what HDTV to buy?

ApltnHkyMutt · 07-23-2001, 09:45 PM

Im in the market for an HDTV. it must have progressive scan built in, and has to be larger than 47in. no more than $3000.

Thanks any info is appreciated.

Full Monty · 07-26-2001, 11:55 PM

Just picked up a Pioneer 58" HDTV at Costco today for $2999.99. It's a pretty nice TV at a good price.

ArkiStan · 07-27-2001, 01:40 AM

Any ideas on when HD braodcast will become standard??

spigidygak · 07-29-2001, 10:46 AM

5-6 years if we're lucky. Right now the FCC and all of the broadcast channels are bitching over if they can charge for hdtv or not. So as long as the government actually fights for the consumers on this one, its gonna be a while. Especially since the broadcasters aren't too happy about having to upgrade all of their equipment to the even more pricier hdtv equipment.

ApltnHkyMutt · 07-31-2001, 03:22 AM

I heard that they all have to go DIGITAL by 2005. is that true?

LPMiller · 07-31-2001, 11:27 AM

no. It was the plan, but there has both been a lot of feet draging, some issues with the tech, and now, there is better tech out there, so the standards are a bit up in the air.

ApltnHkyMutt · 07-31-2001, 03:00 PM

OH ok thanks for the info. do you know when every things is supposed to be all DIGITAL?

gothamknight · 07-31-2001, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by DarkFury
Since DirecTV is the only HDTV signal provider right now and most of the TVs out right now inside of your price range don't come with a HDTV tuner (sold separately for $500 to $1000), I just didn't see the point with buying one since most folks can't even take advantage of it yet.

Actually, that's not true. The Dish Network also provides HDTV programming, and most major cities broadcast primetime programming OTA (over the air) using the UHF frequecies in HDTV.

As for myself, I bought an HDTV-ready widescreen Mitsubishi WT-46807 because I wanted a good home theater setup. When teamed with my Panasonic RP91 progressive-scan player and my Definitive Technology 5.1 speaker setup, the experience is quite immersive and impressive.

ApltnHkyMutt · 08-19-2001, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothamknight

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkFury
Since DirecTV is the only HDTV signal provider right now and most of the TVs out right now inside of your price range don't come with a HDTV tuner (sold separately for $500 to $1000), I just didn't see the point with buying one since most folks can't even take advantage of it yet.

Actually, that's not true. The Dish Network also provides HDTV programming, and most major cities broadcast primetime programming OTA (over the air) using the UHF frequecies in HDTV.

As for myself, I bought an HDTV-ready widescreen Mitsubishi WT-46807 because I wanted a good home theater setup. When teamed with my Panasonic RP91 progressive-scan player and my Definitive Technology 5.1 speaker setup, the experience is quite immersive and impressive.

I was planin on doing the same thing w/ the prog. dvd and satelite. and all that other good stuff!

ApltnHkyMutt · 09-06-2001, 07:52 PM

hmmmm. well there are already 4 channels that just switched im my area, dont know bout your area but all the local stations are anouncing there gonna change soon!!! [/font]

smeakim · 09-25-2001, 05:31 PM

You should get an HDTV ready but getting a tuner included limits you to the technology and quality at that time. So, if you get one included and the HDTV technology gets better as it becomes more main steam then you are stuck with the tuner you get at that time. Then if you want to upgrade but a new tv or get a a tuner to supplement. So, if you just get a HDTV ready then as technology increases you can buy the tuners when they come down to a reasonable price and you can have the latest.

gothamknight · 09-26-2001, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by DarkFury

Ok, honestly, I don't know ALL of the services that offer HDTV.. but the same intent of my original message still applies... you have to SUBSCRIBE to these services to get the HDTV signal...

Again, that's not true. You DO NOT HAVE TO PAY A SUBSCRIPTION FEE to get HDTV programming. The major networks (CBS, NBC, ABC and FOX) all broadcast HDTV programming OTA in almost all the major metropolitan areas.

