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dizzytrain · 05-24-2004, 08:04 PM

got home to find the same e-mail that says my card has been refunded, also with a different e-mail address than my own listed,
this is very odd- also no refund on my card yet
hmmm, how long should i wait before filling out the dispute and sending it in?
I'm gonna give them two more days, anyone else actually find a refund on their card?

Foxdog · 05-25-2004, 05:48 AM

Same for me, got the email addressed to some @Yahoo.com account, but didn't get my card refunded yet. I don't plan to let this go to long without starting the dispute with MBNA.

cmontyburns · 05-25-2004, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristieswisher

Same for me...got my "credit" email from AI....but nothing has shown up yet on my credit card. This whole situation just goes to show you that you can only check things out so much...if people want to lie, cheat, and steal...they will and that is a sad commentary for mankind in general. Just my 2 cents...

Company had tons of horrible reviews on Reseller Ratings, was trashed by the Better Business Bureau, was the focus of a negative article in Maximum PC, and had no working telephone number.

But you're saying there were no warnings signs? I think this whole situation shows that, in the Internet age, you can actually check things out a LOT. It's just a matter of what you decide to do with that information.

I'm sure lots of people felt like they didn't need to do that since the deal was listed on the front page of GotApex.com. Which was unfortunate.

Bidhere23 · 05-25-2004, 01:53 PM

Dispute now... don't wait...

bm47076 · 05-25-2004, 03:39 PM

On the plus side it seems this deal that never happened got a bunch of people to join the forums and actually post. Lets hope they contribute something and didnt just sign up to complain.

Foxdog · 05-25-2004, 06:10 PM

I still have not been credited. Has anyone who never canceled, but then got the cancelation email from AI, had their card credited yet?

tourbound · 05-25-2004, 09:47 PM

I sent either 3 or 4 cancellation emails to AI between Monday, May 10th and Wednesday, May 12th. Never got an email reply.

I talked to the AI rep on ICQ on Wednesday, May 12th, told him I wanted to cancel, and he told me he would process my refund on Friday, May 21st. And how convenient for AI that they completely closed up shop.

I got my refund ID email yesterday, but still no sign of a refund to my CC.

My bank gives the retailer 30 days to make good on the refund and then I can dispute the charge. So if I don't have a refund by June 9th, I will be getting my money back and I hope whoever the slime ball is that runs AI and is behind this fraudulent activity gets what he has coming.

Sgt_Friday · 05-25-2004, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djslack

I would like to be blessed with the knowledge of how Sgt. Friday got his neat little sales summary

Since there was no communications from AI, I got the information from the web site. I wrote a program to send http requests to www.aicomputers.com and tally up the responses based on order status.

As far as I could tell, the first order on 4/27 was #3678, and the only order, recieved after 4/27 that shipped, was #5490, placed a week after the coupon was removed.

Xarthan · 05-26-2004, 02:15 AM

oooooh do you mind sharing the code? i would like to learn how you did that =)

Apex · 05-26-2004, 03:12 AM

Anyone actually get credited yet?

mrslyger · 05-26-2004, 08:44 AM

I haven't seen a refund yet but based on how they actually tried to run their buisness i doubt they are going to be in a super hurry to sort the mess out.

beo · 05-26-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex

Anyone actually get credited yet?

No.

µnδertaker · 05-26-2004, 09:16 AM

No refund yet. Sent cancel emails to AI starting 5/13. Never got a response.

the greatest · 05-26-2004, 09:18 AM

i had ordered and was charged for 4 systems ($5000+) yesterday i checked with my credit card company and the charges were credited back to my account. i am a little surprised but will continue to monitor my account to see that no additional charges are added to the card. too bad, it seemed like a good deal (too good!)

sdawg · 05-26-2004, 09:45 AM

No refund for me.

I disputed the charge with Capital One yesterday, and they credited my account. For those of you with CapOne, fill the form out online to dispute - it's a lot faster than calling...

Foxdog · 05-26-2004, 10:24 AM

Still no refund. I taked to my CC company and appearantly I have to go through the hassel of filling out the back of a printed statement (I usually pay online) and sign it and send it in. Ughhh.

Comet · 05-26-2004, 02:04 PM

48 hours after credit notification from AI Computers and still no credit posted to my CC. Called my CC company and they indicated that they post credits as soon as they get them. Still waiting.....

n0s0upf0ry0u · 05-26-2004, 03:38 PM

still waiting here too. but certainly NOT indefinitely. if i don't see my refund posted by friday, MBNA will be receiving my dispute.

n0s0upf0ry0u · 05-27-2004, 04:49 PM

a quick update... still haven't been credited, but MBNA told me it usually takes about two weeks (on average) for a company to refund your money once they've informed the purchaser of an anticipated refund

dizzytrain · 05-27-2004, 09:19 PM

Just began the dispute over the phone and will be sending them more info via the mail. The gentlemen at the Card company told me to wait until today to see if the card has been credited back, it wasn't.
After i told them that AI has even taken their site down, they told me its best to begin the dispute.
yesterday i did a bit of research on the net and i found out that most banks will allow you to begin a dispute over the phone and then send the forms in afterwards if you ask them to. What this does is give you an instant CONDITIONAL credit back to your account.
You have to ask to "begin the dispute via phone", thats what i did and to my surprise they gave me the conditional credit after having me answer various questions. They also told me it would be helpful to include with my dispute form info that states that "upon their request i am able to provide them with contact information of others who where also charged by AI and are not receiving anything". Everyone here should include something similiar with their dispute, and if the card company's investigators ask for that info. simply Private message me, and others for the contact info.

