Heihachi

Hey Yall,
I'm looking to build a comp and my budget is $10,000. I know I can definitely build a dream machine with this money. My cousin wants this comp for fast photoshop purposes. I don't really know where to start. I haven't kept up with the new hardware that's out because I didn't ever dream of spending so much money on a comp.

I wanna run that new pc800 ram. Now do I need to be running Win2k to take advantage of more than 128mb of ram? I believe Kingston is selling that 256mb pc800 ram.

Now for the mobo, I have NO clue as to where I should go. Something that allows the new ram, and dual p4's. Not to mention scsi and ata/100.

This comp is going to run raid for ide (2x75GXP IBM)
Now I also want to run raid on SCSI, but I heard that the x15's can't run raid but did they fix that problem?

If I were to do this, then would I need 2 separate controller cards for both configurations? If so, where do I get one.. or at least a model.

For the monitor I'm thinking of getting the Sony GDM-FW900. Is that good for Photoshop?

And the last I need to find a good case. Not sure about that one either.

The rest like cd-rom, burner.. soundcard.. is not that important. I would greatly appreciate it if you guys could help me build this MONSTER.

(hopefully I'll get a new motherboard/ram/harddrive out of it.)

coleslaw

$10,000????????

umm, you shouldn't need to spend any more than $3000... unless you want to get an SGI workstation (such as an Octane).

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Heihachi

How much and where do I get those SG comps?

Now will it work with regular PC's on a network also? Sorry I'm quite new to this "quad's per channel jargin"

[Edited by Heihachi on 12-27-2000 at 01:40 PM]

Apex

Hmm. $10k.

Monitor:

Best choice: LG Philips LM201U1 20.1" LCD. This is the "next generation" improvement on the screen Apple uses on their 22" Cinema display. Unfortunately, I believe this is close to $7k

http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/eng/pro...Prod.asp?no=27

Second choice: Sony WDM-FW900 24" CRT

http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/products.../gdmfw900.html


Motherboard:

Asus P4T if you want to go with single processor:

http://www.asus.com/products/motherb...p4t/index.html


Intel OR840 if you want to go dual P3:

http://developer.intel.com/design/wrkstn/or840/


Drives:

Seagate Cheetah X15 Fiber Channel:

http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/...21,246,00.html


Raid Controller:

Mylex eXtremeRAID 3000 Dual Fiber channel RAID controller with 96MB ECC SDRAM:

http://www.mylex.com/products/hpr/ex...rd3000_ds.html


Memory: two Kingston 800Mhz 256MB RIMMS

Chassis:

Intel SC5000 Server Chassis:

http://developer.intel.com/design/se...sories/sc5000/


Video:

Probably a GTS Ultra.

coleslaw

I would actually go with an Oxygen video card, like the 3Dlabs Oxygen GVX1 AGP 32MB, a card from Evans & Sutherland or maybe the GeForce Quadro.

i6s1

Anyone seen a good deal on a gold plated keyboard?

coleslaw

Nope, but here's a gold plated mouse!!

Heihachi

Now the OR840 does whatever the P4T does right? Except that is run's dual p3's? I'm assuming it won't dual P4's would it. I haven't decided between the 2 yet. If the Intel Mobo doesn't support p4 dual processing... is there anything that does, that fits my other requirements likewise?

About the hard drives, I really am hoping that the x15's by seagate will allow a raid config. Maximum PC couldn't set up the raid with their controller card they got for the hard drives. Apex, do you know if it's possible to have the Mylex eXtremeRAID 3000 with the x15's? If not I will just run ide I guess. (The IBM'S)

For storage purpose I will get the Quantum Atlas 10k II (73 gigs)

I definitely want those Kingston rimm's. (Can't seem to find them online though?!)

Now with the Video card. Will it make a difference on what I run for just Photoshop?

Just hope I get something good out of all of this.

spigidygak

Just want to mention one thing. Don't get a lcd display if photoshop is going to be used a lot. Get a crt, no matter how good the lcd is, you can't get as good contrast and realistic colors as on a crt.