The entire CBS primetime lineup (and I think some of their soaps but this I'm not sure about) is broadcast in HDTV.

NBC sucks - only the tonight show is broadcast in HDTV.

ABC broadcasts almost all of their entire primetime programming in HDTV. Monday Night Football was being broadcast in HDTV, and I think they've just completed negotiations to bring it back in HDTV.

I know X-Files is broadcast in HD, not sure about the rest of Fox's lineup.

What do you need to get this free HDTV programming? HDTV-ready set, HDTV tuner box, and a good UHF antenna. That's it.

Btw, current HDTV sets have pretty good line-doublers, so even regular TV can often look much better since there are no more scan lines!

gothamknight · 09-27-2001, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by DarkFury
I guess I don't live in a MAJOR METROPOLITAN area...since we don't have those.

So get off me dude... go troll on someone else.

So uh, where do you live? I'm in Brooklyn, and due to the loss of the WTC, a lot of our HDTV broadcasting has been affected. But it'll be fixed soon, from what I've been able to find out.

And sorry if it seemed like I was ripping on you; I just wanted to get the facts right is all...

gothamknight · 09-27-2001, 10:43 AM

I could be wrong but my information indicates that the local Indianapolis NBC affiliate, WTHR, is broadcasting a HDTV signal...

Anyway, I think we both made our points.

gothamknight · 09-27-2001, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkFury
Do you REALLY wanna prove me wrong that badly? Geez.

Not at all! I'm just an a/v nut who loves home theater. There might not be much HDTV programming but good GOD, there's no satisfaction than a really well-done DVD being shown in a great home theater setup. The magic of movies without the crowds, the $10 tickets, the sticky floors, the noisy crowds, etc.

Also, you can get an awesome Toshiba 40" widescreen HDTV-ready monitor for $1500... which is how much a lot of people pay for a 36" Sony Wega, not HD-ready and definitely not widescreen.

gothamknight · 09-27-2001, 09:45 PM

Cool, Toshiba makes some pretty darn good RPTVs...
As a matter of fact, I was thinking about their 65" HDTV unit for my second HDTV!

tongyang · 09-28-2001, 04:32 PM

I just bought a Toshiba 57" HDTV for $3000. Great set!

ApltnHkyMutt · 10-03-2001, 02:59 PM

Hmm im seriously thinkin bout buying a Mitsubishi platnum plus 50'or larger... hhhhhmmmm so what do you all think bout this set...

gothamknight · 10-05-2001, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by ApltnHkyMutt
Hmm im seriously thinkin bout buying a Mitsubishi platnum plus 50'or larger... hhhhhmmmm so what do you all think bout this set...

I have the Mitsu WT-46807, and it's great. Mitsu's can provide amazing pictures, but require a lot of TLC. On the down side, Mitsubishi HD-ready units are infamous for strong red push, so if you want accurate colors you'll have to buy a attenuator to correct the problem. After using an attenuator on my DVD red component cable and getting my unit ISF-certified, the picture is drop dead gorgeous.

Toshiba also makes excellent HDTVs.

giambona · 10-09-2001, 03:32 AM

Can someone describe what an attenuator is and where I can get one? I have a Mitsubishi 50" (not HDTV) and have always had problems with too much red.

Thanks!

gothamknight · 10-09-2001, 07:06 AM

The attentuator is an adapter for the red component video cable that balances out the red push in the TV itself. The attenuator only works with component video, so we're talking DVD players, external line-doublers and some HD-decoder boxes.

If you do a search for "attenuator" in the Mitsubishi or Mitsubishi tweaks forum at http://www.hometheaterspot.com you'll find two guys who are selling attentuators. If you're the handy type, you'll also find all the information you need to make one yourself from parts you can buy at your local Radio Shack. Good luck!

