Mark Cuban

eSDee · 09-13-2004, 03:08 AM

He gets on my nerves.

DaFunkyUnit · 09-13-2004, 09:44 AM

a little bit sensitive (Are you too sensitive?), arent we?

slaus · 09-13-2004, 09:46 AM

I cant stand Mark Cuban, he just seems a little too hyper

bachviet · 09-13-2004, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eSDeeLoco

He gets on my nerves.

I guess you are not a Dallas Mavs fan huh...

DarkFury · 09-13-2004, 09:52 AM

So what happened now?

Or is this just an "expression of oneself" thread?

eSDee · 09-13-2004, 09:59 AM

The Benefactor is coming out soon so I have been seeing a lot of him lately. Definitely an expression of oneself thread, but I thought I would throw it out there to see if some of you guys thought he was alright and why.

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Originally Posted by DaFunkyUnit

a little bit sensitive (Are you too sensitive?), arent we?

DaFunkyUnit · 09-13-2004, 10:40 AM

i think he is an awesome guy.

He was able to single-handedly turn a dismal franchise into a powerhouse. He is also a big fan of the team that he owns, so (to me, imo) he genuinely cares about his team and his fans, and not just money. Yet at the same time, he is a very shrewd and cunning business man but he uses that "talent" for the good of the Dallas b-ball fans.

he's no Al Davis, and he's no Don Sterling. and thats good.

bachviet · 09-13-2004, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFunkyUnit

i think he is an awesome guy.

He was able to single-handedly turn a dismal franchise into a powerhouse. He is also a big fan of the team that he owns, so (to me, imo) he genuinely cares about his team and his fans, and not just money. Yet at the same time, he is a very shrewd and cunning business man but he uses that "talent" for the good of the Dallas b-ball fans.

he's no Al Davis, and he's no Don Sterling. and thats good.

Hey stop talking trash about my team's owner (Sterling).

I hate Sterling and what he did the Clippers.

cheapie · 09-13-2004, 10:52 AM

he got lucky that his net radio or whatever idea was bought buy yahoo (i think) for some ridiculous amount of money back when a business plan was an afterthought.

he's pretty cool for an nba owner tho'.

faither · 09-13-2004, 01:33 PM

I'd love him to own my underperforming teams (Mets, Knicks, Rangers).

Maarchk · 09-13-2004, 02:23 PM

He is a good business man. he sold some decent ideas for heavy money and got out before he became to committed to be open to change and or sale of his ideas. He has turned the mavs around and has increased league awareness in international players. He has promoted his team and the nba and is very honest about his feelings with the shortcomings he sees in the league.
he is a bit of a loud mouth and obnoxious. He feels its his right to go on and on about how bad the officials are. I realize that they make mistakes and fans are allowed to boo, but to stand up in the front row and to yell at a ref so he can't try to make the next call is not a good answer. He always says whats on his mind without much tact which definitely makes a lot of people not appreciate some of the very intelligent things he has to say.
That all being said, i think hes a smart person and a good business man, but i wish he would act with a little more patience at the games because i feel it shows a lack of sportsmanship in which i think the nba and all sports leagues should promote.

cheapie · 09-13-2004, 02:25 PM

why do you say he's a good businessman? i think he got lucky that yahoo was so anxious to get into the streaming business.

brainsmile · 09-13-2004, 05:22 PM

His eyes are too close together

kimchicowboy · 09-13-2004, 06:10 PM

he answers fan mail personally via his wifi laptop while in the bathroom. i read that in some article recently about how tech-savvy he is.

zenbooty · 09-14-2004, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cheapie

why do you say he's a good businessman? i think he got lucky that yahoo was so anxious to get into the streaming business.

He saw an opportunity open with the internet boom, got an idea together and made it happen, and convinced a buyer to pick him up for far more value than his company was probably worth. Sounds like a good businessman to me.

cheapie · 09-14-2004, 05:38 AM

i guess. i suppose i'm separating being savvy, opportunistic, and creative from being a a good manager, managing growth through a business cycle, and dealing with the financial aspects of a business.

btw, i don't know if he lacks the aforementioned skills. i'm just of the opinion that he capitalized on a market that was way out of whack.

