Hows this...

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-23-2003, 07:03 PM

Here are my specs...

WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 120GB 7200RPM
MSI Motherboard for Socket A Processor Model# K7T TURBO2
AMD ATHLON XP 2600 /333 FSB PROCESSOR
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! Dolby Digital 5.1 SB0220
GAINWARD GeForce 4, 8X AGP. Ti 4200, 3.6ns, 128MB
Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW

just need a case and I'm done...if any suggestions about changes please list.

TIA.

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-23-2003, 09:09 PM

can someone tell me if its a good setup?

bachviet · 07-23-2003, 09:22 PM

It's a pretty good setup but you need to give the price of this.

~~Cantacuzene~~ · 07-23-2003, 09:26 PM

First, you have no ram there. If you are not OCing then get pc2700, if you are OCing then use 3200 or higher.

Second, I don't know about that MSI mobo. The nforce2 chipset winners are the Asus or Abit. Unless you are getting a great deal on the MSI I really think you should reconsider your choice there.

GraingerGuy · 07-23-2003, 09:42 PM

For a motherboard brand, I would also consider Epox.

watanad · 07-23-2003, 09:43 PM

Um....I think the pc2700 vs pc3200 point is moot. That mobo only supports PC133. Actually, I don't think it'll support the fsb of your processor. Unless someone is giving it to you or you already own it, you should consider getting something else. I'm running one now, and it is soon to be replaced. I've never had any problems with it and its a good board, but it is just old.

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-23-2003, 10:08 PM

oh sorry Canta just forgot to put it in.

CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series 512MB 64MX64 PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreader OEM...

if you think I should go with another Corsair, please list. Btw any ideas with a case?

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-23-2003, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bachviet
It's a pretty good setup but you need to give the price of this.

Price is about $630.99 without a case at newegg.

If I switch a motherboard to the Asus A7N8X Deluxe that the price will be $717.98. which is about $90 dollar difference.

sbp · 07-23-2003, 10:25 PM

Yeah that VIA Apollo KT133A mobo is old news.

You can use the integrated nForce 2 mobo sound and not buy that mediocre Live soundcard.

Seems like you are trying to $ave money. If thats the case why go with Corsair which tends to cost more? Geil is iffy. OCZ can shove itself. I'd look at Crucial {good service}, Kingston or true Samsung ram.

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-23-2003, 10:35 PM

if I was to go with kingston ram, which should I get?

is it KINGSTON HyperX Series 184-pin 512MB Kit (2x 256MB) DDR333 (PC2700) DDR RAM modules?

Its seems like its the right one. Cause its only $112

Thesifer · 07-24-2003, 05:25 AM

Btw You guys are thinking of the Wrong Board..

The K7T TURBO2 is a 333mhz Board.. not a 133.. You are thinking of the OLD K7T .. they talk about that.. and people confusing them.. but its not an old board.. Just so ya know

~~Cantacuzene~~ · 07-24-2003, 06:22 AM

Even if its a 333fsb board I still wouldnt get it.

1. Its VIA. VIA boards have problems. Get an nforce2 board, they are rock solid stable.

2. Nforce2 boards have onboard sound, so you can save money by not buying a mediocre sound card. They have onboard lan too, so thats another less thing to buy.

3. Kingston ram is fine. Just dont buy PNY or some other crap.

4. Even if teh Asus, Abit or Epox board costs you $50 - $90 more I would pay it. The motherboard is teh most important component and the one you should skimp least on.

ski · 07-24-2003, 08:30 AM

For about $15 cheaper, you may want to consider going for the 2500+ Barton core CPU. In benchmarks, it can beat out the 2600+ in a number of the tests plus the higher core frequency (I think that's right), but if you do, pick up an ASUS A7N8X mobo for it

GraingerGuy · 07-24-2003, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skiAtomic
For about $15 cheaper, you may want to consider going for the 2500+ Barton core CPU. In benchmarks, it can beat out the 2600+ in a number of the tests plus the higher core frequency (I think that's right), but if you do, pick up an ASUS A7N8X mobo for it

And if you want to do some friendly overclocking, the 2500+ does clock pretty well from what I hear.

ski · 07-24-2003, 08:42 AM

Ooops, better make that $20 cheaper

Newegg has the RETAIL 2500+ for $83

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...103-379&depa=1

I've got mine running at 2800+ no problem, and even ran it at 3000+ for kicks... it's a beaut

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-24-2003, 03:03 PM

I might consider the 2500+ because its cheaper. So everything else is good right?

