OEM vs Retail Cpu's

SpeedRacer · 03-08-2001, 09:32 AM

Can anyone tell me if there is any difference between OEM and retail CPU's? I just ordered an Athlon 1.2ghz 266FSB and they told me that they only have it in OEM. I know the warranty is a bit shorter and you get a different fan. But performance/quality-wise does OEM or retail have any differences? Thanks.

Sorry if this question was asked before, but I've been searching and I couldn't find anything.

Jeffbx · 03-08-2001, 10:13 AM

I don't know about the Athalons, but Intel OEMs do not provide a manufacturer's warranty. If you have trouble with it, you have to deal with whoever you bought it from.

Artitechturally, the chips are identical.

lipsons · 03-08-2001, 10:41 AM

Jeff is correct. The OEM and retail box have the same chip hardware. The fan and warranty are different. (And w/ intel you only get the sticker with the retail box)

-Steve

SpeedRacer · 03-08-2001, 10:47 AM

orite ... great, that's what i was hoping. i'm getting a 1 year warranty and the thermaltake chrome orb from the dealer. is the chrome orb good (i don't overclock). damn, they said they probably won't get the asus a7m in for another couple of weeks or so. looks like i'll have to wait a bit longer. thanks for the help guys!

Speedfreak · 03-08-2001, 05:40 PM

Sure, if you don't overclock, the chrome orb will do just fine. It will work with overclocking too, but then you might consider something else.

[Edited by Speedfreak on 03-08-2001 at 04:43 PM]

hapoo · 03-08-2001, 05:56 PM

FYI chrome is not a good conductor of heat. If you're lookin for a heatsink/fan take a look at the Heatsink roundup at Tom's Hardware. http://www.tomshardware.com

Speedfreak · 03-08-2001, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hapoo
FYI chrome is not a good conductor of heat. If you're lookin for a heatsink/fan take a look at the Heatsink roundup at Tom's Hardware. http://www.tomshardware.com

True, but he said he won't be overclocking. I have used RETAIL fans before and my cpu WAS overclocked. Well, it still is, acutally. My third system.. slot 1 Celery 300a @ 450. Man.. that was the best at it's time.

hapoo · 03-08-2001, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedfreak

True, but he said he won't be overclocking. I have used RETAIL fans before and my cpu WAS overclocked. Well, it still is, acutally. My third system.. slot 1 Celery 300a @ 450. Man.. that was the best at it's time.

i'm still using a P2 300 @ 450

Not for long though

Speedfreak · 03-08-2001, 06:04 PM

That is your MAIN system?

G_Sup · 03-08-2001, 07:34 PM

Personally I wouldn't go with the Orb. Go for something like the FOP 32, the FOP 38 is the king but the fan is so loud it will make you crazy in aout a half n hour. Also another great fan to consider would be the Alpha. Here's a link to some fine fans http://www.millisec.com I have also heard of Orb's cracking the chip so be careful when installing.

LPMiller · 03-08-2001, 07:45 PM

I'm liking the Thermal engine heatsink, but it needs a good fan to be really effective. If your not overclocking, prettymuch any heatsink will do.

SpeedRacer · 03-08-2001, 07:58 PM

thanks for the advice again guys ... i think the chrome orb will be enough for me though. i doubt i'll really need an expensive fan/heatsink cuz i don't plan on overclocking. thanks again!

clutchy · 03-09-2001, 05:31 AM

im currently running a 1.2/200fsb, but i'm using a fop38 with arctic silver thermal crap. my chip hangs at around 43-45C idle if i do anything it jumps up to around 49C. U might want to consider a bigger fan that chips a beast. fop38, Yeah it's loud as hell for a fan, but with the case open it runs at 40idle 45C doing anything. I also have a 1ghz tbird 200fsb as well with a regular fan heatsink combo/ well actually it's a "heavy-duty" heatsink ball-bearing fan, but that runs a 50C all the time and sometimes goes over that. Just something to consider with AMD. both systems have 2 case fans one front one back plus p/s fan.

