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Old 11-12-2002, 08:38 AM   #1
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round ide cables bad?

Check this out:

http://www.a1-electronics.co.uk/PcHa...DECables.shtml

Has anyone had problems with round ide cables? I'd like to reduce the clutter inside my PC.
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Old 11-12-2002, 10:12 AM   #2
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That website is familiar to some of us:
http://www.pcabusers.net/forums/show...threadid=22317
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Old 11-12-2002, 10:53 AM   #3
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Thanks, that's what I figured! Ya can't believe everything you read on the www!

I wouldn't use the round ide cables on a high end server, but on my XP1800+ I think it'll be fine.
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Old 11-12-2002, 11:52 AM   #4
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Well I doubt error rates occur often with rounded cables, but I'm sure the performance is marginally less than a high quality ide cable. Also, the air flow thing is true however. IMO there are much better ways to use a flat ide cable and fold it around inside the case than using a round cable. To me it just seems like another easy thing for companies to sell for high profits, sort of like the heat sink craze.
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Old 11-12-2002, 05:27 PM   #5
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It is true that use flat cables along the backside of the case is better from an airflow point of view when the following TWO situations is applicable:

1. You have IDE cables that are long enough and HD's that are close to your IDE ports.

This one is easy enough, unless you are using a PCI RAID card or onboard RAID that places the chipset and ports at the bottom-front of your mobo and your HD's are in the center of the case.

2. The flat IDE ribbons don't block convection air currents above and below the plane of the harddrive.

This one is just about imposible, since the IDE connectors are at right angles to the cable. This is why I started stacking and rolling my cables in the first place so long ago...it was impossible to get the flat cables to not block case air so that the air would flow nicely over the harddrives.
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Old 11-14-2002, 01:27 PM   #6
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u prolly need some of these babies

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/atacopmes24.html
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:30 PM   #7
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I use those too, minus the pull tabs. The copper mesh looks really nifty under red LED light.
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:31 PM   #8
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cool......i'm gettin one ata silver at 36" ...one ata silver at 24 and one floppy copper at 18
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:49 PM   #9
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Those look exactly like the ones I bought from the guy I posted about a few posts up...
For $25 I got one 36" IDE cable, one 18" IDE cable, and one 24" FDD cable shipped... Good stuff mang!

So do you think that's a good deal?
FYI, that's $3.84 a foot or 32 cents per inch or $11.90 per meter and $20,276.00 per mile. Still think it's a good deal?
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Old 11-14-2002, 11:27 PM   #10
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Thumbs up They are on sale now at SVC

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Old 11-14-2002, 11:30 PM   #11
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BTW:

The cables that I use are machine-made twisted pairs, just like the newer SCSI cables and CAT-5E cables are designed. Since electromagnetic interference applies tangent to the flow of electricity, this is the best way to shield a cable-even better than a flat cable. (Google search "right hand rule and induction")
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