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Old 02-04-2004, 06:08 AM   #1
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Smile The Passion of the Christ - Mel Gibson Movie

I was surprised when I tried to search for this article on this forum and didn't find anything. Well here is the article on this film and how they got struck by lightning twice
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/...ion/index.html

and here is the offical website
http://www.thepassionofthechrist.com/splash.htm

I think it is going to be the biggest release of an independent film. This is a Mel Gibson film but the contraversies around it scared big companies from distributing it. It looks to be good; I will probabaly see it if it comes out near me. Feb 25 is the release date.
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Old 02-04-2004, 06:30 AM   #2
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It's really amazing that Hollywood can release films with tons of porn, films which have withcraft, the occult and demons.

But put out a film about Jesus and they go nuts. To me, it just proves that Jesus is really who he said that he is: The Son of God.
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Old 02-04-2004, 06:40 AM   #3
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It's really amazing that Hollywood can release films with tons of porn, films which have withcraft, the occult and demons.

But put out a film about Jesus and they go nuts. To me, it just proves that Jesus is really who he said that he is: The Son of God.
You obviously don't pay attention to the people protesting Harry Potter films and burning books. For all that controversy, you'd think Harry Potter was the son of God .

Most of the controversy stems from the (what some say is) negative portrayal of Jews in the film. He's just filming the story as written, and it's graphic. BFD. Also the dialogue is in Aramaic which a lot of people don't speak.
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Old 02-04-2004, 07:43 AM   #4
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entertainment forum?

but yeah...harry potter made them a lotta money...so, I don't think there's a difference btw the son of god and harry (for hollywood at least)...
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:07 AM   #5
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I can't comdemn it for historical inaccuracy until I see it. Frankly, of all the people saying it's anti-semetic, I doubt that most of them are doctors of history specializing in 1st century judaic history or historians of early christianity, or even early imperial roman historians.
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:36 AM   #6
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I can't comdemn it for historical inaccuracy until I see it. Frankly, of all the people saying it's anti-semetic, I doubt that most of them are doctors of history specializing in 1st century judaic history or historians of early christianity, or even early imperial roman historians.
You don't need doctors of history or roman historians. The entire script is taken from a biblical story. That's all. People are calling it anti-Semetic because it shows Jews torturing Jesus and nailing him to a tree. But that's what the story is, and Gibson's telling it as written. I hope there are English subtitles. And throwing in a song or two from "Jesus Christ Superstar" would be pretty cool as well.
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:11 AM   #7
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You don't need doctors of history or roman historians. The entire script is taken from a biblical story. That's all. People are calling it anti-Semetic because it shows Jews torturing Jesus and nailing him to a tree. But that's what the story is, and Gibson's telling it as written. I hope there are English subtitles. And throwing in a song or two from "Jesus Christ Superstar" would be pretty cool as well.
the dialgoue is in latin and aramic, with english subtitles

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Old 02-04-2004, 09:24 AM   #8
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You don't need doctors of history or roman historians. The entire script is taken from a biblical story. That's all. People are calling it anti-Semetic because it shows Jews torturing Jesus and nailing him to a tree. But that's what the story is, and Gibson's telling it as written.

xactly.

it would be like germans complaining abuot schindler's list.

that crap happened... don't deny the history.
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:47 AM   #9
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I can't wait to see it. (And now, this is going to Entertainment. )
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:51 AM   #10
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sheesh, you guys make it sound like a bunch of hyper-sensitive Jews control all of Hollywood.
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Old 02-04-2004, 10:53 AM   #11
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hahaha yea i forgot there was this section... When I was posting like mad a few years ago they didn't have this so I just posted on OT like most of my others =P

here is a good study of the movie
http://www.gospelcom.net/rbc/thepassion/
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Old 02-23-2004, 11:18 PM   #12
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All I have to say is...wow!






I just saw this movie today at a special screening.







Number one, dont take youngins to see this movie, let them read the Bible instead (very graphic). I, as a Believer, am stunned. Floored. There are really no words to describe it. I know that this movie will have a different impact on different people, like most of the reviewers have been stating.

Christians will relate to it, some movie critics will probly hate it(It is not your average film), others might view it as a violent dipiction of the story within the Bible.

My view is that it puts perspective to what you read and how you read it. Just like the movie Black Hawk Down...you read these stories of what is happening, maybe watch a snipit on the news, hear a man is in captivity...and you see the movie (just an example).

I believe that this movie is an accurate dipiction of what "really" happened in the time period of His day. Many can argue or what not, "believe" what they will, but I will say this, I have changed my priorities alot tonite. Right now. Im just totally floored...

Either Jesus is the Lord, a Lier, or a Lunatic.... you can decide. I believe He is the Lord.