G_Sup · 03-09-2001, 09:30 AM

Clutchy, my god...you're idle temps with a FOP 38 are 40C!!! How hot is it in your room? My system is the same and it idles at 19 to 21C. One thing you might want to consider: Close your case back up and place a 90mm fan on the side facing your heatsink. This alone lowered my core temp by 8C. With that FOP 38 and Arctic Silver you should be getting some very cool temps....that is unless you keep the room temps at 90F.

BTW...the 200mhz you are referring to as your Front side bus is actually your System Bus. If you were running your FSB at 200mhz you would be overclocked to 2.4 ghz! Which of course is impossible.

[Edited by G_Sup on 03-09-2001 at 08:34 AM]

clutchy · 03-09-2001, 04:53 PM

ahhh i was thinking in terms of they double pumped the fsb from 100 to 200... so that number is sys bus huh? i'll have to remember that. Our ambient in here isn't much over seventy Fahren. I'm in northern cali, 19 to 21 that's insane i've never seen a processor run that low, my friend has a tbird 850 with a fop38 and he was running like 32C, but that's the lowest i've seen up here. Tell me more about your side fan idea.

hapoo · 03-09-2001, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedfreak
That is your MAIN system?

yes

G_Sup · 03-09-2001, 05:27 PM

Clutchy, while this picture is not of my case, I think you can get the idea of the side fan. My case has 2 of these fans on the side. I also have the top blowhole as shown in the pic. This takes the warm air from the top (heat always rises) and pushes it out of the case. I also have one in the front, one blowing air out in the back and a vid card blower. While most of this is extreme, I would say at least 1 90mm fan on the side (or one 120mm) is a good idea.

Here's the link, and no, my case is not red...LOL!

http://www.hardocp.com/stuff/[h]ardbox/pic4.html

To do this mod all you need is a jigsaw and a steady hand. You simply trace the inside of the fan where you want to install it, directly across from the heatsink/cpu is where you want it, and cut away. You will also want to get a grill as well. I got all my stuff from http://www.millisec.com they ship quickly and have a good rep. Hope this helps!

Speedfreak · 03-10-2001, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hapoo

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedfreak
That is your MAIN system?

yes

Damn... hehe. So, What are you going to next?

hapoo · 03-10-2001, 12:42 AM

AMD 1.2 gig oc'd to 1.4 (hehe hope all works well)
haven't decided on the mobo yet, most likely the Asus A7V266
and i already have 2 sticks of 128meg 2100 DDR ram

puppie · 03-14-2001, 01:20 AM

The chrome orb isnt really chrome, its just a polished aluminum.

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03-08-2001, 09:32 AM	#1
SpeedRacer Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 81	Can anyone tell me if there is any difference between OEM and retail CPU's? I just ordered an Athlon 1.2ghz 266FSB and they told me that they only have it in OEM. I know the warranty is a bit shorter and you get a different fan. But performance/quality-wise does OEM or retail have any differences? Thanks. Sorry if this question was asked before, but I've been searching and I couldn't find anything.

03-08-2001, 10:13 AM	#2
Jeffbx Fleet Admiral Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,390	I don't know about the Athalons, but Intel OEMs do not provide a manufacturer's warranty. If you have trouble with it, you have to deal with whoever you bought it from. Artitechturally, the chips are identical.

03-08-2001, 10:41 AM	#3
lipsons Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 54	Jeff is correct. The OEM and retail box have the same chip hardware. The fan and warranty are different. (And w/ intel you only get the sticker with the retail box) -Steve

03-08-2001, 10:47 AM	#4
SpeedRacer Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 81	orite ... great, that's what i was hoping. i'm getting a 1 year warranty and the thermaltake chrome orb from the dealer. is the chrome orb good (i don't overclock). damn, they said they probably won't get the asus a7m in for another couple of weeks or so. looks like i'll have to wait a bit longer. thanks for the help guys!

