Finally pulled the trigger on the Big-Screen. Opinions?

cheapie · 03-12-2005, 09:51 AM

i bought this last night.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/prod...il.do?oid=94680

i checked out the AVSforum and it got pretty good reviews. i would have upgrade to the 85 series but it would have cost me another $850 or so and i am already spending more than i planned on the whole setup. they didn't have it in stock so i'll get it when i get back from vegas next friday.

i was 2499, plus $400 for the maintenance/protection plan. i received $200 in gift cards plus about $85 more because of the BB points.

i also bought the LG upconverting DVD player at CC for $200. I'll look around and see if i can find it cheaper elsewhere. If it's more than $20 cheapier, i'll return it. very slim profile.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....7&type=product

picked up this component cable for my xbox as well

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1089890861880

between these purchases, the washer and dishwasher i bought at sears, and a screwup at best buy where he had to refund the purchase and recharge it, i had to speak with Citibank and tell them i was indeed me who was using the card. lol. i think that's a sign i'm spending too much money.

LPMiller · 03-12-2005, 10:25 AM

that's a nice damn TV, actually. I've had a few in the shop, and Samsung just makes good stuff.

bachviet · 03-12-2005, 11:54 AM

Congratst man.

You should have gotten it at Costco though because it's a very good return/exchange policy (lifetime I heard). Costco also has the Samsung HD up-convert DVD player for $99.

navyones · 03-12-2005, 12:31 PM

"GOT APEX" Superbowl Party at Cheapie's house! Real nice set-up!

kimchicowboy · 03-12-2005, 07:06 PM

good stuff man. uber cool.

Airencracken · 03-12-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navyones

"GOT APEX" Superbowl Party at Cheapie's house! Real nice set-up!

I'll bring a napkin!

cheapie · 03-13-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachviet

Congratst man.

You should have gotten it at Costco though because it's a very good return/exchange policy (lifetime I heard). Costco also has the Samsung HD up-convert DVD player for $99.

i don't think that policy covers normal stuff like bulb replacement.

verve247 · 03-13-2005, 03:03 PM

Looks like a nice setup. Your cc link isnt working, what are the specs on the tv?

cheapie · 03-13-2005, 10:15 PM

Weighing less than 78 pounds and less than 14.5 inches deep, the HL-P5063W offers more viewing screen and less bulkiness. A single, postage stamp-sized Digital Micro-Mirror Device (DMD) generates high definition video images. Experience film-like video images with deeper blacks and more robust colors on this DLP television.
DLP (Digital Light Processing) TV (1280 x 720 Pixels)
Samsung Cinema Smooth Gen 3 HD Third Generation Light Engine
Single Panel Digital Micro-Mirror Device (DMD) Design
No Possibility of Convergence Errors
High Output 0.55" DLP Technology by Texas Instruments
Smooth Film-Like Pixel Free Images
1500:1 Contrast Ratio with Outstanding Color and Deep Black Levels
DVI HDTV Input (Digital Visual Interface)
HDMI Input (High Definition Multimedia Interface)
2 Component Video Inputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i)
Samsung's Latest Generation DNIe Video Enhancer
Cimema Smooth Film-Mode 3:2 Pull Down Powered by Genesis
1280 x 720 Digital Format Converter for All Inputs
HDTV Performance with Add-On HDTV Tuner or HD Receiver
No Screen Aging or Burn-In Effects for Worry-Free Enjoyment
30-Watt Stereo Audio System with SRS TruSurround XT
PC Input, 3 S-Video Inputs (1 Side, 2 Rear), 3 Composite Video Inputs (1 Side, 2 Rear)
Lamp Life: 5000 - 8000 Hours
3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter
2-Tuner PIP With Side-by-Side Split Screen
Audio Mode Preset with 5 Modes (Sports, Movies, Music, Speech and Custom)
Picture Format Size Adjustment
Picture Mode Preset with 3 Modes (Standard, Cinema, Dynamic)
Universal Remote Control
Previous Channel Function
Trilingual On-Screen Displays (English, Spanish and French)
V-Chip Parental Control
Discrete IR Codes
77.2 lbs.
46.5" x 34.3" x 14.1"

http://www.samsungusa.com/SamsungUSA...17/hlp5063.pdf

Merlin · 03-14-2005, 07:05 AM

Nicely done!

