is NOW the best time to get a new mobo/cpu upgrade?

~~Cantacuzene~~ · 05-30-2003, 12:27 AM

I upgraded last november, so not for me. All my friends who need upgrades I'm advising to do now.

Showtime · 05-30-2003, 12:29 AM

You know im looking at the 865/p4c ht combo right now. Specifically that Albatron 865/ P4 2.4c for $300 at Frys. Got 2 sticks of SS 400ddr for my 1.8a that would run perfectly in the dual channel mobo. Should be able to clear 3.2 with that set up. Hopefully 3.5+ghz!

I do anticipate some big price drops due to the fact that people dont need to upgrade many current systems and the new AMD chips.
As always it will probably be cheaper a month later.

or maybe I'll just put a dvd system in the truck...........

-jel

sbp · 05-30-2003, 12:38 AM

Yeah now is good time. Nothing really major is going to happen until Athlon 64, P4 Prescott, NV40 are launched end of year.

DaNewbie · 05-30-2003, 03:20 AM

yup, now is a good time to upgrade, I just splurged and got myself a dual xeon system

topane · 05-30-2003, 06:06 AM

I'm in the process of upgrading now. I just got a new MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R, and I'll be adding a CPU and RAM in the next couple of weeks.

johnnymk · 05-30-2003, 06:11 AM

From what I've read, there is still a lot of overcapacity in the hardware side of the computer industry. Plus this is the time which computer sellers try to market their wares to new college students.

When you look at the prices of 52X CDRW's selling for $20 after rebate, 120 GB hard drives for $80 and 512 MB of decent memory for under $50, things must really be hurtin'.

So I expect even further price drops.

ski · 05-30-2003, 10:21 AM

I'd definitely advise you to get a mobo with SATA. If you read the reviews over at NewEgg, customers who bought the 36.9GB 10,000 RPM SATA drive (I think by Seagate) are saying it's much faster than SCSI, and that Windows loads up in no time compared to 7200 RPM 8MB ATA drives. Wasn't long ago that 5400 RPM 2MB was fast

Showtime · 05-30-2003, 11:11 AM

yep hd will make everything start faster.

Btw, how loud are those 10,00 rpm drives?

-jel

attgig · 05-30-2003, 01:00 PM

sigh...only if I had $$.

and i need a new system too! (Power outage killed my computer...i think..help!)

can anybody lend me about 400 bucks so i can get myself a 2.4 system with some ram? I'll pay you back in January 2004. I already have upped my credit cards too mcuh.. I'm playing the transfer balances game. thinking about doing a home equity instead. sigh.

my buddy is waiting till the new geforce comes out...and then doing his system.

attgig · 05-30-2003, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkFury
My thing is... I'm wondering if I should go for a P4 2.4 and try to get it to O/C over 3 Ghz... or should I wait and just get one of the naturally faster chips (the 2.6 GHz or 3.0 GHz versions... but I don't know how well they overclock... )

supposedly the 2.6 oc's pretty well...not sure bout the 3

Showtime · 05-30-2003, 03:12 PM

CF,
I have to look for the AT review on that raptor HD, but I don't think it was worth the price of admission. I could be wrong but its worth checkin on before buying.

-jel

DaNewbie · 05-30-2003, 03:15 PM

Its worth the price...only thing that could possibly keep me away is the fact its a first gen drive, I tend to buy things after they've been through a first gen "testing". But the desktop benchmark scores on that drive are great. A bit pricy at 115 for 36gigs, but worth it IMHO.

DaNewbie · 05-30-2003, 05:14 PM

Raw affordable speed :p 15k.3 holds the record for raw speed. the raptor is optimized for desktop use. SCSI voodoocrap isn't too bad once you familiarize yourself with it

As for feeling faster, nothing can beat the raw smoothness that comes with a dually system

NuTs62 · 05-30-2003, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaNewbie
As for feeling faster, nothing can beat the raw smoothness that comes with a dually system

My dual system doesn't feel fast

baggio248 · 05-30-2003, 08:04 PM

I've been waiting to upgrade for a few months now. I've now gathered up all the stuff, and I'm actually in the middle of purchasing most of it. I was wondering if the 3.0C would drop anymore. Since i've been looking it's dropped about 80 bucks I plan on getting that with Asus P4C800 Deluxe i875P. I do need it now, but i'm afraid of buyers remorse and see it next week for 300.