**side note: I almost felt sick and walked out cause I couldn't watch some parts, it is very intense, and I HIGHLY suggest you first pre-view it before you let any one young watch as it is VERY intense. I am young my self, and find it weird saying this.**


Lastly, I hope that all of you would see this movie, and perhaps invest a little amount of your time to read the Bible and its accounts. I am not here to preach to you, I am just suggesting something, and nothing more.

Sorry this is such a long post, I am just floored by this movie.

May God bless all of you, really.
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p.s. Regarding the Jews and such. Pastor Chuck Smith was at our screening tonite, and he said it fair and square at the end of the movie as he spoke for a few minutes after the screening.

"This movie is not about Jews killing Jesus, this movie is not about Roman Soldiers killing Jesus...if you want to know who killed Him...look in the mirror. "(dont flame this, this is as it is. I am stating what Pastor Smith stated, and I believe he is correct). God bless
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Old 02-24-2004, 12:02 AM   #13
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thanks for the review.

i'm pretty stoked to see it...waiting till thursday cuz that's when our little posse is seeing it.
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Old 02-24-2004, 12:14 AM   #14
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"This movie is not about Jews killing Jesus, this movie is not about Roman Soldiers killing Jesus...if you want to know who killed Him...look in the mirror. "(dont flame this, this is as it is. I am stating what Pastor Smith stated, and I believe he is correct). God bless

I love that quote.
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Old 02-24-2004, 03:16 PM   #15
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Old 02-25-2004, 07:12 AM   #16
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a friend went to see it yesterday...his review (includes spoilers supposedly,....i haven't read it yet)




So I went to a prescreening today. Honestly, I was left speechless. Altogether, a good movie.

So the negatives first. In some sense, it was a horrible movie. There were some boring moments (especially in the beginning), and the plot progression didn't always seem so coherent with all the flashbacks. I think Mel's use of Satan as a character was important, but he could have done it more effectively, rather than have Satan walk around and do nothing. And the end, I wish there was a bit more elaboration on the resurrection, other than Jesus just walking out. On the whole, I felt that the story was left incomplete.

Okay, so the positives. I think the 'incompleteness' is also the strength of the movie. I expect that there will be a lot of criticism saying that it gives an incorrect or incomplete gospel message, which is entirely true. However, this movie EXTREMELY powerful, and I think as an outreach tool, it is useful to spur discussions. I will not forget the fact that this was only one man's vision, and one man's $25 mil. budget, and though there were somethings that may be made better, it was definitely beyond what I expected.

About violence/brutality. It takes a lot to make a spiritual movie rated R. I think the brutality of it all was a lot more toned down than what had actually happened at the time of the real crucifixion, but it really dominated the mood of the entire movie. Rather than let myself get fixated on the brutality, I think it was important to set a context - that though Jesus was under immense pain, pressure, etc., He maintained His integrity and seeing Him not budge/be so confident in His identity in God, encourages my faith in that it verifies that although Jesus was a man, He was far more.

I'm not sure that this is Oscar-winning material, but as a Christian who knows the story in my head, w/o a clear interpretation of those final events, this definitely helps me see a glimpse of what those days were like. Overall: I recommend this for everyone.
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Old 02-25-2004, 09:32 AM   #17
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that's the first decent review from a christian source that i've seen or read.
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ok.

saw the movie.

like my buddy said... it was a bit slow in the beginning.
but yeah...it definitely made me cringe...the violence was a bit much and woman behind me was crying half the time. the violence actually didn't make me cry simply because it was so gruesome. if anything, it kept me from crying.

but yeah. the movie was very well done. the latin/aramaic with subtitles made it even better imo. artistically, the only complaint is that there was a bit too much slow mo throughout the movie...made the movie a bit longer than it should've been =P



but yeah...as a whole, i thought the movie stayed true to the accounts in the gospel, and I'm thinking about grabbing that newsweek and trying to figure out what wasn't in there that would be so blasphemous...
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Old 02-28-2004, 10:25 PM   #19
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I saw the movie today..All I can say is when they showed Jesus falling down as a small child and Mary running to help him I knew what she was feeling- I walked out with a very heavy chest-and very red eyes..I thought the movie was awesome.
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Old 02-28-2004, 11:27 PM   #20
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I saw the movie today..All I can say is when they showed Jesus falling down as a small child and Mary running to help him I knew what she was feeling- I walked out with a very heavy chest-and very red eyes..I thought the movie was awesome.
i thought highly of the film as well. and the scene you mentioned set off the waterworks...
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Now if only a good writer/director would do a Joan of Arc movie along this vein. Ah, but thats a dream that will never be.
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Old 02-29-2004, 01:55 AM   #22
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i thought highly of the film as well. and the scene you mentioned set off the waterworks...

i didn't feel much on that, but what Jesus said at right after that got me teary.
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