Yesterday I pulled the trigger on the 46 inch version. Bestbuy was selling it for $1700 plus the free stereo. They should be delivering it on Tuesday. I just hope I can fit it in my place.

I am still trying to decide on the maintenance/protection plan. Do you think it is necessary on TVs like this? How often do the bulbs go bad? And do they need to be professionally replaced?

cheapie · 03-14-2005, 07:34 AM

i'm more worried about the color wheel and other internal items. i look at the avsforum threads on the newer RP tv's and they convinced me that since a lot of this is newer technology, i'm gonna want to pull a DF and make sure i'm insured.

IrishSS · 03-14-2005, 08:22 AM

Im not sure on how much the warranty is for the $1700 model, but in both Cheapie's and my situations, I feel it is more than worth it. I dropped $4000 on my TV when I got it... $600 for a warranty was a lot yes, but I have the piece of mind know that if anything happens within the next 5 years, bulbs included, I either get it fixed or get a new TV. It's just that simple.

For a $1700 item... is $400 worth it? I don't know...

Also, another selling point for me... DLP is newer technology. Who knows what may go wrong with it in the next few years.

verve247 · 03-14-2005, 02:52 PM

DLP tv's rock. The screens are so bright.

ArkiStan · 03-15-2005, 07:43 AM

samsung DLPs rock.
My parents were torn between the Samsung DLP and the LG PDP. My mom
eventually leaned toward the thinness of the PDP. Looks beautiful, even for
regular broadcast TV!!

Merlin · 03-15-2005, 08:18 AM

Best Buy just delivered it this morning. I can't wait to get home from work and start watching it. Picture just looks fabulous. So far me very happy.

brainsmile · 03-15-2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachviet

Congratst man.

You should have gotten it at Costco though because it's a very good return/exchange policy (lifetime I heard). Costco also has the Samsung HD up-convert DVD player for $99.

as much as they say lifetime it's usually not true. Someone recently tried to return a 1985 TV.

Hey Cheapie... what size is it?

cheapie · 03-15-2005, 05:12 PM

50 inches of pure sexy dlp goodness! lol. i get it this saturday. i opted against having it deliverd because i, ummm, am cheapie. lol.

isn't it amazing at how you increase what you want when you start looking? i was looking at a 36 inch tube tv, then a 43 inch sammy, then i just thought, wth, why not just buy the bigger one?

Merlin · 03-16-2005, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapie

i opted against having it deliverd because i, ummm, am cheapie. lol.

I hear ya but I had to do it. I live on the third floor. I drive a two seater convert Z# so it ain't fittin' in. My back is maybe not so good. And delivery was only $40.

I got to spend some time watching it last night and am very pleased. DVDs look just plain awsome. Me very happy.

When the weekend gets here cheapie, you'll be a very happy camper.

cheapie · 03-16-2005, 08:34 AM

do you have an upconverting dvd player?

Merlin · 03-16-2005, 09:30 AM

No, just a regular progressive scan one with component video outputs. To tell you the embarassing truth I don't even know what an upconverter is.

BrewMaster · 03-16-2005, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlin

To tell you the embarassing truth I don't even know what an upconverter is.

it's the thing-a-ma-bob with the watch-a-ma-jig in it that does watchamacalit so you have fancy doodads.

(i have no idea either.)

IrishSS · 03-16-2005, 09:51 AM

DVD's are not, common to popular belief, HD by nature. The DVD versions of films you see are compressed from their original HD format to fit on DVD-media. THis causes them to be "recorded" in 480i. Most standard DVD players are 480i. Quite a few are now Progressive Scan capable, which means it will draw each line in one pass instead of every other one. That gives you 480p for an output.

An upconverting player takes that 480i/p signal and converts it to 720i, 720p or 1080i. Higher numbers equals better resolution. Depending on the source material, sometimes 1080i will look better, sometimes 720p will. It's basically up to you and your TV.

bachviet · 03-16-2005, 10:03 AM

My next TV is a Samsung 46" DLP projection TV (for my bedroom).

cheapie · 03-16-2005, 10:22 AM

so do i have to manually change how it upconverts or does it automatically recognize which one is best?

