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Old 12-09-2003, 08:25 AM   #1
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Smile Calling all Electrical experts: Have 12 Volts, Need 5 Volts

A mobile radio at work runs off of 12V or 13.8V from a car battery, and one of the devices I'm working on operates on 4-5V DC. Is there something you can get to take those 13V or so from a battery and reduce the voltage?

My boss asked if there was a "DC-DC converter" or something like that, anyone have any electrical knowledge about this?
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Old 12-09-2003, 08:29 AM   #2
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All you need is a 5V DC-to-DC converter that supplies the proper amperage and should be OK.
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Old 12-09-2003, 09:05 AM   #3
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They sell these at Radio Shack? I'll do a quick check in the meantime on their website, I wonder if they're cheap...

At most, it'll draw 170 mA. I'm a struggling Electrical Engineering student, I know! So should I look for a DC-DC converter with amperage higher than 170 mA?

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or .... V=IR
V = 12-5 = 7volts
I = 170ma = 0.170amps
R = V/I = 7/0.170
R = 41.2 ohms

put a 42 ohm resistor in there
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Old 12-09-2003, 12:14 PM   #5
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They sell these at Radio Shack? I'll do a quick check in the meantime on their website, I wonder if they're cheap...

At most, it'll draw 170 mA. I'm a struggling Electrical Engineering student, I know! So should I look for a DC-DC converter with amperage higher than 170 mA?

Not only should be at the hut, but you probably can build one yourself from parts they sell.
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Old 12-09-2003, 12:15 PM   #6
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or .... V=IR
V = 12-5 = 7volts
I = 170ma = 0.170amps
R = V/I = 7/0.170
R = 41.2 ohms

put a 42 ohm resistor in there



Nice try, but its not that simple. A cars voltage can range anywhere from 9V when cranking to 15+ volts when running. Just a resistor can't handle this, which is why DC-DC converters exist.
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Old 12-09-2003, 01:30 PM   #7
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ok, then take 12 and change to 15 then carry out the equation... what device do you have?
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Old 12-09-2003, 01:38 PM   #8
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ok, then take 12 and change to 15 then carry out the equation... what device do you have?

A serial Bluetooth adapter... darn thing needs 5V EXTERNAL power to run But then again, most of us are spoiled by our external devices being powered by USB lately (my scanner doesn't even have an AC adapter)

Someone over at [H]ardOCP told me this:

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- Linear regulators: A darn good choice when you are dealing with low power requirements. You can buy about a million different types, and they typically only require a couple of caps and sometimes a couple of resistors. You'll get stable, quiet DC voltages with this setup. Easy to breadboard, too....

- Switching regulators: When you need a bunch of power, or if you have a big difference in incoming voltage (ie; +12 coming in, +1.0 out...), switchers are far more efficient than linears. Downside is you'll need a couple of caps, an inductor, and a couple of resistors, best case. Also, layout is a bit more critical, but it's within the capabilities of most of us.

Were it me, I'd get a little linear regulator in the 300 mA range. Newark, DigiKey, or maybe even Parts Express can hook you up pronto.
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Old 12-09-2003, 06:53 PM   #9
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A serial Bluetooth adapter... darn thing needs 5V EXTERNAL power to run But then again, most of us are spoiled by our external devices being powered by USB lately (my scanner doesn't even have an AC adapter)

Someone over at [H]ardOCP told me this:


A linear regulator (7805 series) is what you need. A resistor alone will not work (as the current flow changes so will the voltage seen by your device). You can use a zener/resistor combination, but why waste time with that when a 7805 will do everything you need.

Most 7805s will easily handle 1/4Amp without a heatsink and easily 3/4 to 1 Amp when properly sunk.
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Re: Calling all Electrical experts: Have 12 Volts, Need 5 Volts

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A mobile radio at work runs off of 12V or 13.8V from a car battery, and one of the devices I'm working on operates on 4-5V DC. Is there something you can get to take those 13V or so from a battery and reduce the voltage?

My boss asked if there was a "DC-DC converter" or something like that, anyone have any electrical knowledge about this?

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...Fid=273%2D1811
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Old 12-09-2003, 07:05 PM   #11
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Looking at the same site, here's the price for the 7805 regulator

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...%5Fid=276-1770
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