I love firewire

ribitch · 06-10-2002, 07:07 PM

its amazing how fast you can transfer files across firewire. I just transfered 400 megs orth of data from my harddrive to an external firewire drive, and it was done in secods. plus there was no strain on my system at all!!!

i6s1 · 06-10-2002, 08:11 PM

Agreed. Firewire sure beats the heck out of USB 2.0.

DREDD · 06-10-2002, 08:57 PM

yeah but USb isn't really made for HDs...it's for KB/Mouse/gamepad

ribitch · 06-10-2002, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by DREDD
yeah but USb isn't really made for HDs...it's for KB/Mouse/gamepad

usb 1.1 was made for lower transfer rates, usb 2.0 is actually faster than firewre 1.0

firewire 2.0 (1394b) is supposed to be released in the near future and is by far faster than firewire 1.0 and usb 2.0

i have seen allot of people saying usb 2.0 is the future, but firewire has already proven itself (since 1999 with apple i believe) and will only expand.

DREDD · 06-10-2002, 09:32 PM

what Dv cam do you know that uses USB?! heh and how many thousands or millions of Dv cams are sold worldwide?

ribitch · 06-10-2002, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by DREDD
what Dv cam do you know that uses USB?! heh and how many thousands or millions of Dv cams are sold worldwide?

currently none, primaily dv cams are mostly used on macs to edit video, and macs do not have usb 2.0 without an aftermarket card. Plus USB 2.0 devices are failry new

USB 2.0 has been prmarily used for portable harddrives as well as cd-rw and dvd-rw drives. If a pc was an acceeptable choice for nonlinear editting, than maybe more cameras would ship with usb 2.0 instead of firewire, since most pc's are still not shipping with built on firewire

i6s1 · 06-10-2002, 11:14 PM

USB 2.0 is theoretically faster than firewire, but in practice it is not.

Tommy Boomfiger · 06-10-2002, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by i6s1
USB 2.0 is theoretically faster than firewire, but in practice it is not.

that may be the case, but be sure to remember that usb 2.0 is much more cpu dependant than firewire. so the faster the cpu, the faster usb 2.0 will work

VileOFFender · 06-11-2002, 12:32 AM

USB is the biggest rip off ever. Not only is it slow, the devices rarely work as advertised. Although they are getting better, they still don't compare to 1394 in ease of use or throughput

skynet · 06-11-2002, 08:41 AM

FireWire is awesome, but if you want tranfer files Computer to computer NOTHING beats GigaBIT. Whoo I backed 18 Gigs from a laptop to my machine in a matter of minutes. I'd Love to see a firewire network cable. They have USB but that wouldn't compare to FireWire.

I've transfered files from a Friends Digital Cam to my computer via the firewire and it was very quick, almost seemed seemless.

Leon · 06-11-2002, 08:54 AM

Isn't firewire 2.0b eventually going to support fiber optics? From there it's going to be reaching ludicrous speed.

http://192.41.19.35/space/chicken.wav

Dave_7 · 06-11-2002, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by Leon
going to be reaching ludicrous speed.

Ha!

Dave.

i6s1 · 06-11-2002, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by skynet
FireWire is awesome, but if you want tranfer files Computer to computer NOTHING beats GigaBIT. Whoo I backed 18 Gigs from a laptop to my machine in a matter of minutes. I'd Love to see a firewire network cable. They have USB but that wouldn't compare to FireWire.

I've transfered files from a Friends Digital Cam to my computer via the firewire and it was very quick, almost seemed seemless.

Gigabit and firewire are equally fast in that sort of situation because the notebook's hard drive speed would limit the transfer rate.

Any firewire cable is a network cable.

OC · 06-11-2002, 11:14 AM

Speaking of firewire....

http://www.firenas.com/home/

Firewire Network Attached Storage. Way too fking cool.

-OC

ribitch · 06-11-2002, 12:59 PM

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1394b provides significant bandwidth, speed, distance and cost-efficiency improvements over the original IEEE 1394-1995 specification. It enables the extension of the standard first to 800 Megabits/second and 1.6 Gigabits/second, then on to 3.2 gigabits/second, using plastic optical fiber. It supports audio and video transfer over plastic optical fiber to 50 meters at 200 Megabits/second, to 100 meters over UTP at 100 Megabits/second, and over glass optical fiber at up to 3.2 Gigabits/second. A new, highly efficient bus arbitration scheme, known as BOSS (Bus Owner Supervisor Selector) implements overlapped, pipelined arbitration, so the arbitration protocol runs in parallel with data transmissions. Hybrid bus operation enables backward compatibility with 1394-1995 and 1394a.

taken from http://www.1394ta.org/Press/2001Press/may/5.21.a.htm

3.2 Gigabits!!!!

take that gigabit ethernet!!!