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I remember that Samsung has a new HDTV ready plasma LCD that's like 20 inches. It's very nice. it was shown at this year's comdex.

coleslaw

Why do you need a $10,000 budget just to run Photoshop?? I have a 500 MHz K6-2 and 128 MB PC-100 RAM and I can do everything in Photoshop just fine. Modifiying the size and angle of massively large graphics may take a bit longer than on a 1 Gig processor, but I don't see a need for such a budget. Now if you were talking about 3D Studio MAX, Maya, and the like, I can see the need for such a steep bugdet.

ken

I was thinking the same suggestion, no LCD.

Except that if you're using this system alot, a 24" crt may burn out your eyes. An LCD won't give near as good color quality, but it'll be easier on your eyes.

Heihachi

Don't ask me it's NOT my comp!!??? He says when they add one effect to it though it takes a good few minutes for it even to take effect. He's running about what you're running right now, but I'm almost positive the pc800 ram along with the x15 setup will rock what you have. (I Think =])

Ken and Spigidygak.. so you're saying go with the Sony right?!!

Oh yea.. can any of you guys answer the questions I had that I put on my just previous post?

[Edited by Heihachi on 12-28-2000 at 02:37 PM]

NullUnit2000

Tell you what, give me the 10 Grand an I'll build the computer for you!

Check this out!

A BLAZING FAST 350Mhz CELERON CPU

!!!THIRTY TWO!!!! MEGA BYTES of PC66 RAM

4 GIGABYTES of hard drive space! That's right, I said 4 GIGABYTES! Holy COW!

A lightning fast 33.6 Modem!

A ROCKIN' Sound Blaster16 audio card!

A Stelth 3D 2000 PCI video card with 2Mb VRAM! SMOKIN'!

A FIFTEEN INCH COLOR Monitor!

A 4X CD-ROM drive. That's FOUR TIMES normal speed!

All this for just $10,000!!!! You should see this baby play Myst! Talk about MIND BLOWING!

And if you get me the money in the next 24 hours I'll through in the floppy disk drive for just $100!

What are you waiting for man?!?!? Get yer arse down to Western Union!

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StonedWheat

Dude, this ain't the home shopping network!

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Heihachi

Thanks for the bash. Unfortunately I'm being serious.

GraingerGuy

Here's a link to help you out -

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1388&p=9

but if you want another choice of monitor go with that

Multiscan GDM-F500R not as big as the one that Apex suggested but it is a flat display.

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GraingerGuy

One more thing....

because of the high latency of Rambus it can actually be slower than PC133 RAM. Actually, now that I think about it, the suggestion for RAM could also be different from anand. It could be Rev.3 Mushkin RAM. Hope this helps.

http://www.mushkin.com/cgi-bin/Mushk...roducts/990595 - Here is the link for the RAM.

(BTW - Rambus is the PC800 RAM that you were talking about if you didn't know already)

GraingerGuy

I also don't think there are any mobos out for P4s....

sbp

Absolutely there are P4 motherboards out.

GraingerGuy

Oops...I was tired last night...what I meant was I don't think there are any mobos for dual P4s. Hehehe...sorry...

Heihachi

Can any of you guys elab on this one!!??? So why would the Rambus be the "new" thing if it's slower than the pc133?

[Edited by Heihachi on 12-31-2000 at 01:04 AM]

Leon

I think the latency of the RAMBUS makes it bad for gaming, but with programs that require a lot of memory bandwidth, the RAMBUS wins.

GraingerGuy

Leon - Is Photoshop memory bandwidth dependant? Does it matter more than the latency for PS?

Apex

Photoshop is more bandwidth dependant than latency dependant.

There are no P4 dualie mobo's yet, primarily because this version of the P4 is not dual capable.

The FW900 is flat.

Those Seagates should be fine in fiber channel raid. Their problem was with scsi, as I remember it. You should call Seagate tech to be sure though.

Heihachi

So an Adaptec SCSI RAID 2100S 1CH PCI Adapter Card would NOT do the job for the Seagates right?

G_Sup

Let's see...I would spend about 4K on Alienware's top of the line and use the remaining 6K on paying off my truck! Why on earth would you want to spend 10K on a computer, especially with new technology that comes around the corner every 3 months? Regardless of the money you spend now, it will still be outdated before this time next year!

Heihachi

He's also wanting a tablet system. ($4000)

OH yea.. Apex or anyone else that can answer this question. Where do I find the Mylex raid controller card to buy and does it work with the x15's?

[Edited by Heihachi on 01-05-2001 at 02:06 AM]