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Old 02-05-2004, 02:28 PM   #1
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The Judge says yes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1727856


I hope he fails. I can't remember a bigger punk in sports.
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Old 02-05-2004, 04:29 PM   #2
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Oh oh... I definitely don't want to see 18 years old kids playing pro football. I don't think their bodies could handle that much beating in pro games. Even college-grad players have hard time catching up with the pro games.
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Old 02-05-2004, 04:52 PM   #3
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Kids who aren't ready won't be drafted. and they won't make the team if they can't bang with the big boys in training camp.
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Old 02-05-2004, 05:59 PM   #4
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is he any good? Who would draft him? Would it be a waste of a draft pick?
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Old 02-05-2004, 11:55 PM   #5
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My guess is he gets frozen out

The agreement that made this rule was with players and coaches almost completely supporting it. They didn't want kids getting beat up and wasted before 1 season was up. With college, they have better experience and complete or at least more body development to handle the punishment that an nfl player takes. I think the ruling will be changed in a higher court, or simply no team will draft him. It would be a tough thing for all the teams to let him go by, but i think it would prove that they are very serious on this matter.
I would be impressed if they had that show of wills.
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:32 AM   #6
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The ruling will not be changed in a higher court. It comes down to the fact that the NFL is limiting his chances at a career. They shouldn't be allowed to bar him from playing due to his age or when he graduated highschool.

I understand why the NFL does it, but I also understand why Clarett did it. Say he goes out next year for college and breaks his leg, absolute break. Cant play sports for the rest of his life. He lost out on his chance to play professional sports BECAUSE they wouldn't let him in the draft.

Kids will try to get out early, and after a couple get burned by not staying in school, more will stay in. Everybody knows no Highschool kid will go straight from highschool to the pros. BUT it is not the right of the NFL to bar people from coming out after highschool. BUT clarett is mostly ready physically, he is 5foot 10(a little small) but weighs I believe 220ish, he is jacked.

Take an athlete like Lebron, he is a FREAK OF NATURE at age 18. 6 foot 8 or so. weighs in at a 240pounds of per muscle. Who is to say he is not ready physcially for a sport(he was a wide reciever, and could have played professionally most likely).

Let the kid in, let him get his knocks in, a team will take a chance on him in a later round, but I dont' see him going in the first round(if he does it is a very late pick). And if no teams draft him, I think he would be able to sue the NFL, since everybody knows he can play.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:17 AM   #7
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I see why he should be allowed but from his stand point I think its a bad financial move. Say he gets drafted in the 3rd or 4th round. He will get no signing bonus. He will make 750k a year. The average RB lasts 5 years. He might get one decent contract before his playing days are over. In his career he may only make $7 million.

If he plays one more year of college he could be drafted in the first round. He would get a $1 million+ signing bonus. He would make 1.3 million a year. And if he is good his second contract would be even higher. He might be able to put away $15 million in his career.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:22 AM   #8
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The ruling will not be changed in a higher court. It comes down to the fact that the NFL is limiting his chances at a career. They shouldn't be allowed to bar him from playing due to his age or when he graduated highschool.

I understand why the NFL does it, but I also understand why Clarett did it. Say he goes out next year for college and breaks his leg, absolute break. Cant play sports for the rest of his life. He lost out on his chance to play professional sports BECAUSE they wouldn't let him in the draft.

Kids will try to get out early, and after a couple get burned by not staying in school, more will stay in. Everybody knows no Highschool kid will go straight from highschool to the pros. BUT it is not the right of the NFL to bar people from coming out after highschool. BUT clarett is mostly ready physically, he is 5foot 10(a little small) but weighs I believe 220ish, he is jacked.

Take an athlete like Lebron, he is a FREAK OF NATURE at age 18. 6 foot 8 or so. weighs in at a 240pounds of per muscle. Who is to say he is not ready physcially for a sport(he was a wide reciever, and could have played professionally most likely).

Let the kid in, let him get his knocks in, a team will take a chance on him in a later round, but I dont' see him going in the first round(if he does it is a very late pick). And if no teams draft him, I think he would be able to sue the NFL, since everybody knows he can play.
If his leg is destined to be broken, it will be broken in college or pro. At least finishing college would give him a second career.

LeBron is different since basketball players don't take as much abuse as football players. I don't think Clarett is going to last.
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:09 PM   #9
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If his leg is destined to be broken, it will be broken in college or pro. At least finishing college would give him a second career.

LeBron is different since basketball players don't take as much abuse as football players. I don't think Clarett is going to last.

But if his leg was broken in the pros, he got paid while he was playing. The reason why he was allowed in is because the NFL is determning when somebody can start their career. If he got his one year on the pros, and breaks his leg, he now has enough money to go back to college and start a new career. A lot of the athletes don't go to college for the education. Remember that linebacker from Ohio state I think a couple years ago, katzamoyer or somethign like that, who took golf, sex ed, and another dumb class and failed 2 of them?

With LeBron, I was just making a reference to one of the most physcially gifted people in the world. What I was showing was at age 18 somebody can be physically ready for the NFL, a 240poudn 6 foot 8 wide out who is quick and is really really athletic shouldn't have to go college for 3years to "mature". He might not be up to par with the speed of the game, but physically they are ready.
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:21 PM   #10
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yay, now when atheletes that are in school get caught for smoking/selling dope and are expelled, they can be drafted in professional sports. because obviously the police ledgers arent thick enough.
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I get the broken leg argument, but players often take out large insurance policies on themselves. As far as the owners not drafting him, could you imagine Al Davis passing him up and not pissing off all the other owners? I can't.
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I get the broken leg argument, but players often take out large insurance policies on themselves. As far as the owners not drafting him, could you imagine Al Davis passing him up and not pissing off all the other owners? I can't.
Its not the court's job to save NFL teams from themselves. If they can't use good sense to lay off young players who aren't ready yet, then that's their problem to deal with. The laws of employment are pretty clear in this matter, which is why this suit wound up so quickly. The NFL can't expect the courts to allow them to skirt the law to protect themselves.
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