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New Powermacs
I think they're a bit too pricy, but Apple is coming out with dual 1.25GHz Powermacs tomorrow. Its interesting because they're going with dual procs across the whole Powermac line. I guess they're tired of getting beaten in the benchmarsk. I wonder what sort of inovations they'll have... firewire 2?
Keep an eye out a www.apple.com
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08-12-2002, 11:18 PM
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Re: New Powermacs
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these are not definite yet. These are merely rumors, and these rumors range from dual cpu's across the line to 1.6GHz dual systems with DDR333. As far as innovations, I dont really see anything new except the possibility of integrated bluetooth and finally adding DDR support.
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08-13-2002, 06:07 AM
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http://flymilesmicro.com/browse_by_b...CATEGORY_ID=12
up before apple officially posted it. Apples store is currently down for maintenance. I get to spec and order one for work today!!! It will most definitely be the top model with 1GB Ram. I cant wait! |
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08-13-2002, 06:42 AM
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They are at the apple store:
http://store.apple.com $4,999.00 Dual 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 256K L2 cache & 2MB L3 cache/processor 167MHz System Bus 2.0GB PC2700 DDR SDRAM 120GB Ultra ATA drive SuperDrive & Combo drive NVIDIA GeForce4 Titanium 56K internal modem Shipping in 6-8 weeks  Last edited by ribitch : 08-13-2002 at 06:46 AM. |
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08-13-2002, 09:18 AM
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Holy crap, 2gigs of ram? What the heck do you need that for? Trying to put porn pics on a ramdrive in order for the slideshow to go faster? I bet the dual procs help out even more. Spending 5k on any computer (unless it has lots of scsi or scsi RAID) is like spending 15k on a wedding ring. The only thing you get is everybody else's misinformed PERCEPTION that your male parts are bigger than they really are. LK Last edited by LegendKiller : 08-13-2002 at 09:20 AM. |
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08-13-2002, 09:43 AM
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Yeah, I agree. 640K is all the ram anyone would ever need. |
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08-13-2002, 09:58 AM
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08-13-2002, 10:12 AM
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What can you possibly run, on a personal machine, that would take 2gb? Cad? Maybe. PS? Yeah, right, your going to manipulate 2GB files in photoshop? Ohh boy, I bet you could open 30 different iMovie screens and show all of the great "switch" movies. Yeah, thats why you would need 2gb. Ummm...yeah...and...uhhh..like...it...went beep beep...and uh..? LK |
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08-13-2002, 10:28 AM
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i knew you would pop up. Mac users often use finalcut pro and various other video editting apps which benefit greatly from the added ram. There is also the "what will i ever do with 16 MB of RAM" arguements. OS X is not like win 9x (not sure about XP) where you dont loose performance by exceeding 256 MB of RAM. I also know many of you ragging on the 2 GB of RAM would love to have it in your system even if you probably would never utilize it. |
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08-13-2002, 10:40 AM
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Of course I would pop up, I have jack to do at work since my projects are all done (I leave Fri).
Are you kidding me? 2GB files for video editing? 1. The HDD would be the limitation, not the ram 2. Basic bus throughput would be another. Your STILL talking about Win9x? Heck, even MS has stopped supporting that. That 256mb limitation is LONG gone...last OS to have it was WinME and that stopped shipping almost a year ago. I would never buy 2gb of ram, its pointless. That extra gig of ram can buy another HDD or a good mouse (mac users need that). LK Quote:
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08-13-2002, 10:48 AM
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For $5K, I'd EXPECT 2G of ram. Who cares what I'd do with it! It had better be there if I'm paying that much money.
$5K? That's obscene. For that much money, it'd better make coffee, take dictation, tune up my car, make a perfect souffle, and give one hell of a backrub.
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I guarentee that at some point you will buy 2 gigs of ram. Another thing is that nobody here is saying you NEED 2 gigs of ram. Are you bagging Apple just for offering it? Dell offers up to 4 gigs. By the way, if you're working with video, you can make a 1+ gig ram disk for the footage you're working with. That would speed up editing significantly, FAR MORE THAN ANY SCSI SYSTEM!!! |
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08-13-2002, 11:11 AM
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Here is some rough figuring of what kind of PC you could get for 5k Dual Amd 2100MP = 420 Dual Asus A7M266-D= 209 1GB Crucial 2700 = 320 =2gb=640 GF4 4600 = 278 Heatsinks = 60 Lian Li mid tower+fans= 230 gigabit Network = 60 modem = 30 mouse =30 kb = 20 Storage HDD's= 4x Cheetah 36LP = $1400 - RAID 5 Adaptec RAID 48MB cache = 218 2x WD 120 gig SE's = 300 = mass storage SCSI DVD-RW+ =300 SCSI UltraPlex 40x= 70 - ripping and on the fly copying Total so far = 2GB= 4065, 1GB= 3745 + Planar 23.1" LCD = 2899 Grand Total = 6624-1GB, 6944-2GB That system there would kick the crap out of anything mac could produce |
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08-13-2002, 11:13 AM
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I agree on the ramdisk, to a point though. LK |
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08-13-2002, 11:19 AM
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complain all you want about a standard 2.0 GB of ram, but it will sell, and people will use it for whatever. This system is the "Ultimate" system preconfigured by apple. The pumped up RAM is part of that ultimate package. You can get a similar system with 512 MB of RAM and a few other changes for less than the 5k price.
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08-13-2002, 11:27 AM
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I have to say it sounds ludicrous to most users having 2GB of ram. However, Apple owners aren't "most users" and the powermac isn't exactly aimed towards the average home market, the model line is geared more towards the professional line. Why else would they bother making a 23" lcd monitor that is HD resolution? Since I don't have $5k to spend on a system, although I would love to, I'm stuck right now doing my video editing on windows xp and premiere. I have 512 MB of ram and its not enough. For one thing, my page file will be around 150-200 or so, then when I start up premiere it'll jump up to 600+. Also as i6s1 mentioned, it would be VERY nice to have a ram disk of 2GB to work with. But again, keep in mind the powermac isn't your consumer level line, thats what the imac is for.
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excellent point. If an imac isnt enough for you, then this would be your next choice: Quote:
This system is a very capable system fo rthe average users needs. Throw in a 15" LC, and an ATI 9000 Series or GF4 Ti, and you'll be all set, and at a price tag of about half of the Ultimate system. |
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Yeah, I have machines in my office that use 2GB of RAM, but it's for a CAD 3D simulation of assebmly lines. As far as using a RAM disk - why bother? You reduce the amount of RAM available to the system, and it has to swap to the hard drive. 6 of one, half dozen of another. Plus, if you're working with a huge file, most of the lag time is loading the image into memory, which is improved by (you guessed it!) a nice fast SCSI drive. I can guarantee you that if I'm getting a dual proc machine with 2GB of RAM I'm not going to put an IDE bottleneck in there, especially if I'm dropping $5k on it. |
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08-13-2002, 04:01 PM
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I would spend my $5K on a supercharger for my car!
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