Anyways, hope everything works out for everyone on here, i will keep checking out this thread to see how the refund/dispute (i guess thats the real stage four) ordeal is going for those who must endure it.

thaxi · 05-27-2004, 11:31 PM

I havent been credited yet either and called my CC to start the dispute. They said they would mail me the forms and that as soon as they recieved my signed copy back they would refund the money on my account. In the meantime I do not have to pay the disputed amount since I have placed a dispute on it eventhough my statement is now due.

I have the United Mileage Plus Visa from FirstUSA.

cmontyburns · 05-28-2004, 09:52 AM

A flood of credit-card disputes would make it very difficult for these guys to establish a merchant account in the future.

Xarthan · 05-28-2004, 10:39 AM

damn disputes! i'm glad my CC disputes only require one phone call. No messy forms to mail and stuff.

CapitalOne <----- No Hassle

ThinkBling · 05-28-2004, 01:53 PM

aicomputers.com website is completely down now.

quantumburnz · 05-31-2004, 09:47 AM

Anyone get refunded yet? I know I haven't... :/ Filed dispute a while ago though, bank already credited me.

Comet · 05-31-2004, 10:42 AM

One week after receiving credit notification email from AI computers and still no credit posted to my CC. Started dispute on Friday.

Gidget · 06-01-2004, 09:14 AM

I still have not been credited. If anyone does happen to get a credit please post or PM me please.
Thanks!

bullethead · 06-01-2004, 09:35 PM

Hey guys its me again. I visited my normal web sites and surfed the porn, apex is now alittle under the porn surf priority.
You poor guys that listened to all the crap saying you suck if you dont stick it out.
I put my money in the X800 XT. $459 and bringing $800-$1100 on Ebay.
Last I visit apex for a deal, burn city, I'll find my own deals.

Cubsfan · 06-01-2004, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullethead

Hey guys its me again. I visited my normal web sites and surfed the porn, apex is now alittle under the porn surf priority.
You poor guys that listened to all the crap saying you suck if you dont stick it out.
I put my money in the X800 XT. $459 and bringing $800-$1100 on Ebay.
Last I visit apex for a deal, burn city, I'll find my own deals.

Well sir, I can assure you that you will not be missed.

ACE · 06-01-2004, 10:02 PM

05-26-2004, 03:12 AM	#1090
Apex Can you hear me now? Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Here Posts: 5,506	Anyone actually get credited yet? __________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge. Daniel J. Boorstin (1914 - )

05-26-2004, 08:44 AM	#1091
mrslyger Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10	nope no refund yet I haven't seen a refund yet but based on how they actually tried to run their buisness i doubt they are going to be in a super hurry to sort the mess out.

05-27-2004, 09:19 PM	#1100
dizzytrain Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 54	just reached for the life boat Just began the dispute over the phone and will be sending them more info via the mail. The gentlemen at the Card company told me to wait until today to see if the card has been credited back, it wasn't. After i told them that AI has even taken their site down, they told me its best to begin the dispute. yesterday i did a bit of research on the net and i found out that most banks will allow you to begin a dispute over the phone and then send the forms in afterwards if you ask them to. What this does is give you an instant CONDITIONAL credit back to your account. You have to ask to "begin the dispute via phone", thats what i did and to my surprise they gave me the conditional credit after having me answer various questions. They also told me it would be helpful to include with my dispute form info that states that "upon their request i am able to provide them with contact information of others who where also charged by AI and are not receiving anything". Everyone here should include something similiar with their dispute, and if the card company's investigators ask for that info. simply Private message me, and others for the contact info. Anyways, hope everything works out for everyone on here, i will keep checking out this thread to see how the refund/dispute (i guess thats the real stage four) ordeal is going for those who must endure it. Last edited by dizzytrain : 05-27-2004 at 09:37 PM.

05-28-2004, 01:53 PM	#1104
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05-24-2004, 08:04 PM	#1081
dizzytrain Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 54	got home to find the same e-mail that says my card has been refunded, also with a different e-mail address than my own listed, this is very odd- also no refund on my card yet hmmm, how long should i wait before filling out the dispute and sending it in? I'm gonna give them two more days, anyone else actually find a refund on their card?