What good is a technology that is heavily dependeant on the cpu when it comes to large amounts of data transfer? You want minimal CPU interruptions, which is what firewire is designed to do. The only real system slow down you will have is from your harddrive access and RAM.

johnnymk · 06-13-2002, 02:55 AM

So, if my Pentium II 450, which will not support burning rates greater then 10X were to utilize FireWire, then I could burn at 40X?

Tommy Boomfiger · 06-13-2002, 03:39 AM

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Originally posted by johnnymk
So, if my Pentium II 450, which will not support burning rates greater then 10X were to utilize FireWire, then I could burn at 40X?

cd burning itself is the limiting factor in your situation. regardless of which format (ide, scsi, usb or firewire) you use, your cpu wont let you burn any faster.

ribitch · 06-13-2002, 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by johnnymk
So, if my Pentium II 450, which will not support burning rates greater then 10X were to utilize FireWire, then I could burn at 40X?

what speed is your burner. My work computer has a 12x burner in a P2 333. It does 12 without any problems

johnnymk · 06-13-2002, 07:10 AM

I have an IOMEGA Zip 12X burner which will not burn at that speed. I have never really tried a 10X burner. I assumed from the information on a Pacific Digital 32X box that 10X is the fastest I can burn.
I usually burn at 8X with no problem on my HP 9100.

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ribitch Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,672	I love firewire its amazing how fast you can transfer files across firewire. I just transfered 400 megs orth of data from my harddrive to an external firewire drive, and it was done in secods. plus there was no strain on my system at all!!! __________________ http://ribitch.com/ipod.html

06-10-2002, 08:11 PM	#2
i6s1 Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Vancouver Posts: 905	Agreed. Firewire sure beats the heck out of USB 2.0. __________________ YVAN EHT NIOJ

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OC the admiral formerly known as overclocked Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Outside the mainstream Posts: 5,922	Speaking of firewire.... http://www.firenas.com/home/ Firewire Network Attached Storage. Way too fking cool. -OC __________________ But what is adulthood except a delayed end-run around our parents' better judgment? -- Peter Egan cough

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06-10-2002, 09:32 PM	#5
DREDD Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 339	what Dv cam do you know that uses USB?! heh and how many thousands or millions of Dv cams are sold worldwide?

06-10-2002, 11:14 PM	#7
i6s1 Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Vancouver Posts: 905	USB 2.0 is theoretically faster than firewire, but in practice it is not.

06-11-2002, 12:32 AM	#9
VileOFFender Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 131	USB is the biggest rip off ever. Not only is it slow, the devices rarely work as advertised. Although they are getting better, they still don't compare to 1394 in ease of use or throughput

06-11-2002, 08:41 AM	#10
skynet Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 523	FireWire is awesome, but if you want tranfer files Computer to computer NOTHING beats GigaBIT. Whoo I backed 18 Gigs from a laptop to my machine in a matter of minutes. I'd Love to see a firewire network cable. They have USB but that wouldn't compare to FireWire. I've transfered files from a Friends Digital Cam to my computer via the firewire and it was very quick, almost seemed seemless.

06-11-2002, 08:54 AM	#11
Leon Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,219	Isn't firewire 2.0b eventually going to support fiber optics? From there it's going to be reaching ludicrous speed. http://192.41.19.35/space/chicken.wav

06-13-2002, 02:55 AM	#16
johnnymk Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: May 2000 Location: LEVITTOWN< PA> USA Posts: 13,621	So, if my Pentium II 450, which will not support burning rates greater then 10X were to utilize FireWire, then I could burn at 40X?

06-13-2002, 07:10 AM	#19
johnnymk Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: May 2000 Location: LEVITTOWN< PA> USA Posts: 13,621	I have an IOMEGA Zip 12X burner which will not burn at that speed. I have never really tried a 10X burner. I assumed from the information on a Pacific Digital 32X box that 10X is the fastest I can burn. I usually burn at 8X with no problem on my HP 9100.

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