OpenGL problem. freezing

revil · 08-25-2001, 11:50 PM

ok, i'm having a problem. I have a voodoo 5 5500 (PCI) running on win2k. whenever i run an open gl app, windows freezes. it never did this before. but now it does it every time.

can anyone help?

revil · 08-26-2001, 12:07 AM

ok, it's not a voodoo problem. i used the onboard video card and it is doing the same thing. it's really pissing me off.

OverDrive · 08-26-2001, 10:43 AM

Make sure you have the latest VIA 4in1 drivers (if you are running a VIA chipset) and have you been playing in your BIOS at all?

revil · 08-26-2001, 11:24 PM

I have a serverworks chipset, so that's not the problem. I tried installing some x3dfx drivers and it still does the same thing. also, i just tested it out again. but this time instead of just freezing, it reset the bios. i remember happening once before.

OverDrive · 08-26-2001, 11:33 PM

man... I would almost go to say you got a fopa mb! thats nuts! what mb is it? I don't think I have ever heard or that chipset...

revil · 08-27-2001, 12:04 AM

it's an asus cur-dls. but it's from a gateway server. but the first few months, this never happened. it's just now doing it. i find that very strange.

i did just install another processor. could that have anything to do with it?

nhbilly · 08-27-2001, 12:19 AM

Server Chip( http://www.serverworks.com/ ) sets are SICK!!!!!

they are the dream

Supermicro MB has them.....YUM.

sorry.....
though about redoing the whole OS again?
I mean as in Repairing.

revil · 08-27-2001, 02:02 AM

actually it pissed me off enought to actually reformat. anyways, after two days of working on it. i moved it to another pci slot and it works fine now. strange.

nhbilly · 08-27-2001, 05:36 AM

That would be my second choice Evil. : )

revil · 08-27-2001, 09:14 AM

God Damnit!!! I thought it was fixed. I played for 3 f*cking hours last night, no problems! I wake up this morning wanting to play again and it freezes as soon as i start playing!

korient · 08-27-2001, 09:58 AM

Hi, I got the exactly same problem, it freeze my Windows 2000 advanced server everytime I run a OpenGL apps or game. BIOS reset a couple of times. My OS is very very stable, it freezed only a few times since 1999. I don't know what to do with it now, I thought it's the problem with the VOODOO 5500, then I just wait for a GeForce 3 PCI availabe.
After read your post, it sounds like the MB is the problem.

I just use Direct 3d for now.

Korient

OverDrive · 08-27-2001, 10:02 AM

direct3d looks prettier anyway

attgig · 08-27-2001, 10:56 AM

i have the same problem too..

I have voodoo3 3000 agp, and opengl doesn't work on win2k, but works fine on win me... =(

also, i dunno if direct3d is prettier, but it's ssssllllloooowwwww.

it's times like these that you wish 3dfx was still around =(

[Edited by att gig on 08-27-2001 at 09:58 AM]

revil · 08-27-2001, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by korient
I don't know what to do with it now, I thought it's the problem with the VOODOO 5500, then I just wait for a GeForce 3 PCI availabe.

hehehe. geforce isn't all that great for pci. the pci bus is way to slow. the t&l needs a high bus rate for good effect, and i would assume that would be the same for G3.

anyways, I've found the solution! Those ****ers at gateway only put a 200 watt power supply in my case!!! since the voodoo 5 cards need an external power souce (besides the pci slot), the card wasn't getting enough power. so i plugged it into my neigboring computers power supply, and voila' it work perfectly!

I should have noticed it earlier. whenever my 12v power dipped below 11.75 (approx) it would freeze. I knew i bought a digital doc for something.

I hope this helps.

oh, and koriet, advanced server probably isn't the best OS for graphics.

attgig · 08-27-2001, 03:03 PM

hmmm, then I'm guessing 250 watts ain't gonna be enough???

I'm running a celeron (466), though I do have a lot of drives and such...