Showtime · 05-30-2003, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaNewbie
Raw affordable speed :p 15k.3 holds the record for raw speed. the raptor is optimized for desktop use. SCSI voodoocrap isn't too bad once you familiarize yourself with it As for feeling faster, nothing can beat the raw smoothness that comes with a dually system

I got a 2.3/2.7 P4 hooked up to a KVM and two monitors. This setup runs pretty smooth and I can game and watch movies and stuff at the same time. Multitasks like a mofo!

Cf, re read my 1st post. 2.4 baby!

Att,
Wanna buy my 1.6a @ 2.3ghz combo?

-jel

sbp · 05-30-2003, 09:04 PM

"I was wondering if the 3.0C would drop anymore." Not for the near future. Intel just cut P4 prices on May 11th. The Pentium 4 3.2GHz CPU will come out {~$637

} before another price drop occurs.

DaNewbie · 05-30-2003, 09:58 PM

2.3 P4 AND a 2.7P4? wow, i only have a (partially built) dual 2.4xeon system and a puny 2100+ on a kvm :p I'm an obsessive multitasker, and responsivness is noticeably better on the dually (not to mention its just plain cool to see 4 graphs on the task manager

)

Quote:

Originally posted by the jello is jigglin

I got a 2.3/2.7 P4 hooked up to a KVM and two monitors. This setup runs pretty smooth and I can game and watch movies and stuff at the same time. Multitasks like a mofo!

Cf, re read my 1st post. 2.4 baby!

Att,
Wanna buy my 1.6a @ 2.3ghz combo?

-jel

Showtime · 05-31-2003, 01:34 AM

How much faster is that system with the dual procs?

Enquiring minds.........

-jel

DaNewbie · 05-31-2003, 02:01 AM

when I fired it up for a test run it was awesome, it was nice being able to encode video, and still be able to get some NS goin

now the system is all apart, thanks to my ongoing project of how to fit a dually xeon system AND watercool it....in an antec 1040sx

05-30-2003, 12:38 AM	#3
sbp Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 11,037	summer doldrums Yeah now is good time. Nothing really major is going to happen until Athlon 64, P4 Prescott, NV40 are launched end of year.

05-30-2003, 06:06 AM	#5
topane turducken all the time Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Between the wheels Posts: 5,055	I'm in the process of upgrading now. I just got a new MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R, and I'll be adding a CPU and RAM in the next couple of weeks. __________________ Shall we buy a new guitar? Shall we drive a more powerful car?

05-30-2003, 01:00 PM	#9
attgig Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the burbs of baltimore Posts: 11,924	sigh...only if I had $$. and i need a new system too! (Power outage killed my computer...i think..help!) can anybody lend me about 400 bucks so i can get myself a 2.4 system with some ram? I'll pay you back in January 2004. I already have upped my credit cards too mcuh.. I'm playing the transfer balances game. thinking about doing a home equity instead. sigh. my buddy is waiting till the new geforce comes out...and then doing his system. __________________ Last edited by attgig : 05-30-2003 at 01:04 PM.

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05-30-2003, 12:27 AM	#1
~~Cantacuzene~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 8,700	I upgraded last november, so not for me. All my friends who need upgrades I'm advising to do now.

