Get $5 to your paypal account for you old used amazon/mci gift code!

[ps2laker]

just email shaqmikeneal@yahoo.com with your already used gift code and he'll send you $5 to your paypal account. its easy $5

[mysterX]

Do I smell a scam/scheme going on here?

[Thorin78]

he's posted this here too
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showth...258#post109258

[twiggyop]

Somehow I get the feeling he is trying to figure out the patterns in the codes(or already has)

[Phnem]

yeah sounds like it ... i doubt he will give out any money, just trying to make a generator for GCs ... man that would be cool to have

[ps2laker]

on the contrary. someone gave me their code and i just sent them $5 some guy named flying something.
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[ProMinx]

a gc generator would be cool...but really immoral. where are the standard Got|Apex? moral police on this one? I'd have a hard time forcing myself not to use that generator if i had it though...
ProMinx

[ps2laker]

well i dont know about any generator. i'm just trying to get as many as possible and try to see if theres any patterns.

[singal3]

Originally posted by ps2laker
well i dont know about any generator. i'm just trying to get as many as possible and try to see if theres any patterns.

Its funny how your first sentence was and I quote
"just email shaqmikeneal@yahoo.com with your already used gift code and he'll send you $5 to your paypal account. its easy $5"

and now all of a sudden you are trying to find a pattern, not he... Well anyways, I dont know what your thinking, this would be considered fraud, I should know I am an attorney. I would hope for your sake you dont figure out the pattern, cause internet fraud is considered mail fraud, which they don't look to friendly upon. Furthermore, your putting this website at risk for aiding you in this quest. I dont mean to just criticize or be anal, but you are jeopardizing a lot of people here. And frankly its not something that will not figured out.

[INeedAVacation]

I sent him my used gift certificate and he did send me $5 via paypal. I think its pretty cool; I switched to MCI and got $150 in a gift certificate, $10 towards my MCI bill, and now $5 for selling my used code. This is a deal! I would advize people to sell them their used certificate because he did pay me the $5 for mine.

[dag16]

dude,
if you're trying to figure out the "pattern" for alphanumeric 17 letter codes, you're going to need a hell of a lot bigger sample size than you can get here, or afford to get anywhere else.
Either that or you don't know anything about cyclotomic cosets and how they come up with these numbers anyways.

[shaggymatt]

Why hasn't this thread been moved to the self referrals/spam forum if not totally deleted anyway?

I would not sell my used code, as that is really helping out his cause, and if he were to get busted, my guess is that something would come down on you as well.

Moderators you out there???

[methodMan]

DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to do with ps2laker and neither support nor condemn his efforts in this regard - I'm just an interested pattern matcher (by trade).

if you're trying to figure out the "pattern" for alphanumeric 17 letter codes, you're going to need a hell of a lot bigger sample size than you can get here, or afford to get anywhere else.
Either that or you don't know anything about cyclotomic cosets and how they come up with these numbers anyways.

Are you saying that you know they use cyclotomic cosets to generate the codes?

I'm only vaugely familiar with them - I know they are used in error correction for communications, but I wasn't aware of this application. I assume a given non-sequentially generated sample of codes would thus appear psudo-random, under your estimation of the coding scheme?

If this is not the case, is it not reasonable to assume that the possibility may exist to extract a pattern from a very small sample of the codes, perhaps using a hidden Markov model, classification via regression, or some other trick? And without at least collecting the small sample which he is attempting, how are we to know what they are doing exactly? After all, its unlikely that he needs to exactly reproduce the original code generation engine - its more likely that there are an infinite number of possible engines which can generate a subset of the same output (each of which would be valid).

Why hasn't this thread been moved to the self referrals/spam forum if not totally deleted anyway?

Is it really THAT hard to hit your back button? Damn - this is a deal for those that choose to take him up on the offer, it IS free money after all!




[Edited by methodMan on 12-29-2000 at 07:50 AM]

[dag16]

I don't know for sure if they are using cyclotomic cosets to generate these things.

I would assume that the easiest way to create a safe code would be to start with a generator polynomial(say length l), multiply that by polynomials(with powers of 17 - l) and then boom, you have a whole set of safe codes, which would look random to us, but would be easy for them to check if it was an original code by modding it with the generator polynomial.

Since it has hard to factor these long polynomials out(x^612 as the lead digit in a polynomial is kind of a sign of a long polynomial to me), its hard to get the generator polynomial.

maybe someone who knows a little more about crypto could enlighten us, I'm just taking it from the error control coding side(as Methodman thought)

[shaggymatt]

Hmmm $5 whole dollars or aiding a crimial...

Seems to me that a legal defense would cost more than the $5 you'll get in the unlikely event something was figured out and then charges were brought against him. But if something did happen, its gonna cost you more than $5 to get your butt out of trouble.

But maybe singal3 can fill us in more on that one.

Free money yes -- Strings attached, possibly!

[phredd]

You know, if ps2laker ever figures anything out, GotApex would be subpoenaed for any information regarding ps2laker. In fact, there would be a great chance that anyone who gives ps2laker his or her code would also be subpoenaed. And let's not forget that PayPal will have oodles of information about you that it would be required to hand-over under a subpoena. This is really a poor way to commit a crime. There's a paper trail a mile wide.

[ps2laker]

hey if i knew this was going to cause so much trouble i never would have started it so i give up. dont want to get in any trouble. just wanted to have fun.

for anyone heres some of what i got


MCKM-A7CWTU-54668G
mce8-7gg62f-xzmp8w
mc77-mzgye9-nenten
mcq6-b73234-umty2u
MCPS-NT8B3L-KKS9GZ

[ArkiStan]

awwwww~~....
all you guys ruined it for him!! He was only trying to have "some fun!"

[ps2laker]

sniffle sniffle boohoo i want my mommy

[INeedAVacation]

I sold him my used gift certificate code, that's all. There is nothing illegal about that. He can do with it whatever he wants, that's up to him. It is my code and I can do with it whatever I want. Anyone else wanna buy my code? haha-you guys are such wussies!