2 hd's, 1 burner, 1 scsi dvd drive, and I ran out of connectors for my zip

attgig · 08-27-2001, 03:24 PM

hey, wait a minute...
they why does it opengl work in winme but not win2k for me?

does win2k use up more power or something?!?!?

korient · 08-27-2001, 04:06 PM

You got the goood piont for the power supplier, maybe that's the reason. I have 2 p933 processor, 1g memory, 2 scsi hard drive, cdr, dvd, zip, floppy, two network cards, sound card. everything runs very smooth except the OpenGL with voodoo. Also I'm going to put in a few hard drive in there, Any one kowns if there is enough power supplier???

incallisto · 10-20-2001, 03:46 PM

I'm having the same problem. I have the Asus CUR-DLS and a Voodoo5 5500 PCI. The only thing is, my PSU is 750Watts. It's not possible that it could be a PSU issue as I have two 750Watt redundant/load sharing power supplies. This problem only occurs in Win2k. I've tried all of the drivers on x3dfx.com and 3dfx.com/downloads.htm.

Anyone know of any other issues that may be causing this?

Thanks in advance

Mark

sbp · 10-20-2001, 05:42 PM

The Voodoo 5 strong point was direct3d. It used to convert OpenGl calls into Glide.

I've found the best Voodoo5 drivers to be 1.04.00

revil · 10-20-2001, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sbp
The Voodoo 5 strong point was direct3d. It used to convert OpenGl calls into Glide.

I've found the best Voodoo5 drivers to be 1.04.00

Really? I thought the strong point was it's open gl. oh well, direct 3d has been working nicely.

incallisto · 10-21-2001, 06:17 AM

Well, it locks up with any driver I use in quake3, RTCW, Max Payne, and Serious Sam. Strangely, it never locks up at the same place, as the sound repeats (skips?) until I do a cold reboot.

Bandito · 10-22-2001, 07:36 AM

I was going to say to check your power supply when I first started reading this.

I would have thought 250W would be marginally enough to run it though. But that does sound like a lack of power.

My buddy bought an HP Pavillian recently and when he put in a Geforce2 it did the same thing. We pulled the power supply and those cheapskates only put in a 145W power supply from the factory! I didn't even know they made such small power supplys? Sheesh.

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08-27-2001, 10:56 AM	#13
attgig Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the burbs of baltimore Posts: 11,924	i have the same problem too.. I have voodoo3 3000 agp, and opengl doesn't work on win2k, but works fine on win me... =( also, i dunno if direct3d is prettier, but it's ssssllllloooowwwww. it's times like these that you wish 3dfx was still around =( [Edited by att gig on 08-27-2001 at 09:58 AM] __________________

08-27-2001, 04:06 PM	#17
korient Ensign Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Atlanta Posts: 48	Power supplier You got the goood piont for the power supplier, maybe that's the reason. I have 2 p933 processor, 1g memory, 2 scsi hard drive, cdr, dvd, zip, floppy, two network cards, sound card. everything runs very smooth except the OpenGL with voodoo. Also I'm going to put in a few hard drive in there, Any one kowns if there is enough power supplier???

10-20-2001, 03:46 PM	#18
incallisto Plebe Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2	I'm having the same problem. I have the Asus CUR-DLS and a Voodoo5 5500 PCI. The only thing is, my PSU is 750Watts. It's not possible that it could be a PSU issue as I have two 750Watt redundant/load sharing power supplies. This problem only occurs in Win2k. I've tried all of the drivers on x3dfx.com and 3dfx.com/downloads.htm. Anyone know of any other issues that may be causing this? Thanks in advance Mark __________________ heatware tested, heatware approved.

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08-25-2001, 11:50 PM	#1
revil shibuya girl Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,851	ok, i'm having a problem. I have a voodoo 5 5500 (PCI) running on win2k. whenever i run an open gl app, windows freezes. it never did this before. but now it does it every time. can anyone help?

