baggio248

If this happens, maybe Dallas will finally win something.

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brainsmile

Dallas would be foolish to get rid of dirk

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DaFunkyUnit

i would splooge my pants if dirk ended up as a Laker.

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slaus

Dirk cant play any defense and the rebounds he collects are of the soft variety.

ray

Do any of the Mavs or Lakers actually play defense besides Kobe and Finley?

ialsohaveadream

Back when Shaq was in shape, he used to be a more intimidating defensive presence. As for Dallas, I think "Mavericks" and "defense" are mutually exclusive.

slaus

Theres a rumor that the new Nets ownership might be interested in bringing Shaq to the Nets

whitak24

i think if i'm the mavs and i have a chance to trade for shaq, even if it means giving up dirk, i go for it.

having shaq is going to make any team an NBA finals contender for at least the next two years. once you get to the finals, anything can happen.

the mavs, as currently constituted, are hardly a threat to make the western conference finals. as much as i love the fun-and-gun style and all that, dirk and company are not getting the job done. windows of opportunity close pretty quickly in the NBA. if you have a chance to break one down, go for it.

brainsmile

dallas can't beat the pistons

whitak24

of course they can't. no one can beat the pistons! but they can try

size em up!

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attgig

cuban has the balls to make this trade happen. he'll do something to get shaq.

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whitak24

the question is, would cuban be able to get shaq to slim down, or would the permissive, "player-friendly" atmosphere in dallas mean that no one would challange shaq about his diet and conditioning?

because shaq-60lbs would be a frightening force in the league for the next 3-4 years (although i think beyond that his body is going to break down because he's carried too much weight for two long), but shaq at his current weight is going to be a factor for maybe 2 years, and even then, not too much of a factor. i mean, we all saw what the pistons did to him, especially when he only had one day of rest.

zenbooty

Shaq's on his way down. I was just reading some stuff about centers, and how all the big Hall of fame centers began declining right around the age that Shaq is reaching now.

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bachviet

I don't think Dallas will improve much with Shaq & Dirk-less. At least with Shaq, Don doesn't have to resort Hack-a-Shaq any longer.

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kei2

Shaq wouldn't bring defense to the Alice Mavericks. It's not like bringing in a Ben Wallace or a Ron Artest. Besides, one player doesn't really make for team defense. Besides Shaq's past his prime, so what's the point of bringing him in? Dallas doesn't have a chance of winning a championship this coming season either way.

verve247

I have to disagree. Shaq's presence on the court is a defensive advantage. Player's are less likely to drive to the basket when Shaq's hovering under the basket. He is also ranked in the top ten for blocked shots. And Shaq may be going downhill, but he still has the highest FG% in the league. Whichever team gets him will be quite thankful.

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kei2

Highest FG% and one of the lowest FT%s. Nothing without the trade-offs. Down the stretch he can't be a go-to guy EVER, because hack-a-Shaq WORKS. He can't hit free throws consistently period. That's why the Lakers relied on Kobe late in games. Shaq becomes a non-factor.

whitak24

the lakers "relied" on kobe late in games because kobe refused to give up the ball. not to mention that with shaq's lack of conditioning, he is often worn down in the 4th and isn't as active in establishing positioning in the low post.

and while i think shaq's FT% is horrible, can someone point me to ONE playoff series where "hack-a-Shaq" has worked? if you try hacking him, a.) he gets pissed. a pissed off shaq is NOT a good thing to be playing against, b.) unless you have incredible depth, your bigmen start getting into foul trouble, and c.) Shaq's team ends up in the bonus which forces their opponents to soften perimeter defense and opens things up for kobe to drive the lane.

for as much as everyone's talked about it, and while it's maybe "worked" in a game here or there, i don't think it's a long-term strategy that is successful.

ray

Hack a Shaq has never worked from what I've seen.

DaFunkyUnit

you guys have got to be kidding me.

hack-a-Shaq overall does not work. when the Blazers first started using it, coupla years ago, sure it worked for what, one game. But then Shaq started getting more attempts at the charity stripe. which gives him more chances to get into rhythm and start making 1/2. by the numbers, he's a gauranteed 1/2. it was only this year that he's been extremely bad at the FT line. Last year, the year before, and the year before that, hack-a-Shaq doesnt work.

ray

Uhh, that's what we said.

DaFunkyUnit

awake? me? nope.

time for a hot caffeine injection.

ray

or perhaps a prairie fire to kick off the day

zenbooty

Might I recommend "Saul's Wake Up Call?"

Fill a shot glass about a third of the way with finely ground coffee, and fill the rest with vodka. Tastes like crap, but it will most definitely get you going for whatever it is you need to get going for.