[Log In ] [New Posts] []
Go Back   GotApex? Forums Forums > General Topics > Hardware
User Name
Password

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-23-2001, 07:12 AM   #1
johnnymk
Chief of Naval Operations
 
johnnymk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: LEVITTOWN< PA> USA
Posts: 13,621
I am ready to assemble a low end system for a friend for copying CDG discs. The maximum speed for recording these discs is presently 8X, using CDRWIN. I will be using a Plextor SCSI 12/20 PLEX reader and one of the approved CDRWIN burners. I am trying to figure the minimum speed CPU for this system. Plextor seems to indicate that the minimum speed is a 233 MHZ for the reader, while I have seen 12X writers only specify 100 MHZ . He will be copying direct from the reader to the writer.If he goes direct, wouldn't that minimize CPU usage?
I can presently perform this function on my own computer, but it's a Pentium II 400.
johnnymk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2001, 09:58 AM   #2
Razz
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Deep South
Posts: 70
Send a message via ICQ to Razz
hummm.....

I have used a Pentium 166MMX in conjuction with a SCSI Yahama 4X burner before and it ran quite well. As for SCSI, it is less processor dependent than IDE and with this said it has the ability to run quite well on older systems, and multitasked without a hitch. Now as for a 233Mhz is a recommended minimum speed not necessarily the actual minimum. Try the setup on whatever system you wish, putting a 233Mhz minimum basically will cut out on there customer service calls.
__________________
Space For Rent
Razz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2001, 10:15 AM   #3
attgig
Chief of Naval Operations
 
attgig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: the burbs of baltimore
Posts: 11,924
Send a message via ICQ to attgig Send a message via AIM to attgig Send a message via MSN to attgig Send a message via Yahoo to attgig
yup with scsi, you can be in the classic pentium 166's and still be pretty good....

However, when you copy from cd to cd like you described....it'll only go straight from cd to cd whe BOTH drives are scsi. When one is ide, the processor still has to churn and do a whole lotta work...

my recommendation, if both drives are scsi...GO!GO!GO!
if not, just give it a try! media is so stinkin cheap anyways
__________________

attgig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2001, 11:05 AM   #4
Clauzii
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Clauzii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 137
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by chosenfool
ah, SCSI...so arcane! i never had the privilege of working with them, but their reliability on older systems is excellent - i know this only because ive seen a P133 with it, and an old mac that had it. compared to regular IDE then, they made the systems faster. too bad theyre still too expensive compared to ATA-66 or ATA-100 drives these days.

I am using a P100 (!) to burn CD´s at 4x (Mitsumi burner)
and a 16x CD-drive: works fine, and since I have a Main machine too, it is no problem with the 4x burning speed.
__________________
If it works, don´t fix it!
Clauzii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2001, 12:16 PM   #5
OverDrive
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Springfield MO
Posts: 107
if you are having trouble finding that ancient of parts though, you could build a burning machine dirt cheap:

Duron 700 $27
Gigabyte allinone board approx $90
16x Burner $72
16x dvd $60 (cause it will read a little more steady)
a cheap case with 300w psu, $40
western digital 30gig 5400 $75
so for around $400, you could have a descent little machine to burn on, play mp3s and whatever else
__________________
3 simple rules to computers.
1. Don't buy Intel
2. Buy AMD
3. If you don't get it overclocked, make it overclocked

lets roll
OverDrive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2001, 05:09 AM   #6
Clauzii
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Clauzii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 137
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by OverDrive
if you are having trouble finding that ancient of parts though, you could build a burning machine dirt cheap:

Sounds all fine, except for the following:

- Ancient machines are everywhere!
- My P100 makes VERY little noise (I can actually barely hear my HD, which is the ONLY noisemaker).
- It uses very little power: There went my scrambled eggs!
- It was dirt cheap: 50$
- I do not use MP3s, only REAL quality audio works for me!
- I do not want an AMD!!!!!!!

[Edited by clauzii on 08-29-2001 at 04:30 AM]
Clauzii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2001, 10:25 AM   #7
OverDrive
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Springfield MO
Posts: 107
Ok...

It may be true that you can get ancient parts everywhere, except around my area, a P100 at a local store is almost as much as ordering a new duron system. And besides, why would I want to waste money on Intel ??? If mp3's are done properly, you can't hardly even notice a difference from cd audio, so go ahead and blow some more smoke and let me know when you come up with a valid answer for everyone. I was just offering a different Option...
OverDrive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2001, 01:43 PM   #8
Clauzii
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Clauzii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 137
Cool Re: Ok...

Quote:
Originally posted by OverDrive
It may be true that you can get ancient parts everywhere, except around my area, a P100 at a local store is almost as much as ordering a new duron system. And besides, why would I want to waste money on Intel ??? If mp3's are done properly, you can't hardly even notice a difference from cd audio, so go ahead and blow some more smoke and let me know when you come up with a valid answer for everyone. I was just offering a different Option...

And it is very fine with options indeed!!
But since I run a Studio, finished songs do not get cut to MP3!!!
Clauzii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2001, 01:45 PM   #9
Clauzii
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Clauzii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 137
Cool Re: Re: Ok...

[quote]Originally posted by Clauzii
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by OverDrive
It may be true that you can get ancient parts everywhere, except around my area, a P100 at a local store is almost as much as ordering a new duron system. And besides, why would I want to waste money on Intel ??? If mp3's are done properly, you can't hardly even notice a difference from cd audio, so go ahead and blow some more smoke and let me know when you come up with a valid answer for everyone. I was just offering a different Option...

And it is very fine with options indeed!!
But since I run a Studio, finished songs do not get cut to MP3!!!
BTW: the Yellow Pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clauzii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2001, 03:05 PM   #10
attgig
Chief of Naval Operations
 
attgig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: the burbs of baltimore
Posts: 11,924
Send a message via ICQ to attgig Send a message via AIM to attgig Send a message via MSN to attgig Send a message via Yahoo to attgig
if you want an old system.....ebay.

actually, i have a celoron 466 and a pII 266...
if you want...
attgig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2001, 10:16 PM   #11
OverDrive
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Springfield MO
Posts: 107
The yellow pages? WTF?? I know most of the computer store owners personally, and an old sys like that cost $2-300! this area sucks for old computers
OverDrive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2001, 07:26 AM   #12
Clauzii
Lieutenant Junior Grade
 
Clauzii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 137
Cool

Quote:
Originally posted by OverDrive
The yellow pages? WTF?? I know most of the computer store owners personally, and an old sys like that cost $2-300! this area sucks for old computers

In DK, a celeron 300 (The ones we clock to 5-600 MHz) costs (in US$)
around 150-200$ all included (64MB / 4GB / Monitor / 16x CD / and sometimes even printer).


Last edited by Clauzii : 08-30-2001 at 07:29 AM.
Clauzii is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:10 PM.