03-08-2001, 06:04 PM	#9
Speedfreak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: I am here, so there I am. Posts: 8,027	That is your MAIN system?

03-08-2001, 07:34 PM	#10
G_Sup Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: CA Posts: 262	Personally I wouldn't go with the Orb. Go for something like the FOP 32, the FOP 38 is the king but the fan is so loud it will make you crazy in aout a half n hour. Also another great fan to consider would be the Alpha. Here's a link to some fine fans http://www.millisec.com I have also heard of Orb's cracking the chip so be careful when installing.

03-08-2001, 07:58 PM	#12
SpeedRacer Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 81	thanks for the advice again guys ... i think the chrome orb will be enough for me though. i doubt i'll really need an expensive fan/heatsink cuz i don't plan on overclocking. thanks again!

03-09-2001, 05:31 AM	#13
clutchy Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 2,863	im currently running a 1.2/200fsb, but i'm using a fop38 with arctic silver thermal crap. my chip hangs at around 43-45C idle if i do anything it jumps up to around 49C. U might want to consider a bigger fan that chips a beast. fop38, Yeah it's loud as hell for a fan, but with the case open it runs at 40idle 45C doing anything. I also have a 1ghz tbird 200fsb as well with a regular fan heatsink combo/ well actually it's a "heavy-duty" heatsink ball-bearing fan, but that runs a 50C all the time and sometimes goes over that. Just something to consider with AMD. both systems have 2 case fans one front one back plus p/s fan.

03-09-2001, 09:30 AM	#14
G_Sup Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: CA Posts: 262	Clutchy, my god...you're idle temps with a FOP 38 are 40C!!! How hot is it in your room? My system is the same and it idles at 19 to 21C. One thing you might want to consider: Close your case back up and place a 90mm fan on the side facing your heatsink. This alone lowered my core temp by 8C. With that FOP 38 and Arctic Silver you should be getting some very cool temps....that is unless you keep the room temps at 90F. BTW...the 200mhz you are referring to as your Front side bus is actually your System Bus. If you were running your FSB at 200mhz you would be overclocked to 2.4 ghz! Which of course is impossible. [Edited by G_Sup on 03-09-2001 at 08:34 AM]

03-09-2001, 04:53 PM	#15
clutchy Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 2,863	ahhh i was thinking in terms of they double pumped the fsb from 100 to 200... so that number is sys bus huh? i'll have to remember that. Our ambient in here isn't much over seventy Fahren. I'm in northern cali, 19 to 21 that's insane i've never seen a processor run that low, my friend has a tbird 850 with a fop38 and he was running like 32C, but that's the lowest i've seen up here. Tell me more about your side fan idea.

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03-09-2001, 05:27 PM	#17
G_Sup Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: CA Posts: 262	Clutchy, while this picture is not of my case, I think you can get the idea of the side fan. My case has 2 of these fans on the side. I also have the top blowhole as shown in the pic. This takes the warm air from the top (heat always rises) and pushes it out of the case. I also have one in the front, one blowing air out in the back and a vid card blower. While most of this is extreme, I would say at least 1 90mm fan on the side (or one 120mm) is a good idea. Here's the link, and no, my case is not red...LOL! http://www.hardocp.com/stuff/[h]ardbox/pic4.html To do this mod all you need is a jigsaw and a steady hand. You simply trace the inside of the fan where you want to install it, directly across from the heatsink/cpu is where you want it, and cut away. You will also want to get a grill as well. I got all my stuff from http://www.millisec.com they ship quickly and have a good rep. Hope this helps!

03-10-2001, 12:42 AM	#19
hapoo Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield USA Posts: 9,276	AMD 1.2 gig oc'd to 1.4 (hehe hope all works well) haven't decided on the mobo yet, most likely the Asus A7V266 and i already have 2 sticks of 128meg 2100 DDR ram

03-14-2001, 01:20 AM	#20
puppie Ensign Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 34	The chrome orb isnt really chrome, its just a polished aluminum.