Merlin · 03-16-2005, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrishSS

DVD's are not, common to popular belief, HD by nature. The DVD versions of films you see are compressed from their original HD format to fit on DVD-media. THis causes them to be "recorded" in 480i. Most standard DVD players are 480i. Quite a few are now Progressive Scan capable, which means it will draw each line in one pass instead of every other one. That gives you 480p for an output.

An upconverting player takes that 480i/p signal and converts it to 720i, 720p or 1080i. Higher numbers equals better resolution. Depending on the source material, sometimes 1080i will look better, sometimes 720p will. It's basically up to you and your TV.

Okay, so to put a movie onto a DVD it needs to get compressed. That I knew. And compression is a matter of discarding all the "unimportant" bits. But once it is gone how can a DVD player upconvert? I mean it sounds like the DVD player has to go through some formula to make something out of nothing. Is that right? And if so does it really make a big difference in the picture?

cheapie · 03-19-2005, 02:42 AM

unfreakinbelievable. got it in the house. watched the incredibles....o...m...g...!!!!!

not overlly happy with the xbox look tho'. it had serious lag until i went in and changed the settings on the xbox to enable the 480. but then the tv just had a blank screen but still had the sound until i turned it on an off. hmmmm.....we'll see if it's a real problem.

but let me tell you...halo 2 in 50"? sick. just sick.

Merlin · 03-19-2005, 05:26 AM

Ahhh today cheapie=

IrishSS · 03-19-2005, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapie

unfreakinbelievable. got it in the house. watched the incredibles....o...m...g...!!!!!

OMG!!!! x2!

Not only is it a great movie, it is un-fricken-belivable in HD. By far the best looking movie I have ever watched, and I've seen a ton on the new TV. It's funny... the Pixar ones are the best by far. Toy Story, Ants, Finding Nemo... and now The Incredibles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapie

changed the settings on the xbox to enable the 480...

I'm no Xbox expert, but doesnt it do 720p for most games? If so, enable that... =)

cheapie · 03-21-2005, 08:11 AM

i'm returning the POS LG dvd player and getting the Panny S97S.

do we have any pull w/onecall here to get a deal? $20 S&H = Rape!

attgig · 03-21-2005, 08:49 AM

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=319938

i've ordered from b&h before, and they were good...

http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1914.html

might wanna save u some bucks...being cheapie and all.

03-12-2005, 09:51 AM	#1
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	Finally pulled the trigger on the Big-Screen. Opinions? i bought this last night. http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/prod...il.do?oid=94680 i checked out the AVSforum and it got pretty good reviews. i would have upgrade to the 85 series but it would have cost me another $850 or so and i am already spending more than i planned on the whole setup. they didn't have it in stock so i'll get it when i get back from vegas next friday. i was 2499, plus $400 for the maintenance/protection plan. i received $200 in gift cards plus about $85 more because of the BB points. i also bought the LG upconverting DVD player at CC for $200. I'll look around and see if i can find it cheaper elsewhere. If it's more than $20 cheapier, i'll return it. very slim profile. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....7&type=product picked up this component cable for my xbox as well http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1089890861880 between these purchases, the washer and dishwasher i bought at sears, and a screwup at best buy where he had to refund the purchase and recharge it, i had to speak with Citibank and tell them i was indeed me who was using the card. lol. i think that's a sign i'm spending too much money. __________________ 70% of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Bob Sanders Last edited by cheapie : 03-12-2005 at 09:54 AM.

