan

Has anybody seen the Japanese Animation from Ghibli Studios called Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind by Miyazaki Hayao?

There's a scene at the end where hundreds of thousands of enemy creatures (sentinels) attack the people who are defending their valley (zion) in their final resistance. The main character, Nausicaa (Neo), knowing there is no hope, bravely throws herself amidst the stampede of raging enemy creatures. Soon after she martyrizes herself the creatures are miraculously calmed and the valley is saved from ultimate destruction. The creatures then gather around Nausicaa and lift her body up with hundreds of their glowing golden tentacles(just like in Revolutions). She is cured and brought back to life through the mysterious healing powers of the golden tentacles.

So I think Neo was probably brought back to life and will be available for the next sequel. case closed.


Golden tentacles

lifted and brought back to life by tentacles

Freelance Superhero

hey when was that movie made? i thought i knew all of miyazaki's films... never heard of that one...

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ray

Don't forget to buy the Animatrix. There's a few tidbits of information there that you'll need.

TofuNinja

I've seen this one on ebay but have not purchased it yet, it sounded good. Is it really by him or just from his studio....

From your pictures the animation chick is standing and up... in teh Matrix Neo is still on his back.....

unless they do a Jesus like thing and have the second coming of Neo.... :shurg:

ArkiStan

It was made back in 1984 when he really started gaining regognization as a film director. His most popular and entertaining films may include Laputa Castle in the Sky or Totoro of the Neighborhood, but i think Nausicaa was definitely his most influential masterpiece. It's my favorite at least.

And Tofu, before she's brought back to life, she's lying on her back.

mcs328

I like it better than the second one. More action, less dialogue. Still confusing but not as bad as the architect.

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Cubsfan

I agree, but not by much I thought both were pretty bad movies. I figured they'd explain most of what the architect said, but I don't think they really explained much.

But the #1 thing that annoys me about the movie... those mech-like vehicles (what'd they call them, APC's?). Why would you create a large fighting machine WITHOUT PROTECTING THE PILOT? That's like of like having the gunner sit on top of the tank without any protection. Oh well...

TofuNinja

LOL I was wondering the same thing...

attgig

the only protection the pilot has is his guns. if his guns can't protect him...nothing will.

ray

This is true. Don't forget that the sentinels can eat through metal. I don't think there's much protection you can give the pilots of the APCs.

All i know is that those APCs really reminded me of "Alien" when Sigourney Weaver straps on that suit to take on the alien. Granted she didn't have guns, she still won.

Cubsfan

I don't know, it seemed to me like most of the pilots were bloodied long before they were actually killed.

ray

That is true too. Well, maybe they should have enacted Operation Human Shield similar to that in South Park: The Movie.

Bires

Incorrect.

Remember that Smith was Neo (his other half) (x=y)

The Arch told Neo that he was a significant variable in a grand equation. (x)

If Smith was Neo, and Neo was a variable in the equation, then so was Smith. (y)

Further, as Neo gained in power, so did Smith...which is why both Smith and Neo fell into comas at the same time, and why Smith (in human form of that dude) was able to distroy/disable the sentinels that were attacking the Hovercraft team (after he set off the EMP to disable the tanks), just as Neo did the sentinels that were attacking the crew of the Neba. (x~y) (x varies as y varies) (x is directly proportional to y)

The Oracle realized this, since it's her job to notice and identify anomolies in the matrix. She allowed herself to be assimilated so Neo would learn it when fighting Smith. Notice, how, when Smith said, "I'm supposed to tell you all things that have a beginning have an end" (speaking of what he learned when assimilating the Oracle) he realized that if Neo dies (he almost killed him) he would also die...which is why got scared and he backed off.

So, when Neo finally did die, (x approached zero), then Smith had to also die (y approached zero), since (x~y).

This is also the only way that the war would end. If you watch the Animatix, you learn that the machines were not war like-we nuked their island after they became too productive and were banrupting the world economy (like Japan before we entered WW2).
Neo showed the machine governship (NOT AI as many ppl think-they are NOT like the borg) that a human was willing to lay down his life for a machine, so the machines concluded that humanity was no longer a threat.

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Bires

APUs...they were designed for mobility. They were not the main battle tank of the human military. They were mechanized infantry, similar to modern-day humvees (which are also not very well armored). Perhaps, this is the vehicle that the machines allowed Zion to keep, perhaps the humans realized that a battle tank in the ruins of the earth or in zion would be a sitting duck (we see how fast the sentinels can rip up something once they get to their target).

TofuNinja

WOW man Bires you make it sound simple