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Old 05-17-2004, 04:25 PM   #1
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power supply dead

hi my computer will not start, no lights no nothing. How do i confirm it as a power supply being dead?
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:36 PM   #2
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hi my computer will not start, no lights no nothing. How do i confirm it as a power supply being dead?

you just did.

but seriously, borrow someone's good PS, plug it in. if it still doesnt work, its the motherboard.
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:39 PM   #3
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Actually, I have a power supply tester... Unfortunately, you ain't in Indianapolis so that I can help you diagnose whether or not your P/S is shot.

But you can get one here yourself for $9.95 plus shipping if you like: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ATX-PT
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:43 PM   #4
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:00 PM   #5
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Update

ok update
plugged in new power supply didnt work tried old power supply again started working but computer starting beeping two diff tone beeps and it said cpu fan is not on but i looked and the CPU fan was on. I dont know why it does that every time i boot. the tone comes on and then it says "cpu fan not on shutdown (y/n)?" anyone know wat to do?
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Old 05-17-2004, 06:34 PM   #6
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If the fan is truly on and the mobo reports it's not on then I'd suggest flashing the bios to a newer version and see if that helps. If not, sounds like your motherboard is shot. Why the new powersupply didn't work is strange tho'.
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:31 PM   #7
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Honestly, I think your mobo might be fried...

If it was working fine before and just now stopped working... then I don't think that a flash is gonna fix it.

Is this a brand new computer? Or has it been around for awhile and is just now giving you problems?
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Old 05-17-2004, 08:44 PM   #8
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Hey DF,, he said his new powersupply didn't even post but the old one did. It's worth a shot at flashing it before giving up the ghost. It's a simple thing to attempt to correct his problem. If his motherboard is fried, it's fried, but it's worth checking. I love your positive attitude.
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Hey DF,, he said his new powersupply didn't even post but the old one did. It's worth a shot at flashing it before giving up the ghost. It's a simple thing to attempt to correct his problem. If his motherboard is fried, it's fried, but it's worth checking. I love your positive attitude.
Meh...

I've never even heard of "incompatible power supplies"... generally either they work or they don't (with a variance for wattage... of course. )

Positive attitude or not, it just sounds like his mobo was making it's last <BLIP>.

BTW... he never said if it got past POST and into Windows. If he can't boot to windows, then how is he gonna go download a new flash file? On top of that, if his P/S quits on him in the middle of flashing... well then, that's all she wrote.

I guess I'm just saying... the outlook just ain't good here. The new P/S shoulda worked if the old one was bad. The ATX main connector is pretty standard... and unless he is using an Intel chip (with the square 4 pin power connector), then I don't see why even the new P/S failed...

Beeps from the mobo state that something is wrong... maybe his RAM came unseated. Maybe the video card is loose? It could be a bunch of things once the P/S has been eliminated as the fault. But still... I don't quite get what a "flash" has to do with the P/S... I've never had to do that, but hey, I'm not saying that it "couldn't" be the problem... I just don't personally think that it will fix it (but that's just me. )
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Old 05-18-2004, 12:24 AM   #10
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dont fight guys...

ok so when i turn it on it boots and does the beep and says cpu fan not on so i press no for shutdown and everything works fine but i check my cpu temperature and its at 57 degrees celsius even tho i havent done anything. the computer is like 4 years old. athlon xp 2000+, msi mobo
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dont fight guys...

ok so when i turn it on it boots and does the beep and says cpu fan not on so i press no for shutdown and everything works fine but i check my cpu temperature and its at 57 degrees celsius even tho i havent done anything. the computer is like 4 years old. athlon xp 2000+, msi mobo
Do you physically see the CPU fan spinning? If it is, then maybe you are getting a "bad report" from the 3rd "reporting wire" on the fan connector (You know... the mobo fan plugs have 3 prongs and one of them reports fan status...) You might be able to disable fan reporting if it is giving you erroneous feedback... (but do so at your own risk...)

Either way... you may wanna keep an eye on that. Cause if that fan stops spinning, your CPU is toast (and it only takes a few minutes to fry... especially with an AMD chip)
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Do you physically see the CPU fan spinning? If it is, then maybe you are getting a "bad report" from the 3rd "reporting wire" on the fan connector (You know... the mobo fan plugs have 3 prongs and one of them reports fan status...) You might be able to disable fan reporting if it is giving you erroneous feedback... (but do so at your own risk...)

Either way... you may wanna keep an eye on that. Cause if that fan stops spinning, your CPU is toast (and it only takes a few minutes to fry... especially with an AMD chip)

Good Point DF,,, maybe you should get a new HS/Fan to be safe?
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Old 05-18-2004, 09:42 AM   #13
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yeah a new hs/fan i will try, thanks
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Old 05-18-2004, 10:44 AM   #14
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It seems that the bios went on the blink. If it's 4 years old the bios battery maybe getting weak. Spend a couple bucks to replace that just in case. Does your HSF plug into your motherboard or into a molex power cable. Most 3rd party HSF use a molex plug because the power they draw may burn out the mb fan connector. Anyway, the MB bios should a setting to disable that cpu fan warning and that may have been reset if the bios went out.
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