08-26-2001, 12:07 AM	#2
revil shibuya girl Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,851	ok, it's not a voodoo problem. i used the onboard video card and it is doing the same thing. it's really pissing me off.

08-26-2001, 11:24 PM	#4
revil shibuya girl Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,851	I have a serverworks chipset, so that's not the problem. I tried installing some x3dfx drivers and it still does the same thing. also, i just tested it out again. but this time instead of just freezing, it reset the bios. i remember happening once before.

08-26-2001, 11:33 PM	#5
OverDrive Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Near Springfield MO Posts: 107	man... I would almost go to say you got a fopa mb! thats nuts! what mb is it? I don't think I have ever heard or that chipset...

08-27-2001, 12:04 AM	#6
revil shibuya girl Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,851	it's an asus cur-dls. but it's from a gateway server. but the first few months, this never happened. it's just now doing it. i find that very strange. i did just install another processor. could that have anything to do with it?

08-27-2001, 12:19 AM	#7
nhbilly Commander Join Date: May 2000 Location: santa ana ca usa Posts: 1,156	Server Chip( http://www.serverworks.com/ ) sets are SICK!!!!! they are the dream Supermicro MB has them.....YUM. sorry..... though about redoing the whole OS again? I mean as in Repairing.

08-27-2001, 02:02 AM	#8
revil shibuya girl Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,851	actually it pissed me off enought to actually reformat. anyways, after two days of working on it. i moved it to another pci slot and it works fine now. strange.

08-27-2001, 05:36 AM	#9
nhbilly Commander Join Date: May 2000 Location: santa ana ca usa Posts: 1,156	That would be my second choice Evil. : )

08-27-2001, 09:14 AM	#10
revil shibuya girl Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 6,851	*God Damnit!!!* I thought it was fixed. I played for 3 f*cking hours last night, no problems! I wake up this morning wanting to play again and it freezes as soon as i start playing!

08-27-2001, 09:58 AM	#11
korient Ensign Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Atlanta Posts: 48	Hi, I got the exactly same problem, it freeze my Windows 2000 advanced server everytime I run a OpenGL apps or game. BIOS reset a couple of times. My OS is very very stable, it freezed only a few times since 1999. I don't know what to do with it now, I thought it's the problem with the VOODOO 5500, then I just wait for a GeForce 3 PCI availabe. After read your post, it sounds like the MB is the problem. I just use Direct 3d for now. Korient

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08-27-2001, 10:02 AM	#12
OverDrive Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Near Springfield MO Posts: 107	direct3d looks prettier anyway

08-27-2001, 03:03 PM	#15
attgig Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the burbs of baltimore Posts: 11,924	hmmm, then I'm guessing 250 watts ain't gonna be enough??? I'm running a celeron (466), though I do have a lot of drives and such... 2 hd's, 1 burner, 1 scsi dvd drive, and I ran out of connectors for my zip

08-27-2001, 03:24 PM	#16
attgig Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the burbs of baltimore Posts: 11,924	hey, wait a minute... they why does it opengl work in winme but not win2k for me? does win2k use up more power or something?!?!?

10-20-2001, 05:42 PM	#19
sbp Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 11,037	The Voodoo 5 strong point was direct3d. It used to convert OpenGl calls into Glide. I've found the best Voodoo5 drivers to be 1.04.00

10-21-2001, 06:17 AM	#21
incallisto Plebe Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2	Well, it locks up with any driver I use in quake3, RTCW, Max Payne, and Serious Sam. Strangely, it never locks up at the same place, as the sound repeats (skips?) until I do a cold reboot.

10-22-2001, 07:36 AM	#22
Bandito Lieutenant Join Date: May 2000 Location: detroit, mi usa Posts: 381	I was going to say to check your power supply when I first started reading this. I would have thought 250W would be marginally enough to run it though. But that does sound like a lack of power. My buddy bought an HP Pavillian recently and when he put in a Geforce2 it did the same thing. We pulled the power supply and those cheapskates only put in a 145W power supply from the factory! I didn't even know they made such small power supplys? Sheesh.