guiseppewv

http://www.cultofmac.com/steve-jobs-...-pictures/2613

This guy really is a piece of work.

LPMiller

this is from august 2008, or about 3 months before he stepped down to get a liver transplant. While yes, he is a piece of work, this was also at the time how everyone was commenting on just how horrible he looked and how sick he was.

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guiseppewv

Doesn't matter. He didn't have a vehicle that was authorized to park in a handicap spot. He also has done it before (i.e. before he was ill). And he didn't have a license plate on his car. What excuse do you have for that?

clutchy

no excuse, he shouldn't be doing it.

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LPMiller

I'm not really making excuses. I will point out though that Apple is private property and in those instances, at least here in Minnesota, it's not actually illegal to park without a sticker. I'm not sure what the rules would be in Cali. In those cases all you need is permission, and I'm sure steve gave himself permission.

Also, those pictures don't really say anything. he could very well have a hanging tag that he forgets to show. I don't care what he did in the past, in this time frame he could very well have been required and allowed to park in that spot. All this page is doing is telling the story it wants to tell.

guiseppewv

Again, you are ignoring the fact that he doesn't have license plates on the car. Although there are no pictures, the people state that he didn't have a handicap placard.

mojo

i dislike it when people park in handicapped spots when they don't have the placard. if they are indeed handicapped, i don't care for the technicality of no placard.

all the same, if steve jobs did it - it doesn't make him any more an ass than the next person that does it. i'm gonna have to give this a rating of "who cares." this alone doesn't compose a full list of a-holedness.

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Thesifer

That's in California right? If it's a new car, the "Temporary Tags" go on the front window, not in the back.

Humm I guess the pictures are over a period of time. So it wouldn't be temporary. Not sure how he gets away with it then.

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Daedalus

Considering his contributions to the world, I'm willing to cut him some slack. What I don't get is why he doesn't just paint in a Steve Jobs parking stall right next to the handicap stall.

nate el bueno

I find the funny part to be that they're trying to say he doesn't know what the handicapped sign means...er. yeah.

guiseppewv

It is ridiculous that he parks in handicap parking spots especially since he owns the parking lots and could have had a special parking spot put in to have place to park. The guy is an egotistical douche.

ufcrusher

In California, as is the case in many other states, handicap spaces are actually dictated and controlled by state law. Once you install the space, you cannot change it without permission by the state. The fact that it is on private property does not have any effect on the law governing the space.

I have actually nearly sued my old condo complex due to their attempt to move the handicap space near my unit, there was also a problem with them trying to ticket me for parking in it. (Someone was complaining about the fact that I always parked my one car in it, so they said they were going to make it a standard spot...until I spoke with their attorney. Its amazing how fast those apology letters come. I believe I explained everything on here when it happened.)

Its also the reason that people sometimes get handicap tickets for parking in an unmarked spot. These places reline their lots and "remove" the handicap spots by painting yellow or white lines next to the blue and removing the sign. The blue lines are "owned" by the state, so the fact that they painted the other lines is inconsequential to the cop.

Either way, guy should get ticketed.

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Jeffbx

Seriously, he paractially owns the company - why not reserve himself a spot? It's pretty easy to put up a sign that says, 'reserved for executive'. They don't even have to put his name on it if he's worried about that.

Thesifer

Could even be right next to that spot, and take up two spots. Since it appears he parts there so his doors don't get dinged and so he doesn't have to walk.

gwilks98

Just curious: how often are all handicapped spaces full at the office?
We used to have 7 or so handicapped spaces next to the employee only entrance of our building, on a wing that's barely used, in a small company with no handicapped employees. (We successfully petitioned to remove 4 of them.

In the middle of the night, if I have an emergency drive into the office when no one is there, I use those spaces. It's illegal, but that's the letter, not spirit of the law.

I'm not going to get my ass all bent out of shape if I see someone park in a space no handicapped person is using.
Let's get pissed if you see someone in a wheelchair parking a block away because Jobs took up the last space. Hell, I'll even join in if the lot frequently has the handicapped spaces used in full. I just want a little openness to the story.

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guiseppewv

Does it matter how full or empty they are? It is just rude, inconsiderate, and crass to park in them when you don't have a physical disability.

The ones at my last work building were pretty darn full every day. I have not paid attention to the handicapped spots at my new building b/c I park in a garage and I don't walk by the handicapped spots on the way upstairs.

Personally, I don't park in a handicapped spot no matter what. I feel bad when I drop my grandmother, who has a hanging handicapped placard, off at the main entrance to a grocery store and then go park the car in a handicapped spot. My grandmother is going to want to walk back to the car "for excercise" and there is no way I am going to make her walk to the back of the lot. On bad weather days I pick her up and drop her off at the front of the store which means I do not park in a handicapped spot before I run into the store to help her shop.

gwilks98

I'd argue yes. I don't mean at that given moment, but places that do not need or use handicap spaces. I'm just saying paint the whole picture.

Someone could take a photo of my car in a handicap spot at 3 am in the middle of a blizzard and complain about me using a handicap spot. But it's not really much of a crime unless I'm actually depriving some poor person of the spot.

Just to be clear: I do not park in handicap spaces that are open at places where I'm a guest. EVER. (Grocery stores, crowded mall lots, etc) I seriously don't mind the walk, but I prefer to stay practical when we govern ourselves.

LP is pretty much making the point I'm trying to make, without sounding like the ass I'm sounding like.

Thesifer

Man that's rude, you successfully petitioned to have all of the handicapped people removed?!

guiseppewv

gwilks:

I agree it is rude. So, there would never be a chance that anyone handicapped would ever come to your building or that one of your current employees would become temporarily handicapped due to an injury, surgery, or something?

gwilks98

hold the phone guys...we're talking small company with multiple entrances. One wing which holds about 50 people max has 7 handicapped spaces. We removed 3 or 4 of them, not all of them.

You're really speculating out your ass to presume having 7 spaces in a small spot is warranted. I've worked here 9.5 of 12 years possible here.

those spaces were meant for when this area was 4 different businesses, and we eventually moved into those spaces and made it one wing.

We have 1 other employee entrance and a main entrance that's fully accessible, and also has plenty of available spots.

We petitioned back when we had a web store being run from this wing and the resulting parking overflow caused employees to be SOL because 7 spaces were NEVER being used because of a wheelchair logo painted on them.

It's a private lot guys, and the company agreed to meet the request because it didn't fit the need. I'm sure it'll be changed if we have a different demographic makeup down the road.

I really feel like I'm being hit up by parking Nazis. And this is coming from a guy whose father spent the last 10 months of his life wheelchair bound.

All I was saying is that "parking in a handicap space" doesn't tell the full story. If you think that handicap sticker is an absolute, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

Thesifer

Eh, I got what you were saying. I was just making a comment on where you put the parenthesis made it look like you "got rid of all of the handicapped employees"