Dual Proc?

Heihachi · 06-06-2002, 01:51 AM

Alrighty my peoples.

I'm building a computer for my artsy fartsy friend. She'll be using this comp for a lot of photshop kind of stuff. I was wondering... does dual procing give a GREAT performance boost in applicaions like photoshop?

I'm debating if the cost of dual procing is worth it. Please let me know.. thanks.

BTW.... if it is... what's the best DUAL AMD mobo to get?

NuTs62 · 06-06-2002, 02:18 AM

not sure if its good for it.. but defintely dont go with Tyan.

and i'm not one of ur peoples!

Ladogaboy · 06-06-2002, 09:25 AM

You might be interested in reading this...

http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2...s/index.x?pg=1 (link pulled from the front page)

Anyway, to sum up, you will only see advantages of dual processors on certain applications and under certain conditions. It almost seems as though the harder you push a dually rig, the faster it gets. I'm still not sure if photoshop is enough of a reason on its own though--my K6-2 400 runs it perfectly.

penguin_hash · 06-06-2002, 02:36 PM

The dual processors would only be useful if the program and drivers take advantage of this. On my system, Windows/Linux both somewhat balance the load on both processors... which is good for some speed up but not much else.

One of my friends runs a specific audio mixing program (forgot the name off-hand) which is pretty processor intensive. On a single-processor system, the system is basically unusable which it's working. However, on the dual system, all the processing is set to one CPU, which allows the other CPU to handle the GUI among other things.

IMHO, this is only real use for dual processors for home usage. If I'm doing something intensive (like ripping a DVD), I'd like a better response time on the GUI. Maybe I'd like to browse while this is happening. Or if I'm burning something to CD (and don't have burn-proof), I'd like to dedicate one processor to burning.

You'd be better off getting a 1GHz processor than 500MHzx2, unless Photoshop takes advantage of this. There are no P4 duals yet.

aglio412 · 06-06-2002, 02:49 PM

buy a mac

...what, what was that?

thought so, buy a mac.

hehehehee...

NuTs62 · 06-06-2002, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aglio412
buy a mac

...what, what was that?

thought so, buy a mac.

hehehehee...

~~Cantacuzene~~ · 06-06-2002, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aglio412
buy a mac

...what, what was that?

thought so, buy a mac.

hehehehee...

Normally I'd belittle you but the person is described as "artsy-fartsy" so maybe a G4 is the correct choice.

Heihachi · 06-06-2002, 04:32 PM

W/ the looks of it.. seems like dual procing doesn't sound as great as it's all worked up to be. I think I'll just go T-Bred and raid... like usual.

Anyone know how well 4 SE Western Digital drives do in a raid 0 config?

MACINTOSH???? what the heck is that?

NuTs62 · 06-06-2002, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Heihachi
Anyone know how well 4 SE Western Digital drives do in a raid 0 config?

4?! I have 3 in a RAID 5 setup.. I did that so at least if one goes bad, I don't lose any of my stuff. If you're putting 4 in a RAID 0 setup.. geez.. Would hate to see one of those suckers fail on you

[knock on wood]

Ladogaboy · 06-06-2002, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NuTs62

4?! I have 3 in a RAID 5 setup.. I did that so at least if one goes bad, I don't lose any of my stuff. If you're putting 4 in a RAID 0 setup.. geez.. Would hate to see one of those suckers fail on you [knock on wood]

But imagine how fast it would be!

Heihachi · 06-07-2002, 01:35 AM

Considering that the new abit board has 4 channels for raid.. I think imma try it out..

haha.. you not my peoples?

Man.. I thought the apex family was a family.. haha.. guess not

Speedfreak · 06-07-2002, 01:44 AM

Get a Mac if you want to use photoshop and if you want a pretty box. Or, build that PC if you want to do a lot of things.

~~DoPeY5007~~ · 06-07-2002, 01:47 AM

The ULTIMATE dual machine

Speedfreak · 06-07-2002, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoPeY5007
The ULTIMATE dual machine

Ya, that is probably fast. Why does it have to be sooo much though? I guess that Sun logo is expensive.

Jeffbx · 06-07-2002, 07:59 AM

You think Sun is expensive, have a peep at SGI - the Octane2 with high end graphics is about twice that

http://www.sgi.com/workstations/octane2/

UNIX graphics workstations are crazy expensive... the IBM RS6000 runs about $50k. A single 73GB drive for that machine from IBM is $3000. I still don't understand how they can get away with charging so much for these systems. It's no wonder corporations are switching to W2K.

~~DoPeY5007~~ · 06-07-2002, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedfreak

Ya, that is probably fast. Why does it have to be sooo much though? I guess that Sun logo is expensive.

the systems are 64-bit, so I guess that ups the $$$

Speedfreak · 06-07-2002, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoPeY5007
the systems are 64-bit, so I guess that ups the $$$

Ya, well hopefully I won't have to pay $35,000 to built my new AMD SledgeHammer system at the end of the year.