Heres my updated list.

WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 120GB 7200RPM
Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe
AMD ATHLON XP 2600 /333 FSB PROCESSOR (might consider the 2500)
GAINWARD GeForce 4, 8X AGP. Ti 4200, 3.6ns, 128MB
Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW
KINGSTON HyperX Series 184-pin 512MB Kit (2x 256MB) DDR333 (PC2700) DDR RAM modules

All this, less than $650

bachviet · 07-24-2003, 03:09 PM

That looks good but use the 2500+ Barton instead.

sbp · 07-24-2003, 03:13 PM

Sure the 2500+ will be fine.

Quote:

Originally posted by Thesifer
Btw You guys are thinking of the Wrong Board..

The K7T TURBO2 is a 333mhz Board.. not a 133.. You are thinking of the OLD K7T .. they talk about that.. and people confusing them.. but its not an old board.. Just so ya know

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/c...set=via_kt133a

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-24-2003, 03:13 PM

If I get with the 2500+ my new total price will be around $630. But the problem is I'm not really a overclocker. If I am going to overclock, about how much percent gain would i get.

t2aNc3_iNspi2eD · 07-24-2003, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bachviet
That looks good but use the 2500+ Barton instead.

with everyone saying I should go with the 2500+. I really might consider dropping the extra 30 dollars to get it. Because they are only 30 dollars difference between the 2600+ and the 2500+.

Oreoz · 07-31-2003, 03:44 PM

prices for AMD will drop pretty soon. Just wait till Mid August or September if your going to go with AMD. Thats just my opinion.

sbp · 07-31-2003, 10:19 PM

AMD just cut prices...but on the mobile and server application ones.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...729101447.html

They won't cut prices on the XP's until Intel does its price cuts in late October.

Oreoz · 07-31-2003, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sbp
AMD just cut prices...but on the mobile and server application ones.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...729101447.html

They won't cut prices on the XP's until Intel does its price cuts in late October.

alright cool, thanks for the update on XP cuts.

07-23-2003, 07:03 PM	#1
t2aNc3_iNspi2eD Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Represent'n da sixty-two-sixty Posts: 117	Hows this... Here are my specs... WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 120GB 7200RPM MSI Motherboard for Socket A Processor Model# K7T TURBO2 AMD ATHLON XP 2600 /333 FSB PROCESSOR Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! Dolby Digital 5.1 SB0220 GAINWARD GeForce 4, 8X AGP. Ti 4200, 3.6ns, 128MB Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW just need a case and I'm done...if any suggestions about changes please list. TIA.

07-23-2003, 09:42 PM	#5
GraingerGuy Rear Admiral Upper Half Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Working....and working...and working some more Posts: 3,573	For a motherboard brand, I would also consider Epox. __________________ potato gun + marshmallow gun = FLAMING MARSHMALLOWS OF DOOM!!!!! -Welfareloser 4/13/05 Time to switch to AMD now I guess... (just kidding... ) -Darkfury 5/23/05 I don't think this'll stop anything though - the better you idiot-proof a system, the more impressive the idiot becomes. -ShawnLee 5/30/08

07-23-2003, 10:35 PM	#10
t2aNc3_iNspi2eD Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Represent'n da sixty-two-sixty Posts: 117	if I was to go with kingston ram, which should I get? is it KINGSTON HyperX Series 184-pin 512MB Kit (2x 256MB) DDR333 (PC2700) DDR RAM modules? Its seems like its the right one. Cause its only $112 Last edited by t2aNc3_iNspi2eD : 07-23-2003 at 10:47 PM.

07-24-2003, 03:03 PM	#16
t2aNc3_iNspi2eD Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Represent'n da sixty-two-sixty Posts: 117	I might consider the 2500+ because its cheaper. So everything else is good right? Heres my updated list. WESTERN DIGITAL "SPECIAL EDITION" 120GB 7200RPM Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe AMD ATHLON XP 2600 /333 FSB PROCESSOR (might consider the 2500) GAINWARD GeForce 4, 8X AGP. Ti 4200, 3.6ns, 128MB Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW KINGSTON HyperX Series 184-pin 512MB Kit (2x 256MB) DDR333 (PC2700) DDR RAM modules All this, less than $650 Last edited by t2aNc3_iNspi2eD : 07-24-2003 at 03:07 PM.

