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Old 04-11-2000, 08:12 PM   #1
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Join the following clubs - they are used to building huge downline for your pay-to-surf programs.
http://www.perpetual-income.com/signup.asp?Ref=6627
(use referral ID 6627)
http://www.refercentral.com/join.asp?Referrer=tongyang
(use referral ID: tongyang)

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Old 04-12-2000, 01:08 AM   #2
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Another one:
http://www.unitedsurfers.com/

Use my referral ID please
(AAB-757)
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Old 04-12-2000, 03:40 PM   #3
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has any of these websites worked for you?
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Old 04-12-2000, 03:49 PM   #4
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Hello tongyang, I am interested to find out how you are doing with getting referrals from these sites? If you are interested, check out MyEcom.net. This is similar to the sites you have listed here, however, I think they offer additional potential for earnings over many of the others. There is no limit to your downline, and they support MANY more paid-for-... programs.

If you want to check it out, please visit
<a href="http://mbossard.myecom.net">http://mbossard.myecom.net</a> and click on "Make Money" .

Thanks

BTW, I signed up under your referral ID for ReferCentral. But it doesn't look like they support as many paid-to-..... programs.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tongyang:
Another one:
http://www.unitedsurfers.com/

Use my referral ID please
(AAB-757)
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Old 04-12-2000, 07:09 PM   #5
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good thread..
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Old 04-12-2000, 11:55 PM   #6
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As far as I know, the united surfer one is the only one that is actually active for now. I found out this site only yesterday so I don't know how well it would really work.

I would recommend perpetual-income the most. As far as I know this one is VERY CLOSE to being active, as they're deciding on which pay-to-surf program to use. They also have the most members so it's guaranteed somewhat to have a big downline (because it's not built yet! If you refer more people in you'll be ahead of the ranking, assuring you even more referrals)

Refer central, however, seems to be very early in this stage so I won't expect it to be active anytime soon... (but who cares I'll sign up anyway just in case )
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Old 04-12-2000, 11:59 PM   #7
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Oh by the way, to get a sense of how close perpetual-income is becoming active, check out their news page...
http://www.perpetual-income.com/users/news.asp

So don't hesitate! Join and refer me please
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Old 04-13-2000, 01:07 AM   #8
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thanx for the explanation. that helps.
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Old 04-13-2000, 01:12 AM   #9
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I think you also get some sort of credit for clicking on ad banners at the perpetual-income site.
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Old 04-13-2000, 06:43 AM   #10
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ok, i'm a little slow, and it's wayyyy late. but i'm not understanding how these referral groups are different from building your own referral line. anyone want to help? how am i getting "more" referrals?
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Old 04-13-2000, 10:20 AM   #11
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Okay, let me try to explain.

People join in these "surfing clubs" because they aren't getting enough referrals. When a pay-to-surf program is decided for that club, they'll tell each member who they should refer when they sign up for that program.

(In unitedsurfer's case, they ask for your permission and then THEY sign up for you. They'll use the ID you provided and give you the password they signed up with)

It's basically an organized way of referring people, because most of the time people don't refer to maximize other people's profit.
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Old 04-13-2000, 10:25 AM   #12
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By the way you are probably wondering why I'm posting here to get referrals, if the downline is generated for you in those clubs.

I'll give the example for perpetual-income. They're now in beta stage right now. That means they haven't organized how the downline is going to be made.

That's where referrals come in. They give each member a ranking from how many people that person has referred. I.e. the person with the most referrals is going to be ranked #1, the next one #2, etc...

When all the details are finalized, they'll start to produce the 5x5 matrix that they mentioned... (each member will have 5 direct referrals and 5 indirect... for 5 levels)

So as you can see, the higher the ranking, the higher number of referrals the member will have.
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Old 04-13-2000, 11:57 AM   #13
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Elwood - I joined in the one you mentioned, and it looks good! Thanks.
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Old 04-13-2000, 02:14 PM   #14
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Yep. I'm not too sure how those banner clicking thing works though. I'm guessing it is used as a tie-breaker of all the people with the same number of referrals to the club.

Right now perpetual-income have me at rank #2817. Here's my math...

(first column = number of people in each level of referrals in PTS systems, second column = first column, third column = total number of members up to that level)

1 5^0 1
5 5^1 6
25 5^2 31
125 5^3 156
625 5^4 781
3125 5^5 3906 <---
15625 5^6 19531
78125 5^7 97656

(right now the member count for perpetual-income is about 30000 members)

As you can see, I'm at the 5^5 level right now, so if the club starts working right now, I'll have 2 levels of referrals for the PTS they use. (20~30 total)

you can say that's not a lot of referrals, but think about this. I only have 4 referrals in this club!! If 4 referals = #2817 out of 30000+ members, imagine the ranking you'll get if you have 10!

So please join and refer me again

(ID : 6627)
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Old 04-14-2000, 03:10 AM   #15
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tongyang:
Elwood - I joined in the one you mentioned, and it looks good! Thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

tongyang, thanks for joining, but I was kinda hoping maybe you would join under my referal?!
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Old 04-14-2000, 09:21 AM   #16
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Elwood -

since you didn't give an ID for me to put in, I didn't. And then after I submitted it once, I suddenly realized maybe I can use "elwood" and try, but it now gives me this "email address already in database..." error. Sorry
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Old 04-14-2000, 06:58 PM   #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tongyang:
Elwood -

since you didn't give an ID for me to put in, I didn't. And then after I submitted it once, I suddenly realized maybe I can use "elwood" and try, but it now gives me this "email address already in database..." error. Sorry
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tongyang, actually, I did. This is what I put in my original post:

>If you want to check it out, please visit
>http://mbossard.myecom.net and click
>on "Make Money"

If you follow those links, it clearly displays my referral ID, and also automatically enters it in the sign-up form.

Maybe the MyEcom webmaster will be able to fix this. Could you click on the email button and send me a message with your user id? I'll send him a request. Thanks.

[This message has been edited by Elwood (edited 04-14-2000).]
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Old 04-14-2000, 08:35 PM   #18
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Elwood - Really? I followed the links and nothing was in the referral box where I need to enter the ID.

Anyway, my ID is "tongyang".
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