Speedfreak · 06-07-2002, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeffbx
UNIX graphics workstations are crazy expensive... the IBM RS6000 runs about $50k. A single 73GB drive for that machine from IBM is $3000. I still don't understand how they can get away with charging so much for these systems. It's no wonder corporations are switching to W2K.

Ya, like I said, the name is expensive.

Ladogaboy · 06-07-2002, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Speedfreak

Ya, well hopefully I won't have to pay $35,000 to built my new AMD SledgeHammer system at the end of the year.

Considering the fact that that will be the soonest that I upgrade my system, I hope you are right!

rajatQ2 · 06-08-2002, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoPeY5007
The ULTIMATE dual machine

holy hesus what would you do with 8GB of ram in one box??? you could create a ramdrive and load an entire dvd's worth of data into it. that's like having one of those solid state drives!

06-06-2002, 01:51 AM	#1
Heihachi Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: La Crescenta, CA, USA Posts: 676	Dual Proc? Alrighty my peoples. I'm building a computer for my artsy fartsy friend. She'll be using this comp for a lot of photshop kind of stuff. I was wondering... does dual procing give a GREAT performance boost in applicaions like photoshop? I'm debating if the cost of dual procing is worth it. Please let me know.. thanks. BTW.... if it is... what's the best DUAL AMD mobo to get?

06-06-2002, 09:25 AM	#3
Ladogaboy Admiral Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Hiding amongst the minnows Posts: 6,843	You might be interested in reading this... http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2...s/index.x?pg=1 (link pulled from the front page) Anyway, to sum up, you will only see advantages of dual processors on certain applications and under certain conditions. It almost seems as though the harder you push a dually rig, the faster it gets. I'm still not sure if photoshop is enough of a reason on its own though--my K6-2 400 runs it perfectly. __________________ It is not enough to merely touch the face of god; you also must open your eyes so that you may see your palm.

06-07-2002, 01:44 AM	#12
Speedfreak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: I am here, so there I am. Posts: 8,027	Get a Mac if you want to use photoshop and if you want a pretty box. Or, build that PC if you want to do a lot of things. __________________ Call me Fleet Admiral §pêêÐƒrêák™! Go get me some coffee. CoolSpeed

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06-06-2002, 02:18 AM	#2
NuTs62 Vice Admiral Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,763	not sure if its good for it.. but defintely dont go with Tyan. and i'm not one of ur peoples!

06-06-2002, 02:36 PM	#4
penguin_hash Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 50	The dual processors would only be useful if the program and drivers take advantage of this. On my system, Windows/Linux both somewhat balance the load on both processors... which is good for some speed up but not much else. One of my friends runs a specific audio mixing program (forgot the name off-hand) which is pretty processor intensive. On a single-processor system, the system is basically unusable which it's working. However, on the dual system, all the processing is set to one CPU, which allows the other CPU to handle the GUI among other things. IMHO, this is only real use for dual processors for home usage. If I'm doing something intensive (like ripping a DVD), I'd like a better response time on the GUI. Maybe I'd like to browse while this is happening. Or if I'm burning something to CD (and don't have burn-proof), I'd like to dedicate one processor to burning. You'd be better off getting a 1GHz processor than 500MHzx2, unless Photoshop takes advantage of this. There are no P4 duals yet.

06-06-2002, 02:49 PM	#5
aglio412 Still Unbanned Commander Join Date: May 2001 Location: Suburbia Posts: 1,362	buy a mac ...what, what was that? thought so, buy a mac. hehehehee...

06-06-2002, 04:32 PM	#8
Heihachi Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: La Crescenta, CA, USA Posts: 676	W/ the looks of it.. seems like dual procing doesn't sound as great as it's all worked up to be. I think I'll just go T-Bred and raid... like usual. Anyone know how well 4 SE Western Digital drives do in a raid 0 config? MACINTOSH???? what the heck is that?

06-07-2002, 01:35 AM	#11
Heihachi Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: La Crescenta, CA, USA Posts: 676	Considering that the new abit board has 4 channels for raid.. I think imma try it out.. haha.. you not my peoples? Man.. I thought the apex family was a family.. haha.. guess not

06-07-2002, 01:47 AM	#13
~~DoPeY5007~~ court-martialled Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brig Posts: 0	The ULTIMATE dual machine

06-07-2002, 07:59 AM	#15
Jeffbx Fleet Admiral Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,390	You think Sun is expensive, have a peep at SGI - the Octane2 with high end graphics is about twice that http://www.sgi.com/workstations/octane2/ UNIX graphics workstations are crazy expensive... the IBM RS6000 runs about $50k. A single 73GB drive for that machine from IBM is $3000. I still don't understand how they can get away with charging so much for these systems. It's no wonder corporations are switching to W2K.

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