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07-23-2003, 09:09 PM	#2
t2aNc3_iNspi2eD Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Represent'n da sixty-two-sixty Posts: 117	can someone tell me if its a good setup?

07-23-2003, 09:22 PM	#3
bachviet What's Da Pho*? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SoCal (714) Posts: 13,296	It's a pretty good setup but you need to give the price of this.

07-23-2003, 09:26 PM	#4
~~Cantacuzene~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 8,700	First, you have no ram there. If you are not OCing then get pc2700, if you are OCing then use 3200 or higher. Second, I don't know about that MSI mobo. The nforce2 chipset winners are the Asus or Abit. Unless you are getting a great deal on the MSI I really think you should reconsider your choice there.

07-23-2003, 09:43 PM	#6
watanad Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 56	Um....I think the pc2700 vs pc3200 point is moot. That mobo only supports PC133. Actually, I don't think it'll support the fsb of your processor. Unless someone is giving it to you or you already own it, you should consider getting something else. I'm running one now, and it is soon to be replaced. I've never had any problems with it and its a good board, but it is just old.

07-23-2003, 10:08 PM	#7
t2aNc3_iNspi2eD Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Represent'n da sixty-two-sixty Posts: 117	oh sorry Canta just forgot to put it in. CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series 512MB 64MX64 PC-3200C2PT With Platinum - Silver Heat Spreader OEM... if you think I should go with another Corsair, please list. Btw any ideas with a case?

07-23-2003, 10:25 PM	#9
sbp Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 11,037	Yeah that VIA Apollo KT133A mobo is old news. You can use the integrated nForce 2 mobo sound and not buy that mediocre Live soundcard. Seems like you are trying to $ave money. If thats the case why go with Corsair which tends to cost more? Geil is iffy. OCZ can shove itself. I'd look at Crucial {good service}, Kingston or true Samsung ram.

07-24-2003, 05:25 AM	#11
Thesifer Vice Admiral Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4,338	Btw You guys are thinking of the Wrong Board.. The K7T TURBO2 is a 333mhz Board.. not a 133.. You are thinking of the OLD K7T .. they talk about that.. and people confusing them.. but its not an old board.. Just so ya know

07-24-2003, 06:22 AM	#12
~~Cantacuzene~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Posts: 8,700	Even if its a 333fsb board I still wouldnt get it. 1. Its VIA. VIA boards have problems. Get an nforce2 board, they are rock solid stable. 2. Nforce2 boards have onboard sound, so you can save money by not buying a mediocre sound card. They have onboard lan too, so thats another less thing to buy. 3. Kingston ram is fine. Just dont buy PNY or some other crap. 4. Even if teh Asus, Abit or Epox board costs you $50 - $90 more I would pay it. The motherboard is teh most important component and the one you should skimp least on.

07-24-2003, 08:30 AM	#13
ski Admiral Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 5,420	For about $15 cheaper, you may want to consider going for the 2500+ Barton core CPU. In benchmarks, it can beat out the 2600+ in a number of the tests plus the higher core frequency (I think that's right), but if you do, pick up an ASUS A7N8X mobo for it

07-24-2003, 08:42 AM	#15
ski Admiral Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Utah Posts: 5,420	Ooops, better make that $20 cheaper Newegg has the RETAIL 2500+ for $83 http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...103-379&depa=1 I've got mine running at 2800+ no problem, and even ran it at 3000+ for kicks... it's a beaut

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07-24-2003, 03:09 PM	#17
bachviet What's Da Pho*? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SoCal (714) Posts: 13,296	That looks good but use the 2500+ Barton instead.

07-24-2003, 03:13 PM	#19
t2aNc3_iNspi2eD Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Represent'n da sixty-two-sixty Posts: 117	If I get with the 2500+ my new total price will be around $630. But the problem is I'm not really a overclocker. If I am going to overclock, about how much percent gain would i get.

07-31-2003, 03:44 PM	#21
Oreoz Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ~The other side of town~ Posts: 67	prices for AMD will drop pretty soon. Just wait till Mid August or September if your going to go with AMD. Thats just my opinion.

07-31-2003, 10:19 PM	#22
sbp Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 11,037	AMD just cut prices...but on the mobile and server application ones. http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...729101447.html They won't cut prices on the XP's until Intel does its price cuts in late October.