Sesshomaru · 09-14-2004, 07:18 AM

Alot of other people became billionaires or close to it because of the runaway tech sector. The measure now is to see how he manages his billion dollars in this more reasonable climate. If he gets up their with the Gates' and the Buffets', then we'll know.

bbrian · 09-14-2004, 08:33 AM

He also made a lot of money off of chain letters.. what a great business man

Most of his business deals have screwed the buyers. Perhaps the buyers should have been smarter, but that still doesn't make it right.

ray · 09-14-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sesshomaru

Alot of other people became billionaires or close to it because of the runaway tech sector. The measure now is to see how he manages his billion dollars in this more reasonable climate. If he gets up their with the Gates' and the Buffets', then we'll know.

And that will probably never happen!

Maarchk · 09-14-2004, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbrian

He also made a lot of money off of chain letters.. what a great business man

Most of his business deals have screwed the buyers. Perhaps the buyers should have been smarter, but that still doesn't make it right.

Can you give examples of this chain letter thing? And some of his business deals?

bbrian · 09-14-2004, 10:08 AM

The chain letter story is all over the net.. it is how he paid for part of school:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban

I have (in the past) read details on the MicroSolutions deal and the broadcast.com deal that there were some very shady circumstances. I know broadcast.com hadn't turned a profit when he sold it to Yahoo and is now a small development shop. He made comments after the sale that hurt broadcast.com and yahoo.com. Not that I am pro-riaa, but he was purposely falsifying information to riaa and in his books making the company look more lucrative than it was.

(I did a quick search for the stories, but I'm not finding them. They are really old stories and everything google finds is not available anymore)

zenbooty · 09-14-2004, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapie

i guess. i suppose i'm separating being savvy, opportunistic, and creative

All qualities required of a good businessman

Quote:

from being a a good manager, managing growth through a business cycle, and dealing with the financial aspects of a business.

All qualities required of a good minister, or courtier, or lackey.

Maarchk · 09-14-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bbrian

Link + info

cool thanks dude. Hmm that is a bit sketchy of cuban. Its kinda how i see him. Clever but not always on the up and up. Thanks for the info. Needless to say, i dont pull for the mavs .

yippiekiyeh · 09-16-2004, 05:19 PM

Personally I don't like him. But in some ways I have to give him props. He's able to sell his ideas at a premium price. Good for him.

As for his no-defense dallas mavs? All pop, no stop... that's going to be their season's story.

09-13-2004, 03:08 AM	#1
eSDee Old Skooler Numba 1 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Diego Posts: 10,063	Mark Cuban He gets on my nerves. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ 3 days ~ Willie Nelson 3 days I dread to see arrive 3 days I hate to be alive 3 days filled with tears and sorrow yesterday today and tomorrow

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DaFunkyUnit Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: the peanut gallery Posts: 3,909	a little bit sensitive (Are you too sensitive?), arent we? __________________

09-13-2004, 09:52 AM	#5
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09-13-2004, 10:52 AM	#9
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	he got lucky that his net radio or whatever idea was bought buy yahoo (i think) for some ridiculous amount of money back when a business plan was an afterthought. he's pretty cool for an nba owner tho'. __________________ 70% of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Bob Sanders

09-13-2004, 02:23 PM	#11
Maarchk Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Where the east meets the west. Posts: 3,066	He is a good business man. he sold some decent ideas for heavy money and got out before he became to committed to be open to change and or sale of his ideas. He has turned the mavs around and has increased league awareness in international players. He has promoted his team and the nba and is very honest about his feelings with the shortcomings he sees in the league. he is a bit of a loud mouth and obnoxious. He feels its his right to go on and on about how bad the officials are. I realize that they make mistakes and fans are allowed to boo, but to stand up in the front row and to yell at a ref so he can't try to make the next call is not a good answer. He always says whats on his mind without much tact which definitely makes a lot of people not appreciate some of the very intelligent things he has to say. That all being said, i think hes a smart person and a good business man, but i wish he would act with a little more patience at the games because i feel it shows a lack of sportsmanship in which i think the nba and all sports leagues should promote. __________________ "The girl is crafty like ice is cold." "I left my heart in san francisco... And my liver at Moe's Tavern." A real friend is one who listens to you as much as they talk to you.