03-12-2005, 10:25 AM	#2
LPMiller Chief News Editor & Master of His Domain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Minnesota Posts: 8,161	that's a nice damn TV, actually. I've had a few in the shop, and Samsung just makes good stuff. __________________ lpmiller Chief News Editor Nobel Prize Nominee Reverend in the Universal Life Church Once Shot A Man For Snoring Too Loud Way Too Lazy To Change His Signature "The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference." - Calvin and Hobbes

03-12-2005, 11:54 AM	#3
bachviet What's Da Pho*? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SoCal (714) Posts: 13,296	Congratst man. You should have gotten it at Costco though because it's a very good return/exchange policy (lifetime I heard). Costco also has the Samsung HD up-convert DVD player for $99. __________________ Dell Dimension 9200 \| Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.4GHz) \| 4x1GB DDR2 \| 256MB nVidia GeForce 8800GT Dell Studio 17 \| Intel Core i7-720QM (1.6GHz) \| 2x2GB DDR3 1066MHz \| 1GHz ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 Intel P4-C 3.0GHz \| ECS 865PE-A \| 3x512MB PC3200 \| 128MB PNY GeForce 6600GT Last edited by bachviet : 03-12-2005 at 11:56 AM.

03-12-2005, 07:06 PM	#5
kimchicowboy Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: in the middle of the pacific ocean Posts: 5,344	good stuff man. uber cool. __________________ "I pick my nose too but never eat it." - bachviet, 3/30/04 if anyone wants to go scuba diving in oahu or wants to learn who to scuba dive in oahu, PM me.

03-13-2005, 03:03 PM	#8
verve247 Commander Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,486	Looks like a nice setup. Your cc link isnt working, what are the specs on the tv? __________________ Vegetarian - Old indian word meaning poor hunter.

03-12-2005, 12:31 PM	#4
navyones Captain Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,811	"GOT APEX" Superbowl Party at Cheapie's house! Real nice set-up!

03-13-2005, 10:15 PM	#9
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	Weighing less than 78 pounds and less than 14.5 inches deep, the HL-P5063W offers more viewing screen and less bulkiness. A single, postage stamp-sized Digital Micro-Mirror Device (DMD) generates high definition video images. Experience film-like video images with deeper blacks and more robust colors on this DLP television. DLP (Digital Light Processing) TV (1280 x 720 Pixels) Samsung Cinema Smooth Gen 3 HD Third Generation Light Engine Single Panel Digital Micro-Mirror Device (DMD) Design No Possibility of Convergence Errors High Output 0.55" DLP Technology by Texas Instruments Smooth Film-Like Pixel Free Images 1500:1 Contrast Ratio with Outstanding Color and Deep Black Levels DVI HDTV Input (Digital Visual Interface) HDMI Input (High Definition Multimedia Interface) 2 Component Video Inputs (480i/480p/720p/1080i) Samsung's Latest Generation DNIe Video Enhancer Cimema Smooth Film-Mode 3:2 Pull Down Powered by Genesis 1280 x 720 Digital Format Converter for All Inputs HDTV Performance with Add-On HDTV Tuner or HD Receiver No Screen Aging or Burn-In Effects for Worry-Free Enjoyment 30-Watt Stereo Audio System with SRS TruSurround XT PC Input, 3 S-Video Inputs (1 Side, 2 Rear), 3 Composite Video Inputs (1 Side, 2 Rear) Lamp Life: 5000 - 8000 Hours 3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter 2-Tuner PIP With Side-by-Side Split Screen Audio Mode Preset with 5 Modes (Sports, Movies, Music, Speech and Custom) Picture Format Size Adjustment Picture Mode Preset with 3 Modes (Standard, Cinema, Dynamic) Universal Remote Control Previous Channel Function Trilingual On-Screen Displays (English, Spanish and French) V-Chip Parental Control Discrete IR Codes 77.2 lbs. 46.5" x 34.3" x 14.1" http://www.samsungusa.com/SamsungUSA...17/hlp5063.pdf

03-14-2005, 07:05 AM	#10
Merlin Admiral Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Square On My Arse Posts: 7,410	Nicely done! Yesterday I pulled the trigger on the 46 inch version. Bestbuy was selling it for $1700 plus the free stereo. They should be delivering it on Tuesday. I just hope I can fit it in my place. I am still trying to decide on the maintenance/protection plan. Do you think it is necessary on TVs like this? How often do the bulbs go bad? And do they need to be professionally replaced? __________________

03-14-2005, 07:34 AM	#11
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	i'm more worried about the color wheel and other internal items. i look at the avsforum threads on the newer RP tv's and they convinced me that since a lot of this is newer technology, i'm gonna want to pull a DF and make sure i'm insured.