05-30-2003, 12:29 AM	#2
Showtime Lakers fanatic Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: L.A. ->SoCal<- O.C. Posts: 7,338	You know im looking at the 865/p4c ht combo right now. Specifically that Albatron 865/ P4 2.4c for $300 at Frys. Got 2 sticks of SS 400ddr for my 1.8a that would run perfectly in the dual channel mobo. Should be able to clear 3.2 with that set up. Hopefully 3.5+ghz! I do anticipate some big price drops due to the fact that people dont need to upgrade many current systems and the new AMD chips. As always it will probably be cheaper a month later. or maybe I'll just put a dvd system in the truck........... -jel

05-30-2003, 03:20 AM	#4
DaNewbie Lieutenant Join Date: May 2000 Location: California, USA Posts: 460	yup, now is a good time to upgrade, I just splurged and got myself a dual xeon system

05-30-2003, 06:11 AM	#6
johnnymk Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: May 2000 Location: LEVITTOWN< PA> USA Posts: 13,621	From what I've read, there is still a lot of overcapacity in the hardware side of the computer industry. Plus this is the time which computer sellers try to market their wares to new college students. When you look at the prices of 52X CDRW's selling for $20 after rebate, 120 GB hard drives for $80 and 512 MB of decent memory for under $50, things must really be hurtin'. So I expect even further price drops.

05-30-2003, 10:21 AM	#7
ski Admiral Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 5,420	I'd definitely advise you to get a mobo with SATA. If you read the reviews over at NewEgg, customers who bought the 36.9GB 10,000 RPM SATA drive (I think by Seagate) are saying it's much faster than SCSI, and that Windows loads up in no time compared to 7200 RPM 8MB ATA drives. Wasn't long ago that 5400 RPM 2MB was fast

05-30-2003, 11:11 AM	#8
Showtime Lakers fanatic Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: L.A. ->SoCal<- O.C. Posts: 7,338	yep hd will make everything start faster. Btw, how loud are those 10,00 rpm drives? -jel

05-30-2003, 03:12 PM	#11
Showtime Lakers fanatic Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: L.A. ->SoCal<- O.C. Posts: 7,338	CF, I have to look for the AT review on that raptor HD, but I don't think it was worth the price of admission. I could be wrong but its worth checkin on before buying. -jel

05-30-2003, 03:15 PM	#12
DaNewbie Lieutenant Join Date: May 2000 Location: California, USA Posts: 460	Its worth the price...only thing that could possibly keep me away is the fact its a first gen drive, I tend to buy things after they've been through a first gen "testing". But the desktop benchmark scores on that drive are great. A bit pricy at 115 for 36gigs, but worth it IMHO.

05-30-2003, 05:14 PM	#13
DaNewbie Lieutenant Join Date: May 2000 Location: California, USA Posts: 460	Raw affordable speed :p 15k.3 holds the record for raw speed. the raptor is optimized for desktop use. SCSI voodoocrap isn't too bad once you familiarize yourself with it As for feeling faster, nothing can beat the raw smoothness that comes with a dually system

05-30-2003, 08:04 PM	#15
baggio248 Captain Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aurora, OH Posts: 1,967	I've been waiting to upgrade for a few months now. I've now gathered up all the stuff, and I'm actually in the middle of purchasing most of it. I was wondering if the 3.0C would drop anymore. Since i've been looking it's dropped about 80 bucks I plan on getting that with Asus P4C800 Deluxe i875P. I do need it now, but i'm afraid of buyers remorse and see it next week for 300.

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05-30-2003, 09:04 PM	#17
sbp Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 11,037	"I was wondering if the 3.0C would drop anymore." Not for the near future. Intel just cut P4 prices on May 11th. The Pentium 4 3.2GHz CPU will come out {~$637 } before another price drop occurs.

05-31-2003, 01:34 AM	#19
Showtime Lakers fanatic Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: L.A. ->SoCal<- O.C. Posts: 7,338	How much faster is that system with the dual procs? Enquiring minds......... -jel

05-31-2003, 02:01 AM	#20
DaNewbie Lieutenant Join Date: May 2000 Location: California, USA Posts: 460	when I fired it up for a test run it was awesome, it was nice being able to encode video, and still be able to get some NS goin now the system is all apart, thanks to my ongoing project of how to fit a dually xeon system AND watercool it....in an antec 1040sx