09-13-2004, 09:46 AM	#3
slaus Commander Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,189	I cant stand Mark Cuban, he just seems a little too hyper

09-13-2004, 10:40 AM	#7
DaFunkyUnit Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: the peanut gallery Posts: 3,909	i think he is an awesome guy. He was able to single-handedly turn a dismal franchise into a powerhouse. He is also a big fan of the team that he owns, so (to me, imo) he genuinely cares about his team and his fans, and not just money. Yet at the same time, he is a very shrewd and cunning business man but he uses that "talent" for the good of the Dallas b-ball fans. he's no Al Davis, and he's no Don Sterling. and thats good.

09-13-2004, 01:33 PM	#10
faither Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: FL Posts: 3,240	I'd love him to own my underperforming teams (Mets, Knicks, Rangers).

09-13-2004, 02:25 PM	#12
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	why do you say he's a good businessman? i think he got lucky that yahoo was so anxious to get into the streaming business.

09-13-2004, 05:22 PM	#13
brainsmile Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: woah... why is welfareloser here with me so early in the morning and more importantly why am I wearing her clothes?!? Posts: 13,754	His eyes are too close together __________________ ********************************** DCM #1 (Founder) "Nobody beats Vitus Gerulaitis 18 times in a row." - Vitus Gerulaitis on beating Jimmy Connors after 17 failed attempts.

09-13-2004, 06:10 PM	#14
kimchicowboy Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: in the middle of the pacific ocean Posts: 5,344	he answers fan mail personally via his wifi laptop while in the bathroom. i read that in some article recently about how tech-savvy he is. __________________ "I pick my nose too but never eat it." - bachviet, 3/30/04 if anyone wants to go scuba diving in oahu or wants to learn who to scuba dive in oahu, PM me.

09-14-2004, 05:38 AM	#16
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	i guess. i suppose i'm separating being savvy, opportunistic, and creative from being a a good manager, managing growth through a business cycle, and dealing with the financial aspects of a business. btw, i don't know if he lacks the aforementioned skills. i'm just of the opinion that he capitalized on a market that was way out of whack.

09-14-2004, 07:18 AM	#17
Sesshomaru Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 173	Alot of other people became billionaires or close to it because of the runaway tech sector. The measure now is to see how he manages his billion dollars in this more reasonable climate. If he gets up their with the Gates' and the Buffets', then we'll know. __________________ Careful where you extend your hand. You may pull it back bloodied.

09-14-2004, 08:33 AM	#18
bbrian Lieutenant Commander Join Date: May 2000 Location: La-La Land Posts: 676	He also made a lot of money off of chain letters.. what a great business man Most of his business deals have screwed the buyers. Perhaps the buyers should have been smarter, but that still doesn't make it right.

09-14-2004, 10:08 AM	#21
bbrian Lieutenant Commander Join Date: May 2000 Location: La-La Land Posts: 676	The chain letter story is all over the net.. it is how he paid for part of school: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Cuban I have (in the past) read details on the MicroSolutions deal and the broadcast.com deal that there were some very shady circumstances. I know broadcast.com hadn't turned a profit when he sold it to Yahoo and is now a small development shop. He made comments after the sale that hurt broadcast.com and yahoo.com. Not that I am pro-riaa, but he was purposely falsifying information to riaa and in his books making the company look more lucrative than it was. (I did a quick search for the stories, but I'm not finding them. They are really old stories and everything google finds is not available anymore)

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09-16-2004, 05:19 PM	#24
yippiekiyeh A Friend of a Friend Join Date: May 2001 Location: WESTSIDE! Posts: 1,673	Personally I don't like him. But in some ways I have to give him props. He's able to sell his ideas at a premium price. Good for him. As for his no-defense dallas mavs? All pop, no stop... that's going to be their season's story. __________________ Distributed.Net I'm Trying this blogger thang...

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