05-25-2004, 05:48 AM	#1082
Foxdog Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11	Same for me, got the email addressed to some @Yahoo.com account, but didn't get my card refunded yet. I don't plan to let this go to long without starting the dispute with MBNA.

05-25-2004, 01:53 PM	#1084
Bidhere23 Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 153	Dispute now... don't wait...

05-25-2004, 03:39 PM	#1085
bm47076 Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego, by way of Austin Tx Posts: 359	On the plus side it seems this deal that never happened got a bunch of people to join the forums and actually post. Lets hope they contribute something and didnt just sign up to complain.

05-25-2004, 06:10 PM	#1086
Foxdog Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11	I still have not been credited. Has anyone who never canceled, but then got the cancelation email from AI, had their card credited yet?

05-25-2004, 09:47 PM	#1087
tourbound Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 59	I sent either 3 or 4 cancellation emails to AI between Monday, May 10th and Wednesday, May 12th. Never got an email reply. I talked to the AI rep on ICQ on Wednesday, May 12th, told him I wanted to cancel, and he told me he would process my refund on Friday, May 21st. And how convenient for AI that they completely closed up shop. I got my refund ID email yesterday, but still no sign of a refund to my CC. My bank gives the retailer 30 days to make good on the refund and then I can dispute the charge. So if I don't have a refund by June 9th, I will be getting my money back and I hope whoever the slime ball is that runs AI and is behind this fraudulent activity gets what he has coming.

05-26-2004, 02:15 AM	#1089
Xarthan Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 195	oooooh do you mind sharing the code? i would like to learn how you did that =)

05-26-2004, 09:16 AM	#1093
µnδertaker Plebe Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1	No refund yet. Sent cancel emails to AI starting 5/13. Never got a response.

05-26-2004, 09:18 AM	#1094
the greatest Plebe Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2	i had ordered and was charged for 4 systems ($5000+) yesterday i checked with my credit card company and the charges were credited back to my account. i am a little surprised but will continue to monitor my account to see that no additional charges are added to the card. too bad, it seemed like a good deal (too good!)

05-26-2004, 09:45 AM	#1095
sdawg Ensign Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9	No refund for me. I disputed the charge with Capital One yesterday, and they credited my account. For those of you with CapOne, fill the form out online to dispute - it's a lot faster than calling...

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05-26-2004, 10:24 AM	#1096
Foxdog Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11	Still no refund. I taked to my CC company and appearantly I have to go through the hassel of filling out the back of a printed statement (I usually pay online) and sign it and send it in. Ughhh.

05-26-2004, 02:04 PM	#1097
Comet Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6	48 hours after credit notification from AI Computers and still no credit posted to my CC. Called my CC company and they indicated that they post credits as soon as they get them. Still waiting.....

05-26-2004, 03:38 PM	#1098
n0s0upf0ry0u Plebe Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4	still waiting here too. but certainly NOT indefinitely. if i don't see my refund posted by friday, MBNA will be receiving my dispute.

05-27-2004, 04:49 PM	#1099
n0s0upf0ry0u Plebe Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4	a quick update... still haven't been credited, but MBNA told me it usually takes about two weeks (on average) for a company to refund your money once they've informed the purchaser of an anticipated refund

05-27-2004, 11:31 PM	#1101
thaxi Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Location: Alhambra, CA Posts: 6	I havent been credited yet either and called my CC to start the dispute. They said they would mail me the forms and that as soon as they recieved my signed copy back they would refund the money on my account. In the meantime I do not have to pay the disputed amount since I have placed a dispute on it eventhough my statement is now due. I have the United Mileage Plus Visa from FirstUSA.

05-28-2004, 09:52 AM	#1102
cmontyburns Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10	A flood of credit-card disputes would make it very difficult for these guys to establish a merchant account in the future.

05-28-2004, 10:39 AM	#1103
Xarthan Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 195	damn disputes! i'm glad my CC disputes only require one phone call. No messy forms to mail and stuff. CapitalOne <----- No Hassle

05-31-2004, 09:47 AM	#1105
quantumburnz Ensign Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 30	Anyone get refunded yet? I know I haven't... :/ Filed dispute a while ago though, bank already credited me.

05-31-2004, 10:42 AM	#1106
Comet Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6	One week after receiving credit notification email from AI computers and still no credit posted to my CC. Started dispute on Friday.

06-01-2004, 09:14 AM	#1107
Gidget Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 7	I still have not been credited. If anyone does happen to get a credit please post or PM me please. Thanks!

06-01-2004, 09:35 PM	#1108
bullethead KP Duty Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 17	Hey guys its me again. I visited my normal web sites and surfed the porn, apex is now alittle under the porn surf priority. You poor guys that listened to all the crap saying you suck if you dont stick it out. I put my money in the X800 XT. $459 and bringing $800-$1100 on Ebay. Last I visit apex for a deal, burn city, I'll find my own deals.

06-01-2004, 10:02 PM	#1110
ACE Lieutenant Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 406