03-14-2005, 08:22 AM	#12
IrishSS Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: NoVa Posts: 2,644	Im not sure on how much the warranty is for the $1700 model, but in both Cheapie's and my situations, I feel it is more than worth it. I dropped $4000 on my TV when I got it... $600 for a warranty was a lot yes, but I have the piece of mind know that if anything happens within the next 5 years, bulbs included, I either get it fixed or get a new TV. It's just that simple. For a $1700 item... is $400 worth it? I don't know... Also, another selling point for me... DLP is newer technology. Who knows what may go wrong with it in the next few years. __________________ Spigs, you MFR#1N!

03-14-2005, 02:52 PM	#13
verve247 Commander Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,486	DLP tv's rock. The screens are so bright.

03-15-2005, 07:43 AM	#14
ArkiStan Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: Recession Central Posts: 5,898	samsung DLPs rock. My parents were torn between the Samsung DLP and the LG PDP. My mom eventually leaned toward the thinness of the PDP. Looks beautiful, even for regular broadcast TV!!

03-15-2005, 08:18 AM	#15
Merlin Admiral Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Square On My Arse Posts: 7,410	Best Buy just delivered it this morning. I can't wait to get home from work and start watching it. Picture just looks fabulous. So far me very happy.

03-15-2005, 05:12 PM	#17
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	50 inches of pure sexy dlp goodness! lol. i get it this saturday. i opted against having it deliverd because i, ummm, am cheapie. lol. isn't it amazing at how you increase what you want when you start looking? i was looking at a 36 inch tube tv, then a 43 inch sammy, then i just thought, wth, why not just buy the bigger one?

03-16-2005, 08:34 AM	#19
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	do you have an upconverting dvd player?

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03-16-2005, 09:30 AM	#20
Merlin Admiral Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Square On My Arse Posts: 7,410	No, just a regular progressive scan one with component video outputs. To tell you the embarassing truth I don't even know what an upconverter is.

03-16-2005, 09:51 AM	#22
IrishSS Rear Admiral Lower Half Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: NoVa Posts: 2,644	DVD's are not, common to popular belief, HD by nature. The DVD versions of films you see are compressed from their original HD format to fit on DVD-media. THis causes them to be "recorded" in 480i. Most standard DVD players are 480i. Quite a few are now Progressive Scan capable, which means it will draw each line in one pass instead of every other one. That gives you 480p for an output. An upconverting player takes that 480i/p signal and converts it to 720i, 720p or 1080i. Higher numbers equals better resolution. Depending on the source material, sometimes 1080i will look better, sometimes 720p will. It's basically up to you and your TV.

03-16-2005, 10:03 AM	#23
bachviet What's Da Pho*? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SoCal (714) Posts: 13,296	My next TV is a Samsung 46" DLP projection TV (for my bedroom).

03-16-2005, 10:22 AM	#24
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	so do i have to manually change how it upconverts or does it automatically recognize which one is best?

03-19-2005, 02:42 AM	#26
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	unfreakinbelievable. got it in the house. watched the incredibles....o...m...g...!!!!! not overlly happy with the xbox look tho'. it had serious lag until i went in and changed the settings on the xbox to enable the 480. but then the tv just had a blank screen but still had the sound until i turned it on an off. hmmmm.....we'll see if it's a real problem. but let me tell you...halo 2 in 50"? sick. just sick.

03-19-2005, 05:26 AM	#27
Merlin Admiral Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Square On My Arse Posts: 7,410	Ahhh today cheapie=

03-21-2005, 08:11 AM	#29
cheapie Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raising my pimp hand strong Posts: 13,038	i'm returning the POS LG dvd player and getting the Panny S97S. do we have any pull w/onecall here to get a deal? $20 S&H = Rape!

03-21-2005, 08:49 AM	#30
attgig Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: the burbs of baltimore Posts: 11,924	http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=319938 i've ordered from b&h before, and they were good... http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1914.html might wanna save u some bucks...being cheapie and all. __________________

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