07-29-2001, 10:46 AM	#4
spigidygak Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: Redlands & San Diego, CA. Posts: 5,882	5-6 years if we're lucky. Right now the FCC and all of the broadcast channels are bitching over if they can charge for hdtv or not. So as long as the government actually fights for the consumers on this one, its gonna be a while. Especially since the broadcasters aren't too happy about having to upgrade all of their equipment to the even more pricier hdtv equipment. __________________

07-31-2001, 11:27 AM	#6
LPMiller Chief News Editor & Master of His Domain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 6,489	no. It was the plan, but there has both been a lot of feet draging, some issues with the tech, and now, there is better tech out there, so the standards are a bit up in the air. __________________ lpmiller Chief News Editor Nobel Prize Nominee Reverend in the Universal Life Church Once Shot A Man For Snoring Too Loud Way Too Lazy To Change His Signature "The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference." - Calvin and Hobbes

09-25-2001, 05:31 PM	#11
smeakim Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: CO Posts: 561	HDTV Tuner Included You should get an HDTV ready but getting a tuner included limits you to the technology and quality at that time. So, if you get one included and the HDTV technology gets better as it becomes more main steam then you are stuck with the tuner you get at that time. Then if you want to upgrade but a new tv or get a a tuner to supplement. So, if you just get a HDTV ready then as technology increases you can buy the tuners when they come down to a reasonable price and you can have the latest.

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giambona Lieutenant Commander Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 561	Can someone describe what an attenuator is and where I can get one? I have a Mitsubishi 50" (not HDTV) and have always had problems with too much red. Thanks! __________________ Pinnacle Deals

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07-23-2001, 09:45 PM	#1
ApltnHkyMutt Captain Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin, Appleton Posts: 1,866	Im in the market for an HDTV. it must have progressive scan built in, and has to be larger than 47in. no more than $3000. Thanks any info is appreciated.

07-26-2001, 11:55 PM	#2
Full Monty Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 235	Just picked up a Pioneer 58" HDTV at Costco today for $2999.99. It's a pretty nice TV at a good price.

07-27-2001, 01:40 AM	#3
ArkiStan Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: living with my mommy Posts: 5,543	Any ideas on when HD braodcast will become standard??

07-31-2001, 03:22 AM	#5
ApltnHkyMutt Captain Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin, Appleton Posts: 1,866	I heard that they all have to go DIGITAL by 2005. is that true?

07-31-2001, 03:00 PM	#7
ApltnHkyMutt Captain Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin, Appleton Posts: 1,866	OH ok thanks for the info. do you know when every things is supposed to be all DIGITAL?

09-06-2001, 07:52 PM	#10
ApltnHkyMutt Captain Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin, Appleton Posts: 1,866	hmmmm. well there are already 4 channels that just switched im my area, dont know bout your area but all the local stations are anouncing there gonna change soon!!! [/font]

09-27-2001, 10:43 AM	#14
gothamknight Ensign Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 18	I could be wrong but my information indicates that the local Indianapolis NBC affiliate, WTHR, is broadcasting a HDTV signal... Anyway, I think we both made our points.

09-27-2001, 09:45 PM	#16
gothamknight Ensign Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 18	Cool, Toshiba makes some pretty darn good RPTVs... As a matter of fact, I was thinking about their 65" HDTV unit for my second HDTV!

09-28-2001, 04:32 PM	#17
tongyang Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Chantilly, VA, USA Posts: 464	I just bought a Toshiba 57" HDTV for $3000. Great set!

10-03-2001, 02:59 PM	#18
ApltnHkyMutt Captain Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin, Appleton Posts: 1,866	Hmm im seriously thinkin bout buying a Mitsubishi platnum plus 50'or larger... hhhhhmmmm so what do you all think bout this set...

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10-09-2001, 07:06 AM	#21
gothamknight Ensign Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 18	The attentuator is an adapter for the red component video cable that balances out the red push in the TV itself. The attenuator only works with component video, so we're talking DVD players, external line-doublers and some HD-decoder boxes. If you do a search for "attenuator" in the Mitsubishi or Mitsubishi tweaks forum at http://www.hometheaterspot.com you'll find two guys who are selling attentuators. If you're the handy type, you'll also find all the information you need to make one yourself from parts you can buy at your